HOW RIG WELDERS GET PAID (CONTRACT VS. SPLIT CHECK)

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  • HOW RIG WELDERS GET PAID (CONTRACT VS. SPLIT CHECK)
    Pipeline welder pay can sound confusing if you have never worked in it before. An annual pipeline welder salary is made up of hourly arm pay, truck pay and per diem. A pipeline welder income isn’t all taxed the same either. So when you are asking how much do pipeliners make it’s important to know the different ways to get paid and what it all means.
    I’m Austin Ross a pipeline welder and this channel is for new, future and seasoned pipeliner and rig welder. I’m often asked about rig welder salary and pipeline rig welder salary so today I wanted to do the setup for that future video and explain the ins and outs of how you can get paid. It’s different if you are on a contract rig welder jobs vs being a nonunion or union welder. I would prefer to talk about expenses over a union pipeline welder salary but if you need those answers let me know and I’ll make a future video about them. Whatever you do don’t get distracted by pipeline money without knowing the full story. Here’s a jumpstart for that conversation.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 141

  • @sixstringsolution
    @sixstringsolution 4 роки тому +8

    I was in the industry a long time and your videos are great for both new hires and dinosaurs! Great information, thanks.

  • @tylervanderlubbe313
    @tylervanderlubbe313 4 роки тому +7

    Love your videos bro keep em coming , Been a rig welder for a long time I work most of the time on contract I prefer making my own rates but split and being an employee is nice as well it is a lot less stress that way, contract can be hard to get paid at times

  • @josieblends
    @josieblends 3 роки тому +3

    thank you really , i am focused on doing this in the future and i really do appreciate this video , i am a sophomore in high school right now and this information is very worthy

  • @bakabaka2061
    @bakabaka2061 4 роки тому +3

    Good content Ross, did not watch because I already know but it's good to know you have your truck under your own company name or tax #. It's nice to have the ability to write certain expenses off.

  • @grantimusmccarthy9016
    @grantimusmccarthy9016 4 роки тому

    Love your vids and well informed vids.thanks for your time and knowledge

  • @gmtn9565
    @gmtn9565 2 роки тому

    Thanks for all the great videos, it helps to get time go by in between jobs.

  • @InoJack
    @InoJack 4 роки тому +4

    Stopped by to learn and say 'HI'. Lot of good information in this video.

  • @scottfeatherstone7156
    @scottfeatherstone7156 Рік тому

    Great info Austin

  • @mikemullins3761
    @mikemullins3761 4 роки тому

    Excellent info & advice!

  • @ciceroaraujo5183
    @ciceroaraujo5183 4 роки тому

    You're a great communicator

  • @sbfarmer8
    @sbfarmer8 4 роки тому +9

    having been both, being an employee is about the easiest thing in the world. however the flexibility of writing your name on the front of the check is pretty cool.

  • @Branden787
    @Branden787 4 роки тому +21

    It was awesome meeting you at the fuel station this past week. Really changed my Outlook on moving out to Oklahoma. I've been practicing everyday since. You're info that you put out helps more people then you could ever imagine.

  • @louisianaman3857
    @louisianaman3857 4 роки тому +7

    I’m 16 years old and I am an aspiring welder. Love your videos! They have taught me so much of what I need to know going into this industry!

  • @jacobflores7621
    @jacobflores7621 4 роки тому +14

    I do both. I work for a shop and on my off time I work for myself.

    • @jacobflores7621
      @jacobflores7621 4 роки тому +3

      I’m also a combo welder. Stick, mig, dual shield, tig. Gotta have the skills to pay the bills

    • @michof7110
      @michof7110 2 роки тому

      I’m signing up for a job corps in the wielding and automotive tech wing, that’s gonna be my plan here after I get my certs

  • @barrettdamon
    @barrettdamon 4 роки тому +1

    I RESPECT YOU!

  • @ryanchristie5349
    @ryanchristie5349 4 роки тому +7

    I’m just a hobby welder, but it’s interesting to hear all of this. You never know...

