.357 mag vs .44 mag - Drywall Test

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  • @joearokis8265
    @joearokis8265 2 роки тому +592

    I bet if the .44 mag had the extra 2 inches of barrel that the .357 had, it would have gone through more sheets than it did. I always try to keep barrel length the same when comparing two rounds.

    • @philippewhitty3049
      @philippewhitty3049 Рік тому +1

      Speed and diameter...

    • @joejose2022
      @joejose2022 Рік тому +1

      @@philippewhitty3049 what do you mean by that?

    • @philippewhitty3049
      @philippewhitty3049 Рік тому +1

      @@joejose2022 The smaller diameter and the speed, that important for penetration.

    • @joejose2022
      @joejose2022 Рік тому +50

      @@philippewhitty3049 the original commenter was saying that you lose velocity with shorter barrels. The difference between a 2 in barrel and a 4 in barrel would be significant. If the 44 mag was a 4 in barrel it would have a greater velocity and better penetration.

    • @brutebiz82
      @brutebiz82 Рік тому +9

      Paul Harrell has disproved the barrel length notion several times with many makes of revolvers.

  • @billellington9754
    @billellington9754 2 роки тому +1076

    Anybody who doesn't like 357 and 44 magnum just ain't American

  • @mike1967sam
    @mike1967sam 24 дні тому +7

    This is insane. I thought maybe 7 or 8 for the .357 and about 10 for the .44...This is a great video especially for people out there who want a concealed carry permit and think - "No, I need something with real stopping a 357 isn't enough, I need a 44.". It's true that the 44 does do more damage but the 357 will go through practically anything the 44 will. Amazing video. Mike.

  • @keenobservations3050
    @keenobservations3050 2 роки тому +13

    Space in between each sheet changes the final number. With blowout of the back of the drywall would allow more sheets or less sheets of penetration. The tightly packed sheets cause the rounds to compact the drywall. Need to space the dry wall by 4 inches to get a good reading on what really happens.

  • @chrisharmon8858
    @chrisharmon8858 2 роки тому +26

    I feel like I'm watching the count on sesame street. "1 sheet of drywall...hmm, hmm, hmm. 2 sheets of drywall ...hmm, hmm, hmm"

    • @jamesgoodwin1155
      @jamesgoodwin1155 2 роки тому

      Guess he made this video before building materials shot through the roof.

    • @kendodd8734
      @kendodd8734 2 роки тому

      Great post pmsl

    • @kensan8204
      @kensan8204 2 місяці тому

      😂

  • @Shooter-rj6rb
    @Shooter-rj6rb 2 роки тому +90

    Drywall is notorious for inhibiting expansion in most hollow point rounds. No hydrostatic pressure to expand the projectile against the hard drywall around it.

    • @phild9813
      @phild9813 2 роки тому +6

      Yeah definitely. The larger holes going through the drywall were from the bullets tumbling. Great video.

    • @loochan325
      @loochan325 2 роки тому +5

      Hydrostatic shock expand some wet ass when the bulett is supersonic, not the bulett. For bulett expansion you need a more cavernous holowpoint, higher diameter holow and soft lead not hardcast, or corbone with a hard ball placed in a similar conic shape cavernous soft bulett, or EFMJ that have radial striated FMJ over a front soft elastomer part placed over a back weight.

    • @tommypackwood1013
      @tommypackwood1013 2 роки тому +2

      Remember, solid nose bullets penetrate much farther than hollow point

    • @Sman7290
      @Sman7290 2 роки тому +1

      It also instantly plugs the hollow cavity, eliminating expansion, and basically turning it into a ball round.

  • @HateClickBait
    @HateClickBait 4 місяці тому +15

    Test inconclusive. Unequal barrel lengths.

    • @knowone8671
      @knowone8671 14 днів тому +1

      I thought the same thing but the 44 magnum still outperformed

    • @HateClickBait
      @HateClickBait 14 днів тому

      @@knowone8671 That's true, sir.

  • @beyproctor7673
    @beyproctor7673 Рік тому +9

    Good video idea! I once toured a business that fitted bullet proof panels into cars! Awesome stuff. Your family is lucky to have you testing the technology.
    Oh yeah, I think the lack of expansion made for a better test. Those unexpanded hollow points penetrated much more than if they had mushroomed. Better test the next idea using fmj just to be sure.

  • @johnknouse8846
    @johnknouse8846 2 роки тому +61

    That’s a beautiful Ruger 44 mag snubbie! I would have guessed about 12-15 sheets at most. Surprising results! Wondering if the hollow points got packed with drywall, which stopped the expansion.

    • @InlinePaul
      @InlinePaul Рік тому

      Yeah, round nose full metal jacket would probably go deeper.

