One cool thing i like about him is 25% of physical lifesteal is converted into magic & true dmg. With enough lifesteal u can heal from blazing cape burn, execute true dmg and any magic/true dmg. With 41% lifesteal from bloodweeper + weaver arcana the sustain is super crazy. Sometimes i go frenzy spell but most of the time just flash/sprint. Not to mention you can play more aggressively since u have crazy sustain. Only downside is u lose 10% movespd from arcana which is very big
@@jsb5479 What's the build order ? Blazing Cape is obviously the mandatory 1st item, but did you immedieately rush Bloodweaper as 2nd item or just the 2nd tier lifesteal item ? I feel like skipping Sparkforged Dagger (the yellow electric blade) would sacrifice Allain's dmg a bit too much in the mid game, same goes for the mov spd considering you also used the lifesteal arcana instead of the mov spd ones
@@youagain8447 armor boots, blazing cape then depends if enemy is heavy burst then i go w/ bloodweep tier item (forgot name) then straight cuirass or if not burst or u're confident in dueling better just buy the guantlet (teir for cuirass) and go straight bloodweeper. Rest of the items are just usual items for allain depend on game. U really want the cuirass every game bc u lose a ton of movespd from reaver arcana
@@jsb5479 Thanks, i'll give it a try. This build might matches with my gameply better than his standard build since i really, REALLY struggle with Allain's sustain after a fight in mid-late game. Maybe i'm just too used to Ata or Biron that could regen all their HP back after a teamfight and be ready for the next fight without recalling back to base
Always has mixed experience with Allain. On paper he is very good, like he has heal, sustain, atk speed, untargetable escape / engage, immune cc, dash, verstaile item build. On practice, often his heal does not procs on time, his damage is on the 'almost enough' side, sometimes you are a tanky fighter, sometimes your stack and heal does not procs on time require you to early recall. Still trying to figure out his preferred playstyle (due to how flexible his item and arcana build).
@@ValentinoNicko If i may share a tip on triggering his heal more consistently, try to hit his Skill 2's dash on your target whenever you engage, even better if you hit minions along the way. Generally, the usual combo of 2 - 3 basic atk - 1 is able to proc his heal as long as you hit that Skill 2 at the start
Allain is very strong but his play pattern is quite different from other clash laners so he takes some time to get used to. In short, he is very strong in short (3 stack S1) and extended trades (full passive stack). You want to S2 and go for a 3 stack S1 then back off (if you don't want to commit to a fight) or go for a long fight (max passive stacks) because the heal and damage reduction + pen from max passive stacks make extended duels very favorable for him. But any decent clash lane main knows they won't beat Allain in an extended fight, so you have to learn to bait them into fighting you. Also, there are 2 people you should always avoid dueling alone in the early game as Allain, which is Arthur and Dun. You just don't win any trades against them early on unless they are really bad. Biron is kind of a counter too, but its one you can play around and beat.
@@AM063094 He's also countered by mid-long ranged Clash Laners that could farm the minions safely like Heino and Domination (gold) Li Xin. That's because i noticed that in slower games where barely any fights happened and everyone just farms nonstop, picking him feels really bad. In case of both Heino and Li Xin, Allain can't really reach them unless he used ult, which even then isn't guaranteeing a kill for him. On the other hand, he'll get peppered by their spells during the laning stage, chipping his HP bit-by-bit without him being able to proc his heal. If that continued, he'll be under-farmed and basically become easy pickings during the later parts of the game because he won't be tanky enough nor deal enough dmg
@@youagain8447 Yea, they are tough match ups for Allain. Against Heino, I just focus on dodging / staying healthy and last hitting (or staying in xp/gold range if cant last hit). Don't position yourself in the wave, so Heino has to choose between trying to S1 you or the minions and focus on dodging it. Whenever he miss you with the S1, then you have a few seconds to walk up and hit the wave. You will be pushed in against him which will allow the Heino to roam a lot. Fortunately, Heino roams are not strong since he has no cc so just ping missing if he leaves lane and hope your team don't die to his roam. Dueling Heino is a lost cause since he just out sustains you with his melee form. If the opportunity arises, you can impact / roam the map else where or take enemy jungle. Ranged Li Xin is even more difficult since he can constantly harass you. But he will also be pushed in to you, so ping or hope your jungle notices this and gank him a lot.
