Great video again Scout, always something to learn, plus a project to make! Thank you for the kind words and plug for my channel. Once again I am overwhelmed by the kindness of the UA-cam family. Thanks
you all prolly dont give a damn but does any of you know of a tool to get back into an Instagram account..? I was stupid lost my login password. I would appreciate any assistance you can give me!
I got my Central Machinery drill press at a flea market new-in-box for $25. Works perfectly, see no need to pay $200+ for something the same size just because it's a more prestigious brand.
Scout, When I was in high school I put my mother's Shop Smith in the horizontal position and set it up like a horizontal drill press. I then put a 12 inch fan blade from a household fan in the chuck. With the highest speed it was like a wind tunnel! But the blades kind of flattened from pushing the air at that high speed. Ha. - Kathie
I always loved the old ShopSmith Mark V machines! They were just classic!!!!!!!! That must have been funny!!!!! I guess all the women in your family are handy with tools!!!!!!
There are many things that you just can't beat a drill press for the job. I have 2 bench tops, both from the 1990s. One from Harbor Freight, one from Skil. My floor model Delta I bought back in 96. The 2 bench models I bought for $50 on an auction. I like the Skil a lot. It has a built-in drill bit case in the lid and a good chuck key holder mounted on the case. Now the HF may not seem like much but it is all steel and it isn't to hard to pick up and carry outside. It also delivers a good speed and power to drill steel. Add some bits from Norseman or their slightly lower quality Viking and a bottle of their ultra lube and you will be good to go for a long time. If anyone thinks that the Viking line is not up to quality, drop the thought. I use them. You can buy them at many places online and industrial supply stores. Made in the US. Once you use a good set of drill bits, you question your sanity for not buying them sooner.
You are spot on Philip! So many people are intimidated by the drill press but it's such a simple machine! As you know, you don't need a big model either! I used my Craftsman Bench top for 20+ years and it was great! I don't use the floor model much... I used to bring the HF model up to the scout meetings and let them drill holes in a bunch of scrap wood I had! They loved it! You are also right about good bits and lube... As long as your bits are cool and not stressed they will last and last!!!! Thanks Philip!!!!!!
Several points for drill presses: On any variable Reeves drive machine tool, never adjust the speed without the motor running. If the motor is stopped an the speed adjusting lever is moved (and if you try to move it, it will only go one way) the belt will go all the way to the bottom of the sheave (where it would normally not go when running correctly) and get stuck there running on the I.D. of the belt and not on the sides of the belt where it's supposed to be. Then, like on the Delta drill press, the mechanism is stuck and the belt possibly ruined. If you ever service a Reeves drive, be very careful taking it apart and reassembling it. There is a powerful spring used to force the sheaves together on the shaft that isn't connected to the speed control lever. With a 1-2 hp drive like on a Bridgeport mill variable speed this spring could hurt you. Secondly, on a bench drill press notice the two holes on the base? That's so you can bolt it to the workbench. Use them! Then the press won't wiggle around when you change speeds or tip over when you clamp large unbalanced work to the table. Thirdly, a handy tip for bench drill presses is to get an automobile muffler clamp the will fit around the post of the drill press. Replace one of the clamp fixing nuts with a wing nut. Install the clamp below the table and snug up the wing nut. Now when you loosen the table to post clamping lever, the table won't fall and you can swing the table out of the way while using a wire brush, etc. Forthly, when buying a bargain basement bench drill press, be sure to carefully check the quill ( the cylinder that carries the drill press chuck and drive shaft) for a close fit in the housing. If you can detect ANY side to side wiggle, look for another press. A sloppy fit will make drilling any holes less than 1/16" dia. (1.5mm) a pain. This fault can be fixed, but for the time and effort involved it would be much easier just to buy a better drill press. Lastly and most importantly, a drill press is just about the most dangerous machine tool in the shop. It can cut you with spinning razor sharp chips, throw work off the table at you, or smash you hand when it hangs and whips the work around because you didn't bother to clamp the work to the table. And possibly the worst is to not have your hair or beard well tied up out of the way. Just one wisp of hair caught by a spinning chip or dirll and a drill press can scalp you to the bone before you can get it stopped. Cheers from NC/USA
All great tips! I haven't shopped for a drill press in a while, years back most of them were pretty good but I have seen some really cheaply made ones that just look cheesy. =)
@@ScoutCrafter I also have one of the early Central Machinery drill presses like yours. The build quality of this Taiwanese made press is noticeably better than the latest bottom end Harbor Freight drill presses. The quality of the latest HF presses is even lower than the mainland Chinese bench presses from 15-20 years ago. I have rebuilt my old "Green" mainland Chinese drill press to make it a precision drill press, but it was a lot of work. I had the quill center ground and sleeved the head of the drill press to fit. I also installed quality thrust ball bearings on the quill and installed an external return spring on the quill for better feel when drilling small holes. Cheers from NC/USA
Hi John- There are some import companies that are using super weak motors lately! I don't know why but they slip them in every once and a while! All from China!
Cool DIY center line marker! The nice thing about a floor standing drill press is that you can fit a cross slide vise on the table and still have plenty of drilling height.
Nice grouping of presses. You definitely are a collector. 😆😆 I love my drill presses. I went a long time without one at home. I ended up with a bench top and a floor model. When I built the perimeter benches in the shop I set the the floor model on a platform between two drawer units that were about 2 1/2 feet apart. Then I made a removable section of benchtop to span between the drawer units. The benchtop fitted tightly around the column and helped support the drill. There was a lot of space on the benchtop for laying out bigger projects. I could slide the press out to drill longer sections. I miss that setup.
