DOOM! One of my all time favorite artists, his life and career mirrors victor von doom and his origin. Cool to see someone bring up DOOM in a comic book channel. You have good taste.
Heroes Return is where I jumped on. Never respected FF until reading this and now I'm hungrier knowing this isn't the best run. I always miscast FF as real-world heroes like DD, Spider-man or X-men, not realizing they're meant to be cosmic & dimensional superheroes. Now I LOVE them
I’m reading the Lee/Kirby run for the first time (currently on omni vol 2) and for someone who could not have cared less about FF as a kid I’m having an absolute blast. It starts a bit slow but by issue 20 or so it gets great and even the early issues of vol 2 look and read light years ahead of what came earlier. Amazing to see the Silver Age basically being invented by the month. I also have the Hickman omni reprint on order and have comixology trades of the Waid/Weiringo run to get to
@Ryan Wilson yeah I wish I’d just bought it when it was in print but I wouldn’t be surprised if it got another reissue in time for the MCU FF film. Hell if Marvel keeps going ham with these omni issues and reprints I might be able to get it even sooner.
Great list, id also reccomend Marvel 2 in One by Chip Zdarsky as well. Even though it mainly just features the Thing and the Human Torch it helps connect how they find Reed and Sue before Slott started his run.
Outside of a random crossover appearance here or there, the Waid & Wieringo run was where I first jumped into Fasntastic Four when I was getting back into comics after a long absence. I was buying up Marvel Essentials on eBay and one of the sellers reached out and asked if I wanted to buy anything else from his auctions to combine shipping. Those 6 TPBs ended up being the first non-Essential collections (or Usagi Yojimbo books) that I bought in a good long while and were the precursor to my foray back into comics. And, years later, I sold them away after I "upgraded" to the omnibus. One could say that without those 6 Fantastic Four trades, I may not be reading comics, buying piles of books I'll never get to before I die or watching Near Mint Condition videos today.
I just jumped onto the current run during the bride of doom story, and was able to catch up within a few issues. Also the ff life story coming out now is pretty good
I missed most of it at the time but I've been reading Claremont & Larocca's FF run lately and really been digging it. Not exactly for beginners but pretty great if you usually enjoy their work.
I remember being so impressed with the first Byrne FF when it came out. I love that run. The only thing I didn’t like was the split up between The Thing and Alicia. I thought that was an important part of the character. Some things shouldn’t be messed with.
Thanks for this video. I've been wanting to get on board on the Fantastic Four. Also wondering which run I should start with. This has given me a lot of insights on each run.
The first 3 are basically what I would recommend based on my brother's opinions, since he knows *everything* about the FF & I know next to nothing! I ended up starting with the Silver Age stuff & I don't regret it a bit, but I am very eager to get to the Byrne era. I've read a bit of each era now but not nearly as much as the Kirby/Lee, it just gets better & better as I go.
hey omar ! starting from the very beginning is how it should be read. I am now re-reading the fantasic 4 epics now heading into vol 2. such a good read ! stay safe and keep up the great work !
@Ryan Wilson star trek in the 60's was not serious at all. it was goofy and silly all the way up on till the movies came out. that is when star trek got serious.
Dang Omar I know it's not titled Fantastic but Marvel Two in One by Chip for me will make the best introduction. Just two characters that lost their family and later even a villain is similarly losing it after so long without his archnemesis. So great. I love that confrontation of the Thing against Reed "The kids!" Ugh manly eye sweat. For younger readers maybe the Moon Girl crossover when she forms her own FF. That was an all ages blast.
Aww man the art... the writing.. the Omar primer... so hyped to start reading my Fantastic Four Omnis 1 and 2... I spy 3 and 4 are presently pretty cheap on amazon O_o
I’d love to see a Mike Allred run on fantastic four. I know he drew those FF issues (written by Fraction?), but I think Allred could do a really fun 12+ issue run with Marvel’s first family. Madman is one of my favorite books, and I love his other independent/creator owned projects, but his style and energy fits so perfectly with fun marvel super hero books. For me he was the perfect antidote for all the overdone ultra dark and gritty superhero comics post Watchmen and DKR. Allred on a big Fantastic Four story would be really cool. If he didn’t want to write it himself he could pair up w/someone like Dan Slott.
