As a person who uses the F89D. It's an incredible aircraft if you play it right. It took me months to learn the aircraft. There have been games where I get 6-8 kills and games where I get killed by props in the first 2 min. At speed it turns like a school bus with no wheels and has such a big air frame it's easy to 1 shot.
the fuck, it's not easy to one shot, it tanks literal bombs detonated near it. You literally have this video as a proof that it's not easy to one shot.
you're about 2 years past it's in-game prime, the B used to have a higher fire rate, and could pen almost every vehicle from the roof (save for the MAUS). It's engines were also more powerful. On top of that, for a long time, the outer wingtip fuel tanks would make it so the plane couldn't lose it's wings, you could literally be hit with a missile and the wings were fine. It's since been nerfed into a shell of what it once was. Slower firerate, worse pen on the guns, worse engine performance. when it was good, it was at BR 7.7, and it was the king. Nowadays, it's still ok, but nothing compared to what it once was. the reason it sits so low now is that nobody really uses it much anymore, so the people who do use it usually are noobs to it, and as such, drag the stats further down.
Hey webe , just so you know that IAS(indicated air speed) meabs that what the instruments in the aircraft shows you(speed). And the instruments in the aircraft uses air that is flowing by the aircraft. So speed is different. The speed means how fast you are relatively to the ground . So now lets join them . We know that when we go higher into the sky the air gets thinner and thinner so the air which is flowing by the aircraft , gets reduced as the aircraft is climbing higher. So the IAS goes down but actually your real speed goes higher, only if your aircraft can pull it self in that climb. ❤❤
12:21 “speed” in wack thunder is ground speed (actual speed), ias is airspeed. If you are going fast enough in a climb that will happen because of lower air pressure at higher altitude
The f89 is op until you realize your aim camera is above the rudder which means you can't lead for shit if your zoom isn't binded to your scroll wheel.
Update: the nerfed the rockets on the other version and this plane compresses horribly and flies like a bus. It takes a great pilot to make this a serviceable jet. If you hit however this jet annihilates and once you get the hang of it it is potent
I love the little afterburners! Its a shame you have to buy the B to be able to buy the D version with the meme rockets😢 Great vid as always man keep up the good work!
The two speeds are indicated and true. Your indicated AirSpeed goes down at higher altitude because the air density is lower as you climb higher. Because it's less dense you have less drag and have to go faster to maintain a higher indicated which makes your true AirSpeed faster. And you consume less fuel.
@@luka2625 yet it's much slower, has half the ammo and guns, and it's by far harder to aim since it's guns are both slow and imprecise, not turning is not a problem with the specs of the 89 bozo
Play the premium P-36 in the American tech tree. You get a 50 cal can turn with the biplanes and severely out climb them too. Plus at Br 1.3 the opponents know nothing about dogfighting. Straight up easy mode.
This and the other premium F89 people on your team would just TK you right off the bat on the air field that's how much people use to HATE this jet when it first came out. Mostly the F89D though and you don't see to many people playing the D version really anymore cuz most end up blowing up teammates with the rockets instead of the enemy.
People either say it’s the most broken thing or absolute garbage. I’m in the camp of calling it garbage. I just can’t mesh with it. I’d take a 262 for the maneuverability all day long
@@WeBeStronk it’s turn rate may be fine, but I absolutely struggle with getting it’s nose on target. I mean I’m not a bad player. Like I pretty often get 4-6 kill games in the U1, but when I try flying my F-89 (both variants) I just can’t set shots up. Maybe it is just a style/skill issue, but the F-89 is hot garbage in my hands. Edit: I really like the idea of the jet and want to do well. I’ve watched so many videos to try to see what I’m missing. I will figure it out one day
@@WeBeStronk I’ll just have to keep trying at it. It’s just funny because I can take jets that I know are supposed to be worse and do perfectly fine or great and then this “thing” vexes me🥲
@@WeBeStronk I had to stop watching to handle something, but 8:40 is what I constantly feel. I guess I just need to watch my over speeding. Edit: Same thing at 10:50
WeBe, I've heard you pronounce Kuban wrong, I'm not trying to critique you or anything simply want to point out that it is supposed to be pronounced Cooban` (Coo-Cookie, ba-battle, n` - like new but without the you sound). Hope to see more content from you, you are one of the most favorite content creators I watch.
