Good question, not sure it will as 240 charges at 4x the speed of 110 and thus takes far less charge time. So 2x the voltage for 1/4 the time. Seems like 240V should be cheaper, or at least the same, unless utility companies charge prohibitively more for using 240V. You pose a great question, I should test this.
if you only charge your tesla at home, upgrading its charger will have no impact on the bill because at the end of the day the car will take the same amount of energy from from your wall- just in less time with a 240 v outlet
Hi @Steve White I sure did, took delivery of my Model 3 SR+ about 2 weeks ago and love it! I've got a few videos coming that talk about the order process, waiting time and the all important delivery experience (and what flaws the car had when it was delivered). So stay tuned for that, but bottom line this car is amazing!
Is it possible to use a nema 14-50 adapter for home charging and disconnect just the main unit with 110v adapter for travel purposes? Of course I understand other public charging places are available, but just wanted to have a worst case back up. So total set up cost is reasonably low, with both 110 and 220 flexibility?
I think I understand your question, and I think the answer is yes. Let's break it down: Your car came with a wall charger, which works on both 120V and 240V. But it came only with the 120V wall adapter. So, if you bought a 14-50 adapter like I did, yes you can attach it to your Tesla wall charger and use that 100% of the time at home. This would leave you with a 120V adapter sitting in your trunk. When you decided to travel you would have to disconnect the main Tesla charging cable from the 14-50 adapter and reattach the 120V adapter and take the connected cables with you. Which would leave you with just a 14-50 adapter plugged into your 240V outlet at home, which of course does nothing - so I'd remove it from the wall altogether. If you have a 240V wall outlet readily available at home, the cost of 120V and 240V home charging is about $50, just the cost of the 14-50 adapter. It's a great option and works well. In reality, if you take your 120V charger with you on the road, the odds of you finding a 120V outlet to plug into where the 10 foot cord will reach are low. So public chargers are the best option. But I sometimes take my 120V charger with me just for peace of mind. Hope that helps!
I’m sorry, I have no idea about electricity so may I ask, can I buy an 14-30 adapter and plug it with my regular adapter at home to convert it to 240v?
Hi @Boss 429. If I'm understanding your question correctly, yes, you can use your existing Tesla charger (120V standard plug), put a 14-30 adapter on it and plug it into a 14-30 (240V) wall outlet, which is what I did. Is that what you're asking?
Hey marc please reply me in baby steps I am living in ground unit most corner apt next to parking lot spot 1 ( my reserve parking ) bcz i pay My room electric outket to parking spot is 22feet( i am planning to buy tesla in two weeks)this solution will make me finally decide if i will buy tesla model y Please help me how will i charge my tesla I gave you my entire scenario of situation Once again my room window to parking spot is 22feet I am relying more on home charging rather then ev station though i hv 2 electrify only 3.5 miles from my apt i will really appreciate your reply
Simple solution here, buy an EV grade (10 gauge) thick extension cord. 10 foot length cord should be sufficient, as the basic Tesla wall charger is about 20 feet long, so that gives you 30 feet of total length.
@@rajendramodusu5980 Sure, I’ll need to know what voltage your outlet is, and also what shape your outlet is (plug shape, how many holes, etc.). 110V? 220V? 230V?
Electrical guy here. When they design electrical equipment, they install a "self destruct" mechanism that destroys your electrical equipment if you apply the wrong voltage....you might see a "puff of smoke" when this happens. Okay, no self destruct, but, different plugs protect your equipment from getting the wrong voltage and burning up. A lot of un-noticed details go into the design of your electrical system at your house. 120 volt plugs have 3 different sized prongs to ensure proper connections. 2 prong plugs often have one prong larger than the other for proper connection (only plugs in one way). Electric equipment (tools for example) have power (hot) connected to the switch first. The rest of your tool remains at zero, ground, potential (zero volts) until the tool is energized.