Great storylines. One that I would've added that I didn't see shown here is Carlos Pacheco's 13 issue run (I believe it was) on the FF. I, to me, was one of those "Back to Basics" approaches that saw the re-emergence of age old FF foes that hadn't been seen nor heard from in years: Diablo, The Grey Gargoyle, Annihilus, the Super Skrull... and even introduced a new villian to the mix, Abraxas. He even threw in an appearance from the Ultimate Nullifier to boot. 😁
I'm 61 and am older than Marvel and the FF, I read all the classic FF as they came out, but like you i took a break from comics in my forties because life got in the way, now I'm medically retired, I started getting back into comics, I chose Mark Millar's run as a jumping on again point to the main FF storyline (unlike you, I like Millar's writing) after first getting into them again via the Ultimate FF run, I love Hickman's writing too and have followed him to titles i was never into before like the X-men,
I've only been reading the current run of Fantastic Four by Dan Slott and I started last year, got volume 2 this Christmas and bought volume 3-7 since and I'm actually quite enjoying it
My first time reading a fantastic four book was checking a copy of marvel masterworks Vol 2 (first volume with FF) out of the library. Even though it's the very first fantastic four comics I still think it's one of the best. So I guess I started from the very beginning. I actually enjoyed that marvel masterworks volume so much I bought a copy of it that is exactly like the one I checked out. I think that's why I like marvel masterworks in general.
Hello Omar could you convinced David Gabriel to reprint Vol. 1 and 2 of Johathan Hickman's run on F4. I know the Omni is getting reprinted soon but I'm more into thick trades.
Heroes Reborn, Heroes Return, and MK 4 are my major recommendation. I love the 90s run, but there's so much going on it's hard to get into. The worst runs were Mark Millar and Waid's run. I hate, hate, hate Waid's run it's as offensive as it is corny. You have Reed torturing Doom in a sloppy and heavy handed Iraq War allegory that's handled with subtlety of an epileptic gorilla with hammers for hands in a stainded glass factory in one storyline, and then you have Galactus agreeing to not to destry the world because ice crea exists in another. Leather daddy doom fridging a love interest who is just brought on to die, and concluded with the dumbest literal deus ex machina where things are undone with I kid you not a pencil eraser. This run is easily as bad Jeph Loeb's Ultimates 3. I have no idea why it gets so much praise. It is the worst run of Fantastic Four ever printed. The olny redeeming aspect is Wieringo is a great artist.
im sorry u can claim the byrne and lee runs are evergreen but they are not good for modern readers. They are a chore and a slog to get through and would probably turn some fans off from continuing comics. waid, hickman, season one etc are much better
On a related note, R.I.P. MF DOOM. it's almost been a year since this legend passed. A great rapper and popularizer of comic books.
DOOM! One of my all time favorite artists, his life and career mirrors victor von doom and his origin. Cool to see someone bring up DOOM in a comic book channel. You have good taste.
RIP DOOM
RIP DOOM next level lyricist, one of a kind. Don’t really see how he popularized comics though. I bought the mask like a few months ago😭love that shit
@@Angel-Otk I know I'm not the only one who checked out comics because of MF DOOM's references and aesthetic.
Yes as a comic and hip hop fan people like mf doom and czarface drop some of the maddest comic refrences
Heroes Return is where I jumped on. Never respected FF until reading this and now I'm hungrier knowing this isn't the best run. I always miscast FF as real-world heroes like DD, Spider-man or X-men, not realizing they're meant to be cosmic & dimensional superheroes. Now I LOVE them
I’m reading the Lee/Kirby run for the first time (currently on omni vol 2) and for someone who could not have cared less about FF as a kid I’m having an absolute blast. It starts a bit slow but by issue 20 or so it gets great and even the early issues of vol 2 look and read light years ahead of what came earlier. Amazing to see the Silver Age basically being invented by the month. I also have the Hickman omni reprint on order and have comixology trades of the Waid/Weiringo run to get to
@Ryan Wilson yeah I wish I’d just bought it when it was in print but I wouldn’t be surprised if it got another reissue in time for the MCU FF film. Hell if Marvel keeps going ham with these omni issues and reprints I might be able to get it even sooner.
Great list, id also reccomend Marvel 2 in One by Chip Zdarsky as well. Even though it mainly just features the Thing and the Human Torch it helps connect how they find Reed and Sue before Slott started his run.
My man! Great stuff. You continue to be an example of what the best of this community has to offer. Loved your interview with Waid
Outside of a random crossover appearance here or there, the Waid & Wieringo run was where I first jumped into Fasntastic Four when I was getting back into comics after a long absence. I was buying up Marvel Essentials on eBay and one of the sellers reached out and asked if I wanted to buy anything else from his auctions to combine shipping.
Those 6 TPBs ended up being the first non-Essential collections (or Usagi Yojimbo books) that I bought in a good long while and were the precursor to my foray back into comics. And, years later, I sold them away after I "upgraded" to the omnibus.
One could say that without those 6 Fantastic Four trades, I may not be reading comics, buying piles of books I'll never get to before I die or watching Near Mint Condition videos today.
