WHY YOU SHOULD USE A SLEEPING BAG.. NOT A QUILT
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What’s your jam.. quilt or sleeping bag?
Used an EE quilt (before they started overfilling) and froze my butt off every time. Switched to a Sierra Designs Cloud 800 and haven't had a cold night since. I like the Cloud 800 because it combines features from quilts and bags and is still light weight and compressible. Would definitely recommend anyone wanting to try a quilt (or switching back from quilts) to give it a look.
I use a sleeping bag. Never used a quilt.
Still bag but unzipping it and using it quilt style till I can afford one
Large sleeping bag to keep my 75 pound puppy and myself warm while backpacking up north Wisconsin.
Hey Dan, Great channel and content! For me depends on season. We seem to have the same medical problem “Multi-Sleep-systemism” for winter always bag typically my Zpacs 10’ Full Zip, spring and summer my Zpacs 20’ Quilt.
Sleeping bag is a quilt when I activate it's unzip power converter, and it's a sleeping bag when I reverse the converter.
lol! to strue
I'm going back to bags for sub 40 temps. But an unzipped bag is no quilt. The strapping systems on quilts are surprisingly effective but fiddly.
But you’re carrying the extra weight, which is the entire reason for carrying a quilt.
@@lt6077its wider than a quilt unzipped. No need for straps. I've never had a draft issue using my sleeping bag as a quilt. Plus having a hood is great. An extra pound in weight oh well
Am I the only person who uses a sleeping bag as a quilt? Unzip it. Tuck your feet in. It's a quilt. Zip it up if it gets super cold / deaughty.
That's how I use a sleeping bag
Exactly, you have it if you need it
ditto
Exactly 🤣
Correct but too heavy so I changed to a quilt.
I appreciate that you have a different approach and different ideas from everyone else. You aren’t advising based off being a gear junkie but off of what will and won’t work. So thank you for that!
I just use my mummy bag as a quilt. I'm a side & stomach sleeper so I have tons of room to move.
What kind do you have?
I have been doing this for 20 years I had to zip my sleeping bag very few times mostly night in icy cold deserts
I hate the construction of my mummy bag, so I never zip it. I just tuck it under and it rarely gets drafty (the fact I rarely sleep in sub-freezing temps helps here). The hood is great right when I go to bed...heats me up much quicker and good to have in general.
Yeah that’s what I did the other day, I went for an overnight w my 20 degree mummy bag but it was only supposed to drop to 50 so def way too hot . Won’t be making that mistake again
Quilts were a comfort game changer for me. I can actually move around and be comfortable along with temp regulation. Weight had nothing to do with the choice for me. I have an EE revelation wide long 10 degree. I’ve used it comfortably from 5F to 75F. When it’s cold I don’t have any draft problems, or if I do I bring the sides of the quilt closer with the pad straps and done. Also following their instructions for closing the bottom I never have drafts there either (another often heard complaint). I think it’s hard to go wrong with a quilt... if you can follow directions. I also love that I can get one with such a low temp rating and still use it in all but the hottest weather, try sleeping in 75 degree weather with a 10F sleeping bag, you’ll unzip it and use it like an uncomfortable misshapen quilt!
When I was in the market to upgrade from my 4-pound sleeping bag to something lighter, I really did consider a quilt. But by the time you upgrade to a wider quilt to hopefully avoid drafts, you end up with a quilt that weighs only a couple of ounces less than the Feathered Friends Egret that I considered as competition. I tent camp and even in my 4-pound bag I loved to "mummy up" with the hood tightly around my face to keep warm. So I bucked the trend and bought the Feathered Friends bag!
I did the first 136 miles of the AT this summer with a nylon sleeping bag liner and (wait for it) a Costco quilt. It worked great.
Also, just watched a You Tube video with a guy (Kyle Hates Hiking) pontificating on the reason's for this channel's success. That's when you know you are arriving. Nice job Dan!!
Great points Dan. I sure do love my quilts, I need to pick up one more now. Still have 2 bags, but they haven't seen use in almost 2 years now.
I have a ugq quilt, but I bought it before they had the fancy new side tension system. That being said, I love the thing with my whole heart. It's my favorite piece of gear and your videos have reminded me that I need to do a review on the thing now that I've had it for a couple seasons. Thank you.
