Your primary weapon is your mind. Everything around you is an improvised weapon. You will have to infiltrate into enemy territory totally unarmed but knowing what common items can be used as a weapon to gain weapons from local enemy soldiers through ambush or theft. My family in the Philippines lived by this concept during the Japanese occupation during WWII. Weapons are all around you, you have to just think in that mindset and concept that you have a plan to kill to survive. Outstanding presentation!!!
@@Atkrdu The Filipinos used edged weapons like their Bolo machetes used for farming and knives to ambush Japanese soldiers to gain their rifles and ammunition since shooting an enemy soldier meant alerting other enemy soldiers that they are being attacked. Silent killing is another means of getting small arms from the Japanese Army in the early days of the occupation for guerilla units to arm themselves. Filipinos also had underground work shops making improvised firearms during that time and still build them today.
And the SOE could not afford to get caught with highly specialized weapons on covert missions. If you were gathering information by selling train tickets, you don't want to be seen with weapons the common person in that position wouldn't have. In WWII Europe, having a non-firearm weapon against thieves would not be unusual compared to our lawsuit happy society today, however it would have to be an easy weapon for the common man to acquire like an axe handle and such.
I once met an EX WWII SOE Operator sitting on a London tube train - my attention was drawn because he was reading a book with funny writing (Farsi - Persian) a languages Don from Oxford who'd parachuted into Yugoslavia to liase with the resistance. An almost completely unoticeable, speccy little bloke - exactly what you would want for an agent! Fascinating man (and a brave 18 year old too, he knew exactly what the Gestapo would've done to him)
I’m a 8404 combat veteran and I was trained to save a life and to take a life and I’ve done both. My Marine Corps Brothers were the most important thing in my life. My mission was to protect and care for my brothers and that is a honor I’ll never forget. United States Marine Corps this is what you asked for! Ohh frazzling Rah! Semper Fi,Doc
I remember as a kid in the late 1960's asking a couple of green berets (at our nearby army post) how they could kill someone with a rolled-up newspaper. (A popular 'myth' at the time.) One looked at the other and smiled, saying: "Kid, you have to roll the newspaper around an iron pipe."
The EYE OF THE NEEDLE, movie with the German agent armed only with a long switchblade knife. Also Ian Fleming, Bond creator carried and was issued, a Colt 1908, .25 ACP, during the war. He retired with it, took it yearly to Jamaica, and it is listed in his estate. It was not a Beretta .25, he just liked how that looked in print.
@@Man_fay_the_Bru : Actually, it was Geoffery Boothroyd the Scottish firearms authority that advised Ian Fleming though a letter(Boothroyd was a fan of the novels) that he should update James Bond's gun of choice, pointing out the lack of proper stopping power in the .25ACP cartridge among several other things. The Walther PPK in 7.65mm (.32 ACP) was but one of many firearms Boothroyd mentioned to Fleming and as a result, Bond changed his pistol from a Berreta .25 to the Walther PPK beginning in the novel Doctor No.
@@user-si9fx4xb6v I've seen, handled and shot a couple of Walther PPK's but I never could seem to afford one. The "knockdown" power and penetration do leave a bit to be desired -- the PPK's I messed with were .380 caliber. They are just about perfect for concealed carry, though. I've had a Walther P-38 that came to the USA as a "war trophy," and it is a pretty good shootin' iron. Nine millimeter Has a pretty good 'punch,' and penetration so that's one of my occasional CCW.s. But one thing is for sure... James Bond sold a LOT of PPK's because everybody wanted to be 'cool' like 007. The Bond movies also sold a lot of AR-7 (.22 ca.) survival rifles, too. They're still being sold today. I'd buy one if they came in .22 magnum.
I was on the edge of my seat throughout the video - waiting to hear the knock on your door, seeing the police enter and hearing them say "Hello, hello, hello..and what have we got here then?"
The TRIANG toy company ceased toy production to manufacture sten guns in ww2 , the factories equipment was ideal for the crude steel pressings and spot welding on the sten ,great vid 👍
Lines Brothers , manufacturers of Triang toys, only produced the mark three sten. My brother worked there as a tool maker in the ‘50s and when he later joined the military he specially requested a mark three and got one.
Proud owner of a Triang trike aged 3. Proud owner of an Action Man+ his Sten SM aged 6. Aged 18 proud owner of a... Well. Not quite ! Probably at my best on vert ramps 🛹 that year! My Late Grand dad fought in N.Af. with Mil Sig. Int etc. Came back late in the war as a Sergeant filled with mine shrapnel. Apparently he knew some of the Goons. I met him inside his potting shed- a London garden bomb shelter in the late 1960s as a young boy. I believe my late Canadian Uncle was more clandestine. Multiple languages etc.
one of the favorite gun holsters of the OSS/SOE was twine tied in a loop, wrapped around ones belt then fed through itself. it would hold the firearm inside the waistband but if one had to throw the firearm away the twine could be removed quickly and put in a pocket or thrown on the ground and it was just another piece of trash.
With the wood stick, you can weight it with a metal bolt. Drill into the end and add a metal bolt. If you drill the hole too loose, use epoxy to secure the bolt into the wood. A longer one is sold in North American gas stations as Tire Knockers. They used to always have a bolt in them but now I've started seeing boltless ones. As an 18" piece of solid hickory, it is still a useful tool without the bolt. For the stick in the video, you get little impact with a solid grip, but with a cord you can get more of a Sap impact with it.
