Davi Millsaps on Drug Addiction in Supercross & who got Effected most! (Stroupe & Izzi UPDATE)

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  • @dirtboy896
    @dirtboy896 6 місяців тому +82

    Im 35 and am from that era and I went through all of that. Glad I am still here and have moved on from that in life. 5 years clean on July 2nd

  • @jakehenryIOM
    @jakehenryIOM 6 місяців тому +48

    I’m 25 years old, raced between 5 and 15 then started knocking around with wrong people ended up quitting racing and getting addicted to Cocaine , 10 years later I’ve been off the coke 2 years now and have bought a new yzf450 and never looked back since, Mx saved my life

    • @joshalger6059
      @joshalger6059 5 місяців тому

      Proud of you man…this shit is no joke and some people end up 6 feet under..

    • @TheSultanOfBlocks
      @TheSultanOfBlocks 5 місяців тому

      I'm 25 never been addicted to cocaine only tried it a few times. I work full time 50hrs a week and still can't afford a new 450 😂 so you must be doing something right. Rent in Massachusetts is too high.. I surf the used market

    • @bodhirides1016
      @bodhirides1016 5 місяців тому

      I’m really proud of you…that’s really great but just beware…once you e exhibited those behaviors…they are on your brain…just waiting to be triggered…2 years I’m not a long time…people are clean for ten years and relapse and they too thought they’d never look back…not trying to be a bummer or be down on you…I’m just saying you’re young and have a lot of life ahead of you…never take for granted what can happen in a lifetime…look at Phillip Seymour Hoffman for example…stay clean just don’t pay yourself too hard on the back and stay focused…sometimes a slip is just around the corner

    • @thechosenone1013
      @thechosenone1013 Місяць тому

      That's awesome man. Gives me hope.

  • @Hackers50Maker
    @Hackers50Maker 6 місяців тому +49

    Thanks both of you for having the balls to speak about this. 💪

  • @dangerus585
    @dangerus585 6 місяців тому +29

    I came from the era.. I raced ponca and Lorettas with every named mentioned.. Davi gave me more understanding of myself in 6 minutes than any class has gave me in my 34 years.. mental health didn't understand what to do with me.. riding is the only thing that fixes me 🤘

  • @dadspeed227
    @dadspeed227 6 місяців тому +33

    Dude this show has just had wall to wall bangers for weeks now. Love it Keep it up 🤘🏻

  • @merrick255
    @merrick255 6 місяців тому +17

    Getting the bike ready during the week, it’s just as therapeutic as riding it on saturday!!

    • @BUGMAN-22
      @BUGMAN-22 6 місяців тому +2

      I always spent Wednesday nights in the garage, prepping the bike and listening to DMXS radio in the early years when it was the only moto show out there. you are right it was my therapy.

    • @johnball6160
      @johnball6160 6 місяців тому +2

      No doubt, I fought this battle and getting back on a bike has been the biggest help with my mental health hands down

  • @jamesgeorge4874
    @jamesgeorge4874 6 місяців тому +32

    Addiction comes in many forms, it's not limited to drugs. It's stealthy, and nefarious.

    • @gregmulfort9577
      @gregmulfort9577 6 місяців тому +2

      Definitely not limited to drugs. If you can direct your addiction to something positively, or at least less destructive than drugs, you'll be so much better off. I have an addictive personality but I don't get into drugs because if I like them too much I know what could happen.

    • @Womb2DaTomb
      @Womb2DaTomb 6 місяців тому

      ​@@gregmulfort9577More often than not acknowledging you're an addict is the biggest step to becoming sober or dealing with it

  • @gungadingo
    @gungadingo 6 місяців тому +14

    I’ve had spine surgery twice, one to fuse vertebrae with rods and screws, and one later to remove the hardware due to pain and discomfort from the hardware. I never even took so much as an aspirin. Different folks have different mental and physical capabilities. I have no answers. I sympathize with those who lose that battle.

  • @dawnpentoney4502
    @dawnpentoney4502 6 місяців тому +6

    As a retired elementary teacher and high school coach for 27 years, I have seen tons of examples of youth to adult drug addictions. Shame is through training, education and experience to a high percentage we could highly predict who were candidates to end up ruining their lives!
    Your circle of friends has the heaviest impact.

  • @moto3463
    @moto3463 6 місяців тому +2

    Davi is a legend. A true just legit person. Always could tell he was absorbed into the spot. Watched him heaps growing up, truly underrated.

  • @mbk9292
    @mbk9292 6 місяців тому +3

    This is one of your best interviews by far when it comes to Truth with the sport... You are part of dirtbike culture

  • @MxFlyer125
    @MxFlyer125 6 місяців тому +21

    When Millsaps gives the example of guys at the top of their game, “that let a pill ruin their entire life. They couldn’t grasp what you needed to turn their life around.”
    He’s very lucky to not know what addiction to opiates is like. Completely different.
    Doctors were passing it out like candy during the late 90’s / early 2000’s. If you were one of the unlucky ones that got hurt, you were exposed to it. Some were lucky, many were not.

    • @Rick-zx2ik
      @Rick-zx2ik 6 місяців тому +2

      I was. They gave it for so long before people knew what was happening. Then they cut you off without tapering and you are miserable. THAT is the primary way it happens and has nothing to do with personality. No one wakes up and says “Hey I want to be addicted to opiates”. I’m sorry, but you should educate yourself about addiction rather than being so contemptuous. Not directed to you MX guy. 🙏🏻

    • @MxFlyer125
      @MxFlyer125 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Rick-zx2ik okay i’m a little lost here.. So are you agreeing with me on what i’m saying here, or are you not understanding what i’m saying here at all? I’m saying that Millsaps doesn’t get it at all..