    • @sbranham86
      @sbranham86 3 роки тому

      Me too. I never plan on welding pipe I just like welding

    • @patrickhorvath2684
      @patrickhorvath2684 3 роки тому +1

      @@sbranham86
      Yeah same here.
      Was looking at used Rangers n Bobcats, mostly worn out well used machines gig for $3grand or more.
      For less $ I bought a 1966 Redface: )
      Love the sound of that Jeep engine

  • @jeromemartinez8331
    @jeromemartinez8331 4 роки тому +8

    If it came to pipeline I would like to be an employee. Either way if you’re a contract welder or employee you still have to hustle for your work. As an employee it’s nice having consumables covered because that’s less stuff you have to carry around from job to job

    • @arosswelding
      @arosswelding  4 роки тому

      Straight up. All very good points. 👌😎

  • @rickyburton4642
    @rickyburton4642 4 роки тому

    Great videos Austin!😃👍👍🇺🇸

  • @lukewilson6765
    @lukewilson6765 4 роки тому

    I have a small portable torch set. You can get you one of those to take with you in case you need a torch.

  • @devinthompson7816
    @devinthompson7816 4 роки тому

    I'm in a completely different profession where I'm a Forman I'll have a chance to become the boss if I stay in it because it's a family business. I said all that to say this I love the idea of being my own boss it's great you get to make your own schedule. But it also sucks when your doing a job that takes 3 weeks and you have to pay fuel and your guys the whole time before you get your check. It's a whole lot nicer to get off on Friday with a check in your hand and go home and not worry about what your going to do if a machine or truck breaks down Monday morning but it's also nice to have an opportunity to make a huge amount of money if you grind and put in the hours. That's just my opinion on it

  • @javierorta3849
    @javierorta3849 4 роки тому +1

    Contract I think it's better love your shows bud keep it up...

  • @retireddriver16
    @retireddriver16 4 роки тому +1

    Nice job 👍

  • @Welddotcom
    @Welddotcom 4 роки тому +14

    Excellent video Austin! 👍

    • @arosswelding
      @arosswelding  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks

    • @achillesduke1297
      @achillesduke1297 2 роки тому

      I guess im asking the wrong place but does any of you know a method to get back into an Instagram account..?
      I was stupid forgot my password. I would appreciate any tips you can give me

    • @williammadden3137
      @williammadden3137 2 роки тому

      @Achilles Duke instablaster =)

    • @achillesduke1297
      @achillesduke1297 2 роки тому

      @William Madden thanks for your reply. I got to the site through google and im in the hacking process atm.
      I see it takes a while so I will get back to you later with my results.

    • @achillesduke1297
      @achillesduke1297 2 роки тому

      @William Madden it did the trick and I now got access to my account again. I am so happy:D
      Thank you so much, you really help me out !

  • @rolandcortez2588
    @rolandcortez2588 4 роки тому +10

    Also depends if your really good buddies with the project manager , superintendent it’s who you know.

  • @chrisdoeg5199
    @chrisdoeg5199 4 роки тому

    I don't have any real experience in owning a company aside from side work. However I enjoy being an employee. I may not make more but I stay local to home and I don't ever have to worry about anything besides passing X-ray! Not bad if you ask me.

    • @arosswelding
      @arosswelding  4 роки тому

      You’re right it’s way less stress for sure. Able to kick back and enjoy the job. 👌😎

  • @harleyjune1233
    @harleyjune1233 4 роки тому

    nice video and lots of info - here is my take away and question as a contractor straight pay - arm - $50/hr, rig $15/hr, $65 - hr total - deduct helper rates - (estimate -$20/hr) , business cost per hour using 60 hr weeks equipment costs - rig , truck, ins, fuel -$8 (using $1400/mo ) , taxes - $5 - take home - =65-20-13=$32*240 (4 weeks 60 avg wk) = $7500/month ($2k/wk welder helper $1200/wk) - i am not taking into account PD because too many variables for this calculation... - does this seem the correct math - roughly -

  • @masonlemons697
    @masonlemons697 Рік тому

    Owner for sure

  • @2424DMC
    @2424DMC 2 роки тому

    As a tire guy that broke out into being his own boss, and recently started doing mobile welding work, I never want to be someone’s employee ever again.