So I was searching for it on the comments, but nobody said it first so I looked it up on Wikipedia: "First flight: 16th August of 1948" Holy sh*t is a pre-korean war jet with afterburner. Also it made its maiden flight only 8 months after the MiG-15 and 3 months after the F3D. So I guess if BRs were time-based it is on the correct BR.
@@Diegomehhh jets should be differentiated by performance, not by anything else. Otherwise you get stuff like Me 163 at 7.0 because “it’s a WW2 thing” that will absolutely annihilate anything in the lobby. Time of introduction should never be prioritised over the performance of a vehicle In my opinion.
this plane is actually unplayable if youre opponent knows what he is doing, u cant realy dive with it , it locks HORRIBLY at high speeds beyond 600, so you cant really do a hard turn if your opponent does a 180 and dives away, it does not roll or turn at all...basically if a support fighter at every br tbh. and good luck diving after enemys, 910 kph is rip speed.
I have the F-89B and it DOES NOT even get to 600 without the wings literally rattling off. Very misleading stats as it does not match the specs at all. The safest speed you can fly that bird is under 575 mph. Goes nowhere near 600, much less the 628 its supposed to do. It is fast tho, and at 7.0 it can outrun most within the BR, however it cant turn and it also cannot climb the 9700+ it claims.
There needs to be a historical year, and what generation jet needs to be taken into account when adding new jets and rating BRs for the jet match matching
I kinda wonder why they made the F-89B a premium? I would not be too confused if it was only the F89D but the F89B? Like Gajin could just add it to the us tech tree and it wouldn’t make much of a difference except for one extra plane.
f89B flew in 1948; whereas the Horton 229 never flew in combat and so if we are talking about a plane that shouldnt be in the game, I vote to kick the Ho out.!
No it’s not, it is based on BRs. Rank does not matter is killing someone 1-2 BR ranks higher. Skill matters is 2-5 ranks higher and God mode is killing some whose vehicle is at least 5 BR brackets higher. Ex a P-26 killing a Me-262 would get god mode
The Problem is its America that nation is just the worst to play the players skill level is very low its similar to the German nation players and I'm at the point where America i would say is worse to play these days. The Meteor isn't trash the thing does great its still a great plane to play it out turns many enemy planes and it might not be the fastest but its still fast.
yeah ... well i would continue watching but the nonsensical manical laughter was just too much ... ok pull it back tone it down kid ... and maybe more people would stick around ... would really keep that laugh under raps kid .... NGL !! its not really anything funny to have to listen to when your the only person laughing in the video ffs
This thing is so broken... why it's at 7.0 I honestly couldn't tell you...
It was 7.7 a few updates ago
07:02 My guy we covered this in the Chaika video. Setting convergence doesn't affected nose mounted guns.....
@@ashman8891it does have an effect with Vertical Targeting
But fi they fix the early jets/anything, it doesn't incentivize players to pay up!
Basically, the su11 claps it, and the control lock up at high speed causes a lot of issues when facing jets that can fly as fast as it.
Wait till bro finds out about F-89D with the memerockets
They dont know yet 🤫 arcade battles
Or the one at 5.7
@@notfinn1583the P59A?
God the F89D was so incredibly OP with the proximity fuse rockets...
The thrust was also waaaay to OP for its opposition
The F-89B isn't much better.. it's mental
wooden WW2 jet vs ... afterburner. this game man.
As a person who uses the F89D. It's an incredible aircraft if you play it right. It took me months to learn the aircraft. There have been games where I get 6-8 kills and games where I get killed by props in the first 2 min. At speed it turns like a school bus with no wheels and has such a big air frame it's easy to 1 shot.
the fuck, it's not easy to one shot, it tanks literal bombs detonated near it. You literally have this video as a proof that it's not easy to one shot.