    • @sherryneglia4804
      @sherryneglia4804 Рік тому +5

      Definitely I'd say

  • @halfcirclehranch6877
    @halfcirclehranch6877 2 роки тому +299

    Interesting story from a police officer. A woman was trying to scare her husband (who liked to beat the hell out of her), so she shot the wall next to him with a .357 Magnum. The bullet passed through two interior walls, punched its way out through the outside brick wall, flew into the neighbor's yard, between the neighbor's legs, and punched a hole through his lawnmower's engine. He didn't know what happened. Just all the sudden his lawn mower stopped. He looked and there was a stream of oil coming out of the engine. He didn't have any idea what happened until the police showed up at his neighbor's house and traced the bullet path to his lawn mower.

    • @itsjustjoe3790
      @itsjustjoe3790 2 роки тому +24

      Shoulda bought a Deere.

    • @Rick-hx1ne
      @Rick-hx1ne 2 роки тому +5

      Yike it should be more careful it too much power would go thru I wouldn't want to use too much power the best way is used wiser to shoot with with 9mm pistol I don't want to be trouble hurting someone to be sued . 9mm it should be alright. 9mm would go to 10 walls maybe I m guessing.

    • @garyevans3421
      @garyevans3421 2 роки тому +2

      Nine looks small in comparison to these revolver rounds, but it has pretty good penetration. Your guess as to how many sheets sounds pretty good, so shooting from inside a normal house rather than from one end to the other would probably come out and threaten others!

    • @stephenkluz9733
      @stephenkluz9733 2 роки тому +36

      Unlikely it would have gone through the brick and still have enough energy to damage that lawn mower.

    • @thekochdieselskils5506
      @thekochdieselskils5506 2 роки тому +30

      The officers I’ve seen in action couldn’t find their own ass with both hands, I’m calling BS on that.

  • @willnewberry8369
    @willnewberry8369 2 роки тому +4

    I'm surprised, never thought they'd go that far . Good job , thank you.

  • @Redhawk_44
    @Redhawk_44 2 роки тому +1

    Loved this video, I have both of these guns. Keep up the great work!

  • @johngiannini697
    @johngiannini697 2 роки тому +126

    The barrels should be the same such as 4" or 6" instead of 4" verses 2 1/2".

    • @1803cannon
      @1803cannon 2 роки тому +9

      I agree. Losing a lot of pressure with the short barrel.

    • @nickyd.4695
      @nickyd.4695 2 роки тому +4

      You're on the money!!!

    • @thatguy-art6229
      @thatguy-art6229 2 роки тому +1

      Why is that even important. The simple tech data from the mfg should answer your question - if you think it is important. Otherwise you are just playing with.....

    • @johngiannini697
      @johngiannini697 2 роки тому +6

      @@thatguy-art6229 Well here is the difference the shorter barrel expels the slug quicker and in so doing a lot of unburnt power and pressure with it. The longer barrel give the slug more speed because of the longer barrel. The simple tech data needs be examined for what barrel length the information was obtained from.

    • @joewoodchuck3824
      @joewoodchuck3824 2 роки тому +5

      I'm sure he'd be willing to do the test with equal length barrels if you give him whatever meets your technical standards.

  • @GrantOakes
    @GrantOakes 2 роки тому +240

    Barrel length makes a major difference too as it captures more energy from the cartridge to propel the round. If the .44 Mag had a longer barrel to match the .357 it would have probably gone through 2 more sheets of drywall.

  • @henryhallmann4282
    @henryhallmann4282 2 роки тому +26

    In the “good old days” we used rolls of newspapers to stuff inside the walls where insulation would be placed. A .38 makes an excellent home protection gun as the bullet has less of a chance of wall penetration as do larger calibers and when a .38 enters the body it tends to bounce off the ribs inside the body , causing a lot of damage.

    • @grindfreakmike5754
      @grindfreakmike5754 Рік тому

      Like a m16 round does.

    • @henryhallmann4282
      @henryhallmann4282 Рік тому

      @peter - you dumb

    • @jasonmedcalf2707
      @jasonmedcalf2707 Рік тому

      @@grindfreakmike5754 Neither bullets "bounce" The 223 round shatters and those pieces create multiple wound channels.

    • @justusbryant7366
      @justusbryant7366 4 місяці тому

      Ummmm 38 sucks 😂

    • @INUAGAIN
      @INUAGAIN 16 днів тому

      isn't a .357 Mag bullet smaller than a .38? Doesn't it always penetrate better than a .38 with the same grains of powder?

  • @abnoco
    @abnoco 2 роки тому +5

    My guess was 16 layers. I have no experience with either gun or caliber but I figured drywall doesn’t put up much resistance. It would be good to see if spacing with 2x4s changes anything, or fiberglass insulation.

    • @keenobservations3050
      @keenobservations3050 2 роки тому

      Ditto said something similar. I’ve seen watermelons stop a .357. And I’ve seen ten explode from the same test.