Family member was an MP back in the 50's. Said they'd get called in during interservice bar brawls (Army vs. Navy; Navy vs. Marines, etc.) off-base on weekends. The minute they walked in it was everybody against the MP's. Didn't end well for them, the pine billy clubs they were given would bust after a few good licks, then it was outnumbered guys with fists. After a couple times coming off on the losing end they went and had their clubs bored and filled with lead weights. After that just a flick of the wrist and they layed their targets out cold.
"Tire Billies" were still a favorite of truck drivers in the 1970's. Back then, they had about a two-inch wide metal band around the business end. Truckers would claim they weren't weapons, but tools used to thump the dual tires, to ensure they had air pressure and weren't just hanging there supported by the other tire. Even people who weren't truckers (like me) carried them -- with some kind of 'cover story' to describe a legitimate 'tool' type of use. Now-a-days, a 'fish billy; can be carried along with a tackle box or fishing pole and probably get you out of a jam with the cops if you're caught with it.
@@yepiratesworkshop7997 I have several tire billys. Wood with a metal band around the top Wood with heavy bar in the center And One of aluminum that looks like a baby basebal bat. I was an OTR semi truck driver for years. We would use short crowbars or lug wrenches too. I am now a half crippled old man so having this tire checker in my car is accepted and a nice possible first responder tool. unless or when my 1911 or Walther ppq are the only viable choices i have at the time.
FANTASTIC! The SOE certainly had numerous ways of eliminating the enemy. A trained operative could in fact be a one-oerson clandestine arsenal. I admire and envy the hell out of your weapons collection, sir. And those look to me like they've seen action.
There are more exciting SOE/OSS agents, i am sure. But for me, i have picked Peter J. Ortiz based on available information. Hollywood wouldnt make a movie about him because his accolades were unbelievable. FFL para with combat jumps prior to WW2, joined US military and was on his way to EU, and his ship was torpedoed and sunk. Walked into a tavern full of Waffen SS, and forced them to sing The Marine Corps Hymn. Another SS battalion was Convinced that they were fighting a company size element, but it was only Peter and 2 partisans!!!!!😅😅😅😅 love this vid do right!
Good vid, interesting. You have a nice collection there. One thing I would note is that the marlin spike is for rope work, not leather or canvas stitching. Used in splicing and knotting.
Hi Tommy, my take would be a snubby Colt or a 1903 small semiautomatic, the 1911 without a good holster would print on a small fellow like me. I saw some samples of "Fitz" adaptations of the S&W British Service revolver, one is featured in "Small Arms" by Maj. Myatt, my guess was that it came from SOE, due to Applegate's influence but it may be not the case.
Hello Tommy I really enjoy your videos.there is a very good museum which I'm sure you would really like-Parham Suffolk British resistance museum (Churchills secret army)
Interesting! I would guess that an agent would be UNARMED 95% of the time as they move through society trying to blend into the social fabric of the community. I would think if an agent was stopped and they were armed it would be a little suspicious, since most of the population would be unarmed. However the other 5% of the time, makes perfect sense. I would guess that unarmed combative skills and the use of improvised weapons were very important skills. However being a true Gray Man would be the best defense. Well done and very interesting. 👍🏻
With the exception of outright assassination missions, the name of the game was to have no confrontations if at all possible. Not only would the odds of death or capture rise exponentially, but it could compromise entire networks and undo months or years worth of work in that area. There was also the reality that if someone killed one of their own, the Nazis would think nothing of rounding up and executing a couple hundred people from the nearby village in retaliation.
Unless you were a Jew or a known communist or social democrat it would ironically be very easy to get a gun legally in Nazi Germany. The average person in Nazi Germany could legally carry a pistol, while most people in "democratic" UK couldn't. This is one of the reasons that I never did military service here in Sweden, btw. I would NEVER fight for a country where it isn't my right as a private citizen to own and carry a gun.
It wasn't codified as a right in Germany. What happened under Nazi rule is that regulations were loosened (except of course for Jews), but handguns still required permits, and the police maintained records of purchases.
@@kenofken9458 Yes, but it was still much easier to get a gun than in the UK. And Germany before 1920 had no national gun law at all, and in Austria-Hungary it was a shall-issue, while people in the UK needed a permit from 1903. The irony is that the UK claimed to have more freedom than Nazi Germany, Imperial Germany and Austria-Hungary.
the sten didn't like mud and grit, but you could run it under a tap through the spout to clean out the chamber which is handy in a French farm yard after you slept in the hay loft and fell in the pig stye,
Oohh that Fairbairn fighting knife is so beautiful so elegant and yet so deadly❤🌹 P.S. I'm glad you British soldiers helped us Dutch People in ww2. Much love and thanks ❤
Yeah, but if Germany won - Europe - Would Still be White! Look @ the Terrible effect Mass Illegal Immigrant Invasion is having on All Western Countries! I think we fought the Wrong Enemy in WW2 - If only we had helped Germany defeat the Bolshevik Red Terror - the World would be in a better place Today! No Woke DEI Diversity Hires & LGBTQ- PDFiles 🤨
One book I read suggested when it came to handguns like ones made in Spain were common because they were harder to trace back. I heard the gun used in the assassination of Admiral Darland was a Walther PPK which may have come from the SOE.