I main Allain and currently in GM 27*. I used to build him with Sparkforged Dagger but opt to full tank item since there's usually a squishy Roam getting picked most of the time and I'm the only one who's need to tank team fights unless the Jungler also built tank items. I can see the difference in lane clearing but for solo queue, i might use tankier items just to play it safe. Nice vid btw.
Hi kyoui i like your videos, I've a question about Allain, is safe to pick it in jungle? Because i test it with tank jg item and its pretty good but i dont know if i trolling
His early game is a lot better than i thought for a supposed late-game hero. Thanks to the heal proc from his passive, i always tried to be as aggresive as possible during early levels by engaging my lane opponent first. By doing that, i often managed to fill up his Fury quickly and proc the heal, basically winning the dmg trade. In some cases, it also made my opponent play too passively because they were suprised with my dmg even if their heroes were supposed to beat me in early game like Biron or Heino
I love using him, probably the only hero where i just bought his (EWC) skin without a second thought. I also hope more AoV heroes come to HoK. Like Florentino.
hi, can i ask what brand/type of device you use? mine can only run on 60 fps with medium graphic and high quality hero's gorge, but yours is 90 fps and the graphic look so good 😅. great video as always! thxx.
Do you have problems with the attack priority system? Because for me for some reason it's prioritizing creeps more than heroes and it's a nuisance when I'm trying to clash and the hero lock system doesn't even work properly like it just cancels the lock immediately
Idk, I'm more used to ML's priority system that normal basic attack button prioritizes heroes to give purpose to the minion and tower button so I've been cycling over the 3 targeting systems in HOK and somehow all of them still have times that the basic attack button target creeps instead of heroes during clashes.
@@kyouitv well then reduce your gameplay fps to 60,and record on 60fps, it's mandatory for moba gameplay videos. Lower your setting too if your phone can't keep up. We don't need fancy grapichs, bcs first of all 60fps is what more important
@@Radetzky. The 60fps on the record is what makes your phone burn not the game itself Like I literally don't have any prob running the game with 60 or 90fps
@@kyouitv😂 oh yeah right But why did you choose sprint as the talent and not flash? Kyoui, is it good if I pick Sun Ce against clash lane dun, roaming Wuyan (on clash lane lol), and jungle Musashi? Or should I pick different hero?
@@kyouitv so... Ata? I picked Biron 😂 I forgot he's not a tank Yeah there's a roam tank Lian Po but he never went to Clash lane. Pei helped me but the result was... Yeah I mean I didn't expect that Wuyan to be in Clash lane lol
Really u cant 1v1 dun? Bcoz your sub skill and build is not good for tank.. i main allain and and top 1% asia i dont recommend your subskill and build.. you only got kill bcoz you kill steal or you just rely on your allies but honestly speaking u cant go alone and 1v1 someone thats why u cant push.. your team carry you.. your not good in allain so stop pretending u know about allain...
To be fair, Dun vs Allain laning matchup depends on who get to jump the other one first during that early levels, so the matchup is pretty shaky and doesn't really favor either of them. Allain might have a slight advantage with his heal not being tied to his current HP, but Dun's heal a lot more when it's triggered and he also has Skill 2's shields to help block some of Allain's dmg if the user doesn't use it randomly to clear waves. Also, what's your set for Allain ? He's pretty flexible in theory, but i've only met him being used with the standard set in this vid. It'll be interesting if there are other sets that made his gameplay a bit different
Like I said in the video allain is a scaling hero and prioritizing team effort is his strength You probably didn't know even in tournament he is also like that lol Top 1% asia in what tier?
