We won our freedom because the world stood with us ' Naledi Pandor on SA at the Hague

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  • Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
  • EWN anchor Kwazi Kwaza spoke to Naledi Pandor at ANC's gala dinner on Friday evening, 12 January 2024.

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  • @williamgoldstone9920
    @williamgoldstone9920 9 місяців тому +10

    Well handled Minister. Myopia is a huge problem in South Africa. I’m not a member of the ANC but stand firmly with the South African government on calling for an end to callous killing of innocent people. It’s embarrassing that so many people can sit around and watch people being killed as the Germans did the Jews and the apartheid government in South Africa wholeheartedly killed Africans and all those opposed to apartheid policies. We cannot sit by and accept that, especially us as black South Africans who know the pain of being killed simply for opposing political views by the authorities of the day.

    • @MsBhappy
      @MsBhappy 9 місяців тому

      Hamas kill Gazans who stand up to their authority. This is not a case of how the Germans treated the Jews between Likud and Hamas. al-Husseini collaborated with Hitler with the goal of genocide against the Jews... that is what Hamas still wants. How Hamas treats Gazans is more akin to how the Nazis treated Jews. Civilian deaths in Gaza are more similar to civilian deaths in Germany during WWII by the allies.

  • @RuthMadumo
    @RuthMadumo 9 місяців тому +2

    What about the freedom of South Africans from the ruling party and foreigners?

  • @attmoco
    @attmoco 9 місяців тому +7

    So sad to see how ignorant people can support oppression when they themselves were once oppressed. Remember what goes around comes around.

    • @MsBhappy
      @MsBhappy 9 місяців тому +1

      There is no such thing as freedom for Palestinians with Hamas governance. I encourage you to look into how Hamas have oppressed Gazans.

    • @attmoco
      @attmoco 9 місяців тому

      @@MsBhappy if that is correct then why kill the same people who are unhappy about the regime? Certain events are surely out of their hands. This is murder and genocide and pure evil

    • @thembakhumalo-li7bl
      @thembakhumalo-li7bl 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@MsBhappy Your comment is from very limited knowledge of all events....We cannot support genocide and ethnic cleansing

    • @MsBhappy
      @MsBhappy 9 місяців тому

      @@thembakhumalo-li7bl it would be ethnic cleansing if the Gazans were displaced from Gaza and not allowed to return and rebuild. Internal displacement during active warfare is NOT ethnic cleansing. It was ethnic cleansing when every Jew had to leave Gaza in the 2000s. Genocide is what Hamas wants and would seek to continue to carry out if they are given legitimacy. There is no place for them in the middle east after this war. They do not believe in democracy or democratic values.
      Gaza under Hamas is also a gender apartheid.

    • @MsBhappy
      @MsBhappy 9 місяців тому

      @@thembakhumalo-li7bl Internally displaced people during wartime is not necessarily ethnic cleansing. Ethnic cleansing would be if they aren't allowed to return to where their homes were post-war. Many of the ten stages of genocide are exhibited on both sides of this war and no one has a solution. Hamas do not believe in democracy as evidenced by their killing political opponents when they took power and not holding elections in the 15 years since. Mandela would not support Hamas as evidenced by his values of democracy, women's rights and peace.

  • @MsBhappy
    @MsBhappy 9 місяців тому +3

    If the phone call with Hamas in October 17 was about getting humanitarian aid to Gaza like they said it was then why did it take until December 18th for Ramaphosa to announce South Africa was sending aid to Gaza?!
    Mandela would not have supported Hamas. Hamas are the antithesis to freedom, human rights, democracy, women's rights and peace.

    • @lalapoo7110
      @lalapoo7110 8 місяців тому

      Mandela and the ANC were terrorist as well according to the leaders of Apartheid. Shame the atrocities committed by Israel started way before Oct. 7th

  • @paulleroux5182
    @paulleroux5182 8 місяців тому

    4.8 Million children do not have any food to eat in South Africa. Rather solve that. Oh yes I hope you had enough? Afterall that event must have taken food away from at least 1Million children.

  • @dudleymakeche7842
    @dudleymakeche7842 9 місяців тому +1

    What about the freedom of Israel? Why doesn't rsa think of the atrocities Israel has suffered at the hands of Palestinians and their Arab backers?

    • @johnmpandaguta3289
      @johnmpandaguta3289 8 місяців тому

      If they suffering and they arrived in 1948 they can pack their bags and free from themselves from Arabs

    • @keithozen7514
      @keithozen7514 8 місяців тому +1

      Go back to the history books! Read them sloooooooowly . . . reflect . . . learn!

    • @lalapoo7110
      @lalapoo7110 8 місяців тому

      Which ones are those? When the Palestinians were forced to offer to share their land with immigrant Jews and have since been prosecuted out of their land. Those darn Arabs 😔

  • @not.likely
    @not.likely 9 місяців тому +1

    Pandor is as mad as a hatter

    • @keithozen7514
      @keithozen7514 8 місяців тому

      How so exactly?

    • @not.likely
      @not.likely 8 місяців тому

      @@keithozen7514 anything woke is

    • @lalapoo7110
      @lalapoo7110 8 місяців тому

      @@not.likelywhat a balanced view your present - great argument 🙃

  • @sidneygordon3267
    @sidneygordon3267 9 місяців тому

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