Enjoyed the video. Your eloquence and explanations Are reasonable and informative. A taste of operative apparatus to whet the appetite of your viewers. I was quite lucky that i, in Forward area intelligence, was military and comfortably ensconced in a 5 member team. Well trained, well arned, well motivated as well as well determined to avoid contact. That not being part of our mission parameter. Granted that was not always the case. Occasionally unavoidable. However extracation was always successful and without casualty to our team. For us it was an MBR, M-16 or when the gods of combat (command) would allow a much more useful rifle to us, the M-14. Rarely a bayonet but definitely a combat knife of 6 inch blade minimum. Mine was a lovely Camillus others utilized were Kabars or personally obtained ones that have passed approval most often having passed a series of tests for utility and effectiveness. A sidearm which in my case and the fellows i ran with came in one of three flavors. 1911A1 ( my preference) Colt or Smith and Wesson 38 special 4 inch barreled or the better 3rd flavor and preferred revolver, 357 magnum. As we were snoopers We also carried cameras and target painting lasers, then the size of a suitcase. Followed by the usual rations and aid gear. Minimal in number as we were not long in the field. Ours while it involved our cold (felt awful hot sometimes) war with communism. Was well supported and nothing like the missions of Intelligence operatives, war time or not. We none the less were kitted out for our jobs. Your SOE like our intel units as well were extraordinarily courageous persons and while the gear they had access to was good it was not enough. Thank goodness they always carried their biggest and most effective weapon at all times. Their mind. Great video, i did enjoy your excellent presentation.
Great video. The idea of unarmed combat is a last resort action as a consequence of having made other mistakes is true for civilian self defence also. My experience bears this out, awareness and avoidance is the best self defence.
The P35 was/is popular for non uniform work because of its thin profile, particularly if grips are removed, and its 13 round mag. Carried in a belt the weapon and ammo could be disposed of instantly if required.
Sten was an insult to the brave men who carried them into battle. No accuracy, unreliable, too slow for 'spray and pray' unlike the Soviet PPS. Thanks for the vid, was surprised to see back street brawling weapons featuring so highly.
The misunderstanding with knuckle dusters is to put weight and muscle behind the punch Their most efficient deployment is fast flicky jabs and hooks Being faster is a huge advantage and the dusters amplify the power of fast punches. That now are literally bone shattering.
I really don't know why but 27 seconds in the video and I was washed over with memories of Wallace and Gromit. Just like I had a bucket of cold water poored over my head and that rush of shock... Was Wallace and Gromit. wtf. I'm profusely confused, perplexed even. Yet astonished. Edit: Great video!
I've done a lot of time in prison and I got really good at making shanks. Usually cut from a 3/8 inch plate shelf or bed leg. It's a process and not easy. But in shaping them I always used the FS dagger as my mental template. Can't exactly put an edge but I can bevel
On the jack knife with Marlin spike, most fisherman carried one. As they are a necessary tool on a fishing boat. And ice picks were also used. In various lengths and handle materials. They were also very easy to conceal on your person.
My pop Was a z man in Malaya,and got taught how to use a blow pipe from the native and also had a little liberator ,and a revover with a sling on th handle, he was friends with Jack sue
I have what may be a rare prototype dagger made around these times, or prior. I posted it on my channel if you mind taking a look. Its a massive cast brass casted handled 18 inch square blade club / dagger. I cant find any info on it yet. But it definitely resembles stuff used by many during WW1 - 2. Good video bud thanks
Great Video ! Say NO to the .45 Cal. that was designed to kill horses in a Calvary charge ! (Might make you like the CIA or an American...) Carry a 9mm Pistol to go with your carbine ! My cutting tool of choice is the SOG Trident with the Seat Belt slot cutter that is also great for cutting twine on bales of hay ! My other cutting tool is the EMT shears... Also the Pen is mightier than the sword ! ! ! (Maxpedition Tactical Pen model A... with glass Breaker and can unscrew the clip end and place over the Glass Breaker and make the pen look friendly.) tjl
He's in the UK I think it's even illegal for him to have his knuckles. I'm sure you would have showcased it but very wise that you pointed that out. Pray for the disarmed UK.
Interesting story on the Garotte. It did feature early on in the US - but didn't feature on the SOE curricula (that we have). Though we had the Peskett device which was a knife, garotte and cosh in one - but it wasn't widely used
are your guns live or deactivated, I'm curious? the one item in the thumbnail I wanted to see you didn't show. it looked like a stabbing weapon with a thumb hold or something, it reminds me of a giant sewing pin the sort that holds material in place. not the thumb blade that's not what I'm talking about.
Hi there. Great video, thank you for sharing. I am puzzled, because I have recently seen many YT vids showing that the KNUCKLE DUSTERS should be used over the SECOND knuckles of the fingers, and NOT how you show....... Sorry if I seem agressive but hey, how are these supposed to be worn ? Cheers mate
Talk to me about knuckle dusters Sensei, and all of your World War II combatives and bartitsu research what did you learn about these bad boys? What's the proper Form and Function so you don't screw your hand up? I also learned that there was some stupid law passed where you guys had to destroy them in the UK but hopefully he can keep those because you're an instructor and it's an antique.