I have 359 games with allain and i think u dont know how to face dun. U clearly are just using the pro builds against dun u should have always the ítem that makes damage x the 8% hp of the enemy. Lol
One cool thing i like about him is 25% of physical lifesteal is converted into magic & true dmg. With enough lifesteal u can heal from blazing cape burn, execute true dmg and any magic/true dmg. With 41% lifesteal from bloodweeper + weaver arcana the sustain is super crazy. Sometimes i go frenzy spell but most of the time just flash/sprint. Not to mention you can play more aggressively since u have crazy sustain. Only downside is u lose 10% movespd from arcana which is very big
The bloodweeper heal passive is also a + but need to play more safely against heavy ganks like nakoruru or musashi
@@jsb5479 What's the build order ? Blazing Cape is obviously the mandatory 1st item, but did you immedieately rush Bloodweaper as 2nd item or just the 2nd tier lifesteal item ?
I feel like skipping Sparkforged Dagger (the yellow electric blade) would sacrifice Allain's dmg a bit too much in the mid game, same goes for the mov spd considering you also used the lifesteal arcana instead of the mov spd ones
@@youagain8447 armor boots, blazing cape then depends if enemy is heavy burst then i go w/ bloodweep tier item (forgot name) then straight cuirass or if not burst or u're confident in dueling better just buy the guantlet (teir for cuirass) and go straight bloodweeper. Rest of the items are just usual items for allain depend on game. U really want the cuirass every game bc u lose a ton of movespd from reaver arcana
@@jsb5479 Thanks, i'll give it a try. This build might matches with my gameply better than his standard build since i really, REALLY struggle with Allain's sustain after a fight in mid-late game. Maybe i'm just too used to Ata or Biron that could regen all their HP back after a teamfight and be ready for the next fight without recalling back to base
@@jsb5479hmm what if on the arcana u replace a couple of the reavers with hunt so you dont lose too much movement speed? Might be good
Always has mixed experience with Allain. On paper he is very good, like he has heal, sustain, atk speed, untargetable escape / engage, immune cc, dash, verstaile item build.
On practice, often his heal does not procs on time, his damage is on the 'almost enough' side, sometimes you are a tanky fighter, sometimes your stack and heal does not procs on time require you to early recall.
Still trying to figure out his preferred playstyle (due to how flexible his item and arcana build).
@@ValentinoNicko If i may share a tip on triggering his heal more consistently, try to hit his Skill 2's dash on your target whenever you engage, even better if you hit minions along the way. Generally, the usual combo of 2 - 3 basic atk - 1 is able to proc his heal as long as you hit that Skill 2 at the start
Allain is very strong but his play pattern is quite different from other clash laners so he takes some time to get used to.
In short, he is very strong in short (3 stack S1) and extended trades (full passive stack). You want to S2 and go for a 3 stack S1 then back off (if you don't want to commit to a fight) or go for a long fight (max passive stacks) because the heal and damage reduction + pen from max passive stacks make extended duels very favorable for him. But any decent clash lane main knows they won't beat Allain in an extended fight, so you have to learn to bait them into fighting you.
Also, there are 2 people you should always avoid dueling alone in the early game as Allain, which is Arthur and Dun. You just don't win any trades against them early on unless they are really bad. Biron is kind of a counter too, but its one you can play around and beat.
@@AM063094 He's also countered by mid-long ranged Clash Laners that could farm the minions safely like Heino and Domination (gold) Li Xin. That's because i noticed that in slower games where barely any fights happened and everyone just farms nonstop, picking him feels really bad.
In case of both Heino and Li Xin, Allain can't really reach them unless he used ult, which even then isn't guaranteeing a kill for him. On the other hand, he'll get peppered by their spells during the laning stage, chipping his HP bit-by-bit without him being able to proc his heal. If that continued, he'll be under-farmed and basically become easy pickings during the later parts of the game because he won't be tanky enough nor deal enough dmg
@@youagain8447 Yea, they are tough match ups for Allain.
