Most women looksmax most men don't because looks for men wasn't that important. Until now. But society still hasn't adapted to this and old messages and advices still carry on. Having blackpill knowledge and understanding the female gaze can place you ahead of the curve before this becomes mainstream and most men start to looksmax which will inevitably happen at some point.
This is straight men's bias. It doesn't help that women are incredibly picky too. But as a gay man i dont get it , at least half of all males are decent looking, it's just that women need more than looks, they want the whole package, leader traits is what they want. Are women more attractive than men? NOt to me! Men can be top tier in attractiveness without a single artifitial enhancement, just gym and a nice beard, women instead, the top tiers always have something like makeup or surgery, very rare to find a girl so beautiful that doesn't need at least shaving or some makeup, is like a female peacock trying to put male feathers.
bullshit. I think looks maxing maybe important eventually but I believe that it most of the world, especially outside of wealthy western countries resources are the most important for men. Actually even in "developed" countries wealthy men still retain their advantage, multiple studies point to this. Looks maxing will be the best strategy when men can charge women the same amount of money for sex which is just not the case at this point...it may never be.
As someone who has worked in a large grocery store, in one of the largest cities in America, in one of the most popular departments, (produce), I have come across many of your average real world people during my shifts. There are definitely way more objectively good looking women than objectively good looking guys out there.
99% chance it's down to men not caring abt cosmetics as much as women. it also doesn't help that the most common negative affliction in terms of looks (small chin, overweight) impacts men's attractiveness more than women's.
@@chandramoulimukherjee7161 Male. Doesn’t matter though. Our produce department was right next to our curbside department. Our curbside department was like 70% college aged girls. I was acquainted with quite a few of them, and alot of them told me they RARELY saw attractive male customers when they do their runs (shopping all over the store). Meanwhile, us produce guys would alway comment on how we saw “baddie” customers on a consistent basis.
@@aAverageFan avreage women look better than avreage man yeah I know , but am saying that a below average looking could look good untill you remeve the makeup.
The reality is we men, due to our lack of control, lust after women to an extent that we eulogize the female form and esp the femal face and out then in a pedestal.
So, to be attractive a man has to have a baby face? I don't understand. I'm not attracted to the fact that they look like girls. And it makes no sense to say that women are more attractive than men because they are different, there is no point in comparing. It can be said that one woman is more attractive than another but not a man and a woman. And not all women with girlish features are pretty. Not all boys with angular features are handsome either. There are many types of faces. A woman with an hourglass body has a better body than me, if she said she had a better body than a man it wouldn't make sense. They are different bodies, why compare? There are men more attractive than women, but if the majority of women wear makeup and flashier clothes, they attract more attention than men.
Another neoteny fact is voice, women's voice's are more high pitched and sound similar to a boy's voice before he reaches puberty and testosterone boost
That girl from Wednesday is a good example thr blond girl is seen as cute and adorable if you have a high pitch voice as a guy you gotta be bullied relentlessly
Women can look any way and get a man who wants to have sex but not a "good" man. Men want sex more than they want wholesome relationships that shows in how only fans models make so much money. Women want good providers.
i realized it's over for me when i saw there's no neoteny in my face. if only my face was more sexually dimorphed into feminine or atleast cool looking it would have been good.
@@xtragum6810same but everyone still think i look way younger than i am. i don’t even much facial fat either so i’m really struggling to see what it is that makes me look young
It annoys me so much that simply having a smoother and more youthful look is equated to being more feminine even on men to so many people. How's that feminine if the face and body shape is still with the typical male proportions? That being more attractive to women is used as evidence that women are more attractive since what's considered feminine is a more popular look on men to women. This difference of how much more often one gender is thought more attractive is one of the reasons I'm staying single.