Hi Dave! I always feel bad for people who never experience such machines as they seem intimidating to people who never used them! I would bring a small drill press down to the scout meetings and let them fool around on it... I would bring scraps of wood down and let them drill and sand and just have fun! =) Once the mystery is taken out of a tool it becomes your friend!!! =) Thanks Dave!
Once again thank you for the drill press refresher course. Your as bad about collecting drill presses as I am about table saws. I have a shop for wood working, one for automotive and welding soon to have a third for stained glass. Good grief we seem to collect a bunch of stuff. I don't even know where to start sometimes. This time of the year I am busy with the greenhouse and our m gardens. Now instead of glass and woodworking I spend my time fixing the tractors and other gardening equipment.
That center finder tool is awesome. Never seen one before. That was a perfect quick and easy little tip there. While we are on the topic of drill presses, I must say that I started tinkering on my new one a little bit. It is very interesting. The shaft and chuck are held up by way of a cable and pulleys that is attatched to a weight toward the base of the unit. I'm going to slowly tinker with it a little here and there and make improvement when possible. Really torn between repainting it or leaving it original. Leaning toward leaving it original. Drill presses are awesome pieces. I try and buy one whenever I find one used cheap. My Delta had an upgraded G.E. motor and was $25. I also have a 1981 Duracraft. It's a small one but sometimes that's applicable. Paid $30 for it. And of course the antique drill press. The badge says Hill, Clarke, and Company machinery but the seller told me he had a guy research it and that it wasn't made by that company. If that makes any sense. I believe the other badge on it says 3047. I can't find a thing on it anywhere online. But the cost of it was $120, but that included other items. A Columbian 10" carpenter's vise, a J.M King tap and die set with original box, a belt driven bench grinder, and 3 motors. 2 vintage G.E. and a vintage packard. All running. But I'm sure you already know all.of this and probably watched my video. Thanks for the video. I keep saying this but you have the best channel hands down in my opinion.
Hi Jesse! I too have never seen anything like your antique drill press... They are such a great tool to have, I feel bad when I hear that so many people are intimidated by them! They are so simple and such a valuable addition to the shop (as you know) I just hope more people give one a shot. Even the cheap ones are better then none! =) Thanks!!!!
@@ScoutCrafter I only see one rarely. I would give every single one a shot! People have them tucked away, unused in a basement neglected. Hiding out. Lol.
Great instructional video John. You got me beat by one. I have only three drill presses LOL! One is a Shopsmith with the , uh oh, Reeves Drive. It works well with this machine though. I use my floor model Craftsman (with a foot pedal power switch) most though, and I keep the Shopsmith set up for other things. Heading over to Tom's - thanks also for giving us the head's up on good tool channels.
Hi Lee! The ShopSmith has been using that drive system for many years and I think they worked out the kinks... As a kid I went to a Mark V demonstration at Sears and I always wanted one! =) They were pricy back then and I was too frugal! =)
@@ScoutCrafter I still am - I bought mine used LOL! Always available for not much money on Craigslist! Actually sold a couple extra insulators to get it!
Great video! I got a cheap 10” drill press by WEN. I’ve been pleasantly surprised. But I’m glad I didn’t go with the variable speed. My thought being when buying a cheap tool, I want as little moving parts as possible. More parts means more opportunities to break
Nice Video! Just Picked up a Hamilton Press from the 50-60's Its a High speed table top that weighs over 150 lbs. Looks Like it was designed for all day production work. It has an incorrect pulley on the motor, but still a good yard sale buy at $20. Time to 3D print a new pulley.
Wow! Those old Drills were made to last! Wonderful score! The pulleys are available on eBay! You might even want to add a VFD like Joe did from Joe's shop on his Walker Turner!!! Thanks!!!!
Thanks for the explanation of the differences between drill presses. Also the stroke on the cheaper ones is limited, for example if you have a 5 inches between the base and the chuck and want to drill through a 3 inch piece of wood you cannot do it in one go as a 3 three inch drill and 3 inch piece of wood is bigger than the opening, plus you only have a two inch movement on the chuck.
Hi Tony! Yes!!!! I always felt a cheap drill press at first lets you see all the bells and whistles that you want for the next press... Some features are very important and others are not as necessary.. =) Thanks!
I'm kind of the opposite of you I have 3 floor standing drill presses and one bench top. Not counting the Leland-Gifford, which is hydraulically powered by a variable vane pump so I can set the speed from 0 to way too fast. Good tip on the centering tool, that thing is very handy to have. Happy Easter to you and the girlfriend. Thanks for the video!
Hi George! The drill press is such a great tool and I hope this helps people to have enough confidence to try one out... That Leland-Gifford is the cat's pajamas!!!!!!!!!!
It is and the advantage of the hydraulic power supply I can use a splitter valve to also run my 70 ton hydraulic press. You'd have a little trouble getting it in your basement because it's about ten feet tall and ways about a ton. But I can drill with the biggest drill I have and I can't slow it down, just make sure the work is securely bolted down.
'You don't really need a drill press' - says the man who has four of them. Pardon me Scout... one memorable quote. I have 3 myself - one benchtop and 2 (identical ) floor standing units. The 2nd floor standing unit was brand new clearing for $82...so I had to have it...it is unopened still in original packageing due to space shortage. My very first one was same as yours..B&D corded drill and the parrarel bars...still have it.
Hello Michael! The truth is so many of our daily operations can be performed by simple jigs and hand tools but how boring would that be?! I love using my drill press! it really is just fun tool to use. I know you feel the same or you would only have one! LOL Thanks!!!!!!
@@ScoutCrafter I agree. I actually prefer the tool free chuck on my floor standing. Seeing the variable speed on your Delta got me a bit envious..sorry to hear it doesn't work. Have a good day.