Nice to see my favorite superhero team get a list like this and a good one. Awesome work, Omar.
Jim Lee was a stepping off point for me. I don’t like the pumped up steroids feel of the art or the garish colours. I am old school.
thank you you bearded beauty. been wanting to get into Fantastic Four.
I'm going to start calling him that too!
@@astonishingmelanie you are welcome xx
Great video! Bookmarking for reference later. You’re the man! :)
I just jumped onto the current run during the bride of doom story, and was able to catch up within a few issues. Also the ff life story coming out now is pretty good
I’d basically recommend FF omnibus 1-4 (which I’ve just finished picking up), all time must read classics
I missed most of it at the time but I've been reading Claremont & Larocca's FF run lately and really been digging it. Not exactly for beginners but pretty great if you usually enjoy their work.
Definitely one in my top 5
I love these segments!
Never knew about New Fantastic 4. Going to check that out!
Aww man thanks for the recommendation on the the "New Fantastic Four" going to seek that one out!
I’d go Fraction or Robinson over Slott honestly. Underrated run imo is the JMS run!
I reread the Robinson run recently and it’s SO GOOD! I wish it had gone on longer and it should be collected in a OHC! 👍🏼
I remember being so impressed with the first Byrne FF when it came out. I love that run. The only thing I didn’t like was the split up between The Thing and Alicia. I thought that was an important part of the character. Some things shouldn’t be messed with.
love the FF so damn much!
Thanks for this video. I've been wanting to get on board on the Fantastic Four. Also wondering which run I should start with. This has given me a lot of insights on each run.
The first 3 are basically what I would recommend based on my brother's opinions, since he knows *everything* about the FF & I know next to nothing! I ended up starting with the Silver Age stuff & I don't regret it a bit, but I am very eager to get to the Byrne era. I've read a bit of each era now but not nearly as much as the Kirby/Lee, it just gets better & better as I go.
They do get better as you go.
I’m going be giving waid and wireingo a try I like the aspect where they all feel like family
hey omar ! starting from the very beginning is how it should be read. I am now re-reading the fantasic 4 epics now heading into vol 2. such a good read ! stay safe and keep up the great work !
@Ryan Wilson star trek in the 60's was not serious at all. it was goofy and silly all the way up on till the movies came out. that is when star trek got serious.
Dang Omar I know it's not titled Fantastic but Marvel Two in One by Chip for me will make the best introduction. Just two characters that lost their family and later even a villain is similarly losing it after so long without his archnemesis. So great. I love that confrontation of the Thing against Reed "The kids!" Ugh manly eye sweat.
For younger readers maybe the Moon Girl crossover when she forms her own FF. That was an all ages blast.
I am so bummed that Hickman's FF omnibus has been bumped from this November to January 2022.
ahh man really? well thats disappointing
Oh wow!!!! It has? I was looking forward to it. Maybe because of the scarcity of paper in the US that they had to push it back a little.
Fantastic Four 203 was my first ever FF comic! My 2 favorite runs are in here with Byrne and then Claremont's run in Heroes Return.
Looking forward to checking out Hickman Omnibus, 1234, and based on your recommendation the Weirango Omnibus (even though I'm not a fan of waid"
Aww man the art... the writing.. the Omar primer... so hyped to start reading my Fantastic Four Omnis 1 and 2... I spy 3 and 4 are presently pretty cheap on amazon O_o
I’d love to see a Mike Allred run on fantastic four. I know he drew those FF issues (written by Fraction?), but I think Allred could do a really fun 12+ issue run with Marvel’s first family. Madman is one of my favorite books, and I love his other independent/creator owned projects, but his style and energy fits so perfectly with fun marvel super hero books. For me he was the perfect antidote for all the overdone ultra dark and gritty superhero comics post Watchmen and DKR. Allred on a big Fantastic Four story would be really cool. If he didn’t want to write it himself he could pair up w/someone like Dan Slott.
Great storylines. One that I would've added that I didn't see shown here is Carlos Pacheco's 13 issue run (I believe it was) on the FF. I, to me, was one of those "Back to Basics" approaches that saw the re-emergence of age old FF foes that hadn't been seen nor heard from in years: Diablo, The Grey Gargoyle, Annihilus, the Super Skrull... and even introduced a new villian to the mix, Abraxas. He even threw in an appearance from the Ultimate Nullifier to boot. 😁
Aww man this video just keeps giving
Wish the lee/kidby omnibus vol 1 was still in print. Prefer to read like that then in any other format.
Good selection BTW
It's coming back. I think next month.
This is a well made video. Thank you.
Thank you for watching.