Humans are especially more neotenous than other _primates_ . I think when comparing completely all mammals, I'm not sure if we would be the most neotenous
Although the video talks about neoteny, if it's not too "narrow" a topic, I'd love to see a video discussing the effects of make-up on SMV. I'm firmly convinced that incels are being born to sub-5 females and 6+ men in every generation, but those ugly females are hiding their true hideousness under makeup. Just search up "famous women with and without makeup" and see for yourself. Even most women in their early 20s wouldn't get a second look from _any of us_ if they were walking around without makeup. There's a reason for the old saying "seeing a woman without her face on" and why it was considered such a violation. Incels are being produced by gross-looking women hiding their physical ugliness and _that_ needs to be called out. It also explains why there are relatively few femcels (there would be more--possibly as many as men--were it not for makeup).
One more thing I would like to say is that fat gain on woman is much better than a fat gain on man ...if a woman gets slight chubbier she gets curvy which is attractive and work on their favour fat b**bs , fat hips still favour them but quiet opposite for a man imagine man having big b**bs , wide hips he would look nowhere as good as moderate fat woman...for a man you gotta stay under 20%bf to look attractive while woman's curvy range starts from 25%, bf lol
many womens curves being largely fat makes it difficult for me to enjoy female beauty as much as I want and is a reason I'm staying single, as well as women being thought more attractive to more people of both genders. Fat isn't a material that gives a stable body shape, but very loose material stored in it and meant to be absorbed. It isn't a body part. It upsets me to think there isn't as much of a butt on men compared to women and often much less in the chest area of men compared to breasts for women to enjoy seeing.
Many people say the male body can't be as attractive because womens curves are usually much more prominent than the same places on males, so there's more to enjoy seeing. They say there's more variety of ways women can look attractive because of that and that curves just look better than male body types. It makes no sense to think female features are innately more attractive because beauty is subjective. Mens features are meant to attract women too. There's as much variation in proportions that are commonly thought attractive on men as women. Many desired traits can be conditioned to feel that much attraction for. It's why breasts are thought something obscene and so arousing in some countries, but others treat them just like mens chests. Why did more revealing clothes only go out of style for men, but women have continued to have much more body conforming and revealing clothes? Women haven't shown as much interest in seeing the same areas exposed on men that most men like to see on women. This lack of sexual interest from them having made sexualization historically uneven for the genders is a reason I'm staying single. That and many womens curves being largely fat makes it difficult for me to enjoy female beauty as much as I want and has given me depression. Fat isn't a material that gives a stable body shape, but very loose material stored in it and meant to be absorbed. It isn't a body part. It upsets me to think there isn't as much of a butt on men compared to women and often much less in the chest area of men compared to breasts for women to enjoy seeing.
@@RobertNeDlro to say men find women with baby face more attractive becaise of feritilty doesnt make sense. Babies are not fertile they are babies they cant birth children since they're babies this is so creepy and disturbing.
With time we all age horribly. Woman have a lower threshold because once they pass 33 they no longer can give birth as safely as they once could. Man usually are only seen as “more” attractive with age because man reach the core of their wealth by 45-65
actually in the animal kingdom males are more attractive, and honestly in humans too, it is just that humans find more pleasant to see women than men cause man trigger a flight or fight response, whereas women don't.
"actually in the animal kingdom males are more attractive," and many females in other species are more attractive too. not all species are the same. humans are the only species on earth to be selectively chosen to be cognitive, so treat them as the outlier they are. sexual dimorphism is limited in humans. most women must resort to being attracted to status, while most men are attracted to most women and fixate more on their looks. neotenous looking people are on average more objectively physically attractive to most people than masculine ones. clearly theres something else to the story that people and academia is refusing to acknowledge. they are deluding themselves to believe than men and women are equal and its hurting science and any actual progress to fix these issues that nature created. it benefits the lefts delusion of everyone being equal and it benefits the rights delusion of women not being better than men. its surprising how this is such a big thing that is seemingly not talked about anywhere, and i wish for more discussion about it. masculinity implies danger, which activates disdain. it does not activate a maternal instinct like neoteny does. i wish for an concise evolutionary explanation as to why women took the route of being inherently more physically attractive rather than men. EDIT: it may be because men are stronger than women. women must resort to other means of attraction due to being non-utile and unimportant, moreover the men that actually find women attractive are the ones that passed on their genes. meanwhile i personally believe they seem to have taken the same route as babies in being preferred as attractive. since babies are already seen as attractive, women both evolve to copy the same inherent trait babies have and simultaneously are seen as more inherently attractive to men.