    • @Rick-zx2ik
      @Rick-zx2ik 6 місяців тому +1

      @@MxFlyer125 Yes sir, absolutely agreeing with you. I’m saying getting addicted to opiates happened to me and it took me down a dark path for a while until I realized that there was help available. DM and Gypsy don’t get that it’s not something that anyone wants to do. It took over my life.

    • @MxFlyer125
      @MxFlyer125 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Rick-zx2ik ok got it now…. I’ve been there too man so i understand.

    • @Rick-zx2ik
      @Rick-zx2ik 5 місяців тому

      @@MxFlyer125 Not anything I want to go through again that’s for sure. Just reread my original reply and I was specifically talking to Millsaps, Gypsy, and anyone else who thinks people enjoy being addicted to pain medication. You are the “MX guy” I was referring to when I stated that my comments aren’t directed at you. 😛👊🏼
      I’m 54 now and a Psychiatric Nurse Practitioner and I recently read some literature on something called Opioid Induced Hyperalgesia. It’s very interesting and I had that experience at the end of my long term use. I still have chronic pain, but it’s much lower now that I don’t put opiates in my body. That’s something the manufacturers don’t want the public to know. Lmk what you think. 👊🏼🙏🏻

  • @craigmayhan4009
    @craigmayhan4009 6 місяців тому +25

    Opioids are a whole different ballgame than other drugs.You don’t have to be an addict to get hooked.You can become opioid dependent which is where your body actually craves the drug.Its very difficult to detox.

    • @beverlymontgomery4823
      @beverlymontgomery4823 6 місяців тому

      thank you everyone needs a better understanding of how opiates work because they destroy your bodies ability to deal with any kind of pain so then you constantly need more to deal with what might be considered low level pain it’s a shit show literally and the drug manufacturers knew exactly what they were doing

  • @damiencrow8338
    @damiencrow8338 6 місяців тому +8

    Im a 32 year old Illinois native. Aside from my stint in Cali from 99-05 ive been going to red bud almost every year of my life and I still remember '11 being the hottest Red Bud I've ever been too. It was absolutely brutal. R.I.P. Josh.

    • @kurtheidelbach
      @kurtheidelbach 6 місяців тому

      Man I grew up in IL but you have managed to live in the two worst states there is LOL. I successfully escaped many years ago.

  • @brettbillett6717
    @brettbillett6717 6 місяців тому

    Blessed and Highly Favored!!! I've been addicted to riding and racing! Still to this day! Never understood those other addictions 😔🙏

  • @lanesworldfilm
    @lanesworldfilm 6 місяців тому +5

    Davi was an awesome interview

  • @bryntholt
    @bryntholt 6 місяців тому +2

    Born in 97, started racing in 2000. I remember I broke my first bone in about 02/03 and after that it was a broken bones almost every year. In 07 I ended up breaking both my legs. I remember the amount of pain medication, muscle relaxers I was being prescribed at just the age of 6-11 years old... They really prescribed whatever and however much they wanted to in the early 2000's. Lots of kids got hooked quick....

  • @GarretEckman
    @GarretEckman 6 місяців тому

    Millsaps was a great guest on, love the story telling of the behind the scenes in the best generation of moto

  • @CreekLifeTV
    @CreekLifeTV 6 місяців тому +2

    I’m 6 years clean, was a full blown needle junkie..I’ve came from nothing and rebuilt, got 4 bikes in the garage..they are my dope now.

  • @beverlymontgomery4823
    @beverlymontgomery4823 6 місяців тому +12

    Addiction is a monster most people have no control over the addiction they really don’t want to be doing it

    • @mychchevelle72ss
      @mychchevelle72ss 6 місяців тому +4

      Its different for everyone. I became addicted after shattering my collar bone. multiple surgeries later and months of opiates. I woke up one morning and finally didnt have enough pain to take them. I decided that day i didnt want to do it anymore! that was the start of about 2 weeks of hell. But i am forever grateful i was able to win that battle.

    • @beverlymontgomery4823
      @beverlymontgomery4823 6 місяців тому +1

      praise God you overcame it i’m so happy for you I really glad they spoke about this because it needs to be talked about

    • @zacharyradford5552
      @zacharyradford5552 6 місяців тому +3

      Working on mental strength is the greatest thing you can do. Honestly that they key to a good healthy life you have a strong mentality everything else will follow. Addiction starts because people can’t cope with something then they can’t cope without whatever they did to aid them.

    • @gungadingo
      @gungadingo 6 місяців тому +4

      BS, weak willed people have problems with addiction. You have to take control emotionally. Hard for some, but necessary to be in control of your destiny.

    • @spencethegreat38
      @spencethegreat38 6 місяців тому +3

      ⁠@@gungadingobullshit response. Some of the most mentally strong people I know have dealt with addiction and came out the other side. Addiction doesn’t discriminate. It can get the phd Dr and the janitor. You don’t understand how hard it is to get addicted to a substance and go through withdrawals getting mentally and physically sick if you don’t get that substance. It’s hell. So come down of your high horse there bud. Just because you don’t struggle with it and “well it isn’t a problem for me so these people must be weak” doesn’t make them weak people.

  • @jerrysmith9935
    @jerrysmith9935 6 місяців тому +2

    I can say one thing davi has had a rough life but he's a super good guy in and out I've got to watch him grow up from on a 60 to pro have started many race for him never will forget one year at loretta Lynn's he had atorn up knee and still give it every thing he had he's a winner in all ways

  • @Nathan8rr
    @Nathan8rr 6 місяців тому +3

    It’s crazy that even a clean cut guy that doesn’t even like smoking weed for his TBI can see that opiates are NOT the same as weed and even coke… good insight

  • @rg807
    @rg807 6 місяців тому +4

    One of the biggest issues is the idea that you can and should be pain-free. Things hurt, and often, with chronic pain, there really isn't anything to take. Certainly opioids aren't a solution.
    I have chronic pain in my feet, and there's nothing i can do about it.

