What Is Predestination??

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[@redeemedzoomer6053]

Great video bro, you articulated this 200% better than any of Ligonier's videos on this

[@theisaiahlong]

Thanks man! I appreciate that!

[@CheckmateArians]

Real

[@CreationsLab]

Always great to see these videos, this one was awesome!

[@theisaiahlong]

Thanks dude!

[@matthewcheevers4861]

@@theisaiahlongDo you ever have livestreams and/or have callers?

[@Nirvanafanboy1991]

Great video I really liked hearing what you had to say as always!

[@theisaiahlong]

Thanks dude!

[@Nirvanafanboy1991]

@@theisaiahlong You are very welcome, dude!

[@catfinity8799]

Yeah, Arminianism can technically explain some of those passages, but then they really don't make any sense. If we chose to believe in God and hold fast to him, how does it mean anything to say that we were chosen and elected by God? If we are the choosers, we can't be the ones chosen.

[@theisaiahlong]

Yes.

[@timothycambron]

Quite an informative video

[@SouICoffin]

Great video, subscribed from zoomers channel. Only had left audio on headphones, sounded fine out of phone though.

[@ethanmcculloch5814]

Brother I think you know very well that the difference between superlapsarianism and infralapsarianism is not Jesus being plan A or plan B, but about whether God can judge a man as undeserving of salvation or meriting damnation, before or after considering their sin. Superlapsarianism teaches that God predestines men to damnation before considering their sin. The traditional view of infralapsarianism teaches that God elects men to salvation, before consideration of good works, but after considering their sin, and also predestines others to reprobation (damnation) after the consideration of their sin, i.e. they are already guilty. I do not accept superlapsarianism because I do not believe that God could damn people before considering their offences.

[@theisaiahlong]

@@ethanmcculloch5814 That's just not true sir. That is a straw man. And don't ever, ever infer that I am blatantly lying. That is so dishonest on your part.

[@ethanmcculloch5814]

@@theisaiahlong I'm not saying your dishonest, I am saying that your defense of superlapsarianism is not referencing it's principle critique from the reformed tradition.

[@ethanmcculloch5814]

I'm not trying to start a fight, I'm trying to ask you a legitimate theological question.

[@theisaiahlong]

@@ethanmcculloch5814 You need to work on the way you speak to people then. I told what supra and infra means, I'm not answering any straw mans.

[@ethanmcculloch5814]

Charles Hodge: Systematic theology vol II, Part three Soteriology, chapter 1 the plan of salvation, part 2 Superlapsarianism
First, the supralapsarian scheme. According to this view, God in order to manifest his grace and justice selected from creatable men (i.e., from men to be created) a certain number to be vessels of mercy, and certain others to be vessels of wrath. In the order of thought, election and reprobation precede the purpose to create and to permit the fall. Creation is in order to redemption. God creates some to be saved, and others to be lost.
My question is, how can God judge somebody justly for damnation before the consideration of the fall?