You made me believe I need a drillpres. I can't drill a straight hole with a hand drill. Reminded me of the press we had at a steal warehouse I worked at years ago. It was so big we had to use a forklift to move it. The belt was a four inch leather belt. You had to be very careful if something came lose on the table it would mess you up. Have good Easter.
Hi Glen! Don't feel bad, nobody can drill a straight hole! Once you get a drill press you will look for all sorts of reasons to use it! LOL Thanks!!!!!
Very good video. Suggestion, could you explain why and when you would change the speeds on a drill press. Also thanks for pointing out other channels. I found yours from Old Sneelock and thanks to you I found Magdad and Joe’s Shop and most recently, Midwest Tool Reviewm. Love to watch all of them. Thanks
Hi Tony! Usually the drill speeds are changed according to the material drilled. For example when drilling metal you use a slow speed and when using a wire wheel or buffing a faster speed is used! =) Thanks!!!!!
To add to ScoutCrafter, a twist drill is a peculiar tool in that no matter the diameter of the drill the surface speed of the center of the drill is zero. This means that the center of the drill acts like a chisel cutting the material. This is the reason drilling surface speed recommendations are a bit different than if you were turning an O.D. on a lathe. The outside edge of the drill has a cutting surface speed determined by the diameter of the drill, namely: Surface cutting speed = 3.1417 x Drill Diameter x spindle rpm where 3.1417~Pi The value of the possible surface cutting speed depends on several factors. The main ones are material being drilled and the type of drill. As a general rule for mild steel and a high speed twist drill the tables give a value of ~100 surface feet per minute (~30 meters/minute). Remember this is for industrial use where all the drilling variables are controlled. For general shop use a value of 50%/60% of the table speed as a good starting point. If you are doing production work and time is important you work your way up from there to reach the best balance between production rates and tool life. As a general rule, running cutting tools slower only costs you time. This rule doesn't apply to carbide cutters, as they often perform poorly at slow speeds because of their brittleness and the intense heat produced by their cutting action. Carbide cutters are designed so that this heat is carried away by chips. When run too slow this doesn't happen and the heat generated work hardens the material. This work hardening causes the tool cutting edge to break down quickly and results even more heat being generated and rapid tool failure. Cheers from NC/USA
Wow thank you for vid....i learned something new today...i never realized that you can move the motor back n forth with the wing nut to move the belt for rpm...lol I've been using a screw driver to move on different pulleys....so thank you
great video as always one thing u can do if ur drill press is bolted to ur bench on the corner u can swing the top off the side of the bench to do longer parts but only of u have it bolted down
Thanks for sharing! Can't wait to learn about the lathe - your screw and bolt reproductions for your restorations have inspired me to obtain a lathe so I can reproduce the oddball bolt that is occasionally missing in my piano work. What kind of countersink bit are you using in this video? The ones I use have about 8 cutting teeth and never give me a smooth cut like you had there!
I feel your pain! The problem with countersinks is they can really chatter and ruin a project!!! I will do a video very soon on the different types of Countersinks!!!!! Thanks so much!
Already having a drill press I was going to skip the video but I thought hey I may learn something. Went right down into the basement and made one of those center finders.
That is so awesome! It takes a bit of practice but works very well! I have seen carpenters use one made with nails and they were fast!!!! =) Thanks!!!!!!!
Hi Anthony! You are so right... It took me 45 years of hoarding to fill it up and the thought of parting with most of it makes me sad... I want to keep so many things but reality bites! LOL
A few months ago purchased the premium bench top Wen drill press, which incorporates a Reeve’s drive, and my exuberance fell quickly to disgust. The run-out was horrible, and after hours of fussing it could not be improved because of the drive. Back it went!
Awesome video as usual! John if you ever are in the upstate area, Syracuse specifically let me know. I would love to give you a little tour of my tools.
@@ScoutCrafter I buy at least one lot a week. I bought one today before work. Hand tools, sledge hammer, a mountain of varieties of sandpaper, and a little Toro electric snowblower, used twice . 30 bucks total. Video coming in the morn.
Great tips. Can you explain the what that piece of wood is for on the drill press table??? What do you use it for? It is the only this that was not explained. Thanks a bunch. Maybe this could be included in your next vid, so the explaination can be clearer
Uncle Sneelock and a lot of other folks can tell you about Reeves drives in riding mowers too. Glad I don't have one. I like Snapper drives a lot better and I've just got the vise and the drill motors. No room for a press but glad you got all yours!
Hi Lewie! The concept is great but I hear way too many problems with them. I like a SIMPLE drive system that is bulletproof and made to last! =) Thanks so much Lewie!!!
@@ScoutCrafter I've got a pal that has worked on small engine stuff about all his life and he says those things are more trouble that they're worth. The variable is always messing up. I'll stick to my straight drive. Happy Happy, CS!
But of course he collects drill presses too! I have a very old one, like lead paint and cast iron arm. I know almost nothing about it. Should I make a video and maybe you could point me in the right direction to see about its life history and what work it did? ( I suspect aviation rivets, maybe vietnam/korean/wwii??? )
When electric motors are slowed down they lose power, which at slow speed means not enough torque. You want spindle torque to increase as speed decreases to have constant power throughout the speed range of the machine, so you can take a given cut at a given surface speed at any radius of action. People speak of 'constant torque' but what you really want on a machine tool is constant power, which requires a mechanical reduction so that the motor is spinning at rated speed at the lowest spindle speeds (and the fan is also cooling properly). Or use a large enough motor (over-spec it) that has enough power at the lowest speeds. Electric speed controls are always a big compromise in my opinion. Even with a 3-phase motor and VFD speed control the power loss is the same. Some kind of mechanical reduction is always best. Your shop is really organised and clean! I aspire to you.