Hello guys I have been mewing for around 3 months it has made my face worse I was pretty average or where I live I was above average But after mewing my jaw expands and it doesn't harmonize with my other feature my forehead is narrow so it gives me a pear face shape look which looks very bad. So if anyone wants to do mewing make sure you are ready for both bad orr good results I posted on reddit ortrophics they deleted my post I don't know why so yeah there's not really community t support those whose faces have been destroyed by mewing
Women have makeup that can make them look better, but men have facial hair that can make them look better. Neither sex is objectively more attractive than the other.
facial hair doesnt make you look better. it may be true that in some cases it hides flaws in the jaw area, but its in no way comparable to makeup which can hide almost all possible flaws.
@PremiuM3 you're wrong my friend. women are more attractive then men. I will bring an argument: just look that even (slightly bellow!) average women will prefere too be picked-up by another woman, rather then a normie guy! normie guy is not enough anymore. normie in men means invisible
Subsharan African women may display a lower degree of neoteny, just like the men. However, on men lower degrees of neoteny are usually desired by the average woman, while higher lower of neoteny on men is more often desired. This is also why a lot of men prefer blonde women, as lighter hair color is also neotenic, whilst most women on average do not prefer light hair on men. Of course these are just averages, but it's useful to understand how averages work I'd say.
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Most women looksmax most men don't because looks for men wasn't that important. Until now. But society still hasn't adapted to this and old messages and advices still carry on.
Having blackpill knowledge and understanding the female gaze can place you ahead of the curve before this becomes mainstream and most men start to looksmax which will inevitably happen at some point.
already happening in Korea, the vast majority of men there put on makeup
"Most women looksmax most men don't because looks for men wasn't that important. Until now. "
Like the dismantling of the patri-andriarchy.
Huh? Most women are overweight. Makeup doesn’t mean ur more attractive.
This is straight men's bias.
It doesn't help that women are incredibly picky too.
But as a gay man i dont get it , at least half of all males are decent looking, it's just that women need more than looks, they want the whole package, leader traits is what they want.
Are women more attractive than men?
NOt to me!
Men can be top tier in attractiveness without a single artifitial enhancement, just gym and a nice beard, women instead, the top tiers always have something like makeup or surgery, very rare to find a girl so beautiful that doesn't need at least shaving or some makeup, is like a female peacock trying to put male feathers.
bullshit. I think looks maxing maybe important eventually but I believe that it most of the world, especially outside of wealthy western countries resources are the most important for men. Actually even in "developed" countries wealthy men still retain their advantage, multiple studies point to this. Looks maxing will be the best strategy when men can charge women the same amount of money for sex which is just not the case at this point...it may never be.
As someone who has worked in a large grocery store, in one of the largest cities in America, in one of the most popular departments, (produce), I have come across many of your average real world people during my shifts.
There are definitely way more objectively good looking women than objectively good looking guys out there.
Makeup can make a big difference.
Are you male or female ?
99% chance it's down to men not caring abt cosmetics as much as women. it also doesn't help that the most common negative affliction in terms of looks (small chin, overweight) impacts men's attractiveness more than women's.
@@chandramoulimukherjee7161 Male.
Doesn’t matter though. Our produce department was right next to our curbside department. Our curbside department was like 70% college aged girls. I was acquainted with quite a few of them, and alot of them told me they RARELY saw attractive male customers when they do their runs (shopping all over the store).
Meanwhile, us produce guys would alway comment on how we saw “baddie” customers on a consistent basis.
Women be having better jawlines than men these days. Especially within the Zoomer generation
The rise of pretty boys is definitely making up some of this gap
Pretty boys some muscular features
@@rohitnayak9952*chads
Makeup is definitely a big factor
Cope
Women look better than men even without makeup.
@@aAverageFan avreage women look better than avreage man yeah I know , but am saying that a below average looking could look good untill you remeve the makeup.