I'm 61 and am older than Marvel and the FF, I read all the classic FF as they came out, but like you i took a break from comics in my forties because life got in the way, now I'm medically retired, I started getting back into comics, I chose Mark Millar's run as a jumping on again point to the main FF storyline (unlike you, I like Millar's writing) after first getting into them again via the Ultimate FF run, I love Hickman's writing too and have followed him to titles i was never into before like the X-men,
I almost put that run on here, but then much like Byrne he didn’t get to finish the story. Glad that you are back!
I'm Thinking of getting into Ghost Rider, it would be nice to see a Where to start reading ghost rider or a comprehensive reading order 😅
Great list, the only book I'd add ia FF Life Story by Mark Russell which is my favourite FF story!
a Walt Simonson omnibus please
I'd totally be for this. They could even add the few Avengers issues he did with the FF the year or so prior to fill the book out more if needed.
I have always considered "Terror in a Tiny Town" (236) to be the single best issue of the Fantastic Four.
Justo el vídeo que necesitaba ❤️💪
I picked up vols 2,3 and 4 recently I can't wait untill vol 1 is reprinted in December
@Ryan Wilson penguin still has it as December 21st but it has a lot of book out then so It may move again
Can you do a where to start with daredevil?
I've only been reading the current run of Fantastic Four by Dan Slott and I started last year, got volume 2 this Christmas and bought volume 3-7 since and I'm actually quite enjoying it
i'm a byrne tragic, so i've stuck to his stuff. I agree with you on the paul ryan run, too, omar-it was great.
Have you thought about doing a video on digital versions of collected editions- pros and cons of digital.
Greatest Marvel team ever!
Which do you prefer, Ultimate Fantastic Four or Fantastic Four season one
Ultimate FF.
My first time reading a fantastic four book was checking a copy of marvel masterworks Vol 2 (first volume with FF) out of the library. Even though it's the very first fantastic four comics I still think it's one of the best. So I guess I started from the very beginning. I actually enjoyed that marvel masterworks volume so much I bought a copy of it that is exactly like the one I checked out. I think that's why I like marvel masterworks in general.
That was some classic FF story telling there. I wish I had kept my Masterworks sometimes.
Yeah, I don't get every masterworks but I do have some. And the new mighty marvel masterworks are cool.
I have to get to FF some day .. I have enough material it's just a matter of time
This is the first I've heard that people don't like the Slott run. I LOVE it.
There are people that HATE IT. I don't get it either, but I lived through some baaaaad FF stories. :)
it's horrible
@@rod_n_rock why?
If I want to start with Hickmans FF would I be lost?Just like with so much other stuff simply can't buy it all.
Hello Omar could you convinced David Gabriel to reprint Vol. 1 and 2 of Johathan Hickman's run on F4. I know the Omni is getting reprinted soon but I'm more into thick trades.
Those are getting reprinted
Do we know when the reprint of John Byrne Volume 1 is coming?
All this video just to announce the Ultimate Fantastic four Omnibus 😋
Please make a where to start for X-men!!!!
7:00 why are they fighting Peter Griffin??
Heroes Reborn, Heroes Return, and MK 4 are my major recommendation. I love the 90s run, but there's so much going on it's hard to get into. The worst runs were Mark Millar and Waid's run. I hate, hate, hate Waid's run it's as offensive as it is corny. You have Reed torturing Doom in a sloppy and heavy handed Iraq War allegory that's handled with subtlety of an epileptic gorilla with hammers for hands in a stainded glass factory in one storyline, and then you have Galactus agreeing to not to destry the world because ice crea exists in another. Leather daddy doom fridging a love interest who is just brought on to die, and concluded with the dumbest literal deus ex machina where things are undone with I kid you not a pencil eraser. This run is easily as bad Jeph Loeb's Ultimates 3. I have no idea why it gets so much praise. It is the worst run of Fantastic Four ever printed. The olny redeeming aspect is Wieringo is a great artist.
Hey, omar-any more news on byrne finishing "the last galactus story"?
I wish brother.
When will vol 1 be reprinted?
Should i get the untold tales of spiderman omnibus or the miles morales omnibus? Not the ultimate universe one
Untold!
Untold Tales definitely
nice try, Omar. You ain't leading me down this rabbit hole!
I wish I liked Dan slotts run more.
Mr. Fantastic looks like John Krasinski now 🤣
I know, right?
Do one for the X-men pls!
I will be
im sorry u can claim the byrne and lee runs are evergreen but they are not good for modern readers. They are a chore and a slog to get through and would probably turn some fans off from continuing comics. waid, hickman, season one etc are much better
It depends on the reader. My kiddos both liked the silver age first 10 issues. I’ve not heard that Byrne wasn’t good for modern readers though.