Dude your my hero, when I had my shop I preached the same story no one believed and I said if you get a big buck in front of you your going to loose him. Sure enough it happened at least 2 times a year. But I gave up preaching. Im glad to see you preaching.
Well....I guess I'll go against the grain on this one. My thoughts are shoot what gives you the most confidence. I to have shot Muzzy trocars and phantoms, slick trick grizz, viper, and magnum tricks, land sharks, wasps, steelforce, and while they all shoot ok and 90% of the time have pass throughs, I still find myself tracking deer 100+ yards routinely. Just for fun, I switched to shwackers one year along with Rages, and as long as I did my part and stayed away from the shoulder, I got some of the most dramatic blood trails I have ever seen. I've been bowhunting for 32 years and It takes a LOT to impress me but, both the Rages and Shwackers both wowed me. So, until the day comes along that I'm very disappointed with my current setup, nothing is going to change. Great video BTW!
Opening cans of worms and stirring pots. I love it. And I agree. I love watching my friends try to justify mechanicals when they don’t tune their bows or practice shooting past 40 yards. It’s definitely not the broadhead that’s the problem...
Great video as always, totally okay to ruffle some feathers when you're giving people the solution at the same time, thanks for taking the time to educate newbies like myself 😊
I still shoot my old Pearson Compound Bow that I got back in the late 80's. I use... Wait for it... "ALUMINUM" Arrows (OMG!!!!) I originally bought with it as well. I have it set at 72 Lbs. I keep it tuned & ready to go to this day. I figure if the Indians could hunt with a Bow made from a stick with bone or obsidian tipped arrows, I could make a go for it. It has, and continues, to work very well for me & many a Buck have ended up in my Chest Freezer over the years. Thanks for the video! You have a new subscriber!
I came to compound from a Trad background. So a fixed, cut on contact is all I've ever used. So when I started using a compound I looked at mechanicals. First thing put me off was lack of weight. I use a 200g grain broadhead. Second was I like things as simple as possible. So here I am, basically shooting the same arrow just with vanes not Feathers 😁
I've had a lot of success with Rage Mechanicals but after 3ea FAILS I went to a fixed single bevel cut on contact 2years ago .( 150 hr Cut Throat 1&1/8" ) and I'll never shoot mechanicals again
@@TheSouthernObsession The last time I had a 100gr insert up front with the 2+Rage chisle tip and a simple 30yd broadside shot I aimed hit dead on the shoulder scapula ( bad shot on me ) the arrow hit the bone and due to the large opening size of the mechanical only penetrated a couple inches and literally fell out immediately as the buck spun to run ...flesh wound only , a buddy of mine killed him a week later nice 130" 9pt. Technically not a failure but due to the mechanical opening being too big it could not penetrate the bone . My arrow set up was 16 % FOC my bow a 72 lb PSE Evo Max . The actual failures was once on a medium to hard quartering away shot same rage broadhead type deflected and the other failure came open in flight causing me to hit the deer in the hind flank ...actually cut an artery so recovered that one 👍
@@ronnielkier EXACT same thing happened to me. got 3 inches of penetration and the arrow bounced out of the deer and richocheted right out of the flesh. I saw the arrow bounce out before the deer even knew what hit him. Using a rage NC.
@@Atheos119 Had one that sheared the blades off at the point where the blade opening extension lines up with the opened blade while shooting into a Walmart foam block target.
Maybe some day I'll have a failure. Until then I'm shooting mechs. My arrows are 6" deep in the dirt with a 2" cut mech on it after blowing through even mature bucks. All but one of my 19 kills thus far. The one outlier was a bit of a mis shot that got the shoulder blade. Went completely through the scapula, both lungs, out the other side. The fetching held the arrow in the deer and fell out almost immediately when he took off. No reason to cut a smaller hole just to stick the arrow a couple more inches in the dirt.
@@DrPsychlops and how many pounds are you pulling on your bow? If you like mechs then continue using them. I'm not mad at you for it. For me, to much can go wrong and don't want to risk bonking on the deer of a life time because my broadhead failed.
@@davidholliday3286 never used a mech in my life. Pulling 65, have Tuffhead single bevel 200gr. Arrow weight is about 640 total. They go slow but I'm not shooting outside of 40 yards and anything in that range is going to have two holes.
Switched to Magnus Black Hornets this year. Also bought some Stingers. Never going back to mechanicals. Can't wait for the season to start. Good luck everyone!
I was shooting Grim Reaper 3-blade mechanical heads, never had any issues. Killed 8 deer with them. Switched to fixed blades this season, because I wanted to try them. Tried the Muzzy "One" and love it. So, for me, I can use either type. I plan to use Magnus next season.
There is no question that fixed broadheads are tougher and more reliable than mechanical heads. And yes there are people that don't tune their bows and use mechanical heads because it's easier for them. But fixed heads steer the arrow so the forgiveness factor of the mechanical heads can't be ignored. If your in a stand and shooting at a deer with an elevated heart rate, aiming angled downward, leaning a little and you punch the trigger a little a mechanical head will be more forgiving and give you a better chance at hitting where you are aiming. If the fixed heads start slightly off direction they continue in that off direction because again they steer. Another thing is speed. If your shooting a fast setup a fixed head with any size to it can be difficult to get consistent flight. I've read several articles where they tested fixed blade heads and they said they become more inconsistent when they reach speeds of 280 fps and higher. You showed RF early in the video and he is for using heavy arrows with fixed heads for more penetration. And it works. But he is slowing the arrows down significantly with the heavier arrows thus getting better fixed head flight. You also mentioned your wife's bow shooting big fixed heads well but she is also shooting slow speeds which helps with that. I only hunt whitetails. Ive shot fixed blade heads most of my life and only a couple of mechanical heads. They have all worked for me. There are only a handful or less of mechanical heads I would even consider. Right now I'm shooting 315 fps with a mechanical head that gives a 1 inch entrance hole and almost a 2" exit hole and it breaks bone with ease shooting 80 lbs of kinetic energy. Even if the head didn't open which has never happened I still would get a 1 inch hole. We have to stop this crap saying your not an adult if you don't shoot these particular broadheads or these arrows. It's stupid. Everyone shoots different KE, different game and at different distances. Shoot what works best for you. Being accurate and making 2 holes is at the top of my list.
As a returning Bowhunter....and now, have had the great experience of my 12 y/o Daughter asking to go Bow Hunting with me.. the thrill I had. With all the new hi-Tech equipment....milled spex. It is a lot to absorb. It is a blessing to know there are archers, Bow Hunters like yourself that give such easy to understand; Pros and Cons, personal opinions and and advice. I took a friends advice and screwed on a Rage Mech. Broadhead. I know, this is most likely operator error. I always used a Fixed in my prime hunting days. As I pulled back on my bow...one of the blades dropped out. I had to recoil...that deer most likely is feeding someone else. The next time; was a miss due to the erratic flight of the arrow. I didn't' want to give up..until I watched this...I'm going back to fixed, and setting my daughter up as well. Thank you very much. God Bless
185 gr glue-on single bevel Grizzlys with a 35 gr adapter on a 29.25" for an overall arrow weight around 605 gr. Flies as good as my 215 gr field points and had a complete pass through on a good size mule deer buck at 55 yards last year.
@@bwfreel one of my favorite quotes from RF when he's talking to the Hunting Public guys on their podcast is when he has bow shop guys asking "what are you shooting with that!?" And he's like "they are admitting that this system is effective!"