    • @NexusCapital
      @NexusCapital 6 місяців тому

      Look up John Sarnos work on chronic pain. Great into UA-cam channel to TMS pain is “pain free you.” Worth looking into.

  • @rustyATV
    @rustyATV 6 місяців тому +5

    I once read a quote "People don't take drugs to feel good, they take drugs to feel less bad".
    Oftentimes where there's addiction there's an underlying issue that the brain is self medicating for. With riding, while it can be a high, sometimes the pressure and sacrifice of being competitive is the issue.

    • @bmotomo421
      @bmotomo421 6 місяців тому

      That quote is about half true. Recreational substance use is real. Whether it be booze or chemicals. Addiction is a whole different thing.

    • @rustyATV
      @rustyATV 6 місяців тому +1

      @bmotomo421 maybe. How often is recreational use a means of "loosening up", though? It implies anxiety and insecurity in social settings.

    • @polaridoo1
      @polaridoo1 6 місяців тому +2

      Another version "people aren't addicted to drugs / alcohol, they're addictied to escaping reality "

  • @preezuswalks1615
    @preezuswalks1615 6 місяців тому +10

    I have been struggling with opioid addiction since I broke my ankle in 2010. It’s been 14 years of misery and destroyed my whole life. I’m not who I was supposed to be. 2 months clean. Iv had 4 years before, but relapsed during Covid lockdowns and a few times after. Still trying tho. OD’d twice once in 2013 and once in 2020. Not giving up but sheesh this shit sucks dick mate. I will say tho, last time I did it I finally didn’t enjoy it. I won’t be relapsing any time soon. And plus I’m saving up for a dirtbike. I refuse to spend more money on this drug. I’m done.

    • @theread3480
      @theread3480 6 місяців тому

      You’re going to get through it man. Just stay strong.

    • @haydenflinner
      @haydenflinner 6 місяців тому

      MotoTech 60v/72v can get you started in the park now!

    • @dshow1658
      @dshow1658 5 місяців тому

      Stay strong get on suboxon if u need to but don’t go back!

  • @kjayclowers12
    @kjayclowers12 3 місяці тому

    Rip 555 Trevor Donnie I used to ride with him back in the early-mid 2000s and dated his sister he was a special talent that was ruined by Drugs. Kenny Regal was also a great rider from my area I grew up with like a brother to me his older sister and brother both ended up racing professionally but when we where younger kenny was better than both of them but was getting serious injuries as a kid on a 65 and 85 stopped riding before he ever made it to the big bikes but just messing around on a private track he was still the fastest. Kenny ended up addicted to drugs and is currently in prison in Northern Michigan

  • @farmerkevin
    @farmerkevin 6 місяців тому

    I loved watching Izzi and Stroup ride when they were young bucks. Hopefully we'll get to see them at speed again . Hang in there boys, life is long and hard, be strong.

  • @davidj.diehlii6607
    @davidj.diehlii6607 5 місяців тому +1

    Anxiety and depression are big factors. It's easier to be fucked up and feel nothing than to suffer with yourself and your demons. It's not as easy as 'just stop' or 'don't do it.'

  • @TexRobNC
    @TexRobNC 6 місяців тому +8

    I imagine opiates in that era hit every single sport? it's wild. It's weird to have lived through. They used to give you opiates for any kind of pain for a period.

    • @abewise2939
      @abewise2939 6 місяців тому +1

      The messed up thing is that the pharmaceutical companies knew they were addictive.

  • @slagletoby
    @slagletoby 6 місяців тому

    I’m only here for the good addiction. Thanks for reminding me about the need for an outlet. I haven’t been riding and I need that good physical addiction back in my life. Physically I feel like shit, and psychologically it’s effecting me. The economy is risky and I’m worried about it, so in my own defense, and because I’m a dad, I’ve been working nonstop seven days a week. I need to get back on the horse!

  • @SlowRider72
    @SlowRider72 6 місяців тому

    I work as a probation agent and have specifically worked with drug users my entire career. I have supervised local pro motocross racers during my career. People make bad decisions, that does not make them bad people! Battling drug addiction is probably the hardest addiction to battle. It affects EVERYTHING in your brain and life. I really hope that these guys can stay clean and if anyone who is struggling, seek help now before its too late. Do not ever say that "it won't happen to me" because it always catches up to you.

  • @jspear1222
    @jspear1222 6 місяців тому +3

    Pills screwed my life up after an injury, and I’m still paying for it. But I’ve been clean for almost 6 years. It sucks never wish it on anyone

    • @cooganbeggs4942
      @cooganbeggs4942 6 місяців тому

      Well done brother! I’ve never had a problem but I’m curious. After 6 years do you ever get over it? Or does it still effect you?

    • @jspear1222
      @jspear1222 6 місяців тому

      @@cooganbeggs4942 yes and no when things are good they are good, but when things get bad like going thru a divorce like I am now I’d love to get high and forget everything and feel ok. But it temporary and I know me I’d lose everything again. But I do it for my kids and suboxone helps me stay off which is a maintenance drug. But knowing what I know now I wouldn’t have even gotten on subs. Another thing is fent is a scary thing too, that helps me not wanna go back too!

    • @jspear1222
      @jspear1222 5 місяців тому

      @@cooganbeggs4942 it does bother me every now and then, especially when a bunch of bs is going on I just wanna run and hide and feel good and happy about everything even tho I’ll still have to face it when I come back to normal. Main reason staying on them long as I did was to not get sick

  • @Arty11
    @Arty11 6 місяців тому +8

    For god sake sugar is addictive,people can almost be addicted to anything man. Obsessed and over indulging is addiction. Some People are more compulsive than others

    • @zacharyradford5552
      @zacharyradford5552 6 місяців тому +1

      Mental strength. It’s really that simple.