What is the point of these really long spikes in SOE OSS ww1-ww2 photos? Were they meant to go into the heart of the bad guy? I don't get it. You see the way that these guys use tools they want to things to be as quick and as efficient as possible but there's only one off switch I know for a spiked tool and you really don't need that much length. It's obviously the Brainstem. My research is kind of slacking but from from tactical combat systems Matie suggested the spike tool won't stop a major organ like the heart because it will continue to function with small pin holes. I think he made the same point for major organs like the liver lungs and kidneys. All of his blade work is done for counterterrorism so I don't want you to get the wrong vibe from this comment that's the only reason I study this stuff. He suggested a edged weapon that has a blade length about 4 in" because you can go in and slash out causing maximum damage on the Armed bad guy. I'm very confused about the spikes. From my amateur standpoint I'm just going to guess and say maybe the neck jugs and carrots maybe the airway maybe the subclavian and heart area maybe the kidney. If it's more of a artery punching tool that makes sense considering what you could do with a pen defensively. I just don't get the really goofy long spikes overall. They seem cumbersome and unwieldy. And almost dangerous to the user. But when you bring up the double-edged Fairburn dagger that's a very lightweight efficient tool that can slash and stab it makes perfect sense as a combatives tool. Little puzzled here on the historical reason behind it. If you have any feedback for why I'm all ears.
This video is a bit misleading. It gives the false impression that all the items you show were official SOE issue, but they were not. Only four: the Sten; the Fairbairn-Sykes fighting knife; the thumb knife, and the spike dagger, are confirmed to have been issued by S.O.E.
You can visit the imperial war museum's website and see SOE Issued: Knuckledusters Coshes / trunchons (sprung and unsprung) The British Army Jackknife is ubiquitous standard issue The 45 was part of weapons training at the STCs alongside the 1903 and 1908 (and many more besides) The thumb dagger is SOE The longer lapel dagger / spike is SOE And even where not SOE orientated you can clearly see items of this ilk in OSS, LRGD, The Auxiliary Units It's an informal video and a bit of fun to add context to what is mainly an unarmed channel
@@TommyMooreww2combativesThank you for your response. The 1911 was trained on, but was too big and bulky to be carried covertly, plus .45 calibre ammunition was not readily available for it in occupied countries. Naturally any existing weapon could have been used by an SOE agent, but that does not mean it was officially issued by the organization. For example, SOE had their own purpose-made cosh available in the equipment catalog, and it was not any of the examples you show. Still a good video, but I think it is important to clarify that most of those items were not SOE "issued".
I would think originals, especially those with any documentation and provenance, would be rather pricey these days. I'm not sure SOE gear was the most likely to turn up as surplus after the war either. Intelligence agencies don't like advertising means and methods even after wars are finished.
Remember my friends:
Getting in a "fair fight " is clear proof of your planning failures.
Your primary weapon is your mind. Everything around you is an improvised weapon. You will have to infiltrate into enemy territory totally unarmed but knowing what common items can be used as a weapon to gain weapons from local enemy soldiers through ambush or theft. My family in the Philippines lived by this concept during the Japanese occupation during WWII. Weapons are all around you, you have to just think in that mindset and concept that you have a plan to kill to survive. Outstanding presentation!!!
Would you care to give some examples? Some real-world stuff would be interesting (compared to a lot of maybes).
@@Atkrdusharpened sticks make spears and simple stabbing spikes. reeds woven into ropes make slings. rocks wrapped in reeds make bludgeons…
@@Atkrdu The Filipinos used edged weapons like their Bolo machetes used for farming and knives to ambush Japanese soldiers to gain their rifles and ammunition since shooting an enemy soldier meant alerting other enemy soldiers that they are being attacked. Silent killing is another means of getting small arms from the Japanese Army in the early days of the occupation for guerilla units to arm themselves. Filipinos also had underground work shops making improvised firearms during that time and still build them today.
@@Atkrdu sure a piece of rock about the aize of an orange, available in most locations
And the SOE could not afford to get caught with highly specialized weapons on covert missions. If you were gathering information by selling train tickets, you don't want to be seen with weapons the common person in that position wouldn't have. In WWII Europe, having a non-firearm weapon against thieves would not be unusual compared to our lawsuit happy society today, however it would have to be an easy weapon for the common man to acquire like an axe handle and such.
I once met an EX WWII SOE Operator sitting on a London tube train - my attention was drawn because he was reading a book with funny writing (Farsi - Persian) a languages Don from Oxford who'd parachuted into Yugoslavia to liase with the resistance.
An almost completely unoticeable, speccy little bloke - exactly what you would want for an agent! Fascinating man (and a brave 18 year old too, he knew exactly what the Gestapo would've done to him)
I’m a 8404 combat veteran and I was trained to save a life and to take a life and I’ve done both. My Marine Corps Brothers were the most important thing in my life. My mission was to protect and care for my brothers and that is a honor I’ll never forget. United States Marine Corps this is what you asked for! Ohh frazzling Rah! Semper Fi,Doc
I remember as a kid in the late 1960's asking a couple of green berets (at our nearby army post) how they could kill someone with a rolled-up newspaper. (A popular 'myth' at the time.) One looked at the other and smiled, saying: "Kid, you have to roll the newspaper around an iron pipe."
That would work I’d use lead though😂
The EYE OF THE NEEDLE, movie with the German agent armed only with a long switchblade knife.
Also Ian Fleming, Bond creator carried and was issued, a Colt 1908, .25 ACP, during the war. He retired with it, took it yearly to Jamaica, and it is listed in his estate. It was not a Beretta .25, he just liked how that looked in print.