Grizzly makes great heads. I really wish more companies would follow their lead and use 1075 or 1095 steel as well. It takes a great edge( much better than most highspeed tool steels) it's cheap and durable. I shot a buck with one a couple years ago( with a 72lb recurve) and it zipped straight through and lodged 3 inches into a tree on the other side...after breaking 2 ribs...looked almost new.
I like the simplicity of Slick Trick broadheads. Like you said, they are very easy to sharpen. If they don't shoot well, you are doing something wrong or something is wrong with your equipment. I personally like the Viper Trick, but the standard & Magnum are also great broadheads! Slick Tricks do everything (accurate, easy to sharpen, somewhat durable) that I want a broadhead to do. Unless they disappear from the market, I don't see myself shooting anything else. I shot Muzzy 3 blades for decades, but I have grown fond of 4 blade Slick Tricks.
Love tuning my bows, and took the time to tune a fixed blade. Shot a Slick Trick Wicked Trick and she shot right with my field points at 60 yards and in. I've since shot 3 animals with them. First about a 175# sow wild hog. She bled like CRAZY! Was super impressed. Followed the blood trail for about 100 yards, and ran up on the pig still alive. Had to finish her off with my pistol. Second, had a doe at 15 yards, quartering away. Shooting 450gr arrow with 17%FOC for the record. Shot at the offside shoulder, and it stuck in the shoulder. Tiny drops of blood, tracked a couple hundred yards and ended up not finding her. Last doe I shot, it did fine, although there wasn't much blood, found her after about 50-60 yards. That was a broadside shot that went through and through at around 18 yards. I haven't been very impressed with the fixed blade as of now. Will give it a few more chances, but I'm awfully close to switching back to Mechanical. One of my main things is I'm not a "sharpener" I shoot a deer with it, it becomes a hog broadhead. After I shoot a hog with it, it goes in the trash. I simply buy more, its not like I'm buying 5 packs per year.
Thanks for another excellent video. Your videos are not only informative, but quite entertaining, as well. I've had excellent success with Rage mechanicals for the last 10 years, but you provided some good information to think about.
Mr.Damien sir, any broad head will pass threw the lung area the problem is when you hit bone, rib bone, piece of shoulder bone I can guarantee a pass threw with a fixed but never a expandable. If you think about it you need so much more speed or poundage to make the expandable open up. If any hunter would be honest with them selves im sure you all expandable deer hunters can admit to loosing a deer to no blood trail. I used an expandable one time and I lost one of the biggest bucks I have ever shot. I threw them out went home and resighted in with my fixed broad head went back out killed 7 deer that year. Im not lieing leave it up to you. If you haven't lost a monster dont wait till you do.
I shoot the G5 deadmeat mechanical heads and I can't say anything bad about them. They blow through every time and the exit wound is shocking . haven't lost a deer yet using these. I did a test using the cheapest of the cheap , Allen 3 blade fixed broadheads .they are about $5 for a 3 pack vs rage and G5 products. The crazy thing was at 30 yards using all 3 types didn't have to move my sight at all. All flew well ,about the only big difference I found was the sharpness of the blades and the diameter . All were 100grain heads.the second thing was penetration . the G5 deadmeat heads went a full inch deeper and expanded best out of the mechanicals. So I have to agree with you G5 product are definitely worth the money.
I have no issues with the grim reaper razor tip or white tail special opening completely every time creating massive damage and passing through both javelina and deer. Not to mention they fly phenomenally and leave behind a blood trail that looks like a murder scene. Not sold yet on fixed.
So it makes me insane when people talk about mechanical broadheads like they more often than not fail. I've been using Rage broadheads since they came out and only lost a couple deer (both lived) because I hit them in the shoulder BONE. I've had several pass thrus (50% at least) and several bad shots. All dead deer because the entry and/or exit is so massive. My 1st few years of serious hunting I shot Thunderheads and they worked just fine, but the Rage and broadheads like it are way more devastating and easier to track. I compare a fixed blade to gun hunting, in that the blood trails are spotty or non existent within the 1st 30-40yds. With a good mechanical, you get instant blood that you don't have to strain to see. Not knocking fixed blades, but with a well placed shot from either, the blood trails and devastation is greater with the mechanical. Not to mention, on shots that we all make that aren't perfect you have a better chance of recovering a deer with a larger cut.
Exactly what we've been saying.. shoot for maximum hemorrhaging. and no matter what shit you shoot, getting through that shoulder bone wont happen often, so may as well shoot a big cutting diameter that will help you up down and back on your shot placement. How is it that all these youtube boys started shooting smaller fixed heads and lost more deer/had to get tracking dogs more in two seasons than ever before? I think people will look back on this and the wound loss rate will speak for itself. arrows kill from hemorrhaging, prioritized cutting over pass through penetration.
I switched to fixed blades last year. I had been shooting Rage since 2011. Never had a failure. However, I did an experiment on how different broadheads fly, and Rage did not fly as well at longer distances as some other fixed blades.
Finally someone else that isn't afraid to stand up to the mechanical train! Only thing I shoot a mechanical for is turkey hunting. I have been shooting 125 grain Thunderheads for over 30 years and only a few times not gotten an exit wound on over 100 whitetails!
Got into bowhunting in 1991, I always used fixed when tuning, I tune and practice with what I'll be hunting with...I've change bows release's, rests, went back to a keller pendulum, but I still use NAP Thunderheads ,from 125 gr to 100 gr with carbon arrows.... Them meat sticks have never failed, never lost any deer.....
Absolutely love Troy. Got my Ashby arrow (650 grain 19% foc) for big agriculture hogs and deer. I had one bad experience and I went to magnus. Literally the best flying head. Period. And they don’t snap when I bend em!
Ha ha! Love this. Been using fixed two or three blade for nearly 40 years. I have NEVER lost a deer and only two turkeys- honest!!! They just work and they never fail to deploy- haha!!! Good video again Mr.
I agree with 100% of everything you said in this video and I'm the type to always have 2 pennies in my pocket. I believe in eliminating things that are unnecessary to prevent a rogue failure. The only real difference is that I use QAD because they feature DEATH as well as being made in the US of Murica. Keep up the great vids. Also, that's a pretty rad hoodie! I just picked up my first brand new bow last year and decided on the Ritual 30 and haven't regretted it whatsoever.
I could only focus on 50 per cent of all that great info...the rest of the time I was watching your hand gesticulations near those blades and couldn't relax. Great video. Really enjoy your channel.Total stream of consciousness, no ums and ahs all over the place.
I have relatively cheap fixed heads, 4 blades, NO screws, the blades are all held by the ring on the bottom of the arrow head. Materials just the same as some NAP heads. You don't need to go fancy for good results and as you said easy and effective maintenance are so important especially in emergency or survival situations.
If one looks at archery and track it's progression thru the years, you can see how things can evolve/devolve over time. If one looks at when the mechanical heads became very popular, it coincides with the time single cam bows (including hybrid cams) became very popular. This time also coincides with the popularity of drop-away rests. A lot of single cams, especially the earlier designs, did not have the best nock travel and the "cure" was to shoot a size stiffer spine arrow. Although this seemed to help, broadhead tuning with fixed blades could be difficult so going to mechanicals was a viable alternative. Also using a drop rest helped to reduces the effect of vertical nock travel that plagued a lot of single cam bows. Fast forward to today and most bow companies are using symmetrical binary cams which offer great nock travel and easy tuning. The use of mechanicals and drop rests are no longer a necessity with todays bows. But the mechanical broadhead has become a mainstay and are a popular choice. The same goes for drop rests. They have become the "standard" rest of today. I prefer a good two bladed broadhead like the Magnus stinger 100 grain. They fly, tune and penetrate very well. I prefer a non-drop-away rest like the Octane hostage pro. But I have used mechanicals and drop rest before with success and have no gripe of them other than the inflated prices.
