@@kyouitv 😮 ah so that's why our Arthur is avoiding team fight. He can't tank for us 😂 If I knew this I would have picked Ata as a jungler and be the tank of the team Btw kyoui Who's the best CC jungler?
Hi to all Im an Arthur Main with 5k+ proficiency it all depends on how you play him. and the items are very important im solely focusing those supports that i need to silence + items with 20% CD reduction is so important he so mobile that you can spam 1st skill with 3 secs CD and you can always run away using the 1st skill then regen passive + regen items makes him a running fountain in the battlefield i use execute spell
Another problem is his ult duration. It barely CCs the enemy. I used Arthur with Stun as my battle spell. Even when I use Ult + Stun, the CC duration is just too short, enemies are able to simply walk away like nothing happened
I think that CC is just a decoration or just icing on the cake, what bothers me is the damage type and damage. And I'm a fan of Garen in League. They could atleast change the damage type if they want to keep the damage. it's the worst calculation cause if you want to increase the damage, you have to buy Magic Defense penetration items.
He is very good in early laning phase, and domination in mid game (if he keeps the momentum from early), but it mostly works on low elo. At higher elo people just play it safe / really depends on how the gank goes. His skill sucks on late game due to bad scaling.
I started playing less than a month ago and scaled quickly in ranked thanks to Arthur (and some Lian Po), I felt the game was kinda easy until Diamond, oh boy, I really felt the change, your video confirms why I was getting some really hard matches. I guess I'll try with Biron or Dharma.
Wonder if T-san give Arthur his AoV passive instead of the current one will he be atleast viable as Roam? Because in AoV he was played in tournament as a Roamer in the global ban pick scenario (if you use some hero you can't pick it again until some round passed) .
Honest opinion. Arthur helped me reach grandmaster but I agree he is a very weak hero. He is pretty useful as a full tank build and he can sustain. However, you need to have a really good early game otherwise you'll lose easily to stronger clash lane heroes like Allain and Biron.
I will say it's not just Arthur that suck, but some clash lane heroes need to be buffed so they can compete with excellent heroes such as (Allain, Biron, Dharma, and Mayene). In fact, I have seen many people using MM heroes in other UA-cam videos and livestream such as Hou Yi and Garo to take down these S tier heroes (Go watch GIO on ANIME's channel for reference). Even the rest of the roles in this game, let's say we use the lowest tier from each roles can still defeat the best heroes in the tier from your community post depend on players skill in this game. Sorry if my English is bad, I love your videos by the way 🙏💙
How do you even pick Marksman in non Farm lane? I queue up with 3 people and it locks me out of all heroes except for support/roam heroes(for clarity I have the roam icon, so that means I'm support role) Edit: I think I mentioned somewhere u can pick any hero on any lane, i retract that statement, when you duo, you get locked to only a few heroes for your lane.
@@MangaGamified That's the problem, I have been trying to figure it out. Honestly I wanna try to play MM on clash lane however some UA-cam videos and livestream I have seen never show on how they do that. But you can still watch some videos on UA-cam if you are looking for evidence, go watch some videos on UA-cam by Hou Yi Official and GIO ON ANIME, both videos beat Dun & Allain. I once got beat by Shouyue using Arthur in Clash lane by the way 😑
@@RaidKun In Quick 5v5 in solo queue I'm pretty sure I can go MM in clash, also, I often play Shouyue in clash, not saying undefeatable especially that double shield guy and hammer girl, but definitely toxic. Not saying I'm great but I'm atleast 500+/1000 mastery on Houyue, 4 deaths at most in worst games. I'm a bit too focused on other things so I can't really remember when you can't pick any for certain lanes but that queue with 3 guys did not allow me to pick heroes of other lanes. Gonna try Normal now.
With Arthur you have to calculate how and went to use your s1, also you need to know how to move qith or without your s2. With those things in mind, you have to absolutely dominate your lane so other lanes get anxious and leave their lane to fight yo.
He's basically the Garen of HoK then. Many people think he's useless but a majority of people still play him and those who main him will explain to you why he's a very "complex" champion to play. Although to be fair Garen is leagues (no pun intended) better than Arthur so there's that.