Against Heino, I just focus on dodging / staying healthy and last hitting (or staying in xp/gold range if cant last hit). Don't position yourself in the wave, so Heino has to choose between trying to S1 you or the minions and focus on dodging it. Whenever he miss you with the S1, then you have a few seconds to walk up and hit the wave. You will be pushed in against him which will allow the Heino to roam a lot. Fortunately, Heino roams are not strong since he has no cc so just ping missing if he leaves lane and hope your team don't die to his roam. Dueling Heino is a lost cause since he just out sustains you with his melee form. If the opportunity arises, you can impact / roam the map else where or take enemy jungle.
Ranged Li Xin is even more difficult since he can constantly harass you. But he will also be pushed in to you, so ping or hope your jungle notices this and gank him a lot.
1. Nutcracker Knight
2. Wolf-Gang Dual Sword
3. EWC - Heavenblade
4. Black Swordsman - Kirito (Version 1: Sword Art Online - Aincrad)
5. Alicazation - Kirito (Version 2: Sword Art Online - War Of Underworld)
Thanks to him I reached Grandmaster i use execute to tower dive and kill secure the enemy
I main Allain and currently in GM 27*. I used to build him with Sparkforged Dagger but opt to full tank item since there's usually a squishy Roam getting picked most of the time and I'm the only one who's need to tank team fights unless the Jungler also built tank items. I can see the difference in lane clearing but for solo queue, i might use tankier items just to play it safe. Nice vid btw.
Hi kyoui i like your videos, I've a question about Allain, is safe to pick it in jungle? Because i test it with tank jg item and its pretty good but i dont know if i trolling
His jungle clearing kinda sucks
And he is really not designed for the jungle
His early game is a lot better than i thought for a supposed late-game hero. Thanks to the heal proc from his passive, i always tried to be as aggresive as possible during early levels by engaging my lane opponent first.
By doing that, i often managed to fill up his Fury quickly and proc the heal, basically winning the dmg trade. In some cases, it also made my opponent play too passively because they were suprised with my dmg even if their heroes were supposed to beat me in early game like Biron or Heino
Skill Effect | Allain EWC • Heavenblade
(HOK × EWC)
Skill Effect | Allain Blackswordsman • Kirito (HOK × SAO)
I’ve been using crit arcana + crit and lifesteal build, works extremely well for comeback in fights and you can one shot back line in team fights.
But u would also get one shot with that build lol
Team Gamer
Lam - T-Rex
Allain - Kirito
Charlotte - Hexsword
Musashi - Hexsword
Butterfly - Asuna
I love using him, probably the only hero where i just bought his (EWC) skin without a second thought.
I also hope more AoV heroes come to HoK. Like Florentino.
I also really like that EWC skin. I was really hoping it'd be free since I cannot afford it. Sad to see they won't sell it for limited time tokens.
That Dun dont know how plat Dun
When you use sprint, flicker or execute ?
@@muhamadirfanramadhani9844 flicker or sprint will do
hi, can i ask what brand/type of device you use? mine can only run on 60 fps with medium graphic and high quality hero's gorge, but yours is 90 fps and the graphic look so good 😅. great video as always! thxx.
Poco x3 gt
What are the item for tank build Allain
It's already in the video
1. Nutcracker Knight
2. Wolf-Gang Dual Sword
3. EWC - Heavenblade
4. Kirito Version 1
5. Kirito Version 2
6. Hữu Thọ Version 1
7. Hữu Thọ Version 2
What is a good support pick if I’m up against 3 tanks clash, exp, and jungle?
Donghuang will be good if you have a good burst hero against them
Ok Thank you
@@kyouitvbut if there's no burst hero in our team. And there's princess frost on enemy. Is ZhuangZhi good?
@@eleven11three yah he is pretty good
can you make an ukyo jg/clash guide?
I'm actually working on it
@@kyouitv awesome
Do you have problems with the attack priority system? Because for me for some reason it's prioritizing creeps more than heroes and it's a nuisance when I'm trying to clash and the hero lock system doesn't even work properly like it just cancels the lock immediately
Have you tried changing the control in setting?
Is it not working ?
Probably in your settings?