Sorry but that was me last year, I had always preferred fixed blades for many of the reasons you've explained and I used to shoot the Nugent blade which is similar to a Magnus two blade and always had a large helical on my 4" veins which helps steer the arrow in my old rig. Was never able to get the Blazers to fly good on my new bow with fixed blades so I switched to Mechanicals. Then I watched your tuning videos and tuned my bow and since switched back to fixed blade broadheads for their cutting and pass-through abilities. Thanks!!
I’ve actually had incredible luck with rage broad heads but I was shooting heavy arrows behind them with a 70lb bow. Now I’m trying to get out of the tree and hunt more from the ground, which I think should necessitates higher FOC for flight stability and broad heads that will not partially deploy if hit grass on the way. (I also want to be able to sharpen my own broad for nerd reasons). I switched to cut throat 150s last fall and I love them. My only complaint as a person who is just getting into tuning is that it took me hours and hours to get everything tuned not 30 minutes but I’m sure I’ll get better.
@@Plyply99 when the moment of truth comes up, sometimes people torque bows. I drank the koolaid and bought the heavy arrows too. I tested them and your range estimation better be on or you'll miss. I've never had a failure with fixed or mechs. Il be doing a video on heavy arrows vs the "standard" and probably mechs too.
Great vid! I've been shooting fixes since day 1, and I've been close to swapping (more from curiosity than anything), but then I started researching a bit more. A lot of what I found is right in line with what you're saying. Fixed to start my archery life, fixed to finish.
Your so right, I have gone back and forth with fixed blade and mechanicals broadheads for several years and last year, I completely made up my mind to stick with fixed blade broadheads. I came to that conclusion after shooting at a nice doe last season, only to watch the mechanical broadhead do some crazy curve ball effect in mid flight and plunge straight to the ground a few inches away from the doe. (Never Again!!)
I've been lucky to NEVER have a fail or issue with any mechanical head I've used, but im looking into the black hornet because of your videos. Love that you can eesharppen them and get many more uses out of just one head. Great video.
May I ask your bow speed and an estimate of kinetic energy. I think sir you might be shooting a man bow. These guys crank their limbs down and shoot around 40lbs of kinetic energy and expect their mechanicals to work properly.
Did you have to tune them? Just curious I just ordered some and was wondering how they fly straight out of the box. Also how far out have you pushed out with them practicing?
I’m switching back to fixed blade next year. G5 Striker X 125gr 4 blade. i’m using my Grim Reaper Razorcut mechanicals this year and then keeping them as backups once i switch back to fixed heads.
One word Ramcats. Shot a 14 pointer a few years ago that had a Swacker with four inches of arrow in the front of his chest cavity. The deer was shot ten days earlier by a fellow hunter and was fine and chasing a doe when I shot him.
I also shoot hybrid broadheads just so I can get ultra wide cuts and even if it doesn't work right I still get a little over an inch of cut area but like you so far I haven't had any issues
I switched from mechanical rage hypodermics to the toxics but couldnt group for nothin tuned and tuned and this year i switched to the annihilators and they are beast plus im not the best bow hunter i should practice more but just dont have time and wanted something i could get through a shoulder with if it happened
I’ve shot Muzzy’s and I’ve shot Rage...they both kill deer dead. I think the bigger issue is taking good shots...inside 30yds and broadside. You have a quartering deer or shooting out to 40yds, you take the risk of bringing in the dogs.
I shoot fixed now as I shoot in the 50# range at 29.5" draw length, but I used to use Steelheads at 60#. I shot around 20 animals with them and always had two holes. They are a great mechanical.
Thank you for finally sayin what us old guys have known for years....the argument I've always gotten is it's to much work getting a fixed blade to fly...this sport is supposed to be fun...not work...my reply has always been the same...it is fun...until you release the arrow, then it becomes deadly serious.
Fixed fixed fixed!!!!! There are two hybrids on the market that I’ve tried and killed with. Muzzy trokar, and the Bloodsport gravediggers. Just wish they made a 150 grain head.
Manage an archery shop in Colorado and after seeing 50+ mule deer and elk drop with the grim reaper pro 3 blade I can say they out perform just about every fixed blade on the market and are tougher than most.
It will only take one for you to change your mind If you're behind the bow. I used grim reapers for years with good success and have watched Tim Wells shoot countless animals with them and the pig man they absolutely work but not a 100% of the time. That's why I now shoot a fixed blade. It hurts your feelings losing a deer of a life time because your Broadhead couldn't stand a little bone. I'm still sour over it and will never shoot a grim reperhead again or any other Mechanical head.
Nothing wrong with mechanicals broadheads, I have killed plenty of deers with them(spitfires, Rage, G5), the longest a deer has run after been hit was 75 yards and that was my fault, bad shot. Some of my friends are using fixed blades it seems like those deer 🦌 run a lot father and in a lot of the cases hardly any blood. So this a very debatable subject but in Archery with have a lot of experts!!!!!
I shoot Stingers, and agree with everything you said. You earned my like with the great video. You earned my subscription when you cracked a Yuengling!
Shot 125gr - Magnus Black Hornet and Stinger and Ozcut Hurricane - 505gr total - yesterday, and super impressed with all of them. But I think I'll be going with the Black Hornets for whitetail. Am definitely going to try all of them on hogs and take notes on performance.
Yep, people lump all mechanical broadheads together in order to dismiss them all as a group. There are 1,000s of people that have great results with Grim Reapers. It is one product you hardly ever hear a bad word about, unless someone is just bashing all mechanicals together.
So many adjustable parts on elite bows! Cable guard/limb pockets that is the reason I chose a Mathews over elite. Nothing to come loose. But it did come down to the wire when I chose as the elite was a very very nice bow
I wouldn't actually consider using a mechanical broad head! Surely the standard is a lot more effective? I am planning on moving to hunting from target shooting later this year, and everyone I have spoken to says, 'fixed broad head'. A lot less to go wrong!
Tim Gillingham is a pro... if I would shoot like him I also would try out stuff like that. I am just average so something more forgiving fits me better...
I love shooting Sevr mech broadheads and get pass throughs on goats here in Australia. Best design to open up blades with least amount of opening force required. Only mechs I will shoot. I also shoot 2 and 3 blade fixed broadheads and love them also.
I got a rib deflection from a rage and never shot another mechanical. I could see in my binoculars where the arrow was and it eventually fell out and the deer was taken the next year. Fixed heads don't deflect near as bad.