    • @Scummy_shovel
      @Scummy_shovel 6 місяців тому

      @@zacharyradford5552it kind of isn’t tho. There is just a certain percentage of people with that addiction gene. I had a good buddy that was bad bad. Once he got clean he doesn’t do drugs anymore but he still has that over compulsive addiction personality. He has 10 or 20 of everything. Like his rave trailer. He can’t just carry an extra set of bars. He has like 20 hanging there. Most people can bring an extra tube or two. He has to have 20 tubes and 5 sets of pre mounted wheels. It’s crazy. It’s everything in his life. If he is into it then he has to over do it. One is just never enough
      On the good side tho. He is great to ride with. You can literally show up hungover in your underwear and he will have everything to get ya riding for the day 😂😂

    • @Scummy_shovel
      @Scummy_shovel 6 місяців тому

      I saw this documentary thing. It even happens in the animal kingdom. Like rats. They would put a 100 rats in a cage and give them food or cocaine. They could choose. 25% every test group would choose the drugs and just do them to they die. Herds of elephants when they would come across fermented fruit tress. Roughly 25% would just stay there and Injest til they die. I always hated the “disease” thought of it. I thought like the guy above. Just be mentally strong man it can’t be that hard. But actually researching the science of it. Idk. Makes me wander. Like when I was younger I could party for days. Do all kinds of different drugs and then just get my shit straight. Focus and show up for races and never think about it. But there was always a few guys that once they started. They never stopped

    • @cjmbullion
      @cjmbullion 6 місяців тому

      @@zacharyradford5552 No its not simple

  • @johnallard9876
    @johnallard9876 6 місяців тому +4

    I was going to motorcycle mechanics school in Florida at that same time. I can tell you for a fact that stuff hit hard and for whatever reason seemed like so many ppl were doing it. Me and my brother never use to take anything even like cough syrup or whatever and we both got hurt and were put on pain meds and boom! All it took we both went down deep dark hole! Some how by grace of god we both made it out unlike a lot of ppl and we both joke about it now like what happened and how lol we didn’t wake up one morning and say hey think I wanna be addicted to pain pills! The doctors were pushing that stuff like unbelievable it was insane! I just don’t think there was any warnings and I honestly think it was pushed from high high up for some stupid reason.

    • @edwardhiggins1099
      @edwardhiggins1099 6 місяців тому

      Pharma pushed it for BIG MONEY
      It was the time period, not the sport
      Millions of people went down
      It's well documented

    • @haydenflinner
      @haydenflinner 6 місяців тому

      Read the book Empire of Pain if you'd like to understand the family behind it 👍

  • @baylonjones3771
    @baylonjones3771 6 місяців тому +2

    Everyone is around and doing great, except Tyler Evans. RIP One Punch.

  • @beverlymontgomery4823
    @beverlymontgomery4823 6 місяців тому +5

    please understand that the withdrawal is so terrible from opiates that it’s beyond what you can imagine
    you become dependent don’t get me wrong some people want to be high but many do not it’s important we educate people about chemical dependence

    • @BobbyGeneric145
      @BobbyGeneric145 6 місяців тому

      Its not *that bad. Yes its terrible... But people who run from it for years have it built up in their heads to be the absolute worst thing possible. Its like a really bad flu out both ends for less than a week. Its the rest of the life thats actually more difficult.

    • @yeahok115sure
      @yeahok115sure 6 місяців тому +4

      People who blame people for being weak because they struggle getting off opioids have never had a withdrawal

    • @6686able
      @6686able 6 місяців тому

      I have had 16 major ortho surgeries and I see the addiction part but the withdrawal detox isn’t that bad

  • @SilentViewer420
    @SilentViewer420 6 місяців тому

    Davi said it like it is. People won’t like it but you can never baby an addict. This was him being brutally honest and saying how it is.

  • @michaelgrubbs1618
    @michaelgrubbs1618 6 місяців тому

    By the way Jace this I think is the most honest show we've had to date

  • @motomikebuilder
    @motomikebuilder 6 місяців тому +2

    38 Surgeries? Damn, you picked the toughest sport for the bod. Some guys go nuts over vicodin etc. I hated it every time, only 7. I picked it as well.

  • @Boots2Bike
    @Boots2Bike 6 місяців тому

    I have an addictive personality and it's miserable. It's not as easy as people think. I'm super disciplined and dedicated in everything I do but it's hard to explain

  • @mattgillespie7116
    @mattgillespie7116 6 місяців тому +1

    Need Stroupe on let him talk about it I loved watching Austin at muddy creek back on Yamahas and early kawis get him on bro

  • @CaddyJim
    @CaddyJim 6 місяців тому +2

    *Because of injuries I have strong **#opiates**. So I can understand not wanting to go through **#withdrawals** but I do not understand chasing the high*

  • @americanhunter9985
    @americanhunter9985 6 місяців тому

    thank you for talking about this is so sad and big pharma new about it giving us tons of opiates

  • @thetren_station9740
    @thetren_station9740 6 місяців тому +9

    What you guys dont grasp is the opioids actually change the chemistry of your brain when a person uses them even as prescribed for like as little as 2 weeks. Do you really think this crap would have wreaked the havoc on the world that it did if ppl could just tell themselves man i gotta stop this for my own good. And i get it, Davi just isnt educated on the subject enough, lots of ppl who express their opinion about it arent. But theres a lot more going on in opioid addiction than just man i like the way this feels. I battled pills and heroine for 15 years, i was married with a newborn when i got hurt and it grabbed me. Im a bodybuilder, i dont have the "personality" for it either but this stuff doesn't discriminate...ive been in rehab with drs, lawyers, state troopers, men, women, children, ppl from all walks of life. Be thankful this beast never got a hold of you....