@@aAverageFan not bodily though height, muscles, less bf
@@aAverageFan what about with no clothes on?? men don't have celulites, stretch marks, flaccidity and we don't age like women.
The reality is we men, due to our lack of control, lust after women to an extent that we eulogize the female form and esp the femal face and out then in a pedestal.
Yeah we rate women higher cuz we have lower standards. Women aren’t better looking than men lmao.
So, to be attractive a man has to have a baby face? I don't understand. I'm not attracted to the fact that they look like girls. And it makes no sense to say that women are more attractive than men because they are different, there is no point in comparing. It can be said that one woman is more attractive than another but not a man and a woman. And not all women with girlish features are pretty. Not all boys with angular features are handsome either. There are many types of faces. A woman with an hourglass body has a better body than me, if she said she had a better body than a man it wouldn't make sense. They are different bodies, why compare? There are men more attractive than women, but if the majority of women wear makeup and flashier clothes, they attract more attention than men.
Another neoteny fact is voice, women's voice's are more high pitched and sound similar to a boy's voice before he reaches puberty and testosterone boost
That girl from Wednesday is a good example thr blond girl is seen as cute and adorable if you have a high pitch voice as a guy you gotta be bullied relentlessly
That's why shounen shows cast women to VA their teenage boy characters.
Women can look anyway and still get a man easily. Not the same for men. You must be tall and attractive as a man.
That's only in the west. Unattractive men have no trouble getting married in other parts of the world.
Yeah no. A 2/10 woman with no body parts ain't getting jack shit
Especially if the man is from another category than the woman is, like another social class, ethnic, or racial background, then his looks matter 110%.
They can get a man for sex but not all can get a relationship
Women can look any way and get a man who wants to have sex but not a "good" man. Men want sex more than they want wholesome relationships that shows in how only fans models make so much money. Women want good providers.
And the masculine women will shine in a homosexual relationship.
Yessss!!
And bisexual/straight relationships 😅 (rarely) 😏
Duh...just because a women doesn't have baby features.. doesn't make them gay..
Doesn't that constitute rape?
@@456loveluck I'm a bisexual woman and I don't find masculine women sexy at all, it's disgusting.
i realized it's over for me when i saw there's no neoteny in my face. if only my face was more sexually dimorphed into feminine or atleast cool looking it would have been good.
same, my face is so masculine as a girl. Wide jaw, small eyes, big nose, thick eyebrows.. im done 😭
@@xtragum6810 Surgery Maxx. This is a horrible combo. Atleast I hope you're light skinned with a good figure and height.
@@xtragum6810you should breed with a neotenous man so it will balance out. Me for example
@@xtragum6810same but everyone still think i look way younger than i am. i don’t even much facial fat either so i’m really struggling to see what it is that makes me look young
It annoys me so much that simply having a smoother and more youthful look is equated to being more feminine even on men to so many people. How's that feminine if the face and body shape is still with the typical male proportions? That being more attractive to women is used as evidence that women are more attractive since what's considered feminine is a more popular look on men to women. This difference of how much more often one gender is thought more attractive is one of the reasons I'm staying single.
Humans are especially more neotenous than other _primates_ . I think when comparing completely all mammals, I'm not sure if we would be the most neotenous
Although the video talks about neoteny, if it's not too "narrow" a topic, I'd love to see a video discussing the effects of make-up on SMV. I'm firmly convinced that incels are being born to sub-5 females and 6+ men in every generation, but those ugly females are hiding their true hideousness under makeup. Just search up "famous women with and without makeup" and see for yourself. Even most women in their early 20s wouldn't get a second look from _any of us_ if they were walking around without makeup.
There's a reason for the old saying "seeing a woman without her face on" and why it was considered such a violation. Incels are being produced by gross-looking women hiding their physical ugliness and _that_ needs to be called out. It also explains why there are relatively few femcels (there would be more--possibly as many as men--were it not for makeup).
No body needs to be called out for being ugly, try caring about other things besides aesthetics lmao
@@kermetthehog1237 you chose the wrong channel bud
@@beachslap7359 y'all chose the wrong belief
@@kermetthehog1237 and what belief would that be
That ugliness needs to be "called out" and that the only thing that matters is physical features.