@@kingghidorah8106skill issue
@@MTF-EPSILON-11-5-NULL found the frustrated f89 buyer
@@kingghidorah8106 damn thing hit or miss tbh
Coping because you fed the snail….
you're about 2 years past it's in-game prime, the B used to have a higher fire rate, and could pen almost every vehicle from the roof (save for the MAUS). It's engines were also more powerful. On top of that, for a long time, the outer wingtip fuel tanks would make it so the plane couldn't lose it's wings, you could literally be hit with a missile and the wings were fine. It's since been nerfed into a shell of what it once was. Slower firerate, worse pen on the guns, worse engine performance. when it was good, it was at BR 7.7, and it was the king. Nowadays, it's still ok, but nothing compared to what it once was. the reason it sits so low now is that nobody really uses it much anymore, so the people who do use it usually are noobs to it, and as such, drag the stats further down.
Same goes for the d
On Xbox it’s a premium plane at 6.7 and absolutely dominates everything it’s put against except the rare occasion you get up tiered
More like its op now but it used to be even more op
Just once I want to see a pilot look at a crewmember and catch him doing something hilariously inappropriate.
Animation easter egg 😂
Tilting yo Joystick
Funny thing about the F-89, its first flight was 1948.
The sk60 first flight was in the 1960
Cool
Hey webe , just so you know that IAS(indicated air speed) meabs that what the instruments in the aircraft shows you(speed). And the instruments in the aircraft uses air that is flowing by the aircraft. So speed is different. The speed means how fast you are relatively to the ground . So now lets join them . We know that when we go higher into the sky the air gets thinner and thinner so the air which is flowing by the aircraft , gets reduced as the aircraft is climbing higher. So the IAS goes down but actually your real speed goes higher, only if your aircraft can pull it self in that climb. ❤❤
4:55 Ahem………… Ho's mad!
I'll see myself out 😂
father material right here ladies----->
12:21 “speed” in wack thunder is ground speed (actual speed), ias is airspeed. If you are going fast enough in a climb that will happen because of lower air pressure at higher altitude
The f89 is op until you realize your aim camera is above the rudder which means you can't lead for shit if your zoom isn't binded to your scroll wheel.
The F89D was king when it was first introduced with its lead indicator for the rockets. Now it only gets kills head on.
WeBe: *complains about high speed compression*
also WeBe: *Continues applying full afterburner above 400 mph*
I am speed
Update: the nerfed the rockets on the other version and this plane compresses horribly and flies like a bus. It takes a great pilot to make this a serviceable jet. If you hit however this jet annihilates and once you get the hang of it it is potent
I love the little afterburners! Its a shame you have to buy the B to be able to buy the D version with the meme rockets😢 Great vid as always man keep up the good work!
I think I have both, I'm not sure!
The two speeds are indicated and true. Your indicated AirSpeed goes down at higher altitude because the air density is lower as you climb higher. Because it's less dense you have less drag and have to go faster to maintain a higher indicated which makes your true AirSpeed faster. And you consume less fuel.
I hate this thing, especially going against SU-11s and all those biased Russian jets.
complains about russian bias using the most overpowered jet in the game for its br
@@gasparferrandisromero1075 the su-11 is definitely better than this bus of a plane
@@luka2625 yet it's much slower, has half the ammo and guns, and it's by far harder to aim since it's guns are both slow and imprecise, not turning is not a problem with the specs of the 89 bozo
Play the premium P-36 in the American tech tree. You get a 50 cal can turn with the biplanes and severely out climb them too. Plus at Br 1.3 the opponents know nothing about dogfighting. Straight up easy mode.
This and the other premium F89 people on your team would just TK you right off the bat on the air field that's how much people use to HATE this jet when it first came out. Mostly the F89D though and you don't see to many people playing the D version really anymore cuz most end up blowing up teammates with the rockets instead of the enemy.
15:45 rare moment where 6.0 had a downtier and so did you
The German Sea Hawk sits at 8.0 or 8.3 I believe because it has access to AIM-9B.
8.0
People either say it’s the most broken thing or absolute garbage. I’m in the camp of calling it garbage. I just can’t mesh with it. I’d take a 262 for the maneuverability all day long
This thing out turns the 262 no problem.
@@WeBeStronk it’s turn rate may be fine, but I absolutely struggle with getting it’s nose on target. I mean I’m not a bad player. Like I pretty often get 4-6 kill games in the U1, but when I try flying my F-89 (both variants) I just can’t set shots up. Maybe it is just a style/skill issue, but the F-89 is hot garbage in my hands.