Weight wasn’t a deciding factor for me. The clear advantage of a quilt is that it’s less restrictive. The clear downside is that the ordering process requires more research because many quilts are highly customizable. Another downside is you can’t jam your pillow in the top of the quilt like you can a sleeping bag, so the pillow moves around, but there are workarounds for that.
As someone who just got into backpacking (thank you for indirectly helping my decide and plan my hike btw) this is really insightful. So thanks
I use a quilt just so I can avoid the awkward sleeping bag shuffle while in a hammock. Also, pack volume is important to me.
thank you Dan, all good points, just like you have said: different strokes for different folks, I own both quilts and sleeping bags but would use quilts only in the summer, once temperature falls below 40F I feel much more cozy and comfortable in a close up sleeping bag with the hood on my bald head and no drafts. It's much more comfortable for me to sleep just in the thermal base layer in the cocoon sleeping bag then to have a fleece, or puffy on me with the hood or hat, so for me quilt wins in the summer, other three seasons sleeping bags
Very interesting comparisons. Thanks.
I've used sleeping bags all the time - tent camping, generally. Never any problem regulating the temperature - can always unzip the side if I'm getting too hot. When I tried out my hammock, I used my sleeping bag unzipped most of the way to form a "quilt with a foot box" and that seemed to work fine - but definitely need an underquilt for the hammock. For me, the sleeping bag gives versatility - use it as a bag (with insulated inflatable pad) if I'm in a tent or using my hammock on the ground in "bivvy" mode, use it as a quilt in the hammock.
Dan, this is PERFECT timing. I am 'sleeping bag shopping' right now. I have a great underquilt and need to replace my old sleeping bag. I've been hammocking with my bag for many years (partly unzipped). But I am totally leaning toward a new down sleeping bag. Since thats what I've been using for years. But my old poly bag is just too bulky! I need a down bag. I'm a big guy and the mummy bags are just too constrictive! Thanks
Hi Dan I enjoyed your video. My first sleeping bag was a 20* Teton Sports which I enjoyed but as a big guy it was too constricting. Second bag was an REI Regular Wide 20 * Lumen, 5 oz heavier than Teton. I now have a 20 * EE Revelation wide and I like it very much even though I am still in the process of dialing it in. I have had it down to 25* sleeping in a shelter and was very comfortable. Have a great weekend.
I recently switched to a Kelty Galactic 30. It's a retangle down sleeping bag that has a drawstring top. I can use it like a traditional sleeping bag, cinch the top if I want a mummy bag, or partially zip up the foot box if I want to use it like a quilt. It's super versatile and weighs about 2 1/2lbs.
I’m team sleeping bag (for now!) because a) I love the cocooning feeling! b) it’s just what I have c) I’m a super cold sleeper so drafts scare me! But I REALLY want to test the quilts!
Ps. Love this backdrop bro!
I just got my first quilt. Went with a budget model just because I wasn’t sure I’d like it. Budget at $190. Hahah
It’s a Featherstone 25 degree. I haven’t had it out on a hike yet, but I think I’ll like it. Weighting in at 23 oz it’s a lot lighter than my military sleeping bags, so that’s a huge plus. Thanks for all your videos.
Sleeping bag, lightweight 35°, open in summer, sealed and add a jacket in winter. Switch to heavier bag when it drops below 15.
Sleeping bag. I have a Cats Meow from the 90s. Didn’t get used much as life happened and I didn’t do my big hike, Olympus and fly fish floating the Columbia. I have a Wilderness Permit for Yosemite with Half Dome cables in June and will apply for GNP Backcountry on the fifteenth. I have St. Mary campground reserved and I’ll do a walk in if needed. Grand Canyon and Olympic Range next year! Dan, I owe some of this to you. Your videos are great and I’ve used your advice to get back to where I belong. Anyway, it’s 2 lbs., Cats Meow, I can now get a 30° bag that 1lb 6oz. I have always been more comfortable in a sleeping bag. Ya, I could save 10oz but I’d rather lose some fat. I don’t need a quilt to go lighter. The olden days, 😂, are gone so the thoughts should be.
I have used a 20° down mummy from Campmor for about 25 years now (there was a brief affair with wool blankets) and just tried out a Hammock Gear 20° Burrow quilt this winter (temps in the twenties, shelter by tent). I have now filed for separation from the bag and have forgotten my transgressions with wool. As a guy that sleeps really hot, I truly enjoyed my time with the quilt and will probably switch exclusively to a quilt from here on out. That said, the cold spots that provide me some relief at night would probably keep others awake so take what I say with a grain of salt. Dig your channel, Dan. Keep up the good work!