Aryan- You are so right... The hardest part of VFD is the cooling of the motor at slow speeds. For the majority of home shop use so far this hasn't been an issue. I agree 100% that in a real shop I would want a mechanical speed reduction. VFD's are great for people like me who are only at the drill press for minutes at a time. For large boring and heavy run time nothing beats a double gear reduction! Excellent point as always!!!!!!!
Hello Andrei! Yes! Your exactly right! Those transmissions have been plagued with problems too because of sliding belt and eventually hard shifting. The idea is sound but the mechanism is very hard on belts and parts so eventually it leads to problems... Thanks so much!!!!!!!!
I am doing a video this week . I found a 1/2 inch 3/8 drive socket by Spartan . plus got snap on blue point and always craftman . wont be as big as past videos but always good. About 50 dollars worth of tools .
Hi Blackie! I really think you will enjoy it!!! I made this video after you mentioned you were thinking of buying one! I hope this gave you a few tips. The funny thing is after a short time you are going to wonder how you went so long without one! Woodcraft is a good reputable business! I bought my Nova lathe from them!
The reeves drive needs really good quality components to work properly, soon after I got the Delta I was having problems as the pulley would jam and didn't operate properly. I went online to some forums and found that this was a very common problem with this model. This was also a problem with some of the the ShopSmith models. I have yet to find someone who swears by that system... A good VFD seems to be the way to go now... =)
@@ScoutCrafter I just checked a few places about the Delta version of the Reeves drive in your drill press. Looks like the pot metal castings are a big part of the problem. ua-cam.com/video/eVGykZm9tJI/v-deo.html
@@OldSneelock That's unfortunate. The spring types require both good maintenance and regular use. I've seen a bunch locked up from sitting! Cheapness can get you too though.
Hey Scout! Longtime fan of your channel! I’m a mechanic by trade and I think we are cut from the same cloth as far as our love for tools both old and new, my grandfather used to say some people are born with the ability to see right through rust and dirt, he was also a tool buff (seems hereditary) I started my own channel about a year ago doing small engine repairs and have started tool restoring, check out my channel if you have a chance I’d love some constructive criticism on how to build my audience!
Hello Hester! The funny thing is that certain subjects will only attract hard core viewers that like that particular subject. I saw this guy on youtube who had ONE video on him catching his wife cheating and he had 60K subscribers! ONE VIDEO!!! LOL The more obscure the subject the longer it takes to build a following. You know Donnyboy73? LOL It took him years!!! =D I loved your vintage parts and mower score! Awesome!
Great video again Scout, always something to learn, plus a project to make! Thank you for the kind words and plug for my channel. Once again I am overwhelmed by the kindness of the UA-cam family. Thanks
Hi Todd!!!! I am sure everyone will enjoy your videos as much as I do!!!!!
I sure do! 😆
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you all prolly dont give a damn but does any of you know of a tool to get back into an Instagram account..?
I was stupid lost my login password. I would appreciate any assistance you can give me!
@Khari Sterling Instablaster ;)
I got my Central Machinery drill press at a flea market new-in-box for $25. Works perfectly, see no need to pay $200+ for something the same size just because it's a more prestigious brand.
You do a great job of explaining tools. Do more introduction to tools?
Scout, When I was in high school I put my mother's Shop Smith in the horizontal position and set it up like a horizontal drill press. I then put a 12 inch fan blade from a household fan in the chuck. With the highest speed it was like a wind tunnel! But the blades kind of flattened from pushing the air at that high speed. Ha. - Kathie
I always loved the old ShopSmith Mark V machines! They were just classic!!!!!!!! That must have been funny!!!!! I guess all the women in your family are handy with tools!!!!!!
There are many things that you just can't beat a drill press for the job. I have 2 bench tops, both from the 1990s. One from Harbor Freight, one from Skil. My floor model Delta I bought back in 96. The 2 bench models I bought for $50 on an auction. I like the Skil a lot. It has a built-in drill bit case in the lid and a good chuck key holder mounted on the case. Now the HF may not seem like much but it is all steel and it isn't to hard to pick up and carry outside. It also delivers a good speed and power to drill steel. Add some bits from Norseman or their slightly lower quality Viking and a bottle of their ultra lube and you will be good to go for a long time. If anyone thinks that the Viking line is not up to quality, drop the thought. I use them. You can buy them at many places online and industrial supply stores. Made in the US. Once you use a good set of drill bits, you question your sanity for not buying them sooner.
You are spot on Philip! So many people are intimidated by the drill press but it's such a simple machine! As you know, you don't need a big model either! I used my Craftsman Bench top for 20+ years and it was great! I don't use the floor model much... I used to bring the HF model up to the scout meetings and let them drill holes in a bunch of scrap wood I had! They loved it! You are also right about good bits and lube... As long as your bits are cool and not stressed they will last and last!!!! Thanks Philip!!!!!!
Several points for drill presses:
On any variable Reeves drive machine tool, never adjust the speed without the motor running. If the motor is stopped an the speed adjusting lever is moved (and if you try to move it, it will only go one way) the belt will go all the way to the bottom of the sheave (where it would normally not go when running correctly) and get stuck there running on the I.D. of the belt and not on the sides of the belt where it's supposed to be. Then, like on the Delta drill press, the mechanism is stuck and the belt possibly ruined.
If you ever service a Reeves drive, be very careful taking it apart and reassembling it. There is a powerful spring used to force the sheaves together on the shaft that isn't connected to the speed control lever. With a 1-2 hp drive like on a Bridgeport mill variable speed this spring could hurt you.
Secondly, on a bench drill press notice the two holes on the base? That's so you can bolt it to the workbench. Use them! Then the press won't wiggle around when you change speeds or tip over when you clamp large unbalanced work to the table.