Edit: I really like the idea of the jet and want to do well. I’ve watched so many videos to try to see what I’m missing. I will figure it out one day
@@BigGreyDonut The camera is at a weird angle in the F-89 because of how big it is, might be throwing you off
@@WeBeStronk I’ll just have to keep trying at it. It’s just funny because I can take jets that I know are supposed to be worse and do perfectly fine or great and then this “thing” vexes me🥲
@@WeBeStronk I had to stop watching to handle something, but 8:40 is what I constantly feel. I guess I just need to watch my over speeding.
Edit: Same thing at 10:50
This dudes first game is the person I run into when I use a 500 booster
I honestly never even knew the f89 had radar lock capabilities
I honestly don't think it's meant to...
WeBe, I've heard you pronounce Kuban wrong, I'm not trying to critique you or anything simply want to point out that it is supposed to be pronounced Cooban` (Coo-Cookie, ba-battle, n` - like new but without the you sound). Hope to see more content from you, you are one of the most favorite content creators I watch.
So I was searching for it on the comments, but nobody said it first so I looked it up on Wikipedia:
"First flight: 16th August of 1948"
Holy sh*t is a pre-korean war jet with afterburner. Also it made its maiden flight only 8 months after the MiG-15 and 3 months after the F3D. So I guess if BRs were time-based it is on the correct BR.
Me 262 maiden flight was in 1942, so It should be at 4.3 br then by your logic?
Nah, I was following what is said in the video that early jets should be differentiated by pre/pos Korea war jets
@@Diegomehhh jets should be differentiated by performance, not by anything else. Otherwise you get stuff like Me 163 at 7.0 because “it’s a WW2 thing” that will absolutely annihilate anything in the lobby. Time of introduction should never be prioritised over the performance of a vehicle In my opinion.
Bruh, I'm not defending it
the definition of 'it's not that deep bro' 😂
This plane has a lot of firepower, but man is it slow to roll
Mig-15 says hi
There was a shell in one of the belts with zero fragmentation and no dmg at all, dont remember by heart what was it
0:21 and a radar and an afterburner
The only time I can kill this thing in the sk60b is with the manual missiles coz my turn rate doesnt mean shit if they can just extend away.
this plane is actually unplayable if youre opponent knows what he is doing, u cant realy dive with it , it locks HORRIBLY at high speeds beyond 600, so you cant really do a hard turn if your opponent does a 180 and dives away, it does not roll or turn at all...basically if a support fighter at every br tbh. and good luck diving after enemys, 910 kph is rip speed.
Its perfect where it is considering all the shitty models and incomplete plane characteristics the us tech tree gets
F16 and F15 have a word to say about shitty models
Now this plane got a downtier so it’s at 6.7 which means it can go to 6.3 wayyyy easier… I’m gonna love buying this.
I have the F-89B and it DOES NOT even get to 600 without the wings literally rattling off. Very misleading stats as it does not match the specs at all. The safest speed you can fly that bird is under 575 mph. Goes nowhere near 600, much less the 628 its supposed to do. It is fast tho, and at 7.0 it can outrun most within the BR, however it cant turn and it also cannot climb the 9700+ it claims.
Hey GTSSB here! Also known as the F3D at the beginning of the video that shot that 163, sorry bout the kill glad to see you still got it though 🫡
Naughty naughty! It's all good :)
There needs to be a historical year, and what generation jet needs to be taken into account when adding new jets and rating BRs for the jet match matching
Yeah or a hard buffer where certain era's can't fight eachother
Its a design summilar to f84 and f80 but csme out around the time of mig 15s just like if the cl13b being best dobsonic but from 1960s
100% sure it can be 7.7 and chill in the br they lowered it to sell it more with the other variant.
I kinda wonder why they made the F-89B a premium?
I would not be too confused if it was only the F89D but the F89B? Like Gajin could just add it to the us tech tree and it wouldn’t make much of a difference except for one extra plane.
It would be spammed
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You raged. Was cute.
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Thank you 👍
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@@WeBeStronk Thanks!
How do you turn your radar on in this thing I can’t figure it out
Ever heard of the P59?
Yes, I did a video on it - but the P59 doesn't keep it's energy like this does :)
@@WeBeStronk fair point. I don’t have either of them, only seen it from the receiving end so pilot skill was probably a big factor in my experiences
please don’t get my main plane grounded
😂
Your videos are so amazing ❤
Glad you like them!