Try to play Him Full HP Build. Focus on HP and HP regen then the play stay is In&Out.. He will be kinda anying because pf regem.. just like Uranus in ML
to be honest, I always used him in AoV after the buff, where he was really broken. But it seems that in HoK he loses line for all heroes, he only serves to clear waves
Almost mained him cause I'm a huge fan of Garen in League, but others are just better for the same skill req. and effort. His ult for example is magic damage and even the damage is low. I think they did the Darius version Dwain Wei really well, especially when you get used to Dwain Wei it becomes even more fun and do even more daring stuff, Arthur even if you get used to him, you only get used to how subpar he is and lacking in tools if not power, as time goes on, you only get better to time your ult with Arthur.
only garen players know how good arthur is, i play arthur when i get toplane and i carry 90% of my games and win lane almost every single time against every hero, (i'm master 3 btw)
Why even bro called as a tank ? Bro can't even even do anything in 1 v 1 . I am now in gold ll rank most of time i didn't saw anyone used this character in rank match . Either way devs should remove this character or give some high damage build to this hero as a tank . Even loong can easily beat anyone in 1 v 1 without any difficulty
To me is not the worst hero given somebody used him very well since he dominated my team especially if he is jungling which is just technically a Knight Shinobi around alongside Han Xin
I main arthur as i used it in aov..i feel hes much stronger in hok, whats with the shield btw? It makes him looks weak, and too similar to thane / tigreal.. but yes he is still like they say jack of all trades, master of none..i clash, so i often see or read comments about clashing counters but for arthur, the youtuber just say just wait for his skill to cd..and i did just that..result i win most of the time even in early using wuyan or xiang yu (my main clasher nowdays)..and when im lost is just because i got too overconfident in slugfest (his 4th+execute is indeed deadly).. In late game, i just ignore him because its ridicilously easy (he got no damage even by using his best combo) to kill and not worth the time or satisfaction to duel..i dont use him much these days..ill probably use him again if he got the undead/true king tho..its my fav skin in aov..
Kind of truth.. he only good at low tier... high tier ppl all using stronge hero.. especially lubu.. not only he tanky and aslo got true dmg.. in teamfight enemy is his food... but arthur in team fight he become enemy food... i dont know why.. arthur i not afraid but afraid of xiangyu...
I agree he's bad. Same in AoV he is just as bad and he gets a shield when using his 2nd skill in there. I legit was hoping he would thrive better in HoK since Butterfly, Allain, Ata and Charlotte to name a few managed to do so. Plus Tanks and Defense Equips actually work and do something in HoK compared to AoV.
Sounds like he just needs a stat adjustment. Garen works fine in LoL and Arthur did as well in AoV. Not everyone needs a bunch of built in dashes or immunities to cc. Sometimes the simpler mechanics a character has, the more effective they become at the basics since they have to be balanced around those simplicities. So they become gate keepers, not necessarily the best but an easier to master top tier character that must be beat by everyone who wants to be at the top.
What? Biron is shit. Other than early lane attempt at bullying, what can he do? Late game he is completely irrelevant, not a tank and lacks the mobility to split push. Slow AF and deleted immediately when he tries to dive enemy back line. Not every good hero must have 3 dash skills with cc to qualify to be a good hero. And what really sucked in the game you show case was your team mates, obviously they are weaker players compared to your opponent team.
weaker? try playing him in the higher rank you will be losing every single match with arthur biron requires angle and timing you can't just go in the backline without a proper setup main reason why you can't hold that much is that you are not using his passive properly and your item build is more into the bruiser damage type
Oh my god my main is called the worst hero now where is the buff timi pls gimme buff I have a not rlly original idea that i mentioned on reddit which is give him true dmg magic dmg ain't cutting it so replace it wut if arthur group slienced main target more and other targets lasts not as long and s2 reduces incoming dmg when active cuz well they are f'ing shields ofc true dmg from ult will probably be nerfed from 24 percent but that's fine
Nah, you are just envious of pro arthur users so that is why u are trying to mock that hero. Sun bin is the one who should be mocked in your contents all the time 😒 And based on your video i watched, you are poor at using Arthur. You should not make this content if i were you
For me its caiyan and especially arli because every single time they get picked I always lose Like cmon you pick arli at least practice it a little bit
Today I had a game where our cai yan went full attack build. Not magic damage, physical damage and attack speed. We had no adc so she became it lol. That blows all these other bad heroes out of the water
Bro had enough of the Arthur comments that he made a vid dedicated to roasting him 💀💀💀
Lmao 💀
he is just too squishy
@@kyouitv 😮
ah so that's why our Arthur is avoiding team fight. He can't tank for us 😂
If I knew this I would have picked Ata as a jungler and be the tank of the team
Btw kyoui Who's the best CC jungler?