    • @andrewbailey9197
      @andrewbailey9197 6 місяців тому +2

      Couldn’t have said it better myself

    • @spencethegreat38
      @spencethegreat38 6 місяців тому +1

      100% agree. When I was in rehab, there were people that were DRs and lawyers in there, as well as people off the streets. Addiction doesn’t discriminate. The whole “I don’t get it, I never had a problem,addicts are just weak” is such a bullshit mindset. Battling addiction is one of the hardest things I’ve dealt with in life.

  • @TexRobNC
    @TexRobNC 6 місяців тому +4

    Ok, last comment. I think it's hard for certain mindsets to understand, but also if you lack a background. A lot of people have a lot of trauma, for whatever reason, and they get on opiates for a real reason, and it masks the emotional pains too and you weren't prepared for it. It enables you to suddenly achieve more, while on the opiates, and you realize what is happening but don't know a solution. I had to be on opiates for a liver transplant for PSC (not alcohol, diagnosed at 20 in the USAF), and it was really hard to come off of them without dealing with the other stuff.

  • @Wdbjr12345
    @Wdbjr12345 6 місяців тому

    When i broke my leg being on painkillers was fine just coming off sucked but i knew that going into it. So i can see how it can get out of control pretty quick.

  • @mcsbikelife3829
    @mcsbikelife3829 6 місяців тому +1

    It has a lot to do with past trauma also , pain killers kill all pain mental and physical. First time took them my anxiety and demons quieted for a few hours . That was the start . 20 years later I’ve made it past but had a few dark years .

  • @578_
    @578_ 6 місяців тому

    Damn that’s crazy I raced amateur races with Trevor Donnie #5 in district 14 I didn’t know he passed away. Davi was hanging with him at log road mx

  • @darrellmabry699
    @darrellmabry699 6 місяців тому +1

    It's not too much work if what your trying to numb out is way worse. Addiction sucks. You just don't know what someone has been thru. Might seem stupid but everyone's pain is different no matter how slight we might see it as.

  • @Dendyredyre
    @Dendyredyre 6 місяців тому +1

    Ha Izzi she still owes me money that little kidnapper..
    Good to have Millsaps on 🙏🔥

  • @derekbentley334
    @derekbentley334 6 місяців тому

    2009 -2010 2nd full race bike build with matching back up rode with hetrick rastrelli when they was 15.

  • @kennethzangl9412
    @kennethzangl9412 6 місяців тому +1

    Speaking from experience of addiction. Most riders that are spun out, is due to injuries/surgery. Having medical professionals give them pain pills and say its okay to take it. By the time the prescription is gone and the injury is healed most people get violently sick if they don't take more. And to address the "people just like to be fucked up" it can be true but in most cases a true drug addict is going to us in order to not be sick rather than use to get fucked up.

  • @johniocovello671
    @johniocovello671 6 місяців тому +3

    Here's another name to throw in the mix in this conversation -Ryan Mills.

    • @mxkidd38
      @mxkidd38 6 місяців тому +2

      Raced in the same district, watched him growing up. One fast talented kid he was. There was quite a handful fast dudes that came from D34.

    • @adriansgmail7885
      @adriansgmail7885 6 місяців тому +1

      D34, yup. Haven't heard of Mills in a while, last heard busted for home invasion. Anyone know what hes up to? Last saw him Calverton years ago, kinda heavy but still fast af.

    • @johniocovello671
      @johniocovello671 6 місяців тому

      @@mxkidd38 I raced D34 for years as well. I knew Ryan quite well on and off the track. I actually bought his 2001 CR250 from him right before he turned pro and moved to California. Was so awesome when he made it. I knew it wasnt good though when I saw who he was hanging with. Had a few good rides but never reached his potential. Then he disappeared. He resurfaced in prison years later. He told me his story of how he ended up in prison. Pretty sad. I just heard the other day that he showed up at a local race last year on a borrowed bike with borrowed gear. Waxed everyone and hasn't been seen since.

  • @AntDePietto51
    @AntDePietto51 5 місяців тому

    I hate to say this but i think someone in a family always ends up being that "example" for others and its helpful for some but very unfortunate for others. Some of my family members have chose that path and addiction and have stranded my 87 year old grandmother with a 10 year old to raise. Its eye opening and frustrating. But addiction is a hard task to understand and overcome

  • @overthehillmx5667
    @overthehillmx5667 6 місяців тому +1

    And the reason why this guy doesn’t really know and I applaud him for not hanging out with the wrong crowd. He went home when others went out.

  • @derekbentley334
    @derekbentley334 6 місяців тому

    Never peeling stones for the crashes

  • @iansteward4708
    @iansteward4708 6 місяців тому +2

    To say that people who struggle with opiate addiction are mentally weak is completely untrue. Some addicts are the strongest mentally and physically you’ll ever come across. Problem is (and I found out the hard way) Opiates can take down even the strongest. Spent the better part of my life on and off of Pills/Hero-in and it is t because im weak. It’s so damn powerful when you can feel that good. It isn’t the terrible withdrawals either, been through those many times only to get right back on. Say what you will but unless those opiates hit you like they do “us” you’ll only ever believe it’s because they didn’t have the “strength” to put it down.

    • @andrewbailey9197
      @andrewbailey9197 6 місяців тому

      Agreed

    • @AAAskeet
      @AAAskeet 6 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, there’s something to that because I have never liked pills or drinking. It never made me feel good after surgeries. I always just felt weird. I always wanted to get off as quick as I possibly could cause I didn’t feel right.