  • @stroys7061
    @stroys7061 2 роки тому +9

    I have a Ruger 44 mag with 7 1/2 inch barrel. I stacked 12 inches of fully dried treated lumber left over from a deck build. It included two 4x4’s and four 5/4 inch decking lumber. All of it was several years old and very hard. I used Garret 310 grain hard cast bullets from about 10 feet. I fired two bullets. Both were stopped at 9 inches penetration and did not deform much. I bought the garrets to take on a backpacking trip into grizzle bear country (Bob Marshall, Montana). One member of our party carried a 475 Linebaugh and I carried the 44 mag. Everyone else carried bear spray as did I.
    I wanted to be sure my rounds would penetrate and crush bone. I’m satisfied with the power. It is not fun to shoot that heavy load but put 44 special in it and there is very little recoil.

  • @robertgitzen8227
    @robertgitzen8227 2 роки тому +16

    Both turned into an FMJ, common dry wall issue. Good vid!

  • @Ghoststar2009
    @Ghoststar2009 Рік тому +10

    Great video; I would suggest using 2x6 framing with cement board over blue-board and fill the hollow with gravel and sand - 5.5 inches of gravel and sand may seem heavy, but it's not that heavy and I am pretty sure such a wall with a total of 8.5 depth and a hollow filled with 5.5 inches of sand and something like bluestone gravel will stop the magnums and likely even rifle rounds. Maybe you could make a small version and test it. Good luck. David

    • @stoveboltlvr3798
      @stoveboltlvr3798 Рік тому

      Maybe a sheet of 1/8" steel added for good measure. You're right though, that gravel fill would go a long, long way.

    • @mykehunt2430
      @mykehunt2430 4 місяці тому

      I was talking to a home inspector and he said he got into the wall of his 1920s farmhouse here in Michigan in the cavities were full of sand. I told him at least his house was bulletproof.

  • @KantoCacho
    @KantoCacho 2 роки тому +1

    Damn re-upload an old video from 3 years ago and it got more views good for you. Nice video very informative as I'm looking to buy a revolver but haven't decided on caliber

  • @randalbigirvirvin1153
    @randalbigirvirvin1153 2 роки тому +88

    I'm completely amazed at how many layers were penatrated

    • @thepapergoomba9390
      @thepapergoomba9390 2 роки тому +13

      That's what your mom said to me last night

    • @tomprice3513
      @tomprice3513 2 роки тому +4

      The Paper Goomba ur real cool what are u 12

    • @thepapergoomba9390
      @thepapergoomba9390 2 роки тому +3

      @@tomprice3513 Yes 12/10 in looks according to ur mom

    • @eliferguson3422
      @eliferguson3422 2 роки тому +1

      @@thepapergoomba9390 ain't going to lie, that was a good comeback.

    • @wehrewulf
      @wehrewulf 2 роки тому +1

      penetrated

  • @raymondproulx1095
    @raymondproulx1095 2 роки тому +54

    If barrel lengths were the same, I feel the 44 Mag would have made it through a few more layers. Great video.

    • @paradiswest4395
      @paradiswest4395 2 роки тому +4

      That was the first thing I noticed was the barrel lengths are not the same

    • @sirshootsalott
      @sirshootsalott 2 роки тому +4

      Yea hate when people try to do videos like this but they don’t use the same ammo in all the different calibers or different barrel lengths and expect it to be a accurate test it’s one thing to title it shooting drywall but idk

    • @RU2AIM
      @RU2AIM 2 роки тому +1

      @@sirshootsalott I once did a comparison between a Cadillac and an oil fryer to see which one made the best Tie-dye T-shirts using spoiled sour cream on one and used transmission fluid on the other.

    • @sirshootsalott
      @sirshootsalott 2 роки тому

      @@RU2AIM sounds lit

    • @RU2AIM
      @RU2AIM 2 роки тому

      Yeah, I'll have to admit I believe I was. 😉

  • @crankybuzzard6867
    @crankybuzzard6867 Рік тому

    Thats crazy..... Nice job. Really enjoyed it!

  • @daqt6079
    @daqt6079 Рік тому +39

    I guessed 12 sheets for the 44 mag. For the 357 I wasn’t sure if it would be a few sheets more or a few less. But wow, both are impressive! After seeing this I’m thinking a 500 S&W mag would probably go through all of them. Great test and thank you for doing it!

    • @vincesmith764
      @vincesmith764 6 місяців тому

      and don,t foreget the broken/damaged wrist cartlidge in shooting hand.

    • @BeingRealSavage
      @BeingRealSavage 4 місяці тому

      @@vincesmith764 what called short barrel revolver ? 44 magnums or

    • @leecowell8165
      @leecowell8165 3 місяці тому

      @@vincesmith764 yeah hear you there. If one is firing a 50 tell you what that better have a long barrel and you'd want some weight on that thing as well.

    • @vincesmith764
      @vincesmith764 3 місяці тому

      @@leecowell8165 understood. i,m getting maturerer .every year. same goes with my .357,s. :)

  • @kartofflespotato2350
    @kartofflespotato2350 2 роки тому +38

    Looking forward to this, always like real world demonstrations, cuz nobody has stacks of pumpkins in their homes but drywall is everywhere.