Great topic, great information to consider. I don't own a quilt yet, but will be trying out hammock camping this year and I will be thinking about what you've said, thanks!
I always tell people to get a quilt for warmer weather but anything below 40 degrees Fahrenheit, get a sleeping bag. Great video keep up the good work.
Bought few products last fall and cant wait to test them out. Picked up Outdoor vitals arie and winterial hammock kit underquilt/blanket down some of this will be used in wildland fire season
“My quilt wasn’t wide enough for what I was doing in a tent” ummmmm ok then 👌
I laughed at that too.
He be fuckin dem squirrels.
😜
I've become a quilt guy over the years mainly for reasons of weight and space (bike packing) but you're dead right, getting a good night's sleep is fundamental to having a good time in the backcountry and you do make some good points in favour of sleeping bags. I've never actually bothered with the quilt straps but just wrap myself up in the quilt or use the loops to tie the sides together to make it effectively into a sleeping bag.
I’m a recent quilt convert and I love my UGQ quilt. I’m 6’ tall, weigh 188, and I’m a side sleeper. Here’s my sleep system:
UGQ Bandit XL 20Degree Sleeping Quilt - 60” wide by 78” long, 850 down, boxed flat sewn foot box, draft collar, no taper, dynamic tension, 1oz added down in foot box, deluxe pad attachments - 1lb 11oz
Thermarest NeoAir Xlite Reg/Wide Sleep Pad (4.2 R-value) - 15oz
Outdoor Vitals Pillow - 2.8oz
Pillowcase - 2.4oz (luxury item)
Cocoon Silk Liner - 4oz
I’ve used this system in warm temps down in the Grand Canyon and frankly the silk liner was good for most of the night. When I got chilly a draped the quilt over my torso. Also have used this system in temps down in the teens. Had to take off my thermals. Only needed shorts, tee shirt, and no socks. I use a headband to keep my ears warm. The draft collar pulls up over my head if I really get cold. I’ve found the key to staying warm is using a wide air pad with decent R rating and sliding the attachment clips about 2 inches in from the pad edge on top. I’ve heard some people wrap their quilt around the pad and attach on the bottom of pad. That’s wrong! The silk liner is a bit pricey but so worth it. It keeps your bag free from body oils and stink. After a trip just wash the liner. Plus the silk is comfy on the naked skin. I’ll never go back to a mummy sleeping bag! The UGQ quilt ROCKS!
Thinking you might be my spirit guide or something, because I got the alert for this video moments before forcing myself to make a decision on a new quilt.
Just switched to a smaller pack and decided, and decided it was time to also replace my old 3lb 700 fill sleeping bag for better compression. Literally just spent the last four days going between brands to determine what to get. Absolutely perfect timing to answer so many questions.
Great advice and brave too. The Ultralight backpackers may come for you. Jen Yates, you’re not the only one using a sleeping bag as a quilt on warm nights and as a bag when it gets colder unexpectedly (e.g. UK). I too love the flexibility. Each to his/her own.
Dan I use a 30 deg quilt, UGQ and when it gets real cold I add a 50 deg sleeping bag. The together has kept me warm in the low teens. The best of both worlds.
Layering is awesome! I do that too.
I just did 15 in my 30 UGQ with clothes on, while I was chilly it wasn't horrible.
I’m taking my Katabatic Gear Flex 15 on the PCT with me this year. Their pad attachment system (which I don’t generally need/use) is pretty slick because it uses a cord lock type of thing to keep the clips underneath you from sliding, or there are loops on the sides of the quilt so you can just slip a piece of webbing through there and clip it behind you to hold the back closed (of course, there’s a video you can watch about that). Actual 15° performance for about 2 lbs, can’t beat it. It is literally my favorite piece of gear.
Thank you fir talking me out of a quilt!😄 I was really torn and all the hype around quilts was making me feel even more torn between the two.
Thank you for the video. Always great content and information. Had my first backpacking trip this past weekend. I used the Mountain Hardwear Bishop Pass 15 degree sleep bag with the Thermarest XTherm. (I have Raynauds) Temps dropped to lower 40’s and did not feel chilled.
