Stump Stools First Attempt (Amazon links in description)
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2016
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So I am trying to develop the best way to make these stump stools, and I think I figured out every wrong way to do them. Here are some things I have learned along the way:
1. Use logs that have already shed their bark, they will be drier and it will save a ton of work.
2. Do not use a wire wheel, it gouges the wood too much, then you spend a ton of time sanding out the gouges.
3. Spar urethane takes too many coats to build up a good layer. I later switched to epoxy.
4. When using epoxy, the end grain has to be sealed, either with several coats of urethane, or with wood filler. I tried both with mixed results.
The last 2 pictures in this video were finished with epoxy which gives it a beautiful thick, durable, wet-look coating.
Enjoy the video!
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With which product you have the finish
+Mustapha Elfakir I stained the wood first with Minwax penetrating stain. Then I sealed the wood with spar urethane. The topcoat is done with bartop epoxy. Sometimes I would skip the stain or the urethane depending on the look I was going for. Hope that helps!
thank you so match
@@SouthpawWorkshop I'm using a couple of stumps to make a fairy garden. I'll be leaving the bark on can I just use the epoxy or do I need another type sealnt?
I think your best bet would be the epoxy. Depending on the type of wood and when it was cut, it can be hard to keep the bark attached.
Did you have to season the wood? How is it holding up?
Love the background music and the reference for the tools listed in description, thank you!!
Absolutely love the music and you did a stand-up job on the video. Love that you are a Cardinal fan as well. Cheers!
definitely on my bucket list.
Nice video.....Great Job. I'm making a few to go around the pool. Thanks.
Thanks!
I might recommend getting an Arbortech Turboplaner. It will simplify debarking the stump
Good work!
U killed the soundtrack
Need to level them too, build a jig and use a router to ensure both sides are 100% level for a better end result!
Great job, looks awesome!
Awesome… thank you so much!
TotalBoat it is! I didn’t even know the stuff existed 😂❤
Damn you work fast!!! Lol
5:52 My hernia exploded just watching you! Nice job man!
Good job. But you missed a whole step after you stained it. How did you get the epoxy in it??
How bad of an idea would it be to do this to an entire tree? Had an oak tree fall right in the middle of another oak. Thinking about stripping it and leaving it there.
Nice job
Amazing. I always see stumps that big in my hood but all I see in them are Tikis. Good work!
How long was your piece drying? Did you have to put a sealing stain? Or can you go straight for the epoxy?
I really should do a follow-up to this video as I don't use many of these techniques anymore. To answer your question, you can do it either way, depending on the look you want. I have stained and sealed with urethane on some, I have also applied epoxy directly to the raw wood. It is easier to seal the end grain with something because if you don't, bubbles will form and it will ruin your epoxy finish. If you get bubbles, you can lightly sand the surface to even it out and apply a second coat of epoxy. I let the epoxy cure overnight for each coat, but it really depends on the brand and type you use.
Great job, i feel you when ever you pick up that stump.
And it was still wet! Oof!
thanks for the video, im about todo that with 5 of those, so i've definitely have my work cut out fro me. These logs have been through the weather so i hope i can bring them back to some life. Any ideas would be helpful thanks sir.
Usually, the effects of weather can be sanded out. Depends on how long they were exposed. Good luck!
Can we get an update? I know you said you dont use this method anymore but I wanted to know the status of your wood now ESPECIALLY since it was fresh cut and wet. I have two huge maple stumps that are a week old and I dont want to wait to dry them. PLEASE Help!
Chattmagic I wish I could tell you. These were made for a client and I have no idea how they aged. If I had to guess, they probably cracked as they dried out. Sealing it with urethane or epoxy would help slow the drying process though and may help prevent cracking.
@@SouthpawWorkshop Ok thanks. I dont care about cracking. but there are mixed reviews on using green wood.
Looking good. Im certain these will dry out and crack more. I always wondered if you could seal it enough to seal in all the moisture so it wont crack.
Only if it was super dry
Could you please tell me what stain you used as well what was in the sprayer?
I used various minwax stains. The red stain was a red mahogany stain. I used spar urethane in the sprayer, but I found that using epoxy for the topcoat worked better.
What did you paint it with first after sanding it down ? And what other coats you used on top of that? Thanks
In the video I used spar urethane. After that one I started using table top epoxy and it works really well.