One more thing I would like to say is that fat gain on woman is much better than a fat gain on man ...if a woman gets slight chubbier she gets curvy which is attractive and work on their favour fat b**bs , fat hips still favour them but quiet opposite for a man imagine man having big b**bs , wide hips he would look nowhere as good as moderate fat woman...for a man you gotta stay under 20%bf to look attractive while woman's curvy range starts from 25%, bf lol
many womens curves being largely fat makes it difficult for me to enjoy female beauty as much as I want and is a reason I'm staying single, as well as women being thought more attractive to more people of both genders. Fat isn't a material that gives a stable body shape, but very loose material stored in it and meant to be absorbed. It isn't a body part. It upsets me to think there isn't as much of a butt on men compared to women and often much less in the chest area of men compared to breasts for women to enjoy seeing.
Many people say the male body can't be as attractive because womens curves are usually much more prominent than the same places on males, so there's more to enjoy seeing. They say there's more variety of ways women can look attractive because of that and that curves just look better than male body types. It makes no sense to think female features are innately more attractive because beauty is subjective. Mens features are meant to attract women too. There's as much variation in proportions that are commonly thought attractive on men as women. Many desired traits can be conditioned to feel that much attraction for. It's why breasts are thought something obscene and so arousing in some countries, but others treat them just like mens chests. Why did more revealing clothes only go out of style for men, but women have continued to have much more body conforming and revealing clothes? Women haven't shown as much interest in seeing the same areas exposed on men that most men like to see on women. This lack of sexual interest from them having made sexualization historically uneven for the genders is a reason I'm staying single.
That and many womens curves being largely fat makes it difficult for me to enjoy female beauty as much as I want and has given me depression. Fat isn't a material that gives a stable body shape, but very loose material stored in it and meant to be absorbed. It isn't a body part. It upsets me to think there isn't as much of a butt on men compared to women and often much less in the chest area of men compared to breasts for women to enjoy seeing.
Why black pill or whatever doesn't talk about women attractiveness in men's eyes
Let's not forget women can boost themselves from a 4 to an 8 with makeup
@The Greg Show I'm talking about real life
Yes they can use Fakeup
atheltic body and a good haircut can boost a man from a 4 to an 8
@@leedlbagginshield8492 noo
@@leedlbagginshield8492 simply not true. makeup is way more versatile. have you ever seen a makeup "transformation"?
i think because they look more unoffensive due to the halo effect
the title in the video is not correct because beauty is depend on perspective i.e between men and women (for normal mind people)
I literally have female eyebrows lol.
Lately in your videos it sounds like you and your mic are not on the same town
I’ve been having some trouble sorry about that
So basically women are more attractive cause they have baby features 💀....
yea
young = fertile
@@RobertNeDlro to say men find women with baby face more attractive becaise of feritilty doesnt make sense. Babies are not fertile they are babies they cant birth children since they're babies this is so creepy and disturbing.
@@maliha3305 that's more cringe that you concluded to the young= baby
Young adults exists
And its scientifically proven
Young adults are fertile
@@nikumilotic1333 baby young adults? 💀
Feminine drag queens/boys/crossdressers 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
What about them?
Who age faster, who age well? Men or women?
With time we all age horribly. Woman have a lower threshold because once they pass 33 they no longer can give birth as safely as they once could. Man usually are only seen as “more” attractive with age because man reach the core of their wealth by 45-65
anyone who uses sunscreen will age better.
Long hair and makeup make them look better than they are.
actually in the animal kingdom males are more attractive, and honestly in humans too, it is just that humans find more pleasant to see women than men cause man trigger a flight or fight response, whereas women don't.
I have seen only about 3 to 4 gorgeous men in the wild in my entire life. sigh. Only 1 knockout 10.