I cannot afford a quilt at the moment and since I am a newbie, wouldn’t want to drop that much coin yet anyway, but I am intrigued.
I JUST tried a quilt for the first time. For a couple things. Still need more testing, but so far impressed. I had some concerns, but It's been working out well for me so far! I wasn't going to buy one because I didn't think the price was worth it for the weight savings (I have a Western Mountaineering bag). But my bf needed a new sleeping bag....so he decided since a double quilt was lighter than his sleeping bag, he would just do that! haha
Amy Routt , good luck on your up coming hike! Love your vlogs.
@@Wondering_Fireball Thank you! :)
You can use...a sleeping bag like a Quilt, but on the cold night you will have the benefits full blown sleeping bag . . .
The Main thing would be weight. The quilt Will always be lighter
@@alexanderfriis1 how much weight are we talking?
@@dingodoggy66 I'm not who you asked this of, but from what I've seen, 30-50%
@@defeqel6537 in a sampling of exactly 1, the REI Magma 30 sleeping bag weighs .8 oz more than the REI Magma 30 quilt. That’s a whopping 4% savings! The quilt is $40 cheaper though.
I never heard anyone talk about regulating temperature. That’s a great point because I’m always hot in the morning because we usually camp in the spring or late summer
I often have problems sleeping, so I wanted to most comfortable bag, at a reasonable weight. I went for a Nunatak quilt. They also have a system with shock cord on both sides. Size and cut can be customised to all needs / preferences.
Might just be stubborn and set in my ways, but a life time of sleeping bag sleeping has left me with no desire to change. lol
Good stuff!!! I'm a ground dweller use an aegismax 35° no hood sleeping bag like a quilt sometimes, it holds my sleeping pad in place and since it's not attached to the pad I can roll around and have complete coverage if needed or allow ventilation by flipping up a side...no need for a quilt. I understand ULrs and hammockers a quilt is probably best
I kick around a lot in my sleep, I went with a Sierra Designs cloud 800 35° which is very light weight. It has a sleeve to keep it on your pad, and has no insulation on the back, while having a ventable foot box. Highly recommend it!
Perfect advice! I'm new to backpacking and have SO much else to think about and learn... so this not being one of them is great. I'll stick with the sleeping bag I already have.
a non-hooded sleeping bag like my zpacks classic is pretty much a quilt + a zipper. It's pretty much boils down to which closure systems fit your needs more.
Can two Zpacks classic zip together, for two people, in a tent?
Sleeping Bag. I have a Freedom Trail Sleeping Pod - it’s extra wide so I don’t feel restricted. I always have my camp blanket with me if it gets too cold for just the Pod, and thermals + layers help in cold weather.
Warm weather - quilts are fine. Approaching freezing, most people find a quilt too draughty. Between 30f and 10f, many people these days go for a hybrid like the Feathered Friends Flicker, which you can use as a quilt or a mummy as temperature fluctuates.
I was a ground dweller and recently started hammock camping . Took some time to get used to . As for sleeping bag versus quilt in a hammock I'm still working on figuring out what I like best . I do appreciate your thoughts and suggestions for such a matter. Love the videos. If possible can you do low cost products that work and are reliable.
Larry Terry unzipped sleeping bag is what i use. Basically a quilt but if it gets cold you can zip it up
@@2caiden4u I use the same thing a sleeping bag . why buy something else when you already have a sleeping bad just the same in my opinion
I do this too but it’s a pain when having to get out & back in for pee breaks. However, I already have a great bag & pad. The extra $$$$ just because 2 maybe 3 times a night it’s inconvenient isn’t worth it to me.
I read a viewers comment on another video that said he’s decided to mortgage his home & but all the products talked about so he could go camping. 😂
Great post , I luckily borrowed a quilt before buying one and frankly don’t get all the hype , I’m perfectly happy with my snugpak special forces system
Yes the mystical magical sleeping bag, horse poo saying it weighs more. It does cost less in general even though it offers more. Can be used as a quilt if u wish. Bag eliminates cold spots and drafts and fancy strapping systems. On a sticky warm night when I get down to just a pr of undies I'm not sticking to a clammy mattress. I could go on but I guess u see my preference ✌️
As I'm watching this I'm actually writing an e-mail to UGQ to get some help customizing a quilt just right for me. Somehow the concept haven't really made it's way to Denmark just yet, so it's a little tricky when you cant see, feel and try it before you buy it. Hopefully it all works out!