Music was doper than dope! I have five pine stumps that i would like to convert to something. Might make four stump stools and use one as a chopping block!
Thank for the video. What was the drying process like? Can you tell us what you did and how long you waited before working on the stump?
Drying time varies depending on wood type and diameter of the stump and thickness of the cut. Stumps of this size would take a few years to completely dry out. I did not wait that long. In fact, a couple of these stumps were still green when I worked on them. Sealing a green log with some sort of finish whether it is a polyurethane or epoxy can lead to some good and some bad consequences. The good is that the stump will continue to dry out more slowly over time. This usually helps prevent cracking or checking of the wood. The downside is that the moisture trapped inside the stump will eventually ruin your finish as it works its way out of the wood. I try to mitigate this by leaving the underside of the stump unfinished and attaching feet to the underside to allow for airflow. If you try to dry your stump before finishing, expect to experience some heavy cracking which, if filled properly, can be a feature. You also should expect several years of drying time. Rule of thumb is 1 year per inch of thickness, but that is for hardwoods. Softer woods like pine and poplar dry out much quicker. I hope this information is helpful and good luck!
@@SouthpawWorkshop this is super helpful - appreciate the detailed response!
Great work and nice video. Can you kindly list the tools used and resin, varnish names? Thanks
The tools were fairly simple. Hammer and scraper to get the bark off. Wire wheel on an angle grinder was used also to get down to bare wood. I used a random orbit palm sander in some spots, belt sander to do some leveling. I originally used Helmsman spar urethane on the first couple, but have since moved to marine epoxy as it is easier to get that high gloss, wet look. Any 2 part marine epoxy will work, here is a link to a good quality, affordable one:
www.amazon.com/Crystal-Clear-Table-Coating-Tabletop/dp/B01LYK2NAG/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1508175761&sr=8-6&keywords=marine+epoxy
Thomas Lightle - Red Barn Woodworking - Thanks!
I was sincerely waiting that back door to fall off XD
How do you know if a stump is usable? We just cut down a ton of pine trees in our yard a few months ago & stump grinded yesterday. I have about 50 beautiful large slices of wood that are begging to become something useful. However it's raining today & some look a little "moldy" as is already? How do I differentiate between what's too far gone or not? How so I preserve the one's that aren't?
If you have the time, dry them out as slowly as you can. I would paint both cut ends with a latex paint and store them on their side under shelter and elevated off the ground. Problem with pine is that it is very wet and soft. Chances are good that even with the proper prep, you will still experience significant cracking throughout the logs as they dry. Good luck!
@@SouthpawWorkshop ty 4 the reply I plan on pigmented epoxy for cracks, so hopefully that won't be too much of a bothersome🤔 I am Having a pretty hard time finding any tutorials for live pine preservation & now I know why. Appreciate the advice! Wish me luck!
Off topic but your dog is soooo cute 🥰
Very nice bro i like it my friend :)
Could you please tell why did you use hardener and resin at 3:30?
To plug a hole in the stump to give me a flat surface on top.
How dry was the stump before you began coating it?
It should be completely dry before you start doing anything.
Try to dry it as slow as possible to prevent cracks.
I actually want to leave the bark on. What u think? Just add more epoxy to the bark right? Maybe lay flat and hit each side with epoxy. Flame up the resin and not the epoxy after pouring right?
+Lady T it can be difficult. If the wood is too wet, it will mess up the epoxy over time. Too dry and the bark will fall off on its own. I'd let the stump dry out really well without disturbing it. When ready, start pouring resin into the cracks and between the wood and the bark. Once that sets up, you can finish the top and do the final pour. It may take several pours to fill in the cracks and the space between the bark and wood. Let me know how it goes if you do try it.
Did you try it ?
Lovely
Holy shit that thing is heavy
Am I able to debark my stump when it is freshly cut and then leave outside to dry?
Yes, I would suggest using a drawknife to peel the bark when the stump is freshly cut. Difficulty of peeling the bark depends on the species of tree you are working on. Good luck!
How long had the stump been drying before you sealed it? I want to do this to 2 gorgeous red oak stumps, but they were cut down recently. Can you seal a log before it's cured 1-2 years?