@@tray22 I've shot many animals that were quartering too with a Rage, never had a deflection. The thing I don't like about Rage is their blades are dull out of the package. They need to be touched up.
if you have access to archery ranges that allow broadheads or have your own land that you can shoot and practice with broadheads then fixed is the way to go.. But for those that live in the suburbs or the city where broadhead shooting is never allowed at any of the ranges then you are forced into using a mechanicals, shot placement is the most important thing and without the ability to verify that the fixed head is shooting the same as your field tips then going with the mechanical is the way to go. Have used the meatseaker mechanicals, rear deploying blades, 3 blade with a 2" cutting diameter, have never had them fail to deploy with all the years I have been using them...
my only aurgument is some of the huge wounds and blood trail some mechanicals provide, and really 2 plus inch clutting area for turkey hunting is great! I have have not had problems genenerally speaking with pass through with bows
I Shot Rockets And had the same issues he has had due to the blades folding front to rear with a solid hinge point at rear of blade. I tried Rage and due to it’s sliding action front to rear openings actually passed thought everyone so far. The hole opened on entry cutting as a open face would. If someone places a bad shot the open head if stuck within the deer would continue to cut a bit better then a un fixed head. Shot placement is Key. I have seen deer live through expandable heads fall out of a animal which then recovered to live on years. I can’t say the same for fixed blade heads. I guess it will be Each Persons Perspective on the Matter.
I have shot 11 elk and dozens of deer with 1 3/8 grim reapor mechanical broad heads. Pass thru on most all deer and only 1 elk, but they all died in very short distances with massive blood trails When you can pass thru a shoulder scapula with a grim reapor mechanical every time what's the problem? Wind drift out west is a real thing and fix blade heads will drift a little more with a 30mph cross wind I don't see how fix blade out perform mechanical heads except penetration and only penetration And if you stop in the opposite side rib cage or shoulder......they dead Which is what happens every time It was hard to make the switch when I originally did back then, but after multiple tried and true results I guess I'm set on mechanical heads"only grim reapor that is"
I talked to a guy who is a pro shooter who told me a story that a guy winning a big tournament with a bow out of tune and he said it was way out. His arrows where fleched wrong . But the guy had perfect form .then he told me he shoot a buck the week before with same set up at 40 yards with fixed blade broad heads . At first I didn't believe him then I read a story of what he did. So i do believe that it's all in your form.
This will be my first year ever hunting and decided on Aflictor K2 fixed. First time ever broadhead tuning and within 20mins I had them grouping with my field points. After first shots, just a dash mark move on my rest and they were flying great at 20 and 25yds. Like you said mechanicals just worry me and the last thing I want to do is just wound a deer with a mechanical head failure and have it walking with a head stuck in it for the rest of its life.
I was using grim reaper white tail special They were great heads but bent like crazy. Went to magnus and did absolutely nothing. They flew perfectly, and actually take a beating. Love em.
This year I went 100% fixed blade. I have had more consistent pass throughs with the G5 Montec and the Magnus stinger which I liked the best of those 2. The mechanicals I have only had one pass through due to being on only one blade opening. Lost only one deer last year using a mechanical and that was it. I am some with them. I still have the Magnus Stinger but I am trying the. cutthroat single bevel this season. So far practicing with the field tips and the one Cutthroat they are flying pretty much the same. All with in an inch of each other.
I think a lot of people don’t have a way get their bow timing set correctly and to many people or buying their bows online so that is where the problem is and the big box stores well that’s another problem
Actually had a hunter arrow a nice 9 point utilizing a Grim Reaper. The mechanic broadhead failed to open. Miraculously the deer laid down and expired 65 yards from the stand. The wound channel was approximately 3/4"s.
I'm currently switching from a mechanical to a fixed(ram cat original). I live out in New Mexico where shots are generally longer. I've noticed the fixed blades are nowhere near as accurate as my mechanicals. At 70+ yards they just won't group as good as my swackers.
Hi, this video hits home I am a 26.5" draw, shoot at 62LBS.. I went down the ranch fairy rabbit hole and i am shooting a 340 spine axis with a magnus fixed blade broadhead. Found out from a friend that the arrow was to heavy. I got some gold-tip ultra light pros that are 400 spine. I'm shooting a Rage hyperdermic . I am in Arizona where the shots are over 60 yards. Did I make the right move. Right now hunting deer and javelina. For elk i might go back to a heavy arrow... any thoughts?
Well said Jack .. This is a difficult topic to convert any archer..Go with what pleases you best ..For me it’s the Bishop 3 blade Holy Trinity 200 gr and the Tooth of the Arrow 4 blade 175 gr . Both broadheads are cdc machined bar stock .. FOC 600 gr .. Bottom line ..Complete control of your breathing and aim small , miss small 🦌🦌Good luck youngster I’m 86😃
I bought the magnus stingers and they shot good from my lower speed xbow, however the new whitetail pro str is too fast and they whip out to the left and not in a tight group. NO I don't have the blade aligned with the fletching as I dont have inserts. Trying the mega meat once and then back to G5 Montecs if an issue
I've had great success using rage 2blades and swhackers but changed it up last year and used some wasp drones and they fly great no tuning needed there all pretty good just all personal preference shoot what ever shoots the best for you
I have shot Zwickys since 93, except for 2 seasons.. went right back. Started with Eskimo now shooting delta and no mercy. Still have 5 of my original Eskimos but my youngest shoot them now.
Dude your my hero, when I had my shop I preached the same story no one believed and I said if you get a big buck in front of you your going to loose him. Sure enough it happened at least 2 times a year. But I gave up preaching. Im glad to see you preaching.
Well....I guess I'll go against the grain on this one. My thoughts are shoot what gives you the most confidence. I to have shot Muzzy trocars and phantoms, slick trick grizz, viper, and magnum tricks, land sharks, wasps, steelforce, and while they all shoot ok and 90% of the time have pass throughs, I still find myself tracking deer 100+ yards routinely. Just for fun, I switched to shwackers one year along with Rages, and as long as I did my part and stayed away from the shoulder, I got some of the most dramatic blood trails I have ever seen. I've been bowhunting for 32 years and It takes a LOT to impress me but, both the Rages and Shwackers both wowed me. So, until the day comes along that I'm very disappointed with my current setup, nothing is going to change. Great video BTW!
I just arrive to the comments to see the Rage ppl 😁
Same I hop from video to video 😂🤣
Opening cans of worms and stirring pots. I love it. And I agree. I love watching my friends try to justify mechanicals when they don’t tune their bows or practice shooting past 40 yards. It’s definitely not the broadhead that’s the problem...
Great video as always, totally okay to ruffle some feathers when you're giving people the solution at the same time, thanks for taking the time to educate newbies like myself 😊
I still shoot my old Pearson Compound Bow that I got back in the late 80's. I use... Wait for it... "ALUMINUM" Arrows (OMG!!!!)
I originally bought with it as well. I have it set at 72 Lbs. I keep it tuned & ready to go to this day. I figure if the Indians could
hunt with a Bow made from a stick with bone or obsidian tipped arrows, I could make a go for it. It has, and continues, to work
very well for me & many a Buck have ended up in my Chest Freezer over the years. Thanks for the video! You have a new subscriber!
I used to shoot a Pearson Spoiler (1991) at 72 lbs. with aluminum arrows and killed several hogs. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.
I came to compound from a Trad background. So a fixed, cut on contact is all I've ever used. So when I started using a compound I looked at mechanicals. First thing put me off was lack of weight. I use a 200g grain broadhead. Second was I like things as simple as possible. So here I am, basically shooting the same arrow just with vanes not Feathers 😁
I'm about to fletch my new Vulcans with feathers 😂
I've had a lot of success with Rage Mechanicals but after 3ea FAILS I went to a fixed single bevel cut on contact 2years ago .( 150 hr Cut Throat 1&1/8" ) and I'll never shoot mechanicals again
How did the rages fail?