Ty for your vid btw Dan!
Sounds like we need an International Dan Becker expedition video series.... taking products across the globe.
By far, the best and most extravagant gift I've ever received is a WM hooded Aspen, 25° bag when I was around 15. It wasn't a birthday present, it was just my Grandparents visiting and wanting to get me a special gift. That was approximately 18 years ago and I slept comfortably at 17° 2 years ago in that same bag. It's 2 lbs 2 oz and whenever I look at a replacement, nothing is light and warm enough to warrant a replacement. I try to go out about 6 times a year so I haven't beat it up, I've stored it well, and done my best to protect it but I can't endorse any piece of equipment I've ever had as much as a high quality sleeping system.
I'm handicapped, and went camping for the first time from the wheelchair this month. I used 2 sleeping bags. I was inside one, and had another on top unzipped. The lows got down to 30 where I was at. The first night, I also put a tarp wrapped around me as well.
That said, I'm a sleeping bag type of person. I can't have those icy drafts hit me, because I can't move then. Thank You for all you do. I follow your channel because you are down to earth and give good outdoors advice and suggestions. Take care. This video showed up in my feed tonight.
Awesome! Thank you! By the way check out my most recent video 👉 ua-cam.com/video/loztZc6BNcE/v-deo.html because I just backpacked with someone who is also in a wheelchair :-) you are a total inspiration for doing that!
@@DanBecker Just finished watching, and I'm leaving my comment here to continue the conversation. her freedom chair is awesome, and I hope someday to own one. I'm working towards camping equipment now, and have been planning my next trip in May of 22. I am currently using established campgrounds that are reasonably H/A.
This last trip was to celebrate a milestone for me, and I look forward to the next one. I'm taking baby steps towards longer journeys out and about. The ultimate goal, suggested by another online friend is the deep woods upstate in Minnesota where I am from.
The lady you went hiking with is an inspiration. She is truly a hero in my book.
I'm thinking I can do it in 6 years, depending on the wheelchair I have at the time. Most wheelchairs aren't sold that can offroad like I will need to do that are within my price range. I am saving what I can to upgrade. It's a goal!
Thank You again for everything. Will be scrounging through your older videos as well. You and other youtubers have been encouraging me to challenge the unknown, and I am grateful. -L
Having not made this decision/purchase yet, I'm very intrigued by the Zenbivy bed system. Not really liking to wear hoods or beanies, but realizing I should need cover on my head, their sheet with hood, used with a quilt, is a concept I had already been designing in my head when they came out (great minds think alike? 🤔😉).
Sierra Designs Backcountry Bed. Best bag ever. It's like a bag/quilt hybrid - no zippers. Has vent for feet and sleeve for your pad so you don't roll off.
Feathered friends Flicker UL is both a full zip bag and a quilt.. fully functional as both and the temperature rating is very accurate. I have the 20 degree and it's amazing. Favorite piece of gear
Love my Nemo synthetic 30 degree with pad sleeve. A little heavy however super comfortable and no pad straps!
I have an extra wide sleeping quilt and I love it, sleeping bags are definitely a thing of the past for me.
I purchased my first quilt in 2015. Unless I starting doing winter camping, I don't see myself going back to a restrictive bag. I don't use straps. I do, however, have a wide quilt and pad. It's easy enough to tuck the quilt in when I roll over. Also, snapping the top of the quilt together helps create a cocoon-like shape of the quilt.
Stay away from "narrow" quilts unless you are a one position back sleeper.
I still like my Sea To Summit Traverse Synthetic Sleeping Bag, for BOTH hammock AND tent use!
I love, love, love my quilt. I always hated sleeping in a sleeping bag, I even got panic attacks in them due to claustrophobia and had to sleep in an open sleeping bag anyways. But my quilt is just awesome. I never got any drafts in because mine has side baffles. I can move in it like crazy and I always have the feeling of freedom.
Quilt = love
What quilt do you use?
Good advice all around. Thanks for not just promoting your preference!
I use a Rab neutrino 600. It has the foot box, it's easy to leave the zip open under your back and wear as a quilt. If it's a bit chilly to wrap the hood under your shoulder then wear the hood. If it is really cold the option is available to use as intended as a sleeping bag. Best of both worlds.
