Used an EE quilt (before they started overfilling) and froze my butt off every time. Switched to a Sierra Designs Cloud 800 and haven't had a cold night since. I like the Cloud 800 because it combines features from quilts and bags and is still light weight and compressible. Would definitely recommend anyone wanting to try a quilt (or switching back from quilts) to give it a look.
Hey Dan, Great channel and content! For me depends on season. We seem to have the same medical problem “Multi-Sleep-systemism” for winter always bag typically my Zpacs 10’ Full Zip, spring and summer my Zpacs 20’ Quilt.
@@lt6077its wider than a quilt unzipped. No need for straps. I've never had a draft issue using my sleeping bag as a quilt. Plus having a hood is great. An extra pound in weight oh well
I appreciate that you have a different approach and different ideas from everyone else. You aren’t advising based off being a gear junkie but off of what will and won’t work. So thank you for that!
Quilts were a comfort game changer for me. I can actually move around and be comfortable along with temp regulation. Weight had nothing to do with the choice for me. I have an EE revelation wide long 10 degree. I’ve used it comfortably from 5F to 75F. When it’s cold I don’t have any draft problems, or if I do I bring the sides of the quilt closer with the pad straps and done. Also following their instructions for closing the bottom I never have drafts there either (another often heard complaint). I think it’s hard to go wrong with a quilt... if you can follow directions. I also love that I can get one with such a low temp rating and still use it in all but the hottest weather, try sleeping in 75 degree weather with a 10F sleeping bag, you’ll unzip it and use it like an uncomfortable misshapen quilt!
Dan I use a 30 deg quilt, UGQ and when it gets real cold I add a 50 deg sleeping bag. The together has kept me warm in the low teens. The best of both worlds.
I’m a recent quilt convert and I love my UGQ quilt. I’m 6’ tall, weigh 188, and I’m a side sleeper. Here’s my sleep system: UGQ Bandit XL 20Degree Sleeping Quilt - 60” wide by 78” long, 850 down, boxed flat sewn foot box, draft collar, no taper, dynamic tension, 1oz added down in foot box, deluxe pad attachments - 1lb 11oz Thermarest NeoAir Xlite Reg/Wide Sleep Pad (4.2 R-value) - 15oz Outdoor Vitals Pillow - 2.8oz Pillowcase - 2.4oz (luxury item) Cocoon Silk Liner - 4oz I’ve used this system in warm temps down in the Grand Canyon and frankly the silk liner was good for most of the night. When I got chilly a draped the quilt over my torso. Also have used this system in temps down in the teens. Had to take off my thermals. Only needed shorts, tee shirt, and no socks. I use a headband to keep my ears warm. The draft collar pulls up over my head if I really get cold. I’ve found the key to staying warm is using a wide air pad with decent R rating and sliding the attachment clips about 2 inches in from the pad edge on top. I’ve heard some people wrap their quilt around the pad and attach on the bottom of pad. That’s wrong! The silk liner is a bit pricey but so worth it. It keeps your bag free from body oils and stink. After a trip just wash the liner. Plus the silk is comfy on the naked skin. I’ll never go back to a mummy sleeping bag! The UGQ quilt ROCKS!
Weight wasn’t a deciding factor for me. The clear advantage of a quilt is that it’s less restrictive. The clear downside is that the ordering process requires more research because many quilts are highly customizable. Another downside is you can’t jam your pillow in the top of the quilt like you can a sleeping bag, so the pillow moves around, but there are workarounds for that.
I have used a 20° down mummy from Campmor for about 25 years now (there was a brief affair with wool blankets) and just tried out a Hammock Gear 20° Burrow quilt this winter (temps in the twenties, shelter by tent). I have now filed for separation from the bag and have forgotten my transgressions with wool. As a guy that sleeps really hot, I truly enjoyed my time with the quilt and will probably switch exclusively to a quilt from here on out. That said, the cold spots that provide me some relief at night would probably keep others awake so take what I say with a grain of salt. Dig your channel, Dan. Keep up the good work!
Also, just watched a You Tube video with a guy (Kyle Hates Hiking) pontificating on the reason's for this channel's success. That's when you know you are arriving. Nice job Dan!!
I hate the construction of my mummy bag, so I never zip it. I just tuck it under and it rarely gets drafty (the fact I rarely sleep in sub-freezing temps helps here). The hood is great right when I go to bed...heats me up much quicker and good to have in general.
Yeah that’s what I did the other day, I went for an overnight w my 20 degree mummy bag but it