You mean a Walther ppk
@@Man_fay_the_Bru : Actually, it was Geoffery Boothroyd the Scottish firearms authority that advised Ian Fleming though a letter(Boothroyd was a fan of the novels) that he should update James Bond's gun of choice, pointing out the lack of proper stopping power in the .25ACP cartridge among several other things. The Walther PPK in 7.65mm (.32 ACP) was but one of many firearms Boothroyd mentioned to Fleming and as a result, Bond changed his pistol from a Berreta .25 to the Walther PPK beginning in the novel Doctor No.
@@user-si9fx4xb6v I've seen, handled and shot a couple of Walther PPK's but I never could seem to afford one. The "knockdown" power and penetration do leave a bit to be desired -- the PPK's I messed with were .380 caliber. They are just about perfect for concealed carry, though. I've had a Walther P-38 that came to the USA as a "war trophy," and it is a pretty good shootin' iron. Nine millimeter Has a pretty good 'punch,' and penetration so that's one of my occasional CCW.s. But one thing is for sure... James Bond sold a LOT of PPK's because everybody wanted to be 'cool' like 007. The Bond movies also sold a lot of AR-7 (.22 ca.) survival rifles, too. They're still being sold today. I'd buy one if they came in .22 magnum.
Yes yes! I always wanted to know What kind of switchblade Donald Sutherland used...never could find a clear thing on the internet...
I was on the edge of my seat throughout the video - waiting to hear the knock on your door, seeing the police enter and hearing them say "Hello, hello, hello..and what have we got here then?"
The TRIANG toy company ceased toy production to manufacture sten guns in ww2 , the factories equipment was ideal for the crude steel pressings and spot welding on the sten ,great vid 👍
Lines Brothers , manufacturers of Triang toys, only produced the mark three sten. My brother worked there as a tool maker in the ‘50s and when he later joined the military he specially requested a mark three and got one.
Proud owner of a Triang trike aged 3. Proud owner of an Action Man+ his Sten SM aged 6. Aged 18 proud owner of a... Well. Not quite ! Probably at my best on vert ramps 🛹 that year!
My Late Grand dad fought in N.Af. with Mil Sig. Int etc. Came back late in the war as a Sergeant filled with mine shrapnel. Apparently he knew some of the Goons. I met him inside his potting shed- a London garden bomb shelter in the late 1960s as a young boy.
I believe my late Canadian Uncle was more clandestine. Multiple languages etc.
similar to how Mattel was making plastic components for the M16 during vietnam because they were already experts in plastic moldings
@@jameskazd9951 exactly that mate, all the necessary equipment in place to make em 👍
1 Sterling Pound.was a crappy spreader .
Compared to the also steel.pressed Mg40.
Design is one.
Acccuracy is another..
There is also that most deadly of weapons, the pencil.
Pencils suck! However Bic pens are a different matter..
@@ferdonandebullTactical pen even,
one of the favorite gun holsters of the OSS/SOE was twine tied in a loop, wrapped around ones belt then fed through itself. it would hold the firearm inside the waistband but if one had to throw the firearm away the twine could be removed quickly and put in a pocket or thrown on the ground and it was just another piece of trash.
Hi Tommy, I love your lessons. We will need this knowledge in the USA very soon I think.
Not just the USA my friend . Here too in the UK. Things are now getting worse day by day. Strength to you and a united USA and UK. 🇬🇧👍💪💪💪🇺🇸
Soe sounds like edc in America today . I thoroughly enjoyed your history lesson
Very beautiful colection. These soldier fighted against all.. And winned witha lot of losses.
With the wood stick, you can weight it with a metal bolt. Drill into the end and add a metal bolt. If you drill the hole too loose, use epoxy to secure the bolt into the wood. A longer one is sold in North American gas stations as Tire Knockers. They used to always have a bolt in them but now I've started seeing boltless ones. As an 18" piece of solid hickory, it is still a useful tool without the bolt. For the stick in the video, you get little impact with a solid grip, but with a cord you can get more of a Sap impact with it.
Family member was an MP back in the 50's. Said they'd get called in during interservice bar brawls (Army vs. Navy; Navy vs. Marines, etc.) off-base on weekends. The minute they walked in it was everybody against the MP's. Didn't end well for them, the pine billy clubs they were given would bust after a few good licks, then it was outnumbered guys with fists. After a couple times coming off on the losing end they went and had their clubs bored and filled with lead weights. After that just a flick of the wrist and they layed their targets out cold.
"Tire Billies" were still a favorite of truck drivers in the 1970's. Back then, they had about a two-inch wide metal band around the business end. Truckers would claim they weren't weapons, but tools used to thump the dual tires, to ensure they had air pressure and weren't just hanging there supported by the other tire. Even people who weren't truckers (like me) carried them -- with some kind of 'cover story' to describe a legitimate 'tool' type of use. Now-a-days, a 'fish billy; can be carried along with a tackle box or fishing pole and probably get you out of a jam with the cops if you're caught with it.
@@yepiratesworkshop7997
I have several tire billys.
Wood with a metal band around the top
Wood with heavy bar in the center
And
One of aluminum that looks like a baby basebal bat.
I was an OTR semi truck driver for years.
We would use short crowbars or lug wrenches too.
I am now a half crippled old man so having this tire checker in my car is accepted and a nice possible first responder tool. unless or when my 1911 or Walther ppq are the only viable choices i have at the time.
FANTASTIC! The SOE certainly had numerous ways of eliminating the enemy. A trained operative could in fact be a one-oerson clandestine arsenal.
I admire and envy the hell out of your weapons collection, sir.