  • @critters5236
    @critters5236 4 роки тому +1

    Happy to see you joined. A union

  • @TheGmess1982
    @TheGmess1982 4 роки тому

    Split check is way easier! You don’t have to worry about putting money back to pay taxes in April. On top of that, you don’t pay taxes on per diem and rig pay if it’s under $18 an hour.

  • @eliuddegracia1656
    @eliuddegracia1656 4 роки тому +4

    The employee but the end game is to be a company owner.

  • @ScottDavis-nt5wh
    @ScottDavis-nt5wh Рік тому

    Great video. On the split check do you get a W-2 and 1099 or W-2 for arm pay only?

  • @qklmike
    @qklmike 4 роки тому +6

    Owner. Cause now a days you can't deduct what you could before trump on split check. Alot of contract jobs I go on and rigs they will supply consumables if they don't no big deal. My welding supply gives me good deals and if they have something I need for 1 day (plasma for example) they will let me grab it and demo it for the day. It's always good to have contacts

  • @marcuschildress4711
    @marcuschildress4711 4 роки тому

    What's some good rig insurance companies / policies?

  • @anthonyla3104
    @anthonyla3104 4 роки тому +5

    Self employed. I feel unions easier when while your young.

    • @redrobbo1896
      @redrobbo1896 4 роки тому +2

      AnthonyLA 310 unions are the way to go regardless of age. Getting in the Union, especially a union as strong as the UA, while you're young and staying for 30, 35, even 40 years provides one hell of a pension and medical care for retirement. If you are lucky and or persistent enough to get into one of the building trades unions you should stay until the day you retire. Nothing says you have to stay as an hourly worker, you could become a union contractor and do your own thing that way. Either way union is the way to go.

  • @TitoEspinoza11
    @TitoEspinoza11 2 роки тому

    Hello Ross I'm starting this year my rig welding experience..I have 10 years of experience a welder..I plan on getting a V8 4x4 truck..what do you recommend me ...to get a better for in field area

  • @bradr1913
    @bradr1913 3 роки тому

    Thanks for promoting our industry. The job you have has structure, content, meaning and power, pay but also on goin education. We have a shortage of welders in the Midwest. You should team up with some contractors on y.t. to promote good meaningful work. Nice vid my man.

    • @shannonp4037
      @shannonp4037 2 роки тому

      My son is graduating HS in May, took a welding class in High School. Loves it and wants to get into welding. Will companies in the mid-west hire him and train him too? Thanks.

  • @jimflynn7551
    @jimflynn7551 4 роки тому

    split check

  • @zigzag77777
    @zigzag77777 4 роки тому +5

    798 is the way to go! Better in the long run. I’m sure you know, if you go union, no more non union work. You’re either in or not.

  • @mikeanderson5772
    @mikeanderson5772 3 роки тому

    Im about to join 601 out of Milwaukee. I eventually want my own rig and a camper (probably 30' or so). I was wondering if you need your class A CDL with that beautiful Dodge and Camper, or if you can get by without one? Thanks and god bless!

  • @LeoXplores
    @LeoXplores 3 роки тому

    When someone says union what do you mean by that? Like what is union?

  • @freshlymade3932
    @freshlymade3932 3 роки тому

    Being am employee is good, being on our own is better sometimes...
    For several reasons...lol

  • @kirstenspencer3630
    @kirstenspencer3630 3 роки тому

    What insurance company do you use ?

  • @mag0842
    @mag0842 4 роки тому

    I like your videos man. I'm pretty sure you can put together a video about survey 😅. I worked for a many of years surveying for new lines.

  • @Stabby5656
    @Stabby5656 3 роки тому

    why does it say your inner circle app wont let me purchase ??

  • @aarondailey4821
    @aarondailey4821 4 роки тому +1

    I go to Kentucky welding institute

    • @coltonswindell689
      @coltonswindell689 3 роки тому

      Planning on going there next year... I figure you are graduated by now. How was it??

  • @aarondailey4821
    @aarondailey4821 4 роки тому +9

    Is there anyway you could help me get a job after I’m done with school

  • @cal3b803
    @cal3b803 2 роки тому

    whats the best insurance company for rig welders?? every company i have talked to refuses to give me coverage beacuse this line of work is "high risk". help me out yall, id appreciate it!