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The last time I had a 100gr insert up front with the 2+Rage chisle tip and a simple 30yd broadside shot I aimed hit dead on the shoulder scapula ( bad shot on me ) the arrow hit the bone and due to the large opening size of the mechanical only penetrated a couple inches and literally fell out immediately as the buck spun to run ...flesh wound only , a buddy of mine killed him a week later nice 130" 9pt.
Technically not a failure but due to the mechanical opening being too big it could not penetrate the bone .
My arrow set up was 16 % FOC my bow a 72 lb PSE Evo Max .
The actual failures was once on a medium to hard quartering away shot same rage broadhead type deflected and the other failure came open in flight causing me to hit the deer in the hind flank ...actually cut an artery so recovered that one 👍
@@ronnielkier EXACT same thing happened to me. got 3 inches of penetration and the arrow bounced out of the deer and richocheted right out of the flesh. I saw the arrow bounce out before the deer even knew what hit him. Using a rage NC.
Cutthroats are a great broadhead
@@Atheos119 Had one that sheared the blades off at the point where the blade opening extension lines up with the opened blade while shooting into a Walmart foam block target.
Maybe some day I'll have a failure. Until then I'm shooting mechs. My arrows are 6" deep in the dirt with a 2" cut mech on it after blowing through even mature bucks. All but one of my 19 kills thus far. The one outlier was a bit of a mis shot that got the shoulder blade. Went completely through the scapula, both lungs, out the other side. The fetching held the arrow in the deer and fell out almost immediately when he took off. No reason to cut a smaller hole just to stick the arrow a couple more inches in the dirt.
What weight is the arrow? What weight insert? FOC?
@@DrPsychlops and how many pounds are you pulling on your bow? If you like mechs then continue using them. I'm not mad at you for it. For me, to much can go wrong and don't want to risk bonking on the deer of a life time because my broadhead failed.
@@davidholliday3286 never used a mech in my life. Pulling 65, have Tuffhead single bevel 200gr. Arrow weight is about 640 total. They go slow but I'm not shooting outside of 40 yards and anything in that range is going to have two holes.
Agreed brother!!!
Use grim reaper no problems if you have enough kinetic energy! Just pick the model that you can use on your bow!
Switched to Magnus Black Hornets this year. Also bought some Stingers. Never going back to mechanicals. Can't wait for the season to start. Good luck everyone!
I was shooting Grim Reaper 3-blade mechanical heads, never had any issues. Killed 8 deer with them. Switched to fixed blades this season, because I wanted to try them. Tried the Muzzy "One" and love it. So, for me, I can use either type. I plan to use Magnus next season.
Shooting G5 montec and I upped the FOC abit with my arrows by adding 100 grain inserts. 15.3% FOC should pen quite nicely.
There is no question that fixed broadheads are tougher and more reliable than mechanical heads. And yes there are people that don't tune their bows and use mechanical heads because it's easier for them. But fixed heads steer the arrow so the forgiveness factor of the mechanical heads can't be ignored. If your in a stand and shooting at a deer with an elevated heart rate, aiming angled downward, leaning a little and you punch the trigger a little a mechanical head will be more forgiving and give you a better chance at hitting where you are aiming. If the fixed heads start slightly off direction they continue in that off direction because again they steer. Another thing is speed. If your shooting a fast setup a fixed head with any size to it can be difficult to get consistent flight. I've read several articles where they tested fixed blade heads and they said they become more inconsistent when they reach speeds of 280 fps and higher.
You showed RF early in the video and he is for using heavy arrows with fixed heads for more penetration. And it works. But he is slowing the arrows down significantly with the heavier arrows thus getting better fixed head flight. You also mentioned your wife's bow shooting big fixed heads well but she is also shooting slow speeds which helps with that.
I only hunt whitetails. Ive shot fixed blade heads most of my life and only a couple of mechanical heads. They have all worked for me. There are only a handful or less of mechanical heads I would even consider. Right now I'm shooting 315 fps with a mechanical head that gives a 1 inch entrance hole and almost a 2" exit hole and it breaks bone with ease shooting 80 lbs of kinetic energy. Even if the head didn't open which has never happened I still would get a 1 inch hole.
We have to stop this crap saying your not an adult if you don't shoot these particular broadheads or these arrows. It's stupid. Everyone shoots different KE, different game and at different distances. Shoot what works best for you. Being accurate and making 2 holes is at the top of my list.
true that brother
As a returning Bowhunter....and now, have had the great experience of my 12 y/o Daughter asking to go Bow Hunting with me.. the thrill I had. With all the new hi-Tech equipment....milled spex. It is a lot to absorb. It is a blessing to know there are archers, Bow Hunters like yourself that give such easy to understand; Pros and Cons, personal opinions and and advice. I took a friends advice and screwed on a Rage Mech. Broadhead. I know, this is most likely operator error. I always used a Fixed in my prime hunting days. As I pulled back on my bow...one of the blades dropped out. I had to recoil...that deer most likely is feeding someone else. The next time; was a miss due to the erratic flight of the arrow. I didn't' want to give up..until I watched this...I'm going back to fixed, and setting my daughter up as well. Thank you very much. God Bless
185 gr glue-on single bevel Grizzlys with a 35 gr adapter on a 29.25" for an overall arrow weight around 605 gr. Flies as good as my 215 gr field points and had a complete pass through on a good size mule deer buck at 55 yards last year.
That’s a great combo, bet you could shoot through any hog or elk or bear around
@@bwfreel one of my favorite quotes from RF when he's talking to the Hunting Public guys on their podcast is when he has bow shop guys asking "what are you shooting with that!?" And he's like "they are admitting that this system is effective!"
Grizzly makes great heads. I really wish more companies would follow their lead and use 1075 or 1095 steel as well. It takes a great edge( much better than most highspeed tool steels) it's cheap and durable. I shot a buck with one a couple years ago( with a 72lb recurve) and it zipped straight through and lodged 3 inches into a tree on the other side...after breaking 2 ribs...looked almost new.
I like the simplicity of Slick Trick broadheads. Like you said, they are very easy to sharpen. If they don't shoot well, you are doing something wrong or something is wrong with your equipment. I personally like the Viper Trick, but the standard & Magnum are also great broadheads! Slick Tricks do everything (accurate, easy to sharpen, somewhat durable) that I want a broadhead to do. Unless they disappear from the market, I don't see myself shooting anything else. I shot Muzzy 3 blades for decades, but I have grown fond of 4 blade Slick Tricks.
Love your positivity. Best of luck this year
Love tuning my bows, and took the time to tune a fixed blade. Shot a Slick Trick Wicked Trick and she shot right with my field points at 60 yards and in. I've since shot 3 animals with them. First about a 175# sow wild hog. She bled like CRAZY! Was super impressed. Followed the blood trail for about 100 yards, and ran up on the pig still alive. Had to finish her off with my pistol. Second, had a doe at 15 yards, quartering away. Shooting 450gr arrow with 17%FOC for the record. Shot at the offside shoulder, and it stuck in the shoulder. Tiny drops of blood, tracked a couple hundred yards and ended up not finding her. Last doe I shot, it did fine, although there wasn't much blood, found her after about 50-60 yards. That was a broadside shot that went through and through at around 18 yards. I haven't been very impressed with the fixed blade as of now. Will give it a few more chances, but I'm awfully close to switching back to Mechanical. One of my main things is I'm not a "sharpener" I shoot a deer with it, it becomes a hog broadhead. After I shoot a hog with it, it goes in the trash. I simply buy more, its not like I'm buying 5 packs per year.