Like prioritizing low health target
Idk, I'm more used to ML's priority system that normal basic attack button prioritizes heroes to give purpose to the minion and tower button so I've been cycling over the 3 targeting systems in HOK and somehow all of them still have times that the basic attack button target creeps instead of heroes during clashes.
can u play arli, di renji, and sun shang xiang?
Sure
I know I'm late but how his heal work I don't really understand
@@ricardo_3246 if you full his rage bar he will get heal every time you use his skills or basic attack
But it has a cooldown on it
@kyouitv thanks but I think I never see him heal ever I used his skills with full rage
@@ricardo_3246 his heal is quite unnoticeable
But he actually heals when his rage bar is full
@@kyouitv I see now thanks
Right after you took down their dian wei and dun... pretty much win.. except that Loong is annoying
too many knockbacks thou
@@kyouitv you is too many melee knockup.. his is long range knockback xD
sad life of Heino hahah
When using Allain and the enemy Marco is very difficult, does Marco counter Allain?
Depends on how you can catch marco
So who counter Allain pretty well in clash lane ?
Biron
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My favorite hero, with tank build he could Survive in 1v5 situation.
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Also he has a Nice Face
You like his face
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setup your screen recording to 60 fps bro/ the gameplay is not enjoyable to watch bcs its not 60 fps even though your in game setting is set to 90 fps
I don't usually wanna burn the phone
@@kyouitv well then reduce your gameplay fps to 60,and record on 60fps, it's mandatory for moba gameplay videos. Lower your setting too if your phone can't keep up. We don't need fancy grapichs, bcs first of all 60fps is what more important
@@Radetzky. The 60fps on the record is what makes your phone burn not the game itself
Like I literally don't have any prob running the game with 60 or 90fps
Play with the cooler, or fan. Just telling here, if you're not improving the videos quality, it'll hinder your yt career progression a lot
@@Radetzky. I tried but It's very uncomfortable thou
Man i go crit build 😂 is it good?
@@Isagiuzumaki891 too squishy
Whats your arcana?
It's already in the video
@@kyouitv😂 oh yeah right
But why did you choose sprint as the talent and not flash?
Kyoui, is it good if I pick Sun Ce against clash lane dun, roaming Wuyan (on clash lane lol), and jungle Musashi?
Or should I pick different hero?
@@eleven11three sprint is good for chasing down and landing your 1st easily
Sun ce is fine, but you need a tanky hero in your team
@@kyouitv so... Ata? I picked Biron 😂 I forgot he's not a tank
Yeah there's a roam tank Lian Po but he never went to Clash lane. Pei helped me but the result was... Yeah
I mean I didn't expect that Wuyan to be in Clash lane lol
@@eleven11three yeah you need something tanky in your roamer or jungler
arcana help please
Items and arcana are already in the video
Lakas ni Allain
Really u cant 1v1 dun? Bcoz your sub skill and build is not good for tank.. i main allain and and top 1% asia i dont recommend your subskill and build.. you only got kill bcoz you kill steal or you just rely on your allies but honestly speaking u cant go alone and 1v1 someone thats why u cant push.. your team carry you.. your not good in allain so stop pretending u know about allain...
To be fair, Dun vs Allain laning matchup depends on who get to jump the other one first during that early levels, so the matchup is pretty shaky and doesn't really favor either of them. Allain might have a slight advantage with his heal not being tied to his current HP, but Dun's heal a lot more when it's triggered and he also has Skill 2's shields to help block some of Allain's dmg if the user doesn't use it randomly to clear waves.
Also, what's your set for Allain ? He's pretty flexible in theory, but i've only met him being used with the standard set in this vid. It'll be interesting if there are other sets that made his gameplay a bit different
Like I said in the video allain is a scaling hero and prioritizing team effort is his strength
You probably didn't know even in tournament he is also like that lol
Top 1% asia in what tier?
I have 359 games with allain and i think u dont know how to face dun. U clearly are just using the pro builds against dun u should have always the ítem that makes damage x the 8% hp of the enemy. Lol
You can but I prefer having a fast clearing item