@@eleven11three a lot of fighter have nice CC but the best one, to me, is dharma (or mulan if YOU know how to properly double 2 skill). GL 😊
@@eleven11three probably zilong
ata is fine
ying is decent
musahi
agudo is okay
mayene can jungle
and lian po
Hi to all
Im an Arthur Main with 5k+ proficiency
it all depends on how you play him.
and the items are very important im solely focusing those supports that i need to silence + items with 20% CD reduction is so important he so mobile that you can spam 1st skill with 3 secs CD and you can always run away using the 1st skill then regen passive + regen items makes him a running fountain in the battlefield i use execute spell
Defeat after defeat after defeat... Arthur is so bad.... But why is it always the same friggin lineup
I always die to this dude
malo es el que no sbe jugar ese heroe es duro
@@oscarmestre5377Lo que pasa es que en China todo está más roto, en el servidor global arthur aguanta bastante
Another problem is his ult duration. It barely CCs the enemy. I used Arthur with Stun as my battle spell. Even when I use Ult + Stun, the CC duration is just too short, enemies are able to simply walk away like nothing happened
I think that CC is just a decoration or just icing on the cake, what bothers me is the damage type and damage. And I'm a fan of Garen in League. They could atleast change the damage type if they want to keep the damage. it's the worst calculation cause if you want to increase the damage, you have to buy Magic Defense penetration items.
He is very good in early laning phase, and domination in mid game (if he keeps the momentum from early), but it mostly works on low elo. At higher elo people just play it safe / really depends on how the gank goes. His skill sucks on late game due to bad scaling.
I started playing less than a month ago and scaled quickly in ranked thanks to Arthur (and some Lian Po), I felt the game was kinda easy until Diamond, oh boy, I really felt the change, your video confirms why I was getting some really hard matches. I guess I'll try with Biron or Dharma.
Wonder if T-san give Arthur his AoV passive instead of the current one will he be atleast viable as Roam? Because in AoV he was played in tournament as a Roamer in the global ban pick scenario (if you use some hero you can't pick it again until some round passed) .
Honest opinion. Arthur helped me reach grandmaster but I agree he is a very weak hero. He is pretty useful as a full tank build and he can sustain. However, you need to have a really good early game otherwise you'll lose easily to stronger clash lane heroes like Allain and Biron.
how would you counter XiangYu if you're facing him in CL, and which hero would you pick against him?
any sustain and mobility hero will do
like biron
mayene
charlotte
I missed the dharma skin event in global server. Wil it be back again?
Not sure about it
Wth were you even doing bruhh,
His scaling is dogshit, but his passive isn't that bad. Would be nice to see a revamp for his skillet though.
I will say it's not just Arthur that suck, but some clash lane heroes need to be buffed so they can compete with excellent heroes such as (Allain, Biron, Dharma, and Mayene). In fact, I have seen many people using MM heroes in other UA-cam videos and livestream such as Hou Yi and Garo to take down these S tier heroes (Go watch GIO on ANIME's channel for reference). Even the rest of the roles in this game, let's say we use the lowest tier from each roles can still defeat the best heroes in the tier from your community post depend on players skill in this game. Sorry if my English is bad, I love your videos by the way 🙏💙
Marksman is all about skill base so yeah...
How do you even pick Marksman in non Farm lane? I queue up with 3 people and it locks me out of all heroes except for support/roam heroes(for clarity I have the roam icon, so that means I'm support role)
Edit: I think I mentioned somewhere u can pick any hero on any lane, i retract that statement, when you duo, you get locked to only a few heroes for your lane.
@@MangaGamified marksman is just too overrated like everyone wants to play it lol
@@MangaGamified That's the problem, I have been trying to figure it out. Honestly I wanna try to play MM on clash lane however some UA-cam videos and livestream I have seen never show on how they do that. But you can still watch some videos on UA-cam if you are looking for evidence, go watch some videos on UA-cam by Hou Yi Official and GIO ON ANIME, both videos beat Dun & Allain.
I once got beat by Shouyue using Arthur in Clash lane by the way 😑
@@RaidKun In Quick 5v5 in solo queue I'm pretty sure I can go MM in clash, also, I often play Shouyue in clash, not saying undefeatable especially that double shield guy and hammer girl, but definitely toxic. Not saying I'm great but I'm atleast 500+/1000 mastery on Houyue, 4 deaths at most in worst games.
I'm a bit too focused on other things so I can't really remember when you can't pick any for certain lanes but that queue with 3 guys did not allow me to pick heroes of other lanes.
Gonna try Normal now.
I felt like the only time i ever use arthur is when i'm facing allain
With Arthur you have to calculate how and went to use your s1, also you need to know how to move qith or without your s2. With those things in mind, you have to absolutely dominate your lane so other lanes get anxious and leave their lane to fight yo.