5:42 gru started laughing
I was in 4.3 and saw the me..... All It did the entire match was fly away from mostly everyone because they used 50mm
The Narwhal has been suggested for me to play!
Op until i show up in the BI. Then all the f89 can do is run(:
It bleeds all its speed in a single turn so most players are absolute ass at flying it
I would manage to lose even in that plane
Nose mounted guns have convergence?
Only when vertical targeting is selected
@@WeBeStronk word ty for the knowledge 🙏
The only thing thats bad about this plane is the guns in my opinion, most of the time ill hit them with bursts and ill only get "hit"
Could be ping or packet loss causing that in fairness!
ohohoh my man you would have SOOOOooo much fun with the soviet 23mm or 37mms
@@rav3727 funny enough I just started to play the yak 15p today and I've been having a blast with it other than the mediocre speed
Wait till he finds out about the BI....
I played it when it first came out but haven't since 😅
daily reminded this is a lower BR than the meteor MK 3
That's mental
A constant 30 to 60 ping all game?! i bet with proper internet connection more of your shots would be landing onn target
You should play the f89d!
Another W video as per usual 😂
W comment!
what sound mod do you have?
ETSM :)
@@WeBeStronktysm
ty ive not flown jets so this seems like a pretty good in
What's annoying is when playing as the me 262 it's pretty much game over going against the f-89d
07:02 My guy we covered this in the Chaika video. Setting convergence doesn't affected nose mounted guns.....
it does affect vertical targeting, and he has that on
HAH- NO.
F-104A Starfighter in a full downtier is op :)
Bro forgot about P-59A jet fighter at 5.7🤣
I didn't, I did a video on that a month or so back, but they're two very different aircraft
f89B flew in 1948; whereas the Horton 229 never flew in combat and so if we are talking about a plane that shouldnt be in the game, I vote to kick the Ho out.!
Lol balance, gaijin couldn't balance them selves out of a wet paper bag.
Damn cool looking plane.
I was actually just thinking about getting this plane
Some people love it, some hate it!
Who's gonna tell him about the BI
I can tell ya why its 7.0, its handling is so bad. However if you do hit and run nothing can catch ya at that br
before the update i was playing it and it was at 6.7 pretty sure lol
was going up against props
P59a on steroids
P59a can turn like a zero tho
very comman for isa to be brocken
10:52, couldnt u just pulled out of the spin
nope
@@WeBeStronk y tho
@@securoserv1480his damaged wing had no wing control
GRB CAS......... thats why its 7.0
VERY HONOREBRUH
You must remain honourable...
im like 200-80 in that thing 😂 and has highest base SL booster
... _cough_
P-59 Ariacomet
_cough_
Yeah I've played that on the channel too, but as much as that's a jet, it loses it's energy like a brick.
@@WeBeStronk So was the F-4 phantom, but they said f*ck it, give it more horsepower. Give a brick enough power and it melts its own paint
Rank does not matter is an achievement you get when you kill a player with a significantly lower or higher player level, not vehicle br range
No it’s not, it is based on BRs. Rank does not matter is killing someone 1-2 BR ranks higher. Skill matters is 2-5 ranks higher and God mode is killing some whose vehicle is at least 5 BR brackets higher. Ex a P-26 killing a Me-262 would get god mode
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The Problem is its America that nation is just the worst to play the players skill level is very low its similar to the German nation players and I'm at the point where America i would say is worse to play these days.
The Meteor isn't trash the thing does great its still a great plane to play it out turns many enemy planes and it might not be the fastest but its still fast.
Nice
Thanks
had to mute
How many subscribers do I have now
its good but not op
Basically a direct adversary to the 7.7 LA-200 that got dragged down to 7.0...
tells alot about the skillset of US air mains
Huh I didn't know about the LA-200!
Shhhhhhhh
Literally one of the worst planes in the game but keep yapping
Also 12:18 go educate yourself
Skill issue.
yeah ... well i would continue watching but the nonsensical manical laughter was just too much ... ok pull it back tone it down kid ... and maybe more people would stick around ... would really keep that laugh under raps kid .... NGL !! its not really anything funny to have to listen to when your the only person laughing in the video ffs
My video analytics say otherwise
what sound mod do you use?
ETSM :)