Thanks for another excellent video. Your videos are not only informative, but quite entertaining, as well. I've had excellent success with Rage mechanicals for the last 10 years, but you provided some good information to think about.
Great info! I also switched to Magnus this year and I have great arrow flight! I've sharpened them and they're ready for deer season!
I’ve shot a fixed blade Montec g5 for over ten years now . Blown thru lots of deer 🦌 they fly great
Mr.Damien sir, any broad head will pass threw the lung area the problem is when you hit bone, rib bone, piece of shoulder bone I can guarantee a pass threw with a fixed but never a expandable. If you think about it you need so much more speed or poundage to make the expandable open up. If any hunter would be honest with them selves im sure you all expandable deer hunters can admit to loosing a deer to no blood trail. I used an expandable one time and I lost one of the biggest bucks I have ever shot. I threw them out went home and resighted in with my fixed broad head went back out killed 7 deer that year. Im not lieing leave it up to you. If you haven't lost a monster dont wait till you do.
Joseph papele montec g5 I shoot is a fixed broad head!
@@josephpapale7087 The G5s are fixed blade bud
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Thought they were expandable and fixed
I shoot the G5 deadmeat mechanical heads and I can't say anything bad about them. They blow through every time and the exit wound is shocking . haven't lost a deer yet using these. I did a test using the cheapest of the cheap , Allen 3 blade fixed broadheads .they are about $5 for a 3 pack vs rage and G5 products. The crazy thing was at 30 yards using all 3 types didn't have to move my sight at all. All flew well ,about the only big difference I found was the sharpness of the blades and the diameter . All were 100grain heads.the second thing was penetration . the G5 deadmeat heads went a full inch deeper and expanded best out of the mechanicals. So I have to agree with you G5 product are definitely worth the money.
Nice to know old school is still relevant . And excels . I agree and will keep on keeping on . Thx .
I have no issues with the grim reaper razor tip or white tail special opening completely every time creating massive damage and passing through both javelina and deer. Not to mention they fly phenomenally and leave behind a blood trail that looks like a murder scene. Not sold yet on fixed.
I'm with ya.
Yeah man same here👍🏽
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On point 100% keep up the great content!
So it makes me insane when people talk about mechanical broadheads like they more often than not fail. I've been using Rage broadheads since they came out and only lost a couple deer (both lived) because I hit them in the shoulder BONE. I've had several pass thrus (50% at least) and several bad shots. All dead deer because the entry and/or exit is so massive. My 1st few years of serious hunting I shot Thunderheads and they worked just fine, but the Rage and broadheads like it are way more devastating and easier to track. I compare a fixed blade to gun hunting, in that the blood trails are spotty or non existent within the 1st 30-40yds. With a good mechanical, you get instant blood that you don't have to strain to see. Not knocking fixed blades, but with a well placed shot from either, the blood trails and devastation is greater with the mechanical. Not to mention, on shots that we all make that aren't perfect you have a better chance of recovering a deer with a larger cut.
Exactly what we've been saying.. shoot for maximum hemorrhaging. and no matter what shit you shoot, getting through that shoulder bone wont happen often, so may as well shoot a big cutting diameter that will help you up down and back on your shot placement. How is it that all these youtube boys started shooting smaller fixed heads and lost more deer/had to get tracking dogs more in two seasons than ever before? I think people will look back on this and the wound loss rate will speak for itself. arrows kill from hemorrhaging, prioritized cutting over pass through penetration.
I switched to fixed blades last year. I had been shooting Rage since 2011. Never had a failure. However, I did an experiment on how different broadheads fly, and Rage did not fly as well at longer distances as some other fixed blades.
Finally someone else that isn't afraid to stand up to the mechanical train! Only thing I shoot a mechanical for is turkey hunting. I have been shooting 125 grain Thunderheads for over 30 years and only a few times not gotten an exit wound on over 100 whitetails!
Got into bowhunting in 1991, I always used fixed when tuning, I tune and practice with what I'll be hunting with...I've change bows release's, rests, went back to a keller pendulum, but I still use NAP Thunderheads ,from 125 gr to 100 gr with carbon arrows....
Them meat sticks have never failed, never lost any deer.....
Absolutely love Troy. Got my Ashby arrow (650 grain 19% foc) for big agriculture hogs and deer. I had one bad experience and I went to magnus. Literally the best flying head. Period. And they don’t snap when I bend em!
Thanks for sharing your experience, knowledge and passion for the sport.
Good stuff as always!
Ha ha! Love this. Been using fixed two or three blade for nearly 40 years. I have NEVER lost a deer and only two turkeys- honest!!! They just work and they never fail to deploy- haha!!! Good video again Mr.
oh man...i was painting my house now i have to stop to.watch this , thanks nate!!
I agree with 100% of everything you said in this video and I'm the type to always have 2 pennies in my pocket. I believe in eliminating things that are unnecessary to prevent a rogue failure. The only real difference is that I use QAD because they feature DEATH as well as being made in the US of Murica. Keep up the great vids.
Also, that's a pretty rad hoodie! I just picked up my first brand new bow last year and decided on the Ritual 30 and haven't regretted it whatsoever.
Ohhhh... you make it sound so simple! I guess that’s because it is. Thank you. Awesome video.
I could only focus on 50 per cent of all that great info...the rest of the time I was watching your hand gesticulations near those blades and couldn't relax. Great video. Really enjoy your channel.Total stream of consciousness, no ums and ahs all over the place.
I was on the edge of using a fixed blade this year... needless to say this video pushed me over! Good luck this season from a fellow pa hunter
Get some rages, I always have complete pass through, and they cut through bone like it's butter. They just work better and cut more
I have relatively cheap fixed heads, 4 blades, NO screws, the blades are all held by the ring on the bottom of the arrow head. Materials just the same as some NAP heads.
You don't need to go fancy for good results and as you said easy and effective maintenance are so important especially in emergency or survival situations.
Great video, love seeing your production evolving!
If one looks at archery and track it's progression thru the years, you can see how things can evolve/devolve over time. If one looks at when the mechanical heads became very popular, it coincides with the time single cam bows (including hybrid cams) became very popular. This time also coincides with the popularity of drop-away rests. A lot of single cams, especially the earlier designs, did not have the best nock travel and the "cure" was to shoot a size stiffer spine arrow. Although this seemed to help, broadhead tuning with fixed blades could be difficult so going to mechanicals was a viable alternative. Also using a drop rest helped to reduces the effect of vertical nock travel that plagued a lot of single cam bows.
Fast forward to today and most bow companies are using symmetrical binary cams which offer great nock travel and easy tuning. The use of mechanicals and drop rests are no longer a necessity with todays bows. But the mechanical broadhead has become a mainstay and are a popular choice. The same goes for drop rests. They have become the "standard" rest of today.
I prefer a good two bladed broadhead like the Magnus stinger 100 grain. They fly, tune and penetrate very well. I prefer a non-drop-away rest like the Octane hostage pro. But I have used mechanicals and drop rest before with success and have no gripe of them other than the inflated prices.