Good question! First of all, I have a 30 amp circuit, NEMA-14-30, so it would be impossible to charge at 32 amps. Secondly, my Generation 1 Tesla Charger (several years old) allows a maximum of 24 amps or 80% of the circuit rating, unfortunately.
@Lobo243 By the way, I literally just finished a video testing a 3rd party charger and it allowed me to pull the full 30 amps from my circuit for the 1st time ever. Video should go live soon, you'll be surprised how many miles/hr of charge I got! I certainly was. 😀 Makes me think about installing a NEMA-1450 circuit so I can charge at 40 amps! I want MORE! Haha.
@@marclovescars For electrical fire safety only use 80% if the rated circuit. So if you have a 30amp circuit your max amp charge should only by 24amps. If you exceed 80% for long periods of time, like chargin an EV, the wires get too hot and melts which will cause an electrical fire. It is only ok to use the max rated circuit for short spurts of time, few minutes only.
Voltage is only part of the equation when it comes to charging speed, you also need to know the amperage of the circuit. Your 240v outlet is 30 amps, which is adequate, but most go with 50 if they are installing a new receptacle. The Wallconnector can go up to 60 but as low as 20. Actual charging current is 80% of the circuit size.
Well said and great info, thank you. So if I installed a 50 amp new circuit charging would be faster, but I’m very happy with 25 miles/hr on my existing 240V dryer outlet. Very tempting though.
That is indeed the question. Unfortunately I don’t have the answer - yet. Our electricity bills are generally very high here in CA, and it’s difficult to tease out which charges are coming from the Tesla. I will pay closer attention though and report back. Nighttime only charging should give me a decent view of it. I can tell you though overall our bill is about the same as it always is this time of year, haven’t seen a noticeable spike in days I charge the car. I am skeptical of the hearsay that it only costs $6 or so to charge from empty to full. We shall see!
I charge 99 % of the time at home. I pay 1.4 cents per mile. So 100 miles costs about $1.40 it turns out to be about 1/10 the price of gas. I pay 7 cents a kilowatt here.
Just had my Tesla 240 outlet installed. My model 3 recognizes the 240v, but it will only charge at 6amps. Everytime I change the amperage, it resets to 6amps when I plug it in??? Any suggestions??
Hmm, very strange. Might want to ask the electrician that installed it. The car could be intentionally throttling the power draw to avoid overloading the circuit. Also, might be worth stopping at a supercharger to see if the car charges at high amps (32). That will at least eliminate the car as a possible problem. You should be pulling 24 amps off that 240V outlet.
110 is actually 120 and 220 is actually 240. In Sweden we have 240 everywhere except in the bathroom where a transformer drops the voltage to 110. We also have three phase power at 400V and three times the current. That's what I use to charge my EV (which is not and never will be a Tesla).
Yep, @Michael May nailed it! The terms 220 and 240 are used interchangeably, especially in the U.S. but the outlet referenced actually puts out 240 volts.
@@marclovescars Yup, for some reason we still call it 220V. I'm sure it comes from a time where it would vary and that was the lowest voltage supplied.
@@michaelmay5453 That is correct. The outlet used to put out 220V long ago and was eventually increased to 240V by most electricity providers over time.
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I installed 240v outlet. Material cost $400.
I made 22kW 3 phase AC charger (Europe).
Material cost 300€
@@Mladjasmilic about the same price
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Well explained
I’m scared my bill will jump if I switch to a 240. Currently using a 110
Good question, not sure it will as 240 charges at 4x the speed of 110 and thus takes far less charge time. So 2x the voltage for 1/4 the time. Seems like 240V should be cheaper, or at least the same, unless utility companies charge prohibitively more for using 240V. You pose a great question, I should test this.
if you only charge your tesla at home, upgrading its charger will have no impact on the bill because at the end of the day the car will take the same amount of energy from from your wall- just in less time with a 240 v outlet
Average increase for electric bill is $50/month. Better than me paying $45/week on gas
It’s more efficient to change at 240, so it will be cheaper
@@siwkolis bro my Range Rover is taking me 50 every 4 days I will get a Tesla next year
Hey Marc, I’ve seen both your Model Y and SR+ videos and I’m wondering if you went ahead with the SR+ purchase?