To be honest, those stumps were pretty fresh when I did them. I don’t know how they fared over the years because I sold them shortly after making them. I could see one of two scenarios: either the interior moisture ends up ruining the finish and rotting the stump or the finish seals the stump and allows it to dry slowly without cracking. If you let the stump dry first, it will crack.
My log was chopped down recently and still pretty wet. Scraping out the bark is quite difficult. How long do I need to wait for it to dry out naturally? Cheers.
Logs take a long time to dry out. For best results, paint both cut ends of the log and store in a dry part of the house for about a year. Rule of thumb is 1 year per inch, but my experience is that it can dry out much quicker than that, especially if stored in a dry, air conditioned space. The purpose of the paint is to actually slow down the drying of the cut ends of the wood. If they dry out faster than the rest of the log, you will end up with huge cracks in the ends. Good luck!
@@SouthpawWorkshop Can you stain instead of paint the ends before it is dry?
The purpose of painting the ends is to slow the drying process so the wood won’t crack. Stain wouldn’t create the right type of barrier for that to happen
@@SouthpawWorkshop Thanks for the tip!
I know someone asked this before but I may have missed the answer. How long do you let the wood dry for? I have 6 stumps I just cut the 18” - 20”. 4 came from a tree cut down maybe 3 months ago. And 2 from a tree just cut today and want to know what’s a good amount of time to wait before digging into them, please
There is a tradeoff. The longer you dry them, the sturdier the finish will be. At the same time, the longer you dry them, the more cracks will appear. Having said that, the ones in the video were very green - less than 6 months old, and they have held up for more than a year. I suggest if you do make these with green stumps, you use a bar top or marine epoxy to finish them and not spar urethane. Good luck!
Thomas Lightle - Red Barn Woodworking I apologize for my inexperience. I’m not familiar with a lot of the terms. Sturdy finish? More cracks appearing in what? What’s very green referring to? Bar top marine epoxy? I need a book or video to watch about terms and techniques… lol. But I’m eager to learn and do this project well. Thank you for the fast response btw
As a stump dries out, it will crack. All wet wood does and it is inevitable - especially if it dries really fast. The drier the wood, the more stable it is, but as mentioned before, the more cracked it will be. Green just means wood that is freshly cut and not yet dried.The finish is what you will be coating the outside of your stump to protect it from the elements. For outdoor use, the choices tend to be limited to spar urethane or epoxy. Urethane will be more flexible, but is not as tough as epoxy. I started out making these with spar urethane, but since switched to the epoxy because I could easily get a thick, glossy layer with one pour vs. the many coats you would need to apply with urethane. Hope that helps!
I šta, napravio si panj? Bravo!
panj 2.0 novi i poboljšani!
Where do you get your stumps from I want to make one...you cut them yourself?
Sometimes I get them from neighbors who have cut down their trees. I also get them from landscape supply places that grind their own mulch. They bring the stumps in to grind them into mulch, sometimes if they are a nice species of wood, I'll buy a few off the owner.
Could you use epoxy to seal the log without having to remove the bark??
Definitely you could. Make sure you soak it in really well so the bark doesn’t fall off after a year or two
What did u use again to clear the bark reminants off? Angle grinder?
+Lady T I used a few things. I started by using a heavy duty scraper, then moved in to a wire wheel on an angle grinder. The angle grinder may have been a little too aggressive as it left deep marks on the surface of the stump. The slow and steady way is to peel the bark off by hand or with a chisel, then sand smooth.
We had a HUGE oak tree fall yesterday, on our property. As the tree people were cutting the tree into logs to hall off, we asked them if they would slice one of the logs about 3 inches thick. The diameter is about 3 feet and they graciously did it. Bless their hearts. (Incidentally, the stump was about 8 feet in diameter. Wow!)
We want to put finish on it that will protect it, since it will be bolted to another big tree; so we can put our names on it; and it can be seen as you drive up the driveway.
Can the author of this DIY video (or others) give us a step by step procedure; of how to prepare and finish this log; so that it would weather for yrs to come. Please, and thanks a million.
Hi Pat, as that oak slice dries out, it will want to crack since is it so thin. You may be able to keep the cracking to a minimum by painting both sides with a real thick coat of latex paint. Wood dries at about 1 year per inch, so a 3 inch slab should take about 3 years to air dry. You can speed that up with a kiln. My suggestion for a finish is either spar urethane or clear table top epoxy. Cheers!