  • @samthai818
    @samthai818 2 роки тому +29

    I was only expecting 4 or 6 sheets of penetration. The 44 mag is a few inches shorter. I think the 44 gains 25 to 50 fps per inch of additional length which translates to 12 to 25 ft/lbs energy per inch. Which may add an additional 1 to two more sheets of penetration. In any regards, this was an interesting test. Thank you.

  • @johnchen9930
    @johnchen9930 Рік тому +3

    Drywall is made of gypsum powder, very loose and soft. If you put one layer of ceramic tile of the same thickness as the second and fourth layer, I guess both guns will stop at the 5th layer drywall.

  • @ralphcrosby9622
    @ralphcrosby9622 2 роки тому

    Good simple study of power. Reminds me of the old Box O Truth testing. Good Job!

  • @billdye3530
    @billdye3530 2 роки тому +14

    I've been carrying same ammo in Taurus 627 but time for a change unless using it in bear territory. I thought maybe 10 to 12 sheets. Surprising video on over penetration. Thanks

  • @billystink4611
    @billystink4611 2 роки тому +3

    Epic, look forward to seeing more tests :)

  • @billjoat
    @billjoat Рік тому

    Pretty amazing. After seeing you shoot both, I'm glad I have the .357 myself since the .44 almost broke your wrist!!

  • @kenhill5713
    @kenhill5713 11 місяців тому

    Enjoyed watching your video. Thanks.

  • @possumpopper89
    @possumpopper89 2 роки тому +5

    I’ve shot auto pistols thru drywall before and they penetrated 14-15 layers. I spaced my drywall layers about an inch apart. A 5.56 rifle penetrated about 9 layers with fragments past the 3rd layer.

  • @hilohaw
    @hilohaw 2 роки тому +19

    I've seen some safe rooms designed to have layers of 3/4" plywood and layers of sheet metal, in addition to drywall. Seeing this experiment makes me think that might be a good idea.

    • @markw999
      @markw999 2 роки тому +5

      The sheet metal helps a lot. Did this experiment years ago. I think the result was 5 layers of 1/2 inch with sheet metal between each (.357). Looonnng time ago though.

  • @ninline2000
    @ninline2000 2 роки тому +18

    I actually guessed 20 sheets for the .357 and 24 for the .44 magnum. Not really surprising that the rounds didn't expand, the drywall is too soft to cause the rounds to mushroom. Considering how a .22 can punch through drywall you have to know these high power rounds can really penetrate.

    • @hanc37
      @hanc37 Рік тому +1

      It proves that magnums are not good for home defense unless you live alone and don't have any neighbors nearby.

  • @planker
    @planker Рік тому +1

    Good presentation, for me the.357 is the best shooting cal. however the Mag part might get me sued if I had to use it in defense. That's why I recommend the 45ACP for all carry needs. It won't go through boards like butter but splits melons just fine.

  • @sweetdrahthaar7951
    @sweetdrahthaar7951 2 роки тому +7

    I’ve had 357‘s for decades and have only fired a 44 magnum a few times decades ago. Have no desire to own a 44 but I’ll watch any comparison between the two. Thanks for the video sir👍🏻

    • @bradhaines3142
      @bradhaines3142 2 роки тому

      i want a 44 magnum lever action rifle, bout as small as id go for that big of a boom

    • @sweetdrahthaar7951
      @sweetdrahthaar7951 2 роки тому +1

      @@bradhaines3142 Lever actions and revolvers are my favorites. And if I had to choose I’d probably go single action on the revolver. How’s that for being old-fashioned😂 I’ve kept some of those around for decades now all in 357/38. People are really liking the Henry’s. We’ll see what Ruger does with Marlin. If they can get anywhere near the JB stamped Marlin products, those will be hard to beat.

    • @bradhaines3142
      @bradhaines3142 2 роки тому

      @@sweetdrahthaar7951 i want to get a CC license and a pistol with all the fixings (good holster and such for it, pile of ammo, etc) but soon as i get all that, im getting a henry. they look so nice, the design is so classic. and in large pistol caliber are reasonably punchy in both directions

    • @sweetdrahthaar7951
      @sweetdrahthaar7951 2 роки тому +1

      @@bradhaines3142 You can’t go wrong with a Henry.. they are doing a real nice job on their products and quality control as far as I know is real good. Here’s a quick Henry story: I bought one of their 22s secondhand. Can’t remember the model number but it’s an octagon barrel. This has been quite a while ago and upgrade wood kits were available back then so I called them up and said I’d like to dress mine up a little with some figured word. They said we don’t do that anymore but we’ve got lots of wood sets. I said well pick one of the better ones you’ve got and I’ll buy it. They said we’ll send you the best we have no charge. And they did. They said if it’s not better than what you’ve got just go ahead and keep it. It wasn’t really better than what was on the rifle but I’ve got an extra set of furniture now. That’s a pretty impressive company in my opinion👍🏻

  • @811stever
    @811stever 2 роки тому +6

    Pretty cool test... I guessed 18, and was thinking too bad the barrels weren't the same length but it looks like it didn't make a big difference.
    Another test would be a drywall-Stud-drywall stack up.

