🤯 RIGHT OR WRONG?! The Last of Us 1x9 "Look for the Light" FIRST TIME WATCHING!

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[@eliem5913]

Hi ♡
What a great trip!
''It had its ups and downs but we can't deny the view.''
This phrase makes great sense after everything they
have been through. This story is so well written that
it has transcended from the game to a series, carrying
similar but unique sensations in each one.
All this makes us think that Joel is not a hero, but a
villain, but a very human villain, who does anything for love.
What would you do in Joel's place?
Would you play the game part 2 or you'll wait the second season?
P.S.
Perspective.

[@TomTomson81]

The episode began and ends with a lie and ends. Both were done out of love. One was selfless, the other selfish. One served to protect Ellie, the other to maintain a relationship whose trust was destroyed in order to be able to continue to be a father to his new Sarah.
Just my opinion and it's a long one. No one has to see it the same way. But I'm on Ellie's side even though I love Joel. However, many see and use Ellie's site only to the extent that it justifies Joel's actions.
Maria said to Ellie: "Be careful who you put your faith in. The only people who can betray us are the one we trust."
And that's exactly what Joel is doing here. Any parent would at least try the same and so would I (but I wouldn't have lied and I would bear the consequences). But Joel is not Ellie's father. He only considers himself to be so, but this is not based on reciprocity. For Ellie, Joel is her only friend and protector, but at eye level. And neither of them would change that. Ellie wouldn't limit her autonomy and independence and Joel wouldn't expect that from her. And then there would no longer be a relationship on the same level. In this respect, they have never called their relationship as father and daughter. Ellie also doesn't seem to like the fact that Joel constantly compares her to his daughter. This clearly comes through in addition to her depression. One really wait for the sentence from her "I'm not her, you know?". Ellie is like a replacement.
In this respect, he never has the right to do what he has done, NOR DOES MARLENE. But both know the answer Ellie would give. Why did Joel lie to Ellie in the end? Because he actually knew better and still acted out of selfishness. Marlene, on the other hand, did not tell Ellie what they would do with her so as not to scare her unnecessarily. Marlene doesn't need Ellie's consent either, she would do it against Ellie's will for the world. Therefore, the argument that many bring that Marlene would be afraid Ellie would say "no" is nonsens. This is not decisive for her. Marlene is simply doing the same thing as the Fedra officer in episode 1 did with the infected boy. She also says this in this sense. We didn't tell her anything, she won't be feel fear.
Marlene has another thing in common with Ellie. Ellie had to kill her girlfriend and for her it must all have some value. The same goes for Marlene. She had to kill her best friend and for both applies it must not have been in vain. Both lost their friends to the fungus, both had to end their lives. In addition, Marlene had conversations with Ellie in episode 1 and here before the operation again.
So yes, Marlene is properly the only one who understands Ellie very well and she knows what Ellie would have wanted. Joel knows that too.
An important difference to the game is the feeling you had when you freed Ellie. In the game, on the way to Ellie, you felt like a hero saving your daughter. Here in the series it becomes clear that Joel is not a hero. Supported by the score. Joel is the one who wipes everyone out and extinguishes the hope of saving humanity. People who all just defended themselves here. Joel has not been attacked. He is the aggressor.
I think it's good how this is presented here. How Joel is shown as he was for 20 years. Ruthless, unscrupulous, cold-blooded. And if for 20 years he had the reason to be like this so that his brother and Tess could survive, this is now replaced by selfishness. He has rolled through the hospital like a bulldozer. And that Ellie would have wanted this operation is not a question, after what she experienced and had to do. This was her chosen destiny after losing so many people to the fungus. She made a decision on the day Marlene told her about her imunity. Reinforced by the deaths of Riley and all after her. With the giraffes, she reaffirmed that she wants to bring this to an end. The first and only decision Ellie could ever make about her life. So far, others have always been determined over her live. Joel took that away from her. And not only that, he took away everything she fought for and what she went through. 3 weeks after Riley's death, which she had to cause, Marlene has given her a meaning that could have saved all humanity. Joel gave her a life with survivor guilt multiplied by all humanity. She has to live with the fact that all the people who died for her and will die in the future, died for nothing. Her mother, Riley, Sam and Henry, and if she finds out the truth one day, she will blame herself for the hospital carnage and Marlene's death. All died for her or because of her and all in vain.