Thirdly, a handy tip for bench drill presses is to get an automobile muffler clamp the will fit around the post of the drill press. Replace one of the clamp fixing nuts with a wing nut. Install the clamp below the table and snug up the wing nut. Now when you loosen the table to post clamping lever, the table won't fall and you can swing the table out of the way while using a wire brush, etc.
Forthly, when buying a bargain basement bench drill press, be sure to carefully check the quill ( the cylinder that carries the drill press chuck and drive shaft) for a close fit in the housing. If you can detect ANY side to side wiggle, look for another press. A sloppy fit will make drilling any holes less than 1/16" dia. (1.5mm) a pain. This fault can be fixed, but for the time and effort involved it would be much easier just to buy a better drill press.
Lastly and most importantly, a drill press is just about the most dangerous machine tool in the shop. It can cut you with spinning razor sharp chips, throw work off the table at you, or smash you hand when it hangs and whips the work around because you didn't bother to clamp the work to the table. And possibly the worst is to not have your hair or beard well tied up out of the way. Just one wisp of hair caught by a spinning chip or dirll and a drill press can scalp you to the bone before you can get it stopped.
Cheers from NC/USA
All great tips! I haven't shopped for a drill press in a while, years back most of them were pretty good but I have seen some really cheaply made ones that just look cheesy. =)
@@ScoutCrafter I also have one of the early Central Machinery drill presses like yours. The build quality of this Taiwanese made press is noticeably better than the latest bottom end Harbor Freight drill presses. The quality of the latest HF presses is even lower than the mainland Chinese bench presses from 15-20 years ago. I have rebuilt my old "Green" mainland Chinese drill press to make it a precision drill press, but it was a lot of work. I had the quill center ground and sleeved the head of the drill press to fit. I also installed quality thrust ball bearings on the quill and installed an external return spring on the quill for better feel when drilling small holes.
Cheers from NC/USA
One thing you didn't mention as a spec is the stroke of the drill press. It can be a pain if your small press can barely make it through a 2x4.
Hi John- There are some import companies that are using super weak motors lately! I don't know why but they slip them in every once and a while! All from China!
Cool DIY center line marker! The nice thing about a floor standing drill press is that you can fit a cross slide vise on the table and still have plenty of drilling height.
Next week I will cover the Mini-Mill... That is another fun tool! LOL
Scoutcrafter, you have inspired me to inbox the drill press that has been unopened since I bought it about 15 years ago. Have a wonderful Easter.
OMG! Tony you are going to love it!!!!!!!!!
Another great video, Scout! You share lots of great information here. Always fun to watch.
Thanks SP!!!!
Nice grouping of presses. You definitely are a collector. 😆😆
I love my drill presses. I went a long time without one at home. I ended up with a bench top and a floor model. When I built the perimeter benches in the shop I set the the floor model on a platform between two drawer units that were about 2 1/2 feet apart. Then I made a removable section of benchtop to span between the drawer units. The benchtop fitted tightly around the column and helped support the drill. There was a lot of space on the benchtop for laying out bigger projects.
I could slide the press out to drill longer sections. I miss that setup.
Hi Dave! I always feel bad for people who never experience such machines as they seem intimidating to people who never used them! I would bring a small drill press down to the scout meetings and let them fool around on it... I would bring scraps of wood down and let them drill and sand and just have fun! =) Once the mystery is taken out of a tool it becomes your friend!!! =) Thanks Dave!
Thanks for the drill press lesson. Very informative. And I am definitely going to make that tool!
Hi Virginia! The tool takes a little practice but it works very well! Thanks!!!!
Once again thank you for the drill press refresher course. Your as bad about collecting drill presses as I am about table saws. I have a shop for wood working, one for automotive and welding soon to have a third for stained glass. Good grief we seem to collect a bunch of stuff. I don't even know where to start sometimes. This time of the year I am busy with the greenhouse and our m gardens. Now instead of glass and woodworking I spend my time fixing the tractors and other gardening equipment.
That center finder tool is awesome. Never seen one before. That was a perfect quick and easy little tip there. While we are on the topic of drill presses, I must say that I started tinkering on my new one a little bit. It is very interesting. The shaft and chuck are held up by way of a cable and pulleys that is attatched to a weight toward the base of the unit. I'm going to slowly tinker with it a little here and there and make improvement when possible. Really torn between repainting it or leaving it original. Leaning toward leaving it original. Drill presses are awesome pieces. I try and buy one whenever I find one used cheap. My Delta had an upgraded G.E. motor and was $25. I also have a 1981 Duracraft. It's a small one but sometimes that's applicable. Paid $30 for it. And of course the antique drill press. The badge says Hill, Clarke, and Company machinery but the seller told me he had a guy research it and that it wasn't made by that company. If that makes any sense. I believe the other badge on it says 3047. I can't find a thing on it anywhere online. But the cost of it was $120, but that included other items. A Columbian 10" carpenter's vise, a J.M King tap and die set with original box, a belt driven bench grinder, and 3 motors. 2 vintage G.E. and a vintage packard. All running. But I'm sure you already know all.of this and probably watched my video. Thanks for the video. I keep saying this but you have the best channel hands down in my opinion.
Hi Jesse! I too have never seen anything like your antique drill press... They are such a great tool to have, I feel bad when I hear that so many people are intimidated by them! They are so simple and such a valuable addition to the shop (as you know) I just hope more people give one a shot. Even the cheap ones are better then none! =) Thanks!!!!
@@ScoutCrafter I only see one rarely. I would give every single one a shot! People have them tucked away, unused in a basement neglected. Hiding out. Lol.