Sleeping bag all the way. Covers any and all potential environments/situations. I use the Western Mountaineering ExtremeLite series for 3 season (45, 32, 20 deg bags; yes, that's like $1.5k in bags, but so be it. They're the best IMHO), and layer on clothing for cooler, or simply open up the zipper for warmer (also, you can simply drape it over oneself like a quilt and leave the feet free if in a tent...I always use a tent of some sort). I understand the UL peeps desire for saving few grams, but totally not my jam. To each their own. Happy camping!
i don't sleep on the ground anymore, so quilts.
indoors and out, every night. i've never slept outside at a temperature colder than -15F, but i do ok with the gear i have.
You need to check out the Zenbivy Bed. Its a quilt and an EN-rated sleeping bag. It solves the quilt problems you describe without straps. It uses a fitted sheet that does not restrict you, and does seal out drafts. It has head insulation/pillow management. If you don’t need a full sleeping bag; its a quilt too.
Even with the straps drafts still will come in and I’m a cold sleeper so sleeping bag all the way I’ll take the extra weight plus o found my north face 600 fill someone was throwing away just washed it and dried it twice in the dryer like knew :)
I have one sleeping bag that I have used for around 5 years now the Ledge Sports Scorpion +45. I got it off amazon for 40 dollars! I pack it without the stuff sack at the bottom of my bag, and it weighs around 8 oz. Its a great summer bag, and I have used it in 23 degree snow camping weather with a liner, and layers. lol I will probably snag a 20 degree bag/quilt for next winter.
Dan the man Becker. A man of mystery and intrigue.
A DRUMMER ;). Nice!
Great video as usual. Thanks for all the 411.
I appreciated this video. I’m an extremely cold sleeper and can’t seem to get rid of that draft at night with my Enlightened Equipment Revelation. Been thinking about swapping to a zpacks for the reasons you mentioned.
I have the same problem, I move a lot in my sleep, and the draught just wakes me up all night.
I went with a REI 10 degree 900 fill. Pretty light but bulker and heavier than my buddies Enlightened Revelation. On bike theres not much room and thought about going to a quilt, but I get drafts in a sleeping bag. lol
I would say get one quilt that works as under-quilt if you're a hammock camper and get sleeping bag as more versatile version of top-quilt, especially if you sometimes go out with a tent. And yes, quilts are for hammocks, fun to see whole movie about that fact :)
UGQ quilts for the win. Hate the claustrophobic feeling of a mummy bag with a hood unless it is -20f. This quilt does it all in all seasons.
I've always slept in a sleeping bag. Always used it as a blanket and cursed that hood.
This year I learned that there is one like this. Quilt!
Now I just have to find the right one.
WOW!!.. I think this might be the most informative vid you’ve done.. as you said .. in other vids there are omissions of info..straps.. draft etc..
Nice job brother!!!
Mss for cold tent camping below -20f, but just ordered an Exped downmat. Might just use my hammock gear quilt. My quilts work great for my hammock!
As I’m starting hammock camping count me in for a quilt. Note to just save money for one 😂 it’s an unzipped sleeping bag until then
I remember going backpacking with both....and old Coleman flannel square bag...an actual quilt...all on an old American Camper external frame backpack..... 10 yrs old - ish....carrying 30-40 lbs of gear.....sucking it up....and still having a good time. Lol.
I looked into it but I also enjoy the ability to cocoon on a cold rainy night
Thanks mate this is great! Very non biased and mind opening. I have three sleeping bags, been thinking about a quilt. Thing is I use a sleeping mat instead of a bottom quilt because I use a tarp and bivvy always as backup, not only they merge as both ground and hammock sleeping but minimal for the choice of ground sleeping, as opposed to a tent which id use for more than a few nights. Anyway I'm rambling, what do you think of a quilt for use in a bivvy? If you're wondering it's the alpkit hunks so not a sort of enclosed tent like bivvy. It'll be for hammock too
After a life time using sleeping bags Ive been trying the sea to summit quilt system. I find that I need to use a warmer pad with it so the weight saving doesn't work out.
It is a lot more comfortable tho with the legs less restrictive. I will still use a sleeping bag in cold conditions.