  • @brianklamer3328
    @brianklamer3328 Рік тому +2

    I enjoyed seeing the recoil comparison between the two calibers when you held the revolvers with one hand.

    • @LoreFoundry
      @LoreFoundry Рік тому

      That 44 really looked like it broke the wrist in slow motion.

  • @davidkeith1499
    @davidkeith1499 Рік тому

    Good video, WhoTee. Actually, excellent!

  • @chrisinhotwater9896
    @chrisinhotwater9896 2 роки тому +5

    Note to self dont use drywall as cover...

  • @Casey773
    @Casey773 2 роки тому +155

    Adam, don't you think the 44magnum would have made about 4 more sheets if it had an 8 inch barrel?

    • @BlaccSuave
      @BlaccSuave 2 роки тому +6

      Of course it wldve I like snub nose heavy caliber pistols tho the intent 4 em is 2 get up close and personal

    • @cowboycarpenter8713
      @cowboycarpenter8713 2 роки тому +6

      @@BlaccSuave Rather use a 5 inch and put the barrel in their navel. and I wouldn't waste 40% of the powder charge.

    • @markbotta8567
      @markbotta8567 2 роки тому +12

      Had the barrels been of equal length, the 44 would have definitely penetrated a few more boards.

    • @ronhunt9396
      @ronhunt9396 2 роки тому +5

      My 44mag Ruger has a 7in barrel. I bought it in the mid 80s. Last year I put a Leopold scope on it. Love it

    • @cowboycarpenter8713
      @cowboycarpenter8713 2 роки тому

      Maybe, but then again if the bullet was traveling faster it may have flattened the bullet more causing a larger hole and less penetration'

  • @dannybosun5158
    @dannybosun5158 4 місяці тому

    Very nice video. Well done with out all the technical, gun store, know it all, mumbo jumbo.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  4 місяці тому

      Thanks for watching

  • @gregwillis7767
    @gregwillis7767 Рік тому +1

    I too, guessed at 7 layers, because using hollow points rather than wadcutters would allow the wallboard to "clog" the hollow, reducing inertia. However, I thought the 4 inch vs 2&1/2 inch BBL, and the smaller diameter (less resistance?) Would all the .357 to travel farther. But I was guessing also.

  • @Marktk72
    @Marktk72 2 роки тому +12

    Doesn't surprise me. When you fire into something that plugs a JHP, it' becomes a FMJ. Thanks!

  • @rascal0175
    @rascal0175 2 роки тому +8

    Blast the Clay Men. They got it coming. You know, Flash Gordon had issues with the Clay Men so you’re not the first.

    • @drunkencracker8517
      @drunkencracker8517 2 роки тому +2

      Flash!!!!!!!!!!!! Ahhhhhhh savior of the universe

    • @rascal0175
      @rascal0175 2 роки тому +3

      @@drunkencracker8517 That’s our boy, circa 1930 something or other.

  • @wesleykunz3602
    @wesleykunz3602 Рік тому +1

    I have done similar test. The 44 with the same length barrel, will do a significant amount more damage. I used both in a 8 inch barrel. In my belief, you might not had quite enough drywall to stop the 44Mag. The velocity would have been a lot higher.
    Thanks for listening and for your video.

  • @johnsimpson4715
    @johnsimpson4715 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the interesting video. I'd like to see more tests including shotgun 00Buckshot. I'd also like to get the specs on the drywall, e.g. type, thickness, etc. I also wonder if air space between the layers of drywall would significantly change the results.

  • @liverpool6380
    @liverpool6380 2 роки тому +11

    20 sheet of drywall probably cost more than the bulletproof 😂

    • @bobburnitt5389
      @bobburnitt5389 2 роки тому +2

      Yes and one must think of the LOAD on the flloor and walls.

  • @robertstojcevski1098
    @robertstojcevski1098 2 роки тому +7

    Both of those calibres are nothing to sneeze at, love the look of that ruger 👍👍oh you can sure see the difference in the recoil in the slomo

  • @terragrappler1
    @terragrappler1 Рік тому

    Awesome video man!

  • @MichaelAsh-sd7hw
    @MichaelAsh-sd7hw Рік тому

    I really enjoy your video's. They help me understand firearms much better. I was raised with "long guns" but did not know "diddly" about pistols.

  • @wulfmaer8919
    @wulfmaer8919 2 роки тому +76

    So, I skipped to the end and probably missed useful details on the ammo, but here are my concerns: For a valid test you need the same length barrel on both pistols, and then as close as you can get to the same projectile weight on the ammo. I also think solid ammo would be preferential to hollow points for max penetration and more uniform performance comparison. But it was still interesting to see. Thanks for the video!