Hi @Steve White I sure did, took delivery of my Model 3 SR+ about 2 weeks ago and love it! I've got a few videos coming that talk about the order process, waiting time and the all important delivery experience (and what flaws the car had when it was delivered). So stay tuned for that, but bottom line this car is amazing!
How much does it cost in electric to charge it to full?
At home about $15. Supercharger about $30.
Is it possible to use a nema 14-50 adapter for home charging and disconnect just the main unit with 110v adapter for travel purposes? Of course I understand other public charging places are available, but just wanted to have a worst case back up. So total set up cost is reasonably low, with both 110 and 220 flexibility?
I think I understand your question, and I think the answer is yes. Let's break it down:
Your car came with a wall charger, which works on both 120V and 240V. But it came only with the 120V wall adapter. So, if you bought a 14-50 adapter like I did, yes you can attach it to your Tesla wall charger and use that 100% of the time at home. This would leave you with a 120V adapter sitting in your trunk. When you decided to travel you would have to disconnect the main Tesla charging cable from the 14-50 adapter and reattach the 120V adapter and take the connected cables with you. Which would leave you with just a 14-50 adapter plugged into your 240V outlet at home, which of course does nothing - so I'd remove it from the wall altogether.
If you have a 240V wall outlet readily available at home, the cost of 120V and 240V home charging is about $50, just the cost of the 14-50 adapter. It's a great option and works well.
In reality, if you take your 120V charger with you on the road, the odds of you finding a 120V outlet to plug into where the 10 foot cord will reach are low. So public chargers are the best option. But I sometimes take my 120V charger with me just for peace of mind.
Hope that helps!
I’m sorry, I have no idea about electricity so may I ask, can I buy an 14-30 adapter and plug it with my regular adapter at home to convert it to 240v?
Hi @Boss 429. If I'm understanding your question correctly, yes, you can use your existing Tesla charger (120V standard plug), put a 14-30 adapter on it and plug it into a 14-30 (240V) wall outlet, which is what I did. Is that what you're asking?
@@marclovescars Yes! That’s what a doctor order. Thanks mate.
Hey marc please reply me in baby steps
I am living in ground unit most corner apt next to parking lot spot 1 ( my reserve parking ) bcz i pay
My room electric outket to parking spot is 22feet( i am planning to buy tesla in two weeks)this solution will make me finally decide if i will buy tesla model y
Please help me how will i charge my tesla
I gave you my entire scenario of situation
Once again my room window to parking spot is 22feet
I am relying more on home charging rather then ev station though i hv 2 electrify only 3.5 miles from my apt i will really appreciate your reply
Simple solution here, buy an EV grade (10 gauge) thick extension cord. 10 foot length cord should be sufficient, as the basic Tesla wall charger is about 20 feet long, so that gives you 30 feet of total length.
@@marclovescars thanks for reply can u send me link to this exactly
Please bcz I m not that hi tech I m little old school
@@rajendramodusu5980 Sure, I’ll need to know what voltage your outlet is, and also what shape your outlet is (plug shape, how many holes, etc.). 110V? 220V? 230V?
@@marclovescars nice
Why 240 looks different outlet than 110 I don’t get it in usa
Electrical guy here. When they design electrical equipment, they install a "self destruct" mechanism that destroys your electrical equipment if you apply the wrong voltage....you might see a "puff of smoke" when this happens.
Okay, no self destruct, but, different plugs protect your equipment from getting the wrong voltage and burning up.
A lot of un-noticed details go into the design of your electrical system at your house. 120 volt plugs have 3 different sized prongs to ensure proper connections. 2 prong plugs often have one prong larger than the other for proper connection (only plugs in one way).