When it's really cold, I want my over-rated (temperaure wise) sleeping bag. When I am in the tropics or the south-west in summertime. I take my lightest weight quilt. I have gambled on a quilt having the weather abruptly change and been burned (well actually the opposite). If in doubt I typically err on the side of warmth.
As a bicycle camper in Texas, I'm able to get away with a quilt and 3/4 sleeping pad in my hammock. My winter quilt is a Thermarest Technical Blanket. I don't think they make them anymore, but it is completely adequate for all but the harshest of weather, (did I mention that I'm in Texas?). I have a home-brew summer quilt that I use, also. I bought at cheap squared sleeping bag, discarded the synthetic insulation and replaced it with 1/4-inch quilting foam. Then I cut down the width, sewed it up and added a drawstring at the bottom to cynch it around my feet.
Never tried the quilts. I've always used a pad and sleeping bag in the tent or hammock and so far they've worked great for me but I'm open to trying a set of quilts.
You can pry my Katabatic gear flex quilt from my cold dead fingers... except it would take a lot in that thing to make me cold and dead. They also have a differential cut with elastic and it is amazing for draft protection. I totally get the debate about sleeping bags, but I absolutely love how versatile my quilt is and how I don’t feel suffocated when I side sleep.
At the end of the day it is a decision backpackers will need to make and there’s no wrong sleep solution, just find what you prefer. Borrow a friend’s to try out for a weekend getaway before you commit.
Quilt for sure. I only have 1 quilt, a 30 degree from Hammock Gear. I have a trip coming up to Red River Gorge and am a little worried about the over night temps and my quilt not being warm enough. I have a sleeping bag liner that I am going to take with me. Curious to see if it adds the warmth I need and help keep the cold from getting to be through the gaps.
Thank you Dan, a great & honest video as always! Has anybody tested the Exped Hyperquilt with hood? Any thoughts?
I always hated sleeping bags (Even when I was a kid). I move around all night and would always get tanged up. The first time I used a quilt I loved it. Much more freedom of movement. I agree if it's very cold there is a technique to using it however that was a minor price to pay considering I could sleep without having to fight the sleeping bag all night.
EE 20 degree quilt is my jam. had it down to 17 degrees with no problems. unable to go back to a traditional bag now lol
Warbonnet diamondback quilts have the same type of shock cord setup as the UGQ quilts. The warbonnet quilts are top notch.
Thanks Dan,
I truly appreciate your realistic comments.
There are a lot of people who do minimal hiking and backpacking, and just want something that will do the best "average" performance. We do not need the trendy, good for one type of use equipment. I also appreciate the comments that allow me to consider that while the quilt format might work well for hammock camping, perhaps I might only do the hammock thing a dozen times, ever, and tent with the kids most of the time, from the back of the car. I just cannot afford multiple versions of "Sleeping Insulation" systems. Thanks again.
Most of my backpacking is over 10k and the extra 8oz of a sleeping bag over a quilt is necessary. If it’s hot well that’s what the zipper is for. Ain’t no zipper on a quilt so if it’s cold I have no choice and no sleep but hey I saved 8oz!
Take a shot every time Dan says "Quilt".
HughRamsey I would but I don’t want to die.
HughRamsey , you’d be drunk in the first 5 minutes.
I'm getting my stomach pumped right now 🤣
THANK YOU!! I don't want to waste any more money on gear lol appreciate the honesty Dan stay strong&healthy safe&happy!!(=✌💚
always an honest take - well done dan
Dan, thanks -- good advice for the target audience. Keep up the good work!
"it's kinda like a big blanket" - No, a quilt is exactly a big blanket.
I thought you said "Pig Blanket".
Hell yeah! Bag all the way. Simple and versatile.
I've never used my pad straps, not once. I just went with a wide quilt and find clipping the lower section together and cinching the drawstring around my neck is all that is needed.
Forgot to clip the lower section together this weekend and I noticed for sure once the temps dipped into the teens.
What quilt you use?
@@adaumus I use an Enlightened Equipment Enigma, cold feet suck.
I have an EE Revelation 20 for tent camping and I love it. I have camped in 25°F weather and it has done it's job well. I have slept in mummy sleeping bags before, but I prefer the quilt.
In colder weather, I use the usmc sleep system bags, but I am a side/stomach sleeper so I want to try a nemo riff15 (which will cut the weight by half!!!) and in spring, I take my dd hammock quilt.
Cheers from France m. Becker