  • @eleyewing1685
    @eleyewing1685 4 роки тому +1

    how can I get started on with oil feild if I don't know anyone or any company

    • @arosswelding
      @arosswelding  4 роки тому +2

      It’s a matter of meeting someone on the inside. Start by getting any kind of experience.
      Check out this video.
      ua-cam.com/video/nbYKc39YR-U/v-deo.html

  • @adammarsden4650
    @adammarsden4650 4 роки тому +13

    Man it almost seems as or even more a proffit to be a welders helper and not hav to supply all that stuff

    • @johndowe7003
      @johndowe7003 4 роки тому +1

      hell yeah, only thing you gotta worry about is showing up to work lol

    • @mlwest8975
      @mlwest8975 3 роки тому +1

      You don’t buy everything right then and there. You buy tools as you go along. Some tools are worth having and some aren’t. I’d rather have all my tools than using or asking other hands for this specific tool.

  • @calebmattix391
    @calebmattix391 4 роки тому +3

    Contract, because I do what I want😎😆

  • @ThePete2432
    @ThePete2432 4 роки тому +8

    Union for the win

  • @aprillawless4746
    @aprillawless4746 3 роки тому +1

    I'm trying to slowly get out on my own after school. But, I don't want to jump right in with both feet from the start. I already work for a company.

  • @dtrain5519
    @dtrain5519 4 роки тому +16

    So making 5 grand a week average. When that week is done what are you clearing after expenses? Thanks!

  • @Toxile
    @Toxile 4 роки тому

    I'm currently trying to set up a rig. its a Chevrolet 2500 single cab with a 9 foot flat bed. got 2 boxes on it. want to throw on a machine, oxy fuel tanks, and get my own rig welding tools (sumners, beveling machines, have a lot of hand tools, been in a shop for 4 years doing dual shield) how can I get on without this shop? I would even start as a helper, just because there's still a bit to learn being in the field.

  • @davezorn
    @davezorn 4 роки тому

    Owner

  • @franciscopena4536
    @franciscopena4536 4 роки тому +18

    You should add at least two ads so you can start getting paid for your UA-cam videos, and keep them over 10 minutes long.

  • @johnathonhardister6299
    @johnathonhardister6299 3 роки тому

    How can I get into pipeline welding or union Im in North Carolina

  • @kodynerby6499
    @kodynerby6499 3 роки тому

    Can you explain rig rent

  • @jasonrhyner7529
    @jasonrhyner7529 2 роки тому

    I'd be a self contractor...tax season reason.

  • @richardpena8632
    @richardpena8632 Рік тому

    How much for an experience helper

  • @pineyjoe8656
    @pineyjoe8656 4 роки тому

    How do you get into the pipeline union? I tried applying to 798 but nobody has got back to me. Any info thanks

    • @arosswelding
      @arosswelding  4 роки тому +1

      Unfortunately they are not selling books right now. Work has been slower this year. But that’s how, putting in an app but it helps if you know someone that can give you a good reference.

    • @pineyjoe8656
      @pineyjoe8656 4 роки тому

      Alright thanks

    • @arosswelding
      @arosswelding  4 роки тому

      Check out these videos:
      ua-cam.com/video/OYiN-hEKDgY/v-deo.html
      ua-cam.com/video/nbYKc39YR-U/v-deo.html

  • @eliassantiago8521
    @eliassantiago8521 4 роки тому

    I would love to be a company employer, but for right now I'm just a company employee.

    • @arosswelding
      @arosswelding  4 роки тому

      I know what you mean. Being an employee is a good place to be though, it’s how you get experience. As long as your doing something you enjoy. 👌😎

    • @eliassantiago8521
      @eliassantiago8521 4 роки тому

      @@arosswelding that's absolutely true.

  • @diamondsconstruction4949
    @diamondsconstruction4949 4 роки тому +1

    Will you be making your way down here to tx anytime soon?

    • @arosswelding
      @arosswelding  4 роки тому +3

      Never know... could get a phone call tomorrow.

  • @justuhking3605
    @justuhking3605 4 роки тому

    Company owner

  • @urielvillanueva3256
    @urielvillanueva3256 4 роки тому

    Company owner.