And those look to me like they've seen action.
Fantastic video. Nice job.👍🇺🇸
Wait a minute, are we the baddies?
I haven't seen any skulls, so probably not.
Nice video and great collection. Looking forward to more of your videos!
There are more exciting SOE/OSS agents, i am sure. But for me, i have picked Peter J. Ortiz based on available information. Hollywood wouldnt make a movie about him because his accolades were unbelievable. FFL para with combat jumps prior to WW2, joined US military and was on his way to EU, and his ship was torpedoed and sunk. Walked into a tavern full of Waffen SS, and forced them to sing The Marine Corps Hymn. Another SS battalion was Convinced that they were fighting a company size element, but it was only Peter and 2 partisans!!!!!😅😅😅😅 love this vid do right!
Brilliant mate, i really enjoyed that...nice collection too. 👌
Good vid, interesting. You have a nice collection there.
One thing I would note is that the marlin spike is for rope work, not leather or canvas stitching. Used in splicing and knotting.
Hi Tommy, my take would be a snubby Colt or a 1903 small semiautomatic, the 1911 without a good holster would print on a small fellow like me. I saw some samples of "Fitz" adaptations of the S&W British Service revolver, one is featured in "Small Arms" by Maj. Myatt, my guess was that it came from SOE, due to Applegate's influence but it may be not the case.
clothing was more bulky in the 30s and 40s and more layers were worn.
No the Fitz is named after a American name Roy Fitz. He had a amazing life
Hello Tommy I really enjoy your videos.there is a very good museum which I'm sure you would really like-Parham Suffolk British resistance museum (Churchills secret army)
Been there mate - loved it
Thanks for letting us know about Parham, I will visit, look and learn.
I already like your channel! I appreciate your practical knowledge and sense of application! Please keep them coming!!!
Interesting! I would guess that an agent would be UNARMED 95% of the time as they move through society trying to blend into the social fabric of the community. I would think if an agent was stopped and they were armed it would be a little suspicious, since most of the population would be unarmed.
However the other 5% of the time, makes perfect sense.
I would guess that unarmed combative skills and the use of improvised weapons were very important skills. However being a true Gray Man would be the best defense. Well done and very interesting. 👍🏻
With the exception of outright assassination missions, the name of the game was to have no confrontations if at all possible. Not only would the odds of death or capture rise exponentially, but it could compromise entire networks and undo months or years worth of work in that area.
There was also the reality that if someone killed one of their own, the Nazis would think nothing of rounding up and executing a couple hundred people from the nearby village in retaliation.
Unless you were a Jew or a known communist or social democrat it would ironically be very easy to get a gun legally in Nazi Germany. The average person in Nazi Germany could legally carry a pistol, while most people in "democratic" UK couldn't.
This is one of the reasons that I never did military service here in Sweden, btw. I would NEVER fight for a country where it isn't my right as a private citizen to own and carry a gun.
It wasn't codified as a right in Germany. What happened under Nazi rule is that regulations were loosened (except of course for Jews), but handguns still required permits, and the police maintained records of purchases.
@@kenofken9458 Yes, but it was still much easier to get a gun than in the UK. And Germany before 1920 had no national gun law at all, and in Austria-Hungary it was a shall-issue, while people in the UK needed a permit from 1903. The irony is that the UK claimed to have more freedom than Nazi Germany, Imperial Germany and Austria-Hungary.
If you really believe that Nazi Germany was a freer place than the UK, there's really no helping you.
Jolly good show,really enjoyed it!!!
the sten didn't like mud and grit, but you could run it under a tap through the spout to clean out the chamber which is handy in a French farm yard after you slept in the hay loft and fell in the pig stye,
Very interesting and informative. Nice collection!
Nice to see Tommy back on you tube. The way things are going.we are going to need to know how best to defend ourselfs.
Your content is great!
Oohh that Fairbairn fighting knife is so beautiful so elegant and yet so deadly❤🌹
P.S. I'm glad you British soldiers helped us Dutch People in ww2.
Much love and thanks ❤
Yeah, but if Germany won - Europe - Would Still be White! Look @ the Terrible effect Mass Illegal Immigrant Invasion is having on All Western Countries!
I think we fought the Wrong Enemy in WW2 - If only we had helped Germany defeat the Bolshevik Red Terror - the World would be in a better place Today! No Woke DEI Diversity Hires & LGBTQ- PDFiles 🤨
Glad to see new content from you!
Thank you for the information 😎💯
Your the mother loving best Tommy.
One book I read suggested when it came to handguns like ones made in Spain were common because they were harder to trace back. I heard the gun used in the assassination of Admiral Darland was a Walther PPK which may have come from the SOE.
Enjoyed the video.
Your eloquence and explanations
Are reasonable and informative.
A taste of operative apparatus to whet the appetite of your viewers.
I was quite lucky that i, in Forward area intelligence, was military and comfortably ensconced in a 5 member team.
Well trained, well arned, well motivated as well as well determined to avoid contact.
That not being part of our mission parameter.
Granted that was not always the case. Occasionally unavoidable. However extracation was always successful and without casualty to our team.
For us it was an MBR, M-16 or when the gods of combat (command) would allow a much more useful rifle to us, the M-14.
Rarely a bayonet but definitely a combat knife of 6 inch blade minimum. Mine was a lovely Camillus others utilized were Kabars or personally obtained ones that have passed approval most often having passed a series of tests for utility and effectiveness.