    • @stevenhuckaby2902
      @stevenhuckaby2902 2 роки тому +5

      The 44 was at a disadvantage dye to excesive wrist recoil due to the small snub nose barrel , try it again using the 7 3/4 inch barrel , like mine , Huge difference !

    • @gregpalermo3861
      @gregpalermo3861 2 роки тому

      They're comparing apples to oranges. If every thing were exactly the same then what exactly would you be comparing?

    • @roel.vinckens
      @roel.vinckens 2 роки тому

      The .44 was aimed at a lower angle as well...
      Still nice results!

    • @ralphu.7568
      @ralphu.7568 2 роки тому

      Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. Use the same length barrel.

    • @ORCs-R-Idiots
      @ORCs-R-Idiots 2 роки тому +1

      @@gregpalermo3861 Everything else except the caliber or bullet should be the same. Even the angle of penetration should be the same. The 44 was at a disadvantage regarding the barrel lenght and the downward angle. We know that longer barrel means farther distance and downward angle is like passing a thicker board.

  • @virginia7125
    @virginia7125 2 роки тому +21

    I wonder how far a 41 magnum would have penetrated? Or even a 357 maximum? The 44 may have went deeper if it had the same barrel length as the 357.

  • @charliesierra6919
    @charliesierra6919 15 днів тому

    Love your channel Who-Tee! I'm a .44 mag guy though my .357's are great too.

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  15 днів тому +1

      Appreciate you watching

  • @abnoco
    @abnoco 2 роки тому +1

    I think a good question to answer is what can we put between the Sheetrock outer wall and the inner wall to stop a bullet. What type of “insulation” can we use?

  • @penroddavis8098
    @penroddavis8098 2 роки тому +11

    Try putting an air gap between layers like going through a wall. I'll bet it is a lot different.

    • @aaronm.3581
      @aaronm.3581 2 роки тому

      I'm curious of this as well. I suspect it would travel through more sheets. You?

  • @robertharris2018
    @robertharris2018 2 роки тому +26

    Now I'm wondering how many they would go through if there was an inch of space between each piece of drywall or even a half inch.

  • @davem4169
    @davem4169 Місяць тому

    Fantastic "REAL WORLD" test Whooti, as others pointed out, the lack of expansion was due to non hydrostatic pressure, pass it through some water in a gallon jug and then through drywall and you would have stopped at 4 or 5 and good expansion

  • @jamesdeane2843
    @jamesdeane2843 2 роки тому +1

    Very informative video. I wonder what would happen if you mixed in plywood or sheet metal, along with the drywall, in your tests.

    • @sethtenrec
      @sethtenrec Рік тому

      Plywood, I was thinking the same

  • @patrickcarmichael235
    @patrickcarmichael235 2 роки тому +9

    A proper test would use same barrel lengths in the revolvers, same precise fixed rest, same weapon maker, same ammo manufacturer. Peace-good video

  • @yellowboxster06
    @yellowboxster06 2 роки тому +31

    Very informative. I'm left with the impression there's only a minimal difference between the two rounds...at least in that medium. So between the two revolvers, from a practical sense, I'd pick the 8-round version of Ruger .357 Mag and leave the .44 Mag to those protecting themselves against bears.

  • @MemphisMike901
    @MemphisMike901 2 роки тому

    For a bedside version, what size barrel you suggest? I am considering a 6” of either of these. Great vid

  • @rogerthat.112
    @rogerthat.112 2 роки тому

    Nice guns and video my guy.. stay safe.

  • @blueridgeboy7721
    @blueridgeboy7721 2 роки тому +12

    You should look into testing the 327 federal mag vs 357 magnum. That would be interesting.

    • @raywhitehead730
      @raywhitehead730 2 роки тому

      Been done, many times...look it up...

    • @douglasbeland8914
      @douglasbeland8914 2 роки тому

      I'd like to see the 44 vs. the 357 maximum. With the same length barrels

  • @dudley5658
    @dudley5658 2 роки тому +5

    Everyone said I was crazy for putting 24 layers of dry wall throughout my house. Who cares if the bed no longer fits.

    • @jorgemelchorgreco1813
      @jorgemelchorgreco1813 2 роки тому

      For safety I think is better to use bricks. May be with 24 layers you can stop a revolver bullet but not an assault rifle one.

    • @davelowets
      @davelowets 2 роки тому

      @@jorgemelchorgreco1813 Can't understand sarcasm?? 🤷🏻

  • @jeffwilson4693
    @jeffwilson4693 Рік тому

    Interesting. Thanks for testing and sharing.

  • @derekgreene2304
    @derekgreene2304 2 роки тому

    Good video sir,cheap,interesting. Didn't think they go through that many

  • @bobroberson9286
    @bobroberson9286 2 роки тому +3

    GREAT test here with unbelievable results, would love to see the same test using Buffalo Bore ammo !

  • @Cartier_specialist
    @Cartier_specialist 2 роки тому +15

    I think you'd be better off using plate steel to line your safe room. I knew your 6 or 7 sheet guess was going to be way low.