    • @spencethegreat38
      @spencethegreat38 6 місяців тому

      Agree man. There’s a lot of condescending comments on here portraying “well I’ve never had a problem with that, so those people must be weak” the truth is much different.

  • @bryancehelsky4302
    @bryancehelsky4302 6 місяців тому +1

    A great book on the subject is Crash and Burn by Artie Lange.

  • @nickpowellbmxmx8771
    @nickpowellbmxmx8771 5 місяців тому

    Hey guys I was addicted for 25 years and now a year and a half clean it's tuff but can't be caught by police again or lose my license for 4 years im addicted to my dirt bikes now im 43

  • @tylorwilliams9062
    @tylorwilliams9062 6 місяців тому

    That “No.” … everyone felt that 😞.

  • @johnallard9876
    @johnallard9876 6 місяців тому +2

    It was sad to see so many gifted ppl basically throw talent and gifts away without a second thought! I honestly still can’t think of why I choose to go down that path. Like I said me and my brother both try to figure out how or why we did and neither one of us have an answer. I still look back and can’t believe it. I don’t drink or anything now Just torch a head of lettuce before I go to bed but never during day only to go to bed lol just terrible those two had so much talent and such a bright future I hate seeing what happened

  • @NicholasBishop-qb5ci
    @NicholasBishop-qb5ci 6 місяців тому

    Little bit ignorant from both parties here, love this podcast though so much. But for those struggling with substance abuse, it’s not as easy as just fucking getting over it. Davey is blessed to be one of the people that doesn’t have the heartache of having one mistake run the rest of their lives. I think it’s something stupid like 90% of addicts never recover. That’s not a decision at that point. It’s a predisposed genetic disposition towards dependancy on drugs that not everyone has. I’ve wanted to put the booze down since I was 19. Fast forward to 36, on a Thursday, and here I am. Same as it ever was. All I can see is the things I’ve missed out on, the ability I have, and that the booze and drugs have kept me from, the love I have. And I can’t live without a day or two not being on the piss.

  • @Martin-ef4xh
    @Martin-ef4xh 4 місяці тому

    TBH, never been a huge fan of Milsaps, but my view after this is changing that. With that said, I never put the two together, but then again, I do a few concussions under my belt. I did used to ride with a couple of guys, were either popping pain killers or on meth. Really such a shame. Such talent lost. Glad I never did anything more than OTC for my broken ankles or F'd up knees. I'd prob be in the same boat.

  • @stevesmith775
    @stevesmith775 6 місяців тому +1

    Huge shout out to Will Hahn for getting addicted to pain pills and being able to say fuck this and suffer through the withdrawals and quit. I wish he spoke out about it more to show these other guys it’s possible. I know so many guys that I grew up racing with that destroyed their lives on that shit

  • @R900DZ
    @R900DZ 6 місяців тому +1

    Davy is awesome.

  • @kap851
    @kap851 6 місяців тому

    You’ve got to blame the doctors that’s prescribing it, as a doctor you’ve got to explain the side effects of these drugs and think about the long term damage that it’ll do to you. I raced back in the day with Partridge, Costella, Stewart, Grant all of these guys back in the early 2000 it wasn’t until after racing I had neck surgery and got addicted to medication, withdrawals sucked but I was willing to kick it and have stayed away and been clean for 16yrs. I look back and miss the days of driving to Ponca, Loretta’s, etc I feel back bad for these guys that are battling addiction.

  • @RoughCutErik
    @RoughCutErik 6 місяців тому +1

    We went hard in Temecula

  • @DubbyAdub
    @DubbyAdub Місяць тому

    I’m shocked they didn’t bring up JLaw def the best rider ever with addiction issues and he was in davi”s era

  • @somethingelse4846
    @somethingelse4846 6 місяців тому

    Coming down from the high of weed makes me feel depressive feelings,its like i crave to not go back its a sucky feeling i don't do it now.

  • @stevestiffler9120
    @stevestiffler9120 6 місяців тому +2

    But what was in Davi Jones locker 2015? Gotta remember how many injuries Moto guys endure, plus big money machine pushing us to ride when we’re not fully healed and hurting still. The sport isn’t for everybody, you gotta be effed in the head to be successful in Moto and make it out in one piece

  • @shealee4439
    @shealee4439 6 місяців тому

    Trevor Donnie the tripple nickle was my trainer in 2010 so sad to hear that happend to him

  • @tripchief8345
    @tripchief8345 6 місяців тому

    I hate that he says "you let a pill ruin your life" a Dr gave it to us and told us weed be back racing in 9 months but it really took 10 years. 3 years clean and I'm back ripping like I was a teenager I didn't let anything ruin my life just a few years. Though I do understand how he cant understand the same way.

  • @vicarmijo9285
    @vicarmijo9285 6 місяців тому

    Affect is most often used as a verb, meaning to have an influence on something or someone
    Effect is most often used as a noun, meaning the result or outcome of an action
    For example: If an event affects your life, you will feel the event’s effect.
    When to use “affect”
    Affect means to produce a change in someone or something.
    The fire affected the quality in the air.
    The positive reinforcement affected her mood.
    Will this failure affect my confidence?
    His grades were negatively affected by skipping class.
    When to use “effect”
    Use effect if you are describing the result of a change, or the outcome an action or event.
    The tornado had a terrible effect on the town’s infrastructure.
    She dyed her hair and the effect was that it became coarse.
    The effect of the regulation was safer work environments.
    The effect of studying more was better grades for Shelly.
    Technology has had a profound effect on our society.

  • @rayv882
    @rayv882 6 місяців тому

    People don't understand how bad the painkiller addiction is, it grabs you and it's hard to stop. Taking painkillers make you feel great but to some people they get sick to their stomach and want to sleep but some people it make them feel wonderful and that's why it's hard to stop and if they stop they get super sick and can't sleep. Everyone who is addicted i gaurentee want to stop and if they could stop by the snap of a finger they would but they can't it grabs a hold of you and won't let go. Painkiller addiction is very evil.