A sidearm which in my case and the fellows i ran with came in one of three flavors.
1911A1 ( my preference)
Colt or Smith and Wesson 38 special 4 inch barreled or the better
3rd flavor and preferred revolver,
357 magnum.
As we were snoopers
We also carried cameras and target painting lasers, then the size of a suitcase.
Followed by the usual rations and aid gear. Minimal in number as we were not long in the field.
Ours while it involved our cold (felt awful hot sometimes) war with communism. Was well supported and nothing like the missions of
Intelligence operatives, war time or not. We none the less were kitted out for our jobs.
Your SOE like our intel units as well were extraordinarily courageous persons and while the gear they had access to was good it was not enough.
Thank goodness they always carried their biggest and most effective weapon at all times.
Their mind.
Great video, i did enjoy your excellent presentation.
0:30 - A word from the bairn !
1:05 - Stenson Machine gun
2:35 - Colt M1911 Handgun
4:10 - Fairbairn sykes knife
5:15 - Jack knife
6:35 - Sap
7:35 - Blackjack/Cosh
8:00 - Sap variant
8:40 - Truncheon
9:15 - Knuckleduster
10:15 - Daggers
10:55 - Thumb knife
12:00 - Fake cigar
12:35 - Recap
13:10 - Unarmed strikes
13:50 - Walking armory
14:40 - Conclusion
Real good 👍
Great video. The idea of unarmed combat is a last resort action as a consequence of having made other mistakes is true for civilian self defence also. My experience bears this out, awareness and avoidance is the best self defence.
Straight razors would have been very common and carrying one would not mark you out automatically as an agent.
Thanks, I put them all on to get the mail. The Sten keeps everyone very polite, Im in Los Angeles with biden.
Good old blackjack
The P35 was/is popular for non uniform work because of its thin profile, particularly if grips are removed, and its 13 round mag. Carried in a belt the weapon and ammo could be disposed of instantly if required.
Sten was an insult to the brave men who carried them into battle. No accuracy, unreliable, too slow for 'spray and pray' unlike the Soviet PPS.
Thanks for the vid, was surprised to see back street brawling weapons featuring so highly.
they air dropped the stens, resistance used them to capture enemy weapons
Most civilians dont realize how many weapons are all around them. You only have to use your imagination
man , i want a Sten gun and a 1911 and a Fairburn and a Sap and Brass knuckles and a Thumb dagger and ............
The misunderstanding with knuckle dusters is to put weight and muscle behind the punch
Their most efficient deployment is fast flicky jabs and hooks
Being faster is a huge advantage and the dusters amplify the power of fast punches. That now are literally bone shattering.
Huzzah! A favorite topic of mine.
Love from Sweden
I really don't know why but 27 seconds in the video and I was washed over with memories of Wallace and Gromit. Just like I had a bucket of cold water poored over my head and that rush of shock... Was Wallace and Gromit. wtf. I'm profusely confused, perplexed even. Yet astonished. Edit: Great video!
I've done a lot of time in prison and I got really good at making shanks. Usually cut from a 3/8 inch plate shelf or bed leg. It's a process and not easy. But in shaping them I always used the FS dagger as my mental template. Can't exactly put an edge but I can bevel
a french company, Station IX, manufactures modern SOE accessories.
great video
Muy bueno!!
On the jack knife with Marlin spike, most fisherman carried one. As they are a necessary tool on a fishing boat.
And ice picks were also used. In various lengths and handle materials. They were also very easy to conceal on your person.
My pop Was a z man in Malaya,and got taught how to use a blow pipe from the native and also had a little liberator ,and a revover with a sling on th handle, he was friends with Jack sue
I have what may be a rare prototype dagger made around these times, or prior. I posted it on my channel if you mind taking a look. Its a massive cast brass casted handled 18 inch square blade club / dagger.
I cant find any info on it yet. But it definitely resembles stuff used by many during WW1 - 2.
Good video bud thanks
SOE agent are usually equipped with colt hammerless 1903 pocket chambered in 32. Acp nice video
Where is the piano wire watch ,BOND had one 👍😂
That was evil SPECTRE assassin Donald "Red" Grant (Robert Shaw); who tried to strangle Bond with his garrote wire from his wrist-watch
Aww Yeah!
Love the video Tommy. The saps especialy.
Great Video ! Say NO to the .45 Cal. that was designed to kill horses in a Calvary charge ! (Might make you like the CIA or an American...) Carry a 9mm Pistol to go with your carbine ! My cutting tool of choice is the SOG Trident with the Seat Belt slot cutter that is also great for cutting twine on bales of hay ! My other cutting tool is the EMT shears... Also the Pen is mightier than the sword ! ! ! (Maxpedition Tactical Pen model A... with glass Breaker and can unscrew the clip end and place over the Glass Breaker and make the pen look friendly.) tjl
Didn’t they get shown on how to use the garrotte?
He's in the UK I think it's even illegal for him to have his knuckles. I'm sure you would have showcased it but very wise that you pointed that out. Pray for the disarmed UK.
Interesting story on the Garotte. It did feature early on in the US - but
didn't feature on the SOE curricula (that we have). Though we had the Peskett device which was a knife, garotte and cosh in one - but it wasn't widely used
Hey Tommy, wow awesome video brother! Where i can get those spikes around 10 minute? I NEED SOME !!! :D Gave you sub too ,)
Is that ukiyoe of Musashi killing a snake?.. Good content!!!