  • @TheCommissarIsDead
    @TheCommissarIsDead 2 роки тому

    That ruger tho🤙 also this guy gives me big bro vibes subbed

  • @henrycrabb9737
    @henrycrabb9737 Рік тому +1

    alternatively to putting extra layers of drywall you can put an inch of plywood then drywall.

  • @gtwolfe100
    @gtwolfe100 2 роки тому +5

    Would love to see a more real-world test of this type with a firearm. My focus is on pellet rifles and there is at least one good video where the test was done with sheets of drywall attached to 2x4 stud sections and then line up approximating actual walls of a house. It would be expected for the drywall stacked in this video to stop the rounds much faster than actual walls of a house where each 5/8" thick sheet is separated so that there is no progressive increase in resistance as material compresses in front of the round. The .22 caliber PCP air rifle punched thru something on the order of 8 sheets of drywall so I expect that if these were set up like actual framed wall sections the penetration would be at least 50% greater than in this test.

  • @PaulWolfe1
    @PaulWolfe1 2 роки тому +4

    Revealing one layer at a time was stupidly fascinating, loved the suspense.

    • @reddenitup
      @reddenitup 2 роки тому +1

      No…just Stupid ..and boring…suspense?? 😂

    • @mbjasondify
      @mbjasondify Рік тому

      How to make a 2 minute last 4 hours.

  • @JJGuccione
    @JJGuccione 9 днів тому

    Great VDO •. What about a 9 mm +P with flat nosed hard cast bullets? How many sheets of drywall?

  • @josepharchuleta3129
    @josepharchuleta3129 5 місяців тому +1

    I not only think that barrel length makes a difference but the grain of bullet changes the velocity of a bullet as well. If the .44 mag was shooting with a comparable barrel length and a comparable grain of bullet, my guess is that it would have shot through 5 or 6 more sheets than the .357 mag.

  • @Vorpal_Wit
    @Vorpal_Wit 2 роки тому +26

    Both of these rounds have significant velocity changes with barrel lenght increases. Its one of the things that makes them such great all-round survival rounds. Test them out of a lever action carbine and watch the difference it makes.

    • @davidhandyman7571
      @davidhandyman7571 Рік тому

      I was thinking the same. I am thinking he might need a few more sheets of drywall.

  • @waynebowman2315
    @waynebowman2315 2 роки тому +4

    Love the big dog 44s , very surprised with both bullets performance though

  • @bobd1513
    @bobd1513 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for doing this!

    • @WHOTEEWHO
      @WHOTEEWHO  2 роки тому

      Thanks for watching Bob

  • @beryls5469
    @beryls5469 2 роки тому

    for a safe room -- Tear out the partition walls of your walk in closet (if you have one) and replace with solid 4 x 4's, then drywall each side as normal.

  • @honkie247
    @honkie247 2 роки тому +6

    The drywall, like clothing, plugged the hollow cavity in the bullets. A more fair test would have been pistols with equal barrel length. The 357 has a two inch longer barrel. Also, the 357 round was a light bullet (150 grains) and the 44 mag was a heavy bullet (240 grains). A more equal test would be to use a 185 grain bullet in the 44 and use equal length barrels. Too many variables to call a true winner.

    • @everettyost8639
      @everettyost8639 Рік тому

      Standard bullet weights are 158 and 240.

    • @timclaus8313
      @timclaus8313 Рік тому

      @@everettyost8639 Certainly drywall will clog the cavity if it doesn't start to expand immediately.

  • @s9plus20
    @s9plus20 2 роки тому +11

    Nice guns! Very interesting results, I didn't expect that outcome. I too expected around 7 or 8 deep. It would be really interesting to see the exact same test with a 9mm, 380 and 22 from pistols, perhaps 45 and 40 too. Lots of people carry 9mm and 380, I would especially like to see those results.

  • @larryeaton4263
    @larryeaton4263 2 роки тому +4

    I have 2 issues with this test. 1. Barrel length is important for a test like this, and was obviously different and was not mentioned. 2. I'm betting in the real world, where the drywall layers are separated by large gaps, results would be different.
    H
    In Georgia where I live, not sure it's still the law, but when handguns were first legalized for whitetail deer, there was a requirement of minimum 500 ft lbs muzzle energy. At the time, I read up on it since I had no experience with handguns. There were only 2 common loads that could achieve that, the 44mag and the 357mag. Barrel length was a factor. So legally you had to have something like 8 or 10 inch barrel with the 357 and I like the flexibility of being able to use it with 38 for home defense. So, I lost interest, since that is not much more convenient than a rifle, and for me, didn't make sense since I'm pretty good with a rifle and not so much with a handgun.

  • @diolagoudis9580
    @diolagoudis9580 11 місяців тому

    Very interesting!!!
    BTW Beautiful pistols both!