That doesn't work against chinese players lol
@@kyouitv I bet there is some chinese somewhere that can show you that Arthur is good.
@@l.f.a.m8020i think he is not talking about how you can use arthur, he is saying tgat arthur is a generally bad hero and barely useful kit
He's basically the Garen of HoK then. Many people think he's useless but a majority of people still play him and those who main him will explain to you why he's a very "complex" champion to play.
Although to be fair Garen is leagues (no pun intended) better than Arthur so there's that.
Garen has more damage and tankiness than this hero
Arthur is just a downgraded version of garen
Try to play Him Full HP Build. Focus on HP and HP regen then the play stay is In&Out.. He will be kinda anying because pf regem.. just like Uranus in ML
Enter then Silence or Stun or Both then Out.. Wait for cd then same thing
The regen is really not that high and fast enough and his early game is trash
He is just too squishy
to be honest, I always used him in AoV after the buff, where he was really broken. But it seems that in HoK he loses line for all heroes, he only serves to clear waves
Bro got an Arthur teamate and went thats enough I'll make a video to roast this hero out of misery
Almost mained him cause I'm a huge fan of Garen in League, but others are just better for the same skill req. and effort. His ult for example is magic damage and even the damage is low.
I think they did the Darius version Dwain Wei really well, especially when you get used to Dwain Wei it becomes even more fun and do even more daring stuff, Arthur even if you get used to him, you only get used to how subpar he is and lacking in tools if not power, as time goes on, you only get better to time your ult with Arthur.
the silence is nice but yeah, he's clearly lacking in both tankiness or damage department
Using Arthur depends on your Teammates too to win. Im using a Health Build in and out fight, just need a good teammates to win 😊
Maybe, you can try arthur (jungler tank)😅
Have Arthur got reworked in CN version?
No
Dum and Allain eat him alive 😭
@@lyan117 no it's base to the player skill
only garen players know how good arthur is, i play arthur when i get toplane and i carry 90% of my games and win lane almost every single time against every hero, (i'm master 3 btw)
Why even bro called as a tank ?
Bro can't even even do anything in 1 v 1 .
I am now in gold ll rank most of time i didn't saw anyone used this character in rank match .
Either way devs should remove this character or give some high damage build to this hero as a tank .
Even loong can easily beat anyone in 1 v 1 without any difficulty
Oh don't worry, even in High Rank Legend no one picks him 😂 Clash Lane always consist of Dun, Allain, Mayene or Sun Ce
@@ironheart4375 fr
To me is not the worst hero given somebody used him very well since he dominated my team especially if he is jungling which is just technically a Knight Shinobi around alongside Han Xin
I main arthur as i used it in aov..i feel hes much stronger in hok, whats with the shield btw? It makes him looks weak, and too similar to thane / tigreal..
but yes he is still like they say jack of all trades, master of none..i clash, so i often see or read comments about clashing counters but for arthur, the youtuber just say just wait for his skill to cd..and i did just that..result i win most of the time even in early using wuyan or xiang yu (my main clasher nowdays)..and when im lost is just because i got too overconfident in slugfest (his 4th+execute is indeed deadly)..
In late game, i just ignore him because its ridicilously easy (he got no damage even by using his best combo) to kill and not worth the time or satisfaction to duel..i dont use him much these days..ill probably use him again if he got the undead/true king tho..its my fav skin in aov..
I have 6000 hero power for this hero and use it pump to 30stars.The only way usefull is double silence when 35%~40% CD
if you could be able to late game lol
In late game double silence its most usefull to protect ur mm, like this match lam try to kill mm you can make it silence around 2second in teamfight
@@yu-an3753 the silence is kinda trash and it doesn't have any impact at all
And it also can be reduced by resistance boots
Got to grandmaster using Arthur
it's because he is only good in low rank
When the season is ending
Check the honor pass you will see how many days left before seasons end
@@kyouitv okay thanks
does limited skin return at some point? i wanna buy lady zhen's epic limited skin.
Not sure about it
I hv snow waltz if u want from frenzy
Kind of truth.. he only good at low tier... high tier ppl all using stronge hero.. especially lubu.. not only he tanky and aslo got true dmg.. in teamfight enemy is his food... but arthur in team fight he become enemy food... i dont know why.. arthur i not afraid but afraid of xiangyu...