STATION IX
Isn't this the guy that plays the ukulele and sings funny songs?
Entendí que en una parte pusieron "Luger P38". La Luger y la Walther P38 son armas diferentes.
Fairbairn Sykes dagger isn’t a survival knife, it’s the opposite, designed for efficient dispatching of the enemy.
Which is exactly what he stated in the video, making your comment utterly pointless.
Subscribed😊
Bye the way, byrna guns are fantastic.
Nice
Which of those cold weapons are allowed to carry in 🇬🇧?
None!
are your guns live or deactivated, I'm curious? the one item in the thumbnail I wanted to see you didn't show. it looked like a stabbing weapon with a thumb hold or something, it reminds me of a giant sewing pin the sort that holds material in place. not the thumb blade that's not what I'm talking about.
In your thumbnail it looks like the pistol is a German Deutchwerks .32 correct??? Or am I seeing things???
Hi there. Great video, thank you for sharing. I am puzzled, because I have recently seen many YT vids showing that the KNUCKLE DUSTERS should be used over the SECOND knuckles of the fingers, and NOT how you show....... Sorry if I seem agressive but hey, how are these supposed to be worn ? Cheers mate
Talk to me about knuckle dusters Sensei, and all of your World War II combatives and bartitsu research what did you learn about these bad boys? What's the proper Form and Function so you don't screw your hand up? I also learned that there was some stupid law passed where you guys had to destroy them in the UK but hopefully he can keep those because you're an instructor and it's an antique.
want that fairben saying on a shirt
where can i get a sap like those
well said
Fairbairn would have “done for you”, armed or not…….
Nice met .
Does the spike shown in the thumbnail and not featured in the video have a specific designation or just another spike?
Ничего не понял. Но хулиганский набор класс
What is the point of these really long spikes in SOE OSS ww1-ww2 photos? Were they meant to go into the heart of the bad guy? I don't get it. You see the way that these guys use tools they want to things to be as quick and as efficient as possible but there's only one off switch I know for a spiked tool and you really don't need that much length. It's obviously the Brainstem. My research is kind of slacking but from from tactical combat systems Matie suggested the spike tool won't stop a major organ like the heart because it will continue to function with small pin holes. I think he made the same point for major organs like the liver lungs and kidneys.
All of his blade work is done for counterterrorism so I don't want you to get the wrong vibe from this comment that's the only reason I study this stuff. He suggested a edged weapon that has a blade length about 4 in" because you can go in and slash out causing maximum damage on the Armed bad guy.
I'm very confused about the spikes. From my amateur standpoint I'm just going to guess and say maybe the neck jugs and carrots maybe the airway maybe the subclavian and heart area maybe the kidney. If it's more of a artery punching tool that makes sense considering what you could do with a pen defensively. I just don't get the really goofy long spikes overall. They seem cumbersome and unwieldy. And almost dangerous to the user. But when you bring up the double-edged Fairburn dagger that's a very lightweight efficient tool that can slash and stab it makes perfect sense as a combatives tool. Little puzzled here on the historical reason behind it. If you have any feedback for why I'm all ears.
How do you own guns in Britain?
*S.O.E. Death-Awls.*
SUPER MARIO
Neat
Are the guns replicas?
This video is a bit misleading. It gives the false impression that all the items you show were official SOE issue, but they were not. Only four: the Sten; the Fairbairn-Sykes fighting knife; the thumb knife, and the spike dagger, are confirmed to have been issued by S.O.E.
You can visit the imperial war museum's website and see SOE Issued:
Knuckledusters
Coshes / trunchons (sprung and unsprung)
The British Army Jackknife is ubiquitous standard issue
The 45 was part of weapons training at the STCs alongside the 1903 and 1908 (and many more besides)
The thumb dagger is SOE
The longer lapel dagger / spike is SOE
And even where not SOE orientated you can clearly see items of this ilk in OSS, LRGD, The Auxiliary Units
It's an informal video and a bit of fun to add context to what is mainly an unarmed channel
@@TommyMooreww2combativesThank you for your response. The 1911 was trained on, but was too
big and bulky to be carried covertly, plus .45 calibre ammunition was not readily available for it in occupied countries. Naturally any existing weapon could have been used by an SOE agent, but that does not mean it was officially issued by the organization. For example, SOE had their own purpose-made cosh available in the equipment catalog, and it was not any of the examples you show.
Still a good video, but I think it is important to clarify that most of those items were not SOE "issued".
Hello. Did all this tool are genuine from the 40's or are they reproductions??
Jackknife is 40's - rest are repros for demos
I would think originals, especially those with any documentation and provenance, would be rather pricey these days.
I'm not sure SOE gear was the most likely to turn up as surplus after the war either. Intelligence agencies don't like advertising means and methods even after wars are finished.
s o e stands for ?
Special Operations Executive.
get rid of the brass m8 they banned them
A f ing envelope, since you British were the postal service of ww1 and 2,can't win a battle 😂😂😂😂
Let's not forget the whooping of the English hooligans by the Russkies ultras in Marseille EURO 2016,,,never laugh HARDER 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sten is a worthless weapon.
Maybe, but better than no SMG at all, which was the realistic alternative at the time.
That surely depends on whether you're in front of it or behind it?
I am sure that a great number of dead Nazis and Axis forces who would disagree with as the Sten was the thing that killed them
That is what the C.I.A. carried before they turned commie, they got better weapons now 😢😅!