Sorry but that was me last year, I had always preferred fixed blades for many of the reasons you've explained and I used to shoot the Nugent blade which is similar to a Magnus two blade and always had a large helical on my 4" veins which helps steer the arrow in my old rig. Was never able to get the Blazers to fly good on my new bow with fixed blades so I switched to Mechanicals. Then I watched your tuning videos and tuned my bow and since switched back to fixed blade broadheads for their cutting and pass-through abilities.
Thanks!!
I’ve actually had incredible luck with rage broad heads but I was shooting heavy arrows behind them with a 70lb bow. Now I’m trying to get out of the tree and hunt more from the ground, which I think should necessitates higher FOC for flight stability and broad heads that will not partially deploy if hit grass on the way. (I also want to be able to sharpen my own broad for nerd reasons). I switched to cut throat 150s last fall and I love them. My only complaint as a person who is just getting into tuning is that it took me hours and hours to get everything tuned not 30 minutes but I’m sure I’ll get better.
Iron Will 125S for me. I shot a 330” Bull this yr with a complete pass through and the arrow stuck in a tree. Bull went 60yrds. 🏹
Did you get it out of the tree?! Those are the golf of the broadhead world!
Mechanicals are awesome, fixed are awesome. I'll be using mechanicals this year.
Why??
@@Plyply99 because not everyone does what the hunting public or the ranch fairy does.
@@Plyply99 when the moment of truth comes up, sometimes people torque bows. I drank the koolaid and bought the heavy arrows too. I tested them and your range estimation better be on or you'll miss. I've never had a failure with fixed or mechs. Il be doing a video on heavy arrows vs the "standard" and probably mechs too.
Love this stuff! Keep it coming!
I bought a few different brands of mechanicals last year...some good,some quality sucked.
Made the switch back to coc. And glad I did!
Great vid! I've been shooting fixes since day 1, and I've been close to swapping (more from curiosity than anything), but then I started researching a bit more. A lot of what I found is right in line with what you're saying. Fixed to start my archery life, fixed to finish.
Your so right, I have gone back and forth with fixed blade and mechanicals broadheads for several years and last year, I completely made up my mind to stick with fixed blade broadheads. I came to that conclusion after shooting at a nice doe last season, only to watch the mechanical broadhead do some crazy curve ball effect in mid flight and plunge straight to the ground a few inches away from the doe. (Never Again!!)
I've been lucky to NEVER have a fail or issue with any mechanical head I've used, but im looking into the black hornet because of your videos. Love that you can eesharppen them and get many more uses out of just one head. Great video.
May I ask your bow speed and an estimate of kinetic energy. I think sir you might be shooting a man bow. These guys crank their limbs down and shoot around 40lbs of kinetic energy and expect their mechanicals to work properly.
@@stevoky my one bow was a Bowtech Admiral 60# 380gr arrow 270fps and my other bow is a Mathews Halon 32 70# 420gr arrow never speed tested this bow
Have shot 100 grain 2 inch shwackers for 5 years. Have never not had a pass through and the 1 deer I didn’t recover was a high bad shot on my part.
Good stuff, made the switch the Magnus Black hornet this year. Flying like darts.
Same here
Same
Did you have to tune them? Just curious I just ordered some and was wondering how they fly straight out of the box. Also how far out have you pushed out with them practicing?
@@illinoispublicland4680 the ones I had I didn’t have to make any tuning adjustments to match my field points. That was shooting them out to 40 yards.
@@brandonjohnson5338 awesome to hear thanks for the reply! Looking forward to testing them out this season.
Teacher was in a mood today.
Good lesson though.
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I switched from mechanical back to slick tricks about 5 years ago!! It’s a no brainer!
I’m switching back to fixed blade next year. G5 Striker X 125gr 4 blade. i’m using my Grim Reaper Razorcut mechanicals this year and then keeping them as backups once i switch back to fixed heads.
One word Ramcats. Shot a 14 pointer a few years ago that had a Swacker with four inches of arrow in the front of his chest cavity. The deer was shot ten days earlier by a fellow hunter and was fine and chasing a doe when I shot him.
I use Hybrid blades , only shot 3 deer in my life, all three went 20 yrds and dropped, best of both worlds IMO. (2 bucks , 1 doe btw)
I also shoot hybrid broadheads just so I can get ultra wide cuts and even if it doesn't work right I still get a little over an inch of cut area but like you so far I haven't had any issues
I switched from mechanical rage hypodermics to the toxics but couldnt group for nothin tuned and tuned and this year i switched to the annihilators and they are beast plus im not the best bow hunter i should practice more but just dont have time and wanted something i could get through a shoulder with if it happened
Good thoughts and info, thanks.
Whitetails....Wasp Jak Hammers...100 grain...430 grain arrow...66 pound DW. I like my mech, the flight and the blood trails...
well done and well said!
I’ve shot Muzzy’s and I’ve shot Rage...they both kill deer dead. I think the bigger issue is taking good shots...inside 30yds and broadside. You have a quartering deer or shooting out to 40yds, you take the risk of bringing in the dogs.
I shoot fixed now as I shoot in the 50# range at 29.5" draw length, but I used to use Steelheads at 60#. I shot around 20 animals with them and always had two holes. They are a great mechanical.
Thank you for finally sayin what us old guys have known for years....the argument I've always gotten is it's to much work getting a fixed blade to fly...this sport is supposed to be fun...not work...my reply has always been the same...it is fun...until you release the arrow, then it becomes deadly serious.
Fixed fixed fixed!!!!! There are two hybrids on the market that I’ve tried and killed with. Muzzy trokar, and the Bloodsport gravediggers. Just wish they made a 150 grain head.
honestly same, I'd give more mechs a try too if they came in 150 gr
Manage an archery shop in Colorado and after seeing 50+ mule deer and elk drop with the grim reaper pro 3 blade I can say they out perform just about every fixed blade on the market and are tougher than most.
It will only take one for you to change your mind If you're behind the bow. I used grim reapers for years with good success and have watched Tim Wells shoot countless animals with them and the pig man they absolutely work but not a 100% of the time. That's why I now shoot a fixed blade. It hurts your feelings losing a deer of a life time because your Broadhead couldn't stand a little bone. I'm still sour over it and will never shoot a grim reperhead again or any other Mechanical head.
Use the hybrid grim reaper penetrates the same as the fixed blade!
Nothing wrong with mechanicals broadheads, I have killed plenty of deers with them(spitfires, Rage, G5), the longest a deer has run after been hit was 75 yards and that was my fault, bad shot. Some of my friends are using fixed blades it seems like those deer 🦌 run a lot father and in a lot of the cases hardly any blood. So this a very debatable subject but in Archery with have a lot of experts!!!!!
@Immanuel Sandryka you boys are based
Well done. To each their own but my logic mirrors yours, only ever shoot fixed.
I shoot Stingers, and agree with everything you said. You earned my like with the great video. You earned my subscription when you cracked a Yuengling!
I absolutely agree. I started with fixed blade and continue to shoot them. Why change what works?
Shot 125gr - Magnus Black Hornet and Stinger and Ozcut Hurricane - 505gr total - yesterday, and super impressed with all of them. But I think I'll be going with the Black Hornets for whitetail. Am definitely going to try all of them on hogs and take notes on performance.
I’m actually switching from fixed to mechanicals this year. Grim reapers are just nasty. And accurate. Still like my stingers though.
Yep, people lump all mechanical broadheads together in order to dismiss them all as a group. There are 1,000s of people that have great results with Grim Reapers. It is one product you hardly ever hear a bad word about, unless someone is just bashing all mechanicals together.