Great instructional video John. You got me beat by one. I have only three drill presses LOL! One is a Shopsmith with the , uh oh, Reeves Drive. It works well with this machine though. I use my floor model Craftsman (with a foot pedal power switch) most though, and I keep the Shopsmith set up for other things. Heading over to Tom's - thanks also for giving us the head's up on good tool channels.
Hi Lee! The ShopSmith has been using that drive system for many years and I think they worked out the kinks... As a kid I went to a Mark V demonstration at Sears and I always wanted one! =) They were pricy back then and I was too frugal! =)
@@ScoutCrafter I still am - I bought mine used LOL! Always available for not much money on Craigslist! Actually sold a couple extra insulators to get it!
This is great. learned a few things which is always very nice. Enjoy your holiday
Great video! I got a cheap 10” drill press by WEN. I’ve been pleasantly surprised. But I’m glad I didn’t go with the variable speed. My thought being when buying a cheap tool, I want as little moving parts as possible. More parts means more opportunities to break
Brad you are so right! The K.I.S.S. rule! I am a huge proponent of simplicity! Never lets you down! Thanks!!
Wow I learned one morething today thank you Scout for showing the centre finder
Another great video! Thank for sharing witht us!
Another great video. Can't wait for the milling machine tutorial.
Nice Video! Just Picked up a Hamilton Press from the 50-60's Its a High speed table top that weighs over 150 lbs. Looks Like it was designed for all day production work. It has an incorrect pulley on the motor, but still a good yard sale buy at $20. Time to 3D print a new pulley.
Wow! Those old Drills were made to last! Wonderful score! The pulleys are available on eBay! You might even want to add a VFD like Joe did from Joe's shop on his Walker Turner!!! Thanks!!!!
Thanks for the tutorial. A drill press is on my list of tools to buy.
Brian! You are going to love it!!!!!
Thanks for the information on the drill press. I learned a lot . Thanks for sharing this.
Glad you enjoyed it John!!!!
Thanks for the explanation of the differences between drill presses. Also the stroke on the cheaper ones is limited, for example if you have a 5 inches between the base and the chuck and want to drill through a 3 inch piece of wood you cannot do it in one go as a 3 three inch drill and 3 inch piece of wood is bigger than the opening, plus you only have a two inch movement on the chuck.
Hi Tony! Yes!!!! I always felt a cheap drill press at first lets you see all the bells and whistles that you want for the next press... Some features are very important and others are not as necessary.. =) Thanks!
A great Tutorial on drill presses! I always look forward to these videos!! HAPPY EASTER!
Thanks Bill!!!!!!
I'm kind of the opposite of you I have 3 floor standing drill presses and one bench top. Not counting the Leland-Gifford, which is hydraulically powered by a variable vane pump so I can set the speed from 0 to way too fast. Good tip on the centering tool, that thing is very handy to have. Happy Easter to you and the girlfriend. Thanks for the video!
Hi George! The drill press is such a great tool and I hope this helps people to have enough confidence to try one out... That Leland-Gifford is the cat's pajamas!!!!!!!!!!
It is and the advantage of the hydraulic power supply I can use a splitter valve to also run my 70 ton hydraulic press. You'd have a little trouble getting it in your basement because it's about ten feet tall and ways about a ton. But I can drill with the biggest drill I have and I can't slow it down, just make sure the work is securely bolted down.
Excellent video as always
'You don't really need a drill press' - says the man who has four of them. Pardon me Scout... one memorable quote. I have 3 myself - one benchtop and 2 (identical ) floor standing units. The 2nd floor standing unit was brand new clearing for $82...so I had to have it...it is unopened still in original packageing due to space shortage. My very first one was same as yours..B&D corded drill and the parrarel bars...still have it.
Hello Michael! The truth is so many of our daily operations can be performed by simple jigs and hand tools but how boring would that be?! I love using my drill press! it really is just fun tool to use. I know you feel the same or you would only have one! LOL Thanks!!!!!!
@@ScoutCrafter I agree. I actually prefer the tool free chuck on my floor standing. Seeing the variable speed on your Delta got me a bit envious..sorry to hear it doesn't work. Have a good day.
Another great lesson. Thanks for my next project. I will subscribe to the CountryPeddler. Have a great Easter.
Happy Easter Chris! Thanks!!!
Very interesting. Love the pointer. Haha
Enjoyed this overview! Very helpful for those who are just getting started. Thank you
Outstanding! So glad you enjoyed it!!!!! Thanks!!!!!
You made me believe I need a drillpres. I can't drill a straight hole with a hand drill. Reminded me of the press we had at a steal warehouse I worked at years ago. It was so big we had to use a forklift to move it. The belt was a four inch leather belt. You had to be very careful if something came lose on the table it would mess you up. Have good Easter.
Hi Glen! Don't feel bad, nobody can drill a straight hole! Once you get a drill press you will look for all sorts of reasons to use it! LOL Thanks!!!!!
Very good video. Suggestion, could you explain why and when you would change the speeds on a drill press. Also thanks for pointing out other channels. I found yours from Old Sneelock and thanks to you I found Magdad and Joe’s Shop and most recently, Midwest Tool Reviewm. Love to watch all of them. Thanks
Hi Tony! Usually the drill speeds are changed according to the material drilled. For example when drilling metal you use a slow speed and when using a wire wheel or buffing a faster speed is used! =) Thanks!!!!!