"actually in the animal kingdom males are more attractive,"
and many females in other species are more attractive too. not all species are the same. humans are the only species on earth to be selectively chosen to be cognitive, so treat them as the outlier they are.
sexual dimorphism is limited in humans.
most women must resort to being attracted to status, while most men are attracted to most women and fixate more on their looks.
neotenous looking people are on average more objectively physically attractive to most people than masculine ones.
clearly theres something else to the story that people and academia is refusing to acknowledge. they are deluding themselves to believe than men and women are equal and its hurting science and any actual progress to fix these issues that nature created. it benefits the lefts delusion of everyone being equal and it benefits the rights delusion of women not being better than men. its surprising how this is such a big thing that is seemingly not talked about anywhere, and i wish for more discussion about it.
masculinity implies danger, which activates disdain. it does not activate a maternal instinct like neoteny does. i wish for an concise evolutionary explanation as to why women took the route of being inherently more physically attractive rather than men.
EDIT: it may be because men are stronger than women. women must resort to other means of attraction due to being non-utile and unimportant, moreover the men that actually find women attractive are the ones that passed on their genes. meanwhile i personally believe they seem to have taken the same route as babies in being preferred as attractive. since babies are already seen as attractive, women both evolve to copy the same inherent trait babies have and simultaneously are seen as more inherently attractive to men.
Hello guys I have been mewing for around 3 months it has made my face worse I was pretty average or where I live I was above average
But after mewing my jaw expands and it doesn't harmonize with my other feature my forehead is narrow so it gives me a pear face shape look which looks very bad. So if anyone wants to do mewing make sure you are ready for both bad orr good results
I posted on reddit ortrophics they deleted my post I don't know why so yeah there's not really community t support those whose faces have been destroyed by mewing
3 months of mewing could never change anybody’s face that much
@@cartiershades3392 I am young 17 it changed my jaw now it up to you to believe or not
@@cartiershades3392 now I don't have money as I live in third world country I'm messed up my whole youth messed up fuc**** shit
Nah man mewing ain’t that effective in just 3 months
@@cartiershades3392 okay privacy is issue otherwise I would have sent you pictures
This is such a brain dead take holy smokes.
Women have makeup that can make them look better, but men have facial hair that can make them look better. Neither sex is objectively more attractive than the other.
High on that copium
facial hair doesnt make you look better. it may be true that in some cases it hides flaws in the jaw area, but its in no way comparable to makeup which can hide almost all possible flaws.
@@Xrand But the fact that women use makeup doesn't matter because afterall you're competing against men not women other men don't use make up too ...
@@Xrand most of the time it will make you look better unless you have an 8/10 jawline (most guys dont have that)
@PremiuM3 you're wrong my friend.
women are more attractive then men.
I will bring an argument:
just look that even (slightly bellow!) average women will prefere too be picked-up by another woman, rather then a normie guy!
normie guy is not enough anymore.
normie in men means invisible
First view😊
ovER for Firstcels
@@aAverageFannever began
This video is biased and doesn’t make any sense.
European women are definitely attractive, Subsharan African women not that much
that's your opinion. I find all races of women attractive.
All of them are beautiful 🙄👩🏾🦱👩🏿🦲👩🏻🦰👱🏻♀️👩🏼👩🏾👩🏻👩🏽👩🏿👩🏻🦱👩🏻🦳👩🏾🦳👵🏾👩🏽🦱👩🏼🦲🧕🏽👩🏼🎤💃👳🏾♀️👸🏻
Subsharan African women may display a lower degree of neoteny, just like the men. However, on men lower degrees of neoteny are usually desired by the average woman, while higher lower of neoteny on men is more often desired. This is also why a lot of men prefer blonde women, as lighter hair color is also neotenic, whilst most women on average do not prefer light hair on men.
Of course these are just averages, but it's useful to understand how averages work I'd say.
african < white/hispanic < asian
them just the facts
Age terribly though
Wonen flop when they hit 30.
Men age better.
it depends
Nope. Most men go bald and get fat
@@BitchChill getting fat is something you can control
@@chimpe1727 It doesn't matter. It still happens to most people in general
@@BitchChill yes it does.its something you can control and your handicapping your bodies full potential.
It's good to be good looking!
is this channel just a @QOVESStudio copycat lmao?
Yes
@@neroangelo2028 💀oof
@@neroangelo2028no comments 😭😂😂