Good job and thanks for including Tamsen Stringham. In this whole discussion about the horses, I wish the researchers were given equal time. 90% of the people following the horses haven't a clue, nor do they seem to care, about the ecosystems on these rangelands. And the University of Nevada -Reno is right in the middle of this crisis.
Not one word about public-lands ranching! Not even by the "advocates." Livestock receive over seven times more forage in the Antelope Complex (North + South) than the horses. That resource would support over 6,000 wild horses, on top of the 789 allowed by plan. You don't have a wild horse problem, you have a resource management problem. Areas identified for wild horses are managed primarily for cattle and sheep. Overpopulation means the horses are trying to reclaim some of their food from the poor ranchers.
Ranching generates income for the ranchers, it creates jobs, horses don't generate income, all they do is destroy their habitat and the habitat of native wildlife.
Yeah, well said nobody talks about ranchers livestock. It is the ranchers greed that is pushing horses away from their own land. The land and comes with the horses but the ranchers want to keep the land and resources for them and displace the horses away. When they say that horses are a problem that is costing tax payers millions of dollars, what they should be saying instead is that the ranchers are the ones that are costing taxpayers money because horses could be Roaming and eating on the land designated for them but ranchers are using it for their own livestock / benefit.
Yeah, but when I order a steak, it isn't going to be horse. Really, if anyone out there cares about the horses, let them come with a horse trailer, capture one or two or three and take them back home to their backyards. ....The cattle and sheep feed my voracious appetite for steaks, hamburgers, and donerkebabs and lambchops. ....Those horses just running around?
Horses have actually been here just as long as cattle. Both were brought over by Europe during colonization. The original horses that do belong in the wild here, are all extinct.
The horses and cattle were both brought by settlers beginning w Spanish settlements in California/Mexico/Florida about 200 years before more northern Europeans arrived on the east coast.
"....taking our public lands." Since when were farmers and ranchers and miners and tree harvesters banished from "the public" -- not to mention people who EAT, use resources such as the end products of minerals and lumber? "....private interests...." Yes, you and I satisfy our "private interests" every time we sit down for a meal or build a home (with lumber and gypsum, etc.) or drive our ATVs around the hills. Let's privatize more "public" (government) lands!
@@MrJm323 Seeing ATVs destroying our public lands is upsetting. Most lumber comes from PRIVATE lands, and only 1.6% of beef(which I DO NOT eat)comes from public lands. Private interests on public lands has ALWAYS been a welfare program, one that is funded by the tax-payer and destroys the land and wildlife, many of us are tired of it.
Absolutely disgusting that the pathetic cattle people are too greedy to feed their cows, so they want all the horses removed so they can pay a cheap fee and graze their cattle on public lands instead of paying for the feed for animals they bought. If you can only afford hay for 500 cows then dont buy 5000 and take food from wildlife.
"Wildlife" don't feed people. Cattle and sheep do. Grazing is a productive agricultural use. What is disgusting is rich people wanting to take ever more land out of agricultural use and reserve it for wildlife! ....We already have enough national and state parkland, given over to wildlife and fishing and hunting and hiking and camping. Especially out west, there's no shortage of land locked up for "the wildlife" and recreational camping and hiking.
Good job and thanks for including Tamsen Stringham. In this whole discussion about the horses, I wish the researchers were given equal time. 90% of the people following the horses haven't a clue, nor do they seem to care, about the ecosystems on these rangelands. And the University of Nevada -Reno is right in the middle of this crisis.
Not one word about public-lands ranching! Not even by the "advocates." Livestock receive over seven times more forage in the Antelope Complex (North + South) than the horses. That resource would support over 6,000 wild horses, on top of the 789 allowed by plan. You don't have a wild horse problem, you have a resource management problem. Areas identified for wild horses are managed primarily for cattle and sheep. Overpopulation means the horses are trying to reclaim some of their food from the poor ranchers.
Ranching generates income for the ranchers, it creates jobs, horses don't generate income, all they do is destroy their habitat and the habitat of native wildlife.
Yeah, well said nobody talks about ranchers livestock. It is the ranchers greed that is pushing horses away from their own land. The land and comes with the horses but the ranchers want to keep the land and resources for them and displace the horses away.
When they say that horses are a problem that is costing tax payers millions of dollars, what they should be saying instead is that the ranchers are the ones that are costing taxpayers money because horses could be Roaming and eating on the land designated for them but ranchers are using it for their own livestock / benefit.
Documentation of your claim re seven times forage use by livestock, please.
The ranchers aren't poor they are greedy and don't want to buy feed for the overabundance of cows they buy.
Yeah, but when I order a steak, it isn't going to be horse.
Really, if anyone out there cares about the horses, let them come with a horse trailer, capture one or two or three and take them back home to their backyards. ....The cattle and sheep feed my voracious appetite for steaks, hamburgers, and donerkebabs and lambchops. ....Those horses just running around?
The numbers were inflated and this is in us courts may ee always havE free roaming wild horses❤❤
We are the Arnold Schwarzenegger of the Nevada desert. Now who is the boss? Silly humans. We are good.
Leave them alone its cruel to do this to any animal anytime government gets involved shit hits the fan
The horses have been here alot longer than cattle. They should be protected and not sold to slaughter houses. Should be national treasures
Horses have actually been here just as long as cattle. Both were brought over by Europe during colonization. The original horses that do belong in the wild here, are all extinct.
The horses and cattle were both brought by settlers beginning w Spanish settlements in California/Mexico/Florida about 200 years before more northern Europeans arrived on the east coast.
And not one mention of private interests ranching, which is degrading and over taking our public lands.
"....taking our public lands."
Since when were farmers and ranchers and miners and tree harvesters banished from "the public" -- not to mention people who EAT, use resources such as the end products of minerals and lumber?
"....private interests...."
Yes, you and I satisfy our "private interests" every time we sit down for a meal or build a home (with lumber and gypsum, etc.) or drive our ATVs around the hills.
Let's privatize more "public" (government) lands!
@@MrJm323 Seeing ATVs destroying our public lands is upsetting. Most lumber comes from PRIVATE lands, and only 1.6% of beef(which I DO NOT eat)comes from public lands. Private interests on public lands has ALWAYS been a welfare program, one that is funded by the tax-payer and destroys the land and wildlife, many of us are tired of it.
Absolutely disgusting that the pathetic cattle people are too greedy to feed their cows, so they want all the horses removed so they can pay a cheap fee and graze their cattle on public lands instead of paying for the feed for animals they bought. If you can only afford hay for 500 cows then dont buy 5000 and take food from wildlife.
"Wildlife" don't feed people. Cattle and sheep do. Grazing is a productive agricultural use. What is disgusting is rich people wanting to take ever more land out of agricultural use and reserve it for wildlife! ....We already have enough national and state parkland, given over to wildlife and fishing and hunting and hiking and camping. Especially out west, there's no shortage of land locked up for "the wildlife" and recreational camping and hiking.
This is for land grabs
If only that were true!