  • @DualEnduro
    @DualEnduro 6 місяців тому

    What’s crazy about drugs, is you have no idea for the most part who or will do drugs, until you do it with them, then it’s like it was always there.

  • @cdawg8325
    @cdawg8325 6 місяців тому +103

    If you felt the withdrawals for 1 day then you would "get it"..he's over here acting like it's easy. Yo have no idea my guy

    • @craigmayhan4009
      @craigmayhan4009 6 місяців тому

      @@zacharyradford5552it’s simple not easy. Some peoples bodies react differently to drugs,especially opioids and they can reach out and grab you quick.

    • @beverlymontgomery4823
      @beverlymontgomery4823 6 місяців тому +13

      dude serious please don’t post stuff like this out of respect for people and their families that have been thru hell you honestly do not understand what’s it’s really like if your making a comment like this

    • @zacharyradford5552
      @zacharyradford5552 6 місяців тому +8

      Except that’s not a lot of people’s problems. They miss the feeling of being fucked beyond belief. Addiction comes from mental weakness because you can’t cope with something. You you truly mentally don’t wanna do something then you won’t.

    • @kurtnielsen6684
      @kurtnielsen6684 6 місяців тому +6

      Your right. It’s hell bro. It takes many back and forths

    • @Alitotheg
      @Alitotheg 6 місяців тому +3

      Best not going down that road then it won’t happen we lose so many people to all sort of addiction

  • @gotmoto
    @gotmoto 6 місяців тому

    It’s not a generational thing. It’s very much still happening. I think people are just so aware of it now that the people around them, and the doctors as well at the patient are very careful at the highest level of competitors. Also I think with all the technology in the medical industry injuries are healing a lot faster than they used to whick means doctors don’t have to keep the patients on pain killers as long. I know/know of people of almost all ages from about 12 years and up who have had issues with it.

  • @jedwilson4076
    @jedwilson4076 6 місяців тому

    There is no high like riding a bike fast and so meny of us are chasing whatever high we can get that still doesn't come close to smashed some big doubles or massive step up-down hills flying

  • @ZRG22
    @ZRG22 6 місяців тому

    I like that DM wants to understand addiction, but he never will.

  • @kurtnielsen6684
    @kurtnielsen6684 6 місяців тому

    He went through it. Yes the withdrawals are hell. You can only have an idea if you went through it

  • @peterschmith1058
    @peterschmith1058 6 місяців тому

    In Aus you need a prescription to get endone. The pharmacist only prescribe 10 at a time. Hopefully this happens in the states

    • @tulmar4548
      @tulmar4548 2 місяці тому

      We went too far the other way though. I can't even get panadine forte anymore. Though I am noted as a drug seeker because I had back issues and asked for more than panadol and that I couldn't have endone because 12 years earlier it made me aggressive in the 3 days I took it. I tried to tell them I've never had anything but that and another for only 7 days in my life and they just thought I was a junkie. I then tried to get 20 years of my files from my old doctor and they'd moved office and destroyed my files because I hadn't been there in 5 years. So now I'm apparently just a drug seeking junkie lol and everytime I go in with an injury I have to tell them that I don't want any drugs for them to take my injury seriously. Its a fkn joke.

  • @themidwestconnect
    @themidwestconnect 5 місяців тому

    I partied stupid hard through the first 25 years of my life doin everything we could get from weed to coke but opioids are a whole diff monster once you are physically dependent. Nothing ever bothered me until I tried stopping opiates. I’m glad you guys don’t understand it and hopefully you never do.

  • @derekbentley334
    @derekbentley334 6 місяців тому

    I was running 30s 1st year A after sandbagging 6months of trophy to show for it. Non wins count a hand run it again. Sun up to sun down

  • @609enduro
    @609enduro 6 місяців тому +1

    It's not that simple. Kinda like a clutch for the average rider. It's a slow degradation. U wake up and boom its over. Ur an addict. It starts with 1 beer on a Friday then before u know it, u can't stop.

    • @spencethegreat38
      @spencethegreat38 6 місяців тому +1

      Underrated comment. This is totally true. The line of “this isn’t a problem” to “now I can’t stop” happens very quickly.

  • @craigstrom8619
    @craigstrom8619 6 місяців тому

    I remember racing in my early years on 80s and maybe nicos upbringing messed him up. I remember every time I'd see him and his dad at the track. His dad screaming at the top of his lungs cause he wasn't in first place. I know there's alot of money invested into racing but damn.

  • @philipwurm5121
    @philipwurm5121 6 місяців тому

    The difference between that era and this era is Drs were giving those guys 90 plus percocets or Oxy’s a month and nowadays if you have surgery they might give you 7-10 pills which isn’t enough to get addicted on.

  • @Ccrider363
    @Ccrider363 6 місяців тому

    I got caught on the opioids for a while, was able to get off them, stuck with the white for a long time, from being homeless to a home owner and now completely sober for 90 days. Always pull for Nico hood he can figure it out.

  • @derekbentley334
    @derekbentley334 6 місяців тому

    The tune from video game 😂❤✌️

  • @onlygazza
    @onlygazza 6 місяців тому

    The old saying is decide what your hobby and obsession will be before the ( hobby addiction ) decides to choose you ⚠️

  • @bollweevil8112
    @bollweevil8112 6 місяців тому +3

    Life is an illusion
    A few people are living very comfortable illusions, most are not

  • @se11459
    @se11459 6 місяців тому

    Want to feel an opioid high? Here’s my formula - 1. Do something that you feel is dangerous, 2. Which takes skill to pull off = feeling of elation like Vicodin. I would prescribe a 125 and a freshly groomed track. I’ve had the pills and a good day of riding is way better. Of course riding for fun and riding hurt as your job/ income are two different things.