@@SouthpawWorkshop Thank you Thomas
So, is it bad to seal a log like yours until it’s dry? We are cutting down trees soon and I’d like to seal some stumps to use as seating, but I have no way to dry a large stump.
It is not critical to dry out a stump before finishing it, but you should be aware of what will happen as the stump does dry out over time even with finish applied. The moisture could ruin the finish as it evaporates from the wood. This could cloud the finish, make it bubble up or crack it depending on what type of finish you use. As the stump dries out it will crack. If left untreated, these cracks will allow bugs and additional moisture in which would lead to rot. If the stump is being used indoors, it won’t be a serious concern, but if they are being used outdoors, you will want to reapply finish regularly to seal any new cracks that may form over time. Hope that helps!
I have a lot of pine logs downed my Hurricane Michael that the loggers didn't take. Looking for something to make out of them instead of just a giant bonfire.
I had a friend take a couple of pine trees down in his yard. They were killed by beetles. He took a chainsaw and split them down the middle and made benches out of them. Unfortunately, pine is so soft, there isn’t much else you can do with it.
is It possible to do this with a pine tree as well??
Sure!
Did you plan to use the stump stools outside y or indoor?
These were made for outdoor use.
Thanks.
How did you get the top and bottom cut completely level??
I didn’t. On these, I just eyeballed it. I used a router to flatten out some rough cuts, but that is it. If you are interested in a good flattening jig look up “Nick Offerman flattening jig” on google. You’ll find all the info you need there.
Thomas Lightle - Red Barn Woodworking ok thank you!
Is this pine or cedar wood stump?
Maple
How did you ensure the ends of the log were plumb and level?
I have a calibrated butt.
Thomas Lightle - Red Barn Woodworking What is a calibrated butt?
That's when you have enough junk in the trunk to prevent tipping over. Also known as "Bedunkadunk" to its African counterparts . Woodworkers should calibrate every weekend if possible. Just don't calibrate too much or you'll go broke in no time
Did you put the stump in your living room?
No, these were for a customer
How would cherry and oak stumps fare?
I think they would do great. And they would be beautiful
I was wondering how long it was going to take to figure out to put that plug in there before you put the resin in LOL nice job on the stool hey we should probably get together since we live so close to each other and do a couple of collaboration videos let me know what you think
+Opa's Workshop sure thing! We can work out the details through email. Tnlightle@gmail.com
Opa's Workshop did you do it ?
Can the bark not be saved?
The bark can be saved, but it largely depends on when the tree was cut down. It is easier to preserve the bark on trees that are cut down during the summer. All bark eventually will detach itself from the stump. but if you use a lot of epoxy or some other thick finish it will help the bark stay attached.
thats beautiful! do you sell em?
I did years ago, but not anymore
@@SouthpawWorkshop man id take em to a market in the city. those are beautiful and theyd last forever
Thanks!
What stuff did you use?
In the video I used spar urethane. Afterwards I started using pour-on epoxy. The only difference is with the epoxy, you have to be sure the wood is fairly dry.
@@SouthpawWorkshop wow man that's awesome
😁👍
Look at spot
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I would never trust myself with a hammer and chisel working on my truck tailgate.
why did you plug it and do you all tree trumps that way.
Just trying to reduce the amount of epoxy needed to fill the hole. Epoxy is expensive!
Would be nice for him to list what tools, sandpaper, and products he was using and how well they worked, etc
I did list the products used in the video. Check the description.
The music was NOT to my liking! (That's me being polite) so I just muted it. Video was fun and helped me out, THANKS!
Lol
Ok kelly
silence... music... silence...
The “free” music I used in the video all of a sudden became copyrighted 2 years after I published this video. The options were silence the newly copyrighted music or remove the video completely. Which would you have chosen?
Mate , your dog needs hearing protection.
First, young one, you need to straighten out the fins on the AC condenser. Doing this will help teach you patience. Second, young one, don't be a perfectionist on the first dozen or so. You'll thank me later.
Robert Cornelius I think I learned enough patience just reading your comment.
Robert Cornelius how old r u?
Dude is so old, back in his day rainbows were black and white. Dude so old he burps dust. This guy invented fire for petesakes
music is horrible