The argument (and justification for Joel's actions) over and over again that Ellie was given no choice is not one either. Since this was never motivation for Joel or Marlene. Joel didn't free her because she had no choice. He did it because he didn't want to lose her.
The argument Ellie is still a child and cannot make this decision is nonsense. Ellie hasn't been a child in her head for a long time. She lives in a world where you grow up quickly. She killed, saved lives, injured people, was almost r*p*d and chopped up. She has made mature decisions several times. The last of these was to stand against Joel and go on with a very grown-up reason. She is the only one who can and should make this decision about her life.
Nobody needs to come with the reason that it was not certain that the operation would succeed and that a cure could be produced. Everyone involved believed in it, including Joel. The motives of the characters counts. People like to invent ways that the show or game didn't bring in to justify Joel's actions. In fact, the only thing Joel said was "find someone else". So if it were up to him, another child could die instead of Ellie. Joel has accepted that Ellie brings the cure to the world as a fact. And even if there were other immunes out there, Joel also killed probably the only brain surgeon with that kind of knowledge who could have done such an operation. That was a decision he was not allowed to make for Ellie. No matter if he feels that way, he is not her father. And because Joel knows all this, he ends up lying to Ellie.
And Ellie already knows at the moment that he is lying, when she asks if Marlene is ok and he says nothing. She got the same answer when she asked if Joel had killed innocent people. He lies so that he can continue to be her Daddy without consequences for himself. So he takes another decision away from Ellie. Namely, whether she still wants to continue to be connected to him amicably, trustingly.
How the conversation between Joel and Ellie would have gone if one had taken place before the operation can be seen very clearly at the end of the episode.
When Ellie wants to say him for the first time how she feels, why she wanted to do this and for whom, he interrupted her, bombards her with platitudes. He wouldn't listen, but would free her anyway and then make up lies and gives her advices that he himself has not followed.
He interrupts her so that he does not have to listen any further, so that he can continue to justify his act for himself. She, on the other hand, can't have all his bullshit since the car anymore and finally interrupts him and makes him swear.
Ellie's bullshit detector is unbearable. Nevertheless, she chooses him over his lies. He means the world to her and all she has is him. Her greatest fear of ending up alone certainly plays a role. They love each other and would do anything for each other. Or it is rather dependency. In any case, the long-built trust is now gone.
I would like to point out a very interesting conversation that took place in the pilot episode between Tommy, Joel and Sarah. This was about love and dependence.
Tommy comes into the kitchen and greets Joel and Sarah with a not so nice word.
Sarah to Joel: "Oooh, he loves you"
Joel: "He is dependent on me. It's not the same."
Sarah: "I think it's the same"
I think this conversation is very interesting in connection with the dynamic between Joel and Ellie.
To what extent is this love.
To what extent is it dependence.
To what extent do the two things go together?
And are Joel and Ellie even on the same page when it comes to that? Or confuse both love with dependence.
I also find the conversation between Joel and Ellie questionable in which he tells her that he wanted to kill himself. The conversation itself was okay, but I don't think it's okay to tell her that she's the reason he sees life positively again. He puts even more pressure on Ellie. He made himself dependent on her existence and let her know that.
That's not right. She now constantly has in her head how he will feel when she is away.
Well, the authors of the game had not thought of a continuation of the game at that time. That's the advantage of the series. They can prepare much better for the upcoming season and thus make everything that comes in part 2 more comprehensible for everyone.
This was an excellent but unfortunately much too short episode. The whole series was just great. I'm looking forward to the second season.
Ellie not only has the knife from her mother, but also the jacket she lay in as a baby.
The giraffe was real. Her name is Nabo or Nobu. Something like that.
Ashley Johnson was Ellie's mother here. Quite poetic when Ellie gives birth to Ellie and both look similar.
Laura Bailey the voice actor of Abby from TLOU2 was one of the assistant doctors.
I've played both games together 20 times and I love them. I love this series. The best I've seen in a long time. I love Joel and Ellie. I feel the need to play again now with the knowledge of what is now added by the series.

[@jamezguard]

Season 2 2025. Boo.

[@ClioCat]

Great! 🤩🤩