  • @6nosis
    @6nosis 2 роки тому +22

    If that 44 had a longer barrel it might’ve gone through another 5?

  • @shoppe99
    @shoppe99 2 роки тому +5

    I believe a better test would be to have allowed 2 inches between each sheet of wallboard, you might find out that the bullets would go through more sheets. With the sheets pressed up against each other think it would take more energy to push the backside paper into the next sheet of wallboard. Obviously walls are not built with the wallboard stacked one next to the orher. I'd like to see another test with two by four studs with wallboard on each side.

    • @yankeetraveler1118
      @yankeetraveler1118 11 місяців тому

      I concur. The space between would allow for greatly different energy trasfer as the drywall would be allowed to flex as well as not pushing the paper into the next sheet. Probably would not need a full two inches either. Just a 1x1 would do the trick.

  • @gma729
    @gma729 2 роки тому

    That was a Great Video !! 🙂👍

  • @johnpeddie7650
    @johnpeddie7650 Рік тому

    The bullets held together because of the tightness of the drywall packed together it was no room for expansion between drywalls so essentially you shot through a solid Mass and the bullet has no ability to expand sideways hope this one isn't too late

  • @davidd6854
    @davidd6854 2 роки тому +10

    Very impressed with the .357. I figured around 10 sheets for both

  • @regsparkes6507
    @regsparkes6507 2 роки тому +5

    I would have bet those bullets would stop at 9 or 10 sheets for 357 and maybe 12 to 14 for the .44!
    That's penetration for ya! I do enjoy these tests, when we can see exactly what happens.
    Maybe, if you can, the next time you do this test, you can have brand new bullets to put beside the fired one's so we can really see what happens to each.

  • @TZ250FANATIC
    @TZ250FANATIC Місяць тому

    The .357 Magnum and .44 Magnum are classics. They're both versatile and work in a wide range of situations.

  • @davidkeith1499
    @davidkeith1499 Рік тому +16

    Amazing that the 357 kept up with the 44 that well.

    • @jblack1326
      @jblack1326 Рік тому

      as Joe Sikora pointed out. If barrel length had been the same, the 44mag would have gone quite a bit further. I willing to bet that my BFR 45/90 with 500 grain solids would have made both of those little guns look quite inadeguate.

    • @LoreFoundry
      @LoreFoundry Рік тому

      357 the best caliber.

  • @smartass6071
    @smartass6071 2 роки тому +15

    The dry wall was back to back. It would have gone through many more if the dry wall was spaced out like a normal wall with 4'' studs. Provided you didn't hit a stud. At 17 layers it could potentially go through 8 or more rooms if it didn't hit a stud.

    • @chrischalkley8571
      @chrischalkley8571 2 роки тому

      Was going to post that if walls had spacing the bullet would have lost momentum between walls

  • @rascal0175
    @rascal0175 2 роки тому +8

    Consider comparisons with fire resistant and water resistant drywall. You may find considerable differences in penetration.

    • @jt76801
      @jt76801 2 роки тому +1

      I was thinking the same thing. That looks like half inch drywall which is pretty standard for interior walls. I wonder how 5/8 fire rock would handle some rounds.

    • @rascal0175
      @rascal0175 2 роки тому +1

      @@jt76801 Me too. I redid my interior walls on a log house. There’s a big difference in drywall types. Since I don’t know the right terms I’ll just say the formulas for the materials are a lot different. I don’t think any of it will stop magnum revolver rounds in any practical way, but reshooting this video would be a good start in getting a baseline.

  • @bobbynewton9247
    @bobbynewton9247 11 місяців тому

    Wow I didn't think it would be that many pieces! Good test

  • @garycuster5031
    @garycuster5031 Рік тому

    I agree with Joe...barrel length on the 44 kept velocity down and penetration.

  • @SupremeShuckle
    @SupremeShuckle 2 роки тому +5

    Space the sheetrocks an inch apart and see how many that .44 Red Wristbreaker can get through. Maybe try brass solid extreme penetrator .44 rounds just for funsies.

  • @kevincadden1814
    @kevincadden1814 2 роки тому +3

    Good test penetrated more than I thought it would. Like to see a test done with equal barrel lengths and hollow point vs solid point.

    • @georgekonyi2690
      @georgekonyi2690 2 роки тому

      What they should have done is testing 3 Revolvers. SW Model 27 .357 Magnum 4 in. 158 gr And SW Model 57 .41 Magnum 4 in. 210 gr And SW model 29 4 in 240 gr all with jacketed bullets.

  • @ytucharliesierra
    @ytucharliesierra Рік тому +5

    I'm wondering if brick walls could possibly be less expensive than special bullet proof drywall.

    • @cavedancesinc.6775
      @cavedancesinc.6775 7 місяців тому

      Now I want to see how many bricks can be penetrated hitting center of an 8-foot wall. It's been done before.

  • @tekannon7803
    @tekannon7803 2 роки тому

    Great vocast. What material could be a could material to accompany for example, one layer of drywall?