This season I have switched to VPA single bevel broadheads on both my compound and my longbow... I'll let you know how it goes.
You do a great job man. Enjoying your topics
So many adjustable parts on elite bows! Cable guard/limb pockets that is the reason I chose a Mathews over elite. Nothing to come loose. But it did come down to the wire when I chose as the elite was a very very nice bow
I wouldn't actually consider using a mechanical broad head! Surely the standard is a lot more effective? I am planning on moving to hunting from target shooting later this year, and everyone I have spoken to says, 'fixed broad head'. A lot less to go wrong!
Ole Tim Gillingham is the opposite of ranch fairy. He likes a light super fast arrow and mechanical broadheads.
Tim Gillingham is a pro... if I would shoot like him I also would try out stuff like that. I am just average so something more forgiving fits me better...
I love shooting Sevr mech broadheads and get pass throughs on goats here in Australia. Best design to open up blades with least amount of opening force required. Only mechs I will shoot.
I also shoot 2 and 3 blade fixed broadheads and love them also.
Great. Now I've got the push to go out Thursday and retune for my fixed blades. dang it,,,,,,
What hurts my feelings is that mechanical broadheads are still a thing.
I got a rib deflection from a rage and never shot another mechanical. I could see in my binoculars where the arrow was and it eventually fell out and the deer was taken the next year. Fixed heads don't deflect near as bad.
@@tray22 I've shot many animals that were quartering too with a Rage, never had a deflection. The thing I don't like about Rage is their blades are dull out of the package. They need to be touched up.
if you have access to archery ranges that allow broadheads or have your own land that you can shoot and practice with broadheads then fixed is the way to go.. But for those that live in the suburbs or the city where broadhead shooting is never allowed at any of the ranges then you are forced into using a mechanicals, shot placement is the most important thing and without the ability to verify that the fixed head is shooting the same as your field tips then going with the mechanical is the way to go. Have used the meatseaker mechanicals, rear deploying blades, 3 blade with a 2" cutting diameter, have never had them fail to deploy with all the years I have been using them...
Never got on that hype train learned how to tune my bow and broad heads a long time ago.85 grain thunderheads.if it breaks I’ll fix it.
my only aurgument is some of the huge wounds and blood trail some mechanicals provide, and really 2 plus inch clutting area for turkey hunting is great! I have have not had problems genenerally speaking with pass through with bows
Good video, you were relatable, funny, informative, and polished... Hats off
Glad you enjoyed it!
I Shot Rockets And had the same issues he has had due to the blades folding front to rear with a solid hinge point at rear of blade. I tried Rage and due to it’s sliding action front to rear openings actually passed thought everyone so far. The hole opened on entry cutting as a open face would. If someone places a bad shot the open head if stuck within the deer would continue to cut a bit better then a un fixed head. Shot placement is Key.
I have seen deer live through expandable heads fall out of a animal which then recovered to live on years. I can’t say the same for fixed blade heads. I guess it will be Each Persons Perspective on the Matter.
I have shot 11 elk and dozens of deer with 1 3/8 grim reapor mechanical broad heads.
Pass thru on most all deer and only 1 elk, but they all died in very short distances with massive blood trails
When you can pass thru a shoulder scapula with a grim reapor mechanical every time what's the problem?
Wind drift out west is a real thing and fix blade heads will drift a little more with a 30mph cross wind
I don't see how fix blade out perform mechanical heads except penetration and only penetration
And if you stop in the opposite side rib cage or shoulder......they dead
Which is what happens every time
It was hard to make the switch when I originally did back then, but after multiple tried and true results I guess I'm set on mechanical heads"only grim reapor that is"
I talked to a guy who is a pro shooter who told me a story that a guy winning a big tournament with a bow out of tune and he said it was way out. His arrows where fleched wrong . But the guy had perfect form .then he told me he shoot a buck the week before with same set up at 40 yards with fixed blade broad heads . At first I didn't believe him then I read a story of what he did. So i do believe that it's all in your form.
This will be my first year ever hunting and decided on Aflictor K2 fixed. First time ever broadhead tuning and within 20mins I had them grouping with my field points. After first shots, just a dash mark move on my rest and they were flying great at 20 and 25yds. Like you said mechanicals just worry me and the last thing I want to do is just wound a deer with a mechanical head failure and have it walking with a head stuck in it for the rest of its life.
I was using grim reaper white tail special They were great heads but bent like crazy. Went to magnus and did absolutely nothing. They flew perfectly, and actually take a beating. Love em.
I shot the rage broad heads for years but stopped it a few years ago I’m going with the Kudu broad heads this year
This year I went 100% fixed blade. I have had more consistent pass throughs with the G5 Montec and the Magnus stinger which I liked the best of those 2. The mechanicals I have only had one pass through due to being on only one blade opening. Lost only one deer last year using a mechanical and that was it. I am some with them. I still have the Magnus Stinger but I am trying the. cutthroat single bevel this season. So far practicing with the field tips and the one Cutthroat they are flying pretty much the same. All with in an inch of each other.
I love g5 montecs but these damn rage trypans are just deadly
I think a lot of people don’t have a way get their bow timing set correctly and to many people or buying their bows online so that is where the problem is and the big box stores well that’s another problem
Actually had a hunter arrow a nice 9 point utilizing a Grim Reaper. The mechanic broadhead failed to open. Miraculously the deer laid down and expired 65 yards from the stand. The wound channel was approximately 3/4"s.
What he do shoot the practice head lol It's almost impossible for a grim reaper not to open.
I'm currently switching from a mechanical to a fixed(ram cat original). I live out in New Mexico where shots are generally longer. I've noticed the fixed blades are nowhere near as accurate as my mechanicals. At 70+ yards they just won't group as good as my swackers.
Hi, this video hits home I am a 26.5" draw, shoot at 62LBS.. I went down the ranch fairy rabbit hole and i am shooting a 340 spine axis with a magnus fixed blade broadhead. Found out from a friend that the arrow was to heavy. I got some gold-tip ultra light pros that are 400 spine. I'm shooting a Rage hyperdermic . I am in Arizona where the shots are over 60 yards. Did I make the right move. Right now hunting deer and javelina. For elk i might go back to a heavy arrow... any thoughts?
Well said Jack .. This is a difficult topic to convert any archer..Go with what pleases you best ..For me it’s the Bishop 3 blade Holy Trinity 200 gr and the Tooth of the Arrow 4 blade 175 gr . Both broadheads are cdc machined bar stock .. FOC 600 gr .. Bottom line ..Complete control of your breathing and aim small , miss small 🦌🦌Good luck youngster I’m 86😃
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I bought the magnus stingers and they shot good from my lower speed xbow, however the new whitetail pro str is too fast and they whip out to the left and not in a tight group. NO I don't have the blade aligned with the fletching as I dont have inserts. Trying the mega meat once and then back to G5 Montecs if an issue
I've had great success using rage 2blades and swhackers but changed it up last year and used some wasp drones and they fly great no tuning needed there all pretty good just all personal preference shoot what ever shoots the best for you
I have shot Zwickys since 93, except for 2 seasons.. went right back. Started with Eskimo now shooting delta and no mercy. Still have 5 of my original Eskimos but my youngest shoot them now.
I shoot Ramcat fixed blades, but have a soft spot for the Tru-glo titanium 4 blades. Very sharp and tough broadheads