  • @gabewhisen3446
    @gabewhisen3446 4 роки тому +1

    Mastermind

  • @jakepeoples8525
    @jakepeoples8525 4 роки тому +2

    Can I go in the pipeline with a Lincoln ranger 250?

    • @rustyshackleford498
      @rustyshackleford498 4 роки тому

      Most likely no, not enough amps.

    • @arosswelding
      @arosswelding  4 роки тому +1

      Ya, I agree with rusty. I just don’t think it would have enough power and last very long. I would consider trading it for an sa 200.

    • @joeporter2040
      @joeporter2040 4 роки тому

      Yep. I gotta 200 you need. Good machine I just want a new one.

    • @jakepeoples8525
      @jakepeoples8525 4 роки тому +1

      How could it not have enough amps when it has 250 at 100% duty cycle and the sa 200 only has 200 at half the duty cycle? Just tryin to understand is all thanks for the info

    • @jakepeoples8525
      @jakepeoples8525 4 роки тому

      And where would I trade it

  • @cauechaves6876
    @cauechaves6876 4 роки тому

    wait a minut ! between 15 till 80 per hour and more 100 -200 per diem? that is correct?

  • @Tehcarp
    @Tehcarp 4 роки тому +1

    Contractor: me no pay for truck boo boo!

  • @jeremymeyer9986
    @jeremymeyer9986 4 роки тому +1

    How much do you helper get

    • @arosswelding
      @arosswelding  4 роки тому +1

      Non union anywhere from 15-20 bucks an hr plus 100 give or take a day for per diem. Local 798 union anywhere from 23-38 bucks an hr and 60 give or take a day for per diem.

    • @lmlscott7195
      @lmlscott7195 4 роки тому

      Our helpers get $16/$85

  • @juniorsalausa8443
    @juniorsalausa8443 3 роки тому

    Been an Ironworker for 13yrs and a shipyard maritime welder for 8yrs but now I'm looking to get into another trade like pipeline welder how do I go about getting into the pipeliner trade?

  • @MCCORMICK10202236
    @MCCORMICK10202236 4 роки тому

    How many hours on average a day? When does the time start and end?

    • @arosswelding
      @arosswelding  4 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/gmDItUyxIMs/v-deo.html

    • @MCCORMICK10202236
      @MCCORMICK10202236 4 роки тому +1

      @@arosswelding thanks. I used to work road construction, 60-70hrs a week. I've been thinking of getting into pipeline starting as a helper. I've been self employed my whole life as a mechanic. I don't mind being being off work and heading back home. Also I have a small service truck and even a couple welding machines. But my welding experience is minimal.

  • @Okay17282
    @Okay17282 2 роки тому

    Can I become a rig welder with a basic welding certificate

    • @shannonp4037
      @shannonp4037 2 роки тому

      There is a certification specific to pipe welding.

  • @alexmiller9027
    @alexmiller9027 4 роки тому

    Employee

  • @hskgaming4202
    @hskgaming4202 4 роки тому

    Hey my names’ randy I just earned my welding certificate this year. Do you know any jobs that hire entry level welders or welder helpers?

    • @arosswelding
      @arosswelding  4 роки тому

      I don’t. Have you heard about my inner circle? Or seen this video?
      ua-cam.com/video/nbYKc39YR-U/v-deo.html

    • @felixcardenas513
      @felixcardenas513 4 роки тому

      Marmen energy. It’s in South Dakota. Good for entry levels

  • @mahfujabyai9764
    @mahfujabyai9764 4 роки тому

    I have pipe welding experience 6year. I want join your company. can you take me.

  • @krobertson4471
    @krobertson4471 2 роки тому

    Company employe

  • @samuelcampos5936
    @samuelcampos5936 4 роки тому +6

    I'm a welder for 22+years, this is so damn political!..

  • @amike4211
    @amike4211 4 роки тому

    I like letting someone else pay me.

  • @ciceroaraujo5183
    @ciceroaraujo5183 4 роки тому

    Can I please work for you or anyone that you know please?

  • @cesartorres5239
    @cesartorres5239 4 роки тому

    Company owner

  • @marksamluk9879
    @marksamluk9879 4 роки тому

    Employee