I want enzo in this game so bad🥲,
Is Xuance in the chinese version good please tell me❤️
Xuance has actually got a tweak on his ulti
I was just thinking about maining him because of his new skin, not anymore lol
He's super inconsistent and can't apply any real pressure especially late game so you're better off using more reliable heroes
@@businessisboomin7252you're right, I'll use Biron
what skin
I agree he's bad. Same in AoV he is just as bad and he gets a shield when using his 2nd skill in there. I legit was hoping he would thrive better in HoK since Butterfly, Allain, Ata and Charlotte to name a few managed to do so. Plus Tanks and Defense Equips actually work and do something in HoK compared to AoV.
I´m sure you don't like them but i would love see a tierlist made by you
I have a recent one in my community section
@@kyouitv discord invite is invalid for me
@@cantikaayu1162 discord.com/invite/s55cq82Z3p
Yang jian is by far the most useless hero ive played, at least arthur has enough utility for a clash laner.
Hope #HoKDeveloper would fix arturh
Compared to garren, he is just much worse
Sounds like he just needs a stat adjustment. Garen works fine in LoL and Arthur did as well in AoV. Not everyone needs a bunch of built in dashes or immunities to cc. Sometimes the simpler mechanics a character has, the more effective they become at the basics since they have to be balanced around those simplicities. So they become gate keepers, not necessarily the best but an easier to master top tier character that must be beat by everyone who wants to be at the top.
Kaizer is a great example of that in HoK. His kit is one of the most simple in the game, and yet he could still keep up with others
@@boutinpowered8373 but until then, until they reworked him in hok he'll always be a weak choice
Arthur needs a desperate rework I played him twice he is totally garbage even with jungle build like I only got 1 to 3 kills and I died like 7 times
He is a walking punching bag
@@kyouitv ay that’s for sure true he’s so squishy
Man idk i just kept getting bodied by this dude
But i lose to Arthur pick sometimes 😂😂😂
What? Biron is shit. Other than early lane attempt at bullying, what can he do? Late game he is completely irrelevant, not a tank and lacks the mobility to split push. Slow AF and deleted immediately when he tries to dive enemy back line.
Not every good hero must have 3 dash skills with cc to qualify to be a good hero. And what really sucked in the game you show case was your team mates, obviously they are weaker players compared to your opponent team.
weaker? try playing him in the higher rank you will be losing every single match with arthur
biron requires angle and timing you can't just go in the backline without a proper setup
main reason why you can't hold that much is that you are not using his passive properly and your item build is more into the bruiser damage type
@@kyouitv Show it then! solo queue high rank with Biron!
try watching my previous video I have a recent biron gameplay
@@kyouitv seen it. Nothing spectacular and your build is the usual build.
@@DeanWinchesterTheMan spectacular? You expecting him to 1v9? Lol
Arthurs a pain in the ass to deal with😭
Oh my god my main is called the worst hero now where is the buff timi pls gimme buff I have a not rlly original idea that i mentioned on reddit which is give him true dmg magic dmg ain't cutting it so replace it wut if arthur group slienced main target more and other targets lasts not as long and s2 reduces incoming dmg when active cuz well they are f'ing shields ofc true dmg from ult will probably be nerfed from 24 percent but that's fine
Just to be clear I like wuyan more cuz I hate basic atk targeting I struggle with that
The mark on S1 prob also needs a nerf if this is added the true DMG that is
garen is absolutely better. this big guy is so useless
He's only good in lowranks .
True
(I keep dying to tryhard liu shans and arthurs😩😭😭🙏)
I heaed rumour.. next coming new hero is jiang ziya.. is that really?? Another mid hero pushing xD
Probably
SUN BIN SHOULD BE THE WORST HERO EVER!!!!!! 😡😡😡😡😡
I disagree
worst hero? lol it made me GM rank because of this 😂
well he is only good in low rank
Arthur my goat
Nah, you are just envious of pro arthur users so that is why u are trying to mock that hero. Sun bin is the one who should be mocked in your contents all the time 😒
And based on your video i watched, you are poor at using Arthur. You should not make this content if i were you
Arthur who?
Try to play him against chinese players lol
Arthur lift me up to diamond 3
Tier up challenge, double star and star protection also did
Garen
garen bootleg
As far as I'm concerned the worst hero is between yaria and sun bin and I will not listen to any counter arguments
Those heroes are fine the only worst is the users who are playing it
Sun bin is fire,no way you're playing them right
For me its caiyan and especially arli because every single time they get picked I always lose
Like cmon you pick arli at least practice it a little bit
You haven't went against a good yaria then she annoying
Today I had a game where our cai yan went full attack build. Not magic damage, physical damage and attack speed. We had no adc so she became it lol. That blows all these other bad heroes out of the water