    • @gotmoto
      @gotmoto 6 місяців тому

      Riding doesn’t feel anything like vicodin. If you take vocodin you’ll feel and be trapped. Riding a dirt bike you’ll feel and be free! 🙃

  • @americanhunter9985
    @americanhunter9985 6 місяців тому

    I know people don't get it. I broke my jaw in 2002 racing they put me on oxycontin 40's 3 times a day. for 6 months it ruined me. wrecks and pain meds the government knew what was happening it's very sad. I been clean 12yrs now.

  • @JPW328
    @JPW328 6 місяців тому

    2:03 who passed away? Trevor who?

  • @S8R1
    @S8R1 6 місяців тому

    Racers are just gnarly. we do it up and sometimes get swallowed up

  • @wormbrubeck1871
    @wormbrubeck1871 6 місяців тому +1

    I grew up riding and then racing through high school, ended up getting landed on. Broke my wrist and fractured my skull healed from that and one of my first races back got t boned in a corner and shattered my phemur and dislocated my knee, I broke each wrist a few times each and coller bone and other smaller injuries before I finally stopped riding at 16 and got into cars. Through all my injuries and surgeries I never really took the pain meds they gave me didn't care for how I felt on them. But just out of high school about a year my brother came by with a oxy 80 I asked to try so snorted a bit of that and washed it down with a beer and thought f✓©k this feels good, over the next year or two I tried it a few more times then it was easy to get them all of sudden make a cal and 10 minutes later I had them in my hand, I didn't even know what dope sickness was or that you had withdrawals till out of the blue I couldn't get any and man did I feel like crap hot and cold sweats, restless legs flopping like a fish if trying to sleep, be lucky to get 15 min of sleep, throwing up, lucky to make it to bathroom before crapping pants. Basically hoping to just die at times felt like you were going to die you feel so bad. The few days later dude calls and has more and with in seconds/ minutes it all goes away and feel fine again. It's crazy how snorting or smoking shooting up something can make all the crap go away like that. Did those for years then switched to heroin started doing meth as well in and out of jail for years ended up in prison for a few years and haven't been back or in jail since that but I started using the day I got out and it's been 8 years now and had very few days I have not used since had a job for 5 years was the lead there doing real good got off parole after 10 years found a way to be high and function and worked out except now I'm sick of being sick and tired but all I remember is being high don't know how to live or get sober saying I could get passed the week - two sickness I don't know how to live and be sober. As much as I hate using and want to be clean I don't know if it's possible or that it will last but I tell you one thing nothing I want more then to be sober if I could go back to the first time I used and say no I would do that in a heartbeat cause that day I threw my life away and had no clue I was throwing it away and how sh,)/ty my life was about to be i dobt chokse tl be a addict it just haplend no one woild choose this life. If you know someone addicted to anything help them don't treat them like they are bad people they are just lost and not sure how to fix the problem .

    • @martybarnes1814
      @martybarnes1814 6 місяців тому

      Thanks for sharing your story. I hope it helps people just to say no the first time. It sounds like its hard to beat I understand addiction just not this type. I hope someone can share a plan with you to get you sober and not in pain. Stay strong and reach out for help my brother. Im rooting for you

    • @DGfilms1996
      @DGfilms1996 6 місяців тому

      We care brother. Take care of yourself.

  • @buckinright
    @buckinright 6 місяців тому +2

    Can u do a story on James steward cause I remember back in the day why James steward quit riding was he got banned from supercross cause he tested positive for Marijuana but I haven't heard anything about it now days

    • @rg807
      @rg807 6 місяців тому +2

      He was banned for Adderall, not Marijuana. He actually had a TPU, but hadn't filed it in time.

    • @buckinright
      @buckinright 6 місяців тому

      @rg807 ok I was wondering about that thanks

    • @MessyLio10
      @MessyLio10 6 місяців тому

      ​@bradbuchanan6588 you were wondering about it? So you posted completely false information about someone you don't know as if it were a fact? Nice cover

    • @buckinright
      @buckinright 6 місяців тому

      @MessyLio10 no its been a while. I couldn't remember, and he did get banned way back and this is why I never comment cause there is always is a keyboard warrior

    • @AAAskeet
      @AAAskeet 6 місяців тому

      James got screwed by the officials and it’s a complete travesty his career got cut shorter

  • @zee.___moose941
    @zee.___moose941 6 місяців тому +3

    It's because it's was the era of push oxys for any little thing. Sprained pinky? Here's 90 oxycotton.than the withdrawals 😩😫 it's impossible I'm still going through issues from those years . Nowadays u break your back they give you Tylenol u can't even get em now. Now this is the Fetty era God knows what's next just glad I got out before the Fetty hit the streets

    • @beverlymontgomery4823
      @beverlymontgomery4823 6 місяців тому

      love your honestly… keep the faith brother i’m praying for you 🙏♥️

  • @buddhistpriest1357
    @buddhistpriest1357 6 місяців тому

    As an extreme sport participant I think we’re more likely to get extremely addicted to drugs.

  • @jgrc73
    @jgrc73 5 місяців тому

    if you're a pro motocrosser saying you don't understand why people wanna be fucked up all the time that's ironic because you're doing that to get high you're all pumped up on adrenaline and testosterone.
    Big difference of course being is that is natural and legal, and good for you I guess unless you consider 35 surgeries.
    everybody's different but people who have never been into drugs will never understand just like someone who who's never raced motocross would never understand

  • @rman5815
    @rman5815 6 місяців тому

    Word has it a top three 450 rider tested positive at the last stupid cross stop and more to be announced.....but it is not eli