Electric equipment (tools for example) have power (hot) connected to the switch first. The rest of your tool remains at zero, ground, potential (zero volts) until the tool is energized.
You charge on 24 amps ?? why not 32 amps
Good question! First of all, I have a 30 amp circuit, NEMA-14-30, so it would be impossible to charge at 32 amps. Secondly, my Generation 1 Tesla Charger (several years old) allows a maximum of 24 amps or 80% of the circuit rating, unfortunately.
@Lobo243 By the way, I literally just finished a video testing a 3rd party charger and it allowed me to pull the full 30 amps from my circuit for the 1st time ever. Video should go live soon, you'll be surprised how many miles/hr of charge I got! I certainly was. 😀 Makes me think about installing a NEMA-1450 circuit so I can charge at 40 amps! I want MORE! Haha.
@@marclovescars Nice...I'll wait for the video
@@marclovescars For electrical fire safety only use 80% if the rated circuit. So if you have a 30amp circuit your max amp charge should only by 24amps. If you exceed 80% for long periods of time, like chargin an EV, the wires get too hot and melts which will cause an electrical fire. It is only ok to use the max rated circuit for short spurts of time, few minutes only.
@Lobo243 video is live! ua-cam.com/video/uxC9rVHxFhw/v-deo.htmlsi=2CEoehyvqiCalxMD
Voltage is only part of the equation when it comes to charging speed, you also need to know the amperage of the circuit. Your 240v outlet is 30 amps, which is adequate, but most go with 50 if they are installing a new receptacle. The Wallconnector can go up to 60 but as low as 20. Actual charging current is 80% of the circuit size.
Well said and great info, thank you. So if I installed a 50 amp new circuit charging would be faster, but I’m very happy with 25 miles/hr on my existing 240V dryer outlet. Very tempting though.
The real question is how high are the electricity bills?
That is indeed the question. Unfortunately I don’t have the answer - yet. Our electricity bills are generally very high here in CA, and it’s difficult to tease out which charges are coming from the Tesla. I will pay closer attention though and report back. Nighttime only charging should give me a decent view of it. I can tell you though overall our bill is about the same as it always is this time of year, haven’t seen a noticeable spike in days I charge the car. I am skeptical of the hearsay that it only costs $6 or so to charge from empty to full. We shall see!
I charge 99 % of the time at home. I pay 1.4 cents per mile. So 100 miles costs about $1.40 it turns out to be about 1/10 the price of gas. I pay 7 cents a kilowatt here.
Just had my Tesla 240 outlet installed. My model 3 recognizes the 240v, but it will only charge at 6amps. Everytime I change the amperage, it resets to 6amps when I plug it in??? Any suggestions??
Hmm, very strange. Might want to ask the electrician that installed it. The car could be intentionally throttling the power draw to avoid overloading the circuit. Also, might be worth stopping at a supercharger to see if the car charges at high amps (32). That will at least eliminate the car as a possible problem.
You should be pulling 24 amps off that 240V outlet.
Isn’t it a 220v outlet
110 is actually 120 and 220 is actually 240.
In Sweden we have 240 everywhere except in the bathroom where a transformer drops the voltage to 110.
We also have three phase power at 400V and three times the current.
That's what I use to charge my EV (which is not and never will be a Tesla).
Yep, @Michael May nailed it! The terms 220 and 240 are used interchangeably, especially in the U.S. but the outlet referenced actually puts out 240 volts.
@@marclovescars Yup, for some reason we still call it 220V. I'm sure it comes from a time where it would vary and that was the lowest voltage supplied.
@@michaelmay5453 That is correct. The outlet used to put out 220V long ago and was eventually increased to 240V by most electricity providers over time.
5 mi/hr is not 1 kw/hr
Just multiply 12a and 117v and youl get 1.4 kw/hr.
Same goes for 25 mi/hr - its 5,76 kw/hr