To add to ScoutCrafter, a twist drill is a peculiar tool in that no matter the diameter of the drill the surface speed of the center of the drill is zero. This means that the center of the drill acts like a chisel cutting the material. This is the reason drilling surface speed recommendations are a bit different than if you were turning an O.D. on a lathe. The outside edge of the drill has a cutting surface speed determined by the diameter of the drill, namely: Surface cutting speed = 3.1417 x Drill Diameter x spindle rpm where 3.1417~Pi
The value of the possible surface cutting speed depends on several factors. The main ones are material being drilled and the type of drill. As a general rule for mild steel and a high speed twist drill the tables give a value of ~100 surface feet per minute (~30 meters/minute). Remember this is for industrial use where all the drilling variables are controlled. For general shop use a value of 50%/60% of the table speed as a good starting point. If you are doing production work and time is important you work your way up from there to reach the best balance between production rates and tool life.
As a general rule, running cutting tools slower only costs you time. This rule doesn't apply to carbide cutters, as they often perform poorly at slow speeds because of their brittleness and the intense heat produced by their cutting action. Carbide cutters are designed so that this heat is carried away by chips. When run too slow this doesn't happen and the heat generated work hardens the material. This work hardening causes the tool cutting edge to break down quickly and results even more heat being generated and rapid tool failure.
Cheers from NC/USA
@@aceroadholder2185 Good explanation of speeds for drilling.
Thank you for the explanation
Wow thank you for vid....i learned something new today...i never realized that you can move the motor back n forth with the wing nut to move the belt for rpm...lol I've been using a screw driver to move on different pulleys....so thank you
I am so glad that helped out! Even with the tip, belt changing is still a drag! LOL We all tend to live with the speed it's on! =) Thanks!!!!!!
great video as always one thing u can do if ur drill press is bolted to ur bench on the corner u can swing the top off the side of the bench to do longer parts
but only of u have it bolted down
Hi Danoh! That is an AWESOME tip!!!!!! Thanks!!!
Thanks for sharing! Can't wait to learn about the lathe - your screw and bolt reproductions for your restorations have inspired me to obtain a lathe so I can reproduce the oddball bolt that is occasionally missing in my piano work.
What kind of countersink bit are you using in this video? The ones I use have about 8 cutting teeth and never give me a smooth cut like you had there!
I feel your pain! The problem with countersinks is they can really chatter and ruin a project!!! I will do a video very soon on the different types of Countersinks!!!!! Thanks so much!
Great video. Your videos are always so very informative. Thanks 👍👍 Happy Easter!
Happy Easter Frank!!!!!
I have the same Central Machinery drill press. I glued ninjas to the top for better performance.
Ninjas? Asian martial artists? What kind of sorcery is this?
I'm not entirely sure to be honest.
Learn something new every time center finder brilliant 😄
Hi Ben, It takes a little practice but a nifty little tool!!!!!
Already having a drill press I was going to skip the video but I thought hey I may learn something. Went right down into the basement and made one of those center finders.
That is so awesome! It takes a bit of practice but works very well! I have seen carpenters use one made with nails and they were fast!!!! =) Thanks!!!!!!!
Great video Scout!
Another great video in the can. I can only hope that you never decide to move your shop out of your basement - what a job that would be.
Hi Anthony! You are so right... It took me 45 years of hoarding to fill it up and the thought of parting with most of it makes me sad... I want to keep so many things but reality bites! LOL
Super video ScoutCrafter. We should all have a drill press. Nice little centre finder.
Vaughn
You are so right Vaughn! Thanks!!!!
I dream about keith fenner's Sibley drill press..great stuff. Cheers
Hi Joe! We all have a little bit of DP envy! LOL
A few months ago purchased the premium bench top Wen drill press, which incorporates a Reeve’s drive, and my exuberance fell quickly to disgust. The run-out was horrible, and after hours of fussing it could not be improved because of the drive. Back it went!
John, this is a very Good thorough instructive tool video. You are Good. You must be a teacher on your day job. Cheers !
Hi Ron! Thanks very much!
Awesome video as usual! John if you ever are in the upstate area, Syracuse specifically let me know. I would love to give you a little tour of my tools.
Jesse! Will do! Over a short time you have built up quite an impressive collection!!!!!!!
@@ScoutCrafter oh man. And I haven't showed even half of it yet. It's everywhere. Eventually I will get videos of it all.
@@ScoutCrafter I buy at least one lot a week. I bought one today before work. Hand tools, sledge hammer, a mountain of varieties of sandpaper, and a little Toro electric snowblower, used twice . 30 bucks total. Video coming in the morn.
Oh wow this was great scout I learned alot in this video. Have a great weekend and happy Easter scout!!!
Happy Easter LV!!!!!!
@@ScoutCrafter Thanks scout :D
I have a Delta wood lathe with a Reeves Drive. Not going to say anything more or it will break next time I use it. 😎
LOL- Dave, at first I thought it was just mine so I went on forums and found that this was a very common problem. With many machines! =)
I saw the keyless chuck,thought I heard you say you didn't like it
It's ok on a cordless drill but I always prefer a keyed chuck... Now I never had an Albrecht chuck, I hear they are amazing!!!!!!
Great stuff 👍😎 🤠
Happy Easter to you and your family 🤠
Hi Jim! Always loved Easter, now even more as an adult. Hope you enjoy it! Thanks!!!!!
@@ScoutCrafter / Thank you and you're welcome, Sir 🤠
Good one!
Great tips. Can you explain the what that piece of wood is for on the drill press table??? What do you use it for? It is the only this that was not explained. Thanks a bunch. Maybe this could be included in your next vid, so the explaination can be clearer
Hi Steven- I will do! Thanks!!!!!!!
Uncle Sneelock and a lot of other folks can tell you about Reeves drives in riding mowers too. Glad I don't have one. I like Snapper drives a lot better and I've just got the vise and the drill motors. No room for a press but glad you got all yours!
Hi Lewie! The concept is great but I hear way too many problems with them. I like a SIMPLE drive system that is bulletproof and made to last! =) Thanks so much Lewie!!!
@@ScoutCrafter I've got a pal that has worked on small engine stuff about all his life and he says those things are more trouble that they're worth. The variable is always messing up. I'll stick to my straight drive. Happy Happy, CS!
Have a great Easter buddy!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks Alan! I always liked this holiday, except getting dressed up as a kid! My one suit was always tight! LOL
thanks scout happy easter ... †
Happy Easter RK!
Great video, very informative 👍
Thanks 36C!
But of course he collects drill presses too! I have a very old one, like lead paint and cast iron arm. I know almost nothing about it. Should I make a video and maybe you could point me in the right direction to see about its life history and what work it did? ( I suspect aviation rivets, maybe vietnam/korean/wwii??? )
When electric motors are slowed down they lose power, which at slow speed means not enough torque. You want spindle torque to increase as speed decreases to have constant power throughout the speed range of the machine, so you can take a given cut at a given surface speed at any radius of action. People speak of 'constant torque' but what you really want on a machine tool is constant power, which requires a mechanical reduction so that the motor is spinning at rated speed at the lowest spindle speeds (and the fan is also cooling properly). Or use a large enough motor (over-spec it) that has enough power at the lowest speeds. Electric speed controls are always a big compromise in my opinion. Even with a 3-phase motor and VFD speed control the power loss is the same. Some kind of mechanical reduction is always best. Your shop is really organised and clean! I aspire to you.
Aryan- You are so right... The hardest part of VFD is the cooling of the motor at slow speeds. For the majority of home shop use so far this hasn't been an issue. I agree 100% that in a real shop I would want a mechanical speed reduction. VFD's are great for people like me who are only at the drill press for minutes at a time. For large boring and heavy run time nothing beats a double gear reduction! Excellent point as always!!!!!!!
I love my Delta. I also have my key wired on😁
Such a simple upgrade but super useful!!!!!!
My key is on a chain dog collar. Add a washer to the key to keep from pinching your fingers in the chuck.
GOOD VIDEO
10:14 That's basically the CVT transmission found in some cars :)
Hello Andrei! Yes! Your exactly right! Those transmissions have been plagued with problems too because of sliding belt and eventually hard shifting. The idea is sound but the mechanism is very hard on belts and parts so eventually it leads to problems... Thanks so much!!!!!!!!
Good luck moving all of that equipment.are u gonna hire help or do it all yourself ? You have great stuff
I am doing a video this week . I found a 1/2 inch 3/8 drive socket by Spartan . plus got snap on blue point and always craftman . wont be as big as past videos but always good. About 50 dollars worth of tools .
Ok kid am suscribed to his channel thanks for the info.
I am dreading the move!!!! LOL
Have a Happy Easter my friend
Happy Easter PW!!!!!!!!!!!
Great discussion on drill presses!! I don't know how I got by without one all these years! Have a Blessed Easter ScoutCrafter!!
Hi Steve!!!! A nice old Walker-Turner maybe! =) Thanks Steve you too!!!
That's exactly what I have now. A table top 15" WT!!! I love it!!
Had to pause and say how much I love that little finger 😆 also engles rules
I wish I would have had you for a wood shop teacher in school ☺
I wish I would have gone to a trade school... We didn't have many here. Thanks Glenn!
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Professor scout scrasfty 😁
Amazing ...you got 4-5 drill press...don't have one...gonna buy bench model made by JET...WOODCRAFT...MY FIRST...$$$$
Hi Blackie! I really think you will enjoy it!!! I made this video after you mentioned you were thinking of buying one! I hope this gave you a few tips. The funny thing is after a short time you are going to wonder how you went so long without one! Woodcraft is a good reputable business! I bought my Nova lathe from them!
What's wrong with the variable speed on the delta? Does it slip back to slow speed?
The reeves drive needs really good quality components to work properly, soon after I got the Delta I was having problems as the pulley would jam and didn't operate properly. I went online to some forums and found that this was a very common problem with this model. This was also a problem with some of the the ShopSmith models. I have yet to find someone who swears by that system... A good VFD seems to be the way to go now... =)
@@ScoutCrafter I like Reeve's drives because they keep the power and torque. Our lathe has one, it works fine.
Belt dressing needed ?????
@@ScoutCrafter I just checked a few places about the Delta version of the Reeves drive in your drill press. Looks like the pot metal castings are a big part of the problem. ua-cam.com/video/eVGykZm9tJI/v-deo.html
@@OldSneelock That's unfortunate. The spring types require both good maintenance and regular use. I've seen a bunch locked up from sitting! Cheapness can get you too though.
What no hookdrill?
I never even heard of that! I had to look it up!!!! =D
BTW, Excellent video! +1'd and sub'd.
..only 4 ? you must be slipping..lol.. good info..
Actually I have another one upstairs... LOL
@@ScoutCrafter ..LMAO
Was this the subliminal female version of tool talk, where size matters? =)
Hey Scout! Longtime fan of your channel! I’m a mechanic by trade and I think we are cut from the same cloth as far as our love for tools both old and new, my grandfather used to say some people are born with the ability to see right through rust and dirt, he was also a tool buff (seems hereditary) I started my own channel about a year ago doing small engine repairs and have started tool restoring, check out my channel if you have a chance I’d love some constructive criticism on how to build my audience!
Hello Hester! The funny thing is that certain subjects will only attract hard core viewers that like that particular subject. I saw this guy on youtube who had ONE video on him catching his wife cheating and he had 60K subscribers! ONE VIDEO!!! LOL The more obscure the subject the longer it takes to build a following. You know Donnyboy73? LOL It took him years!!! =D I loved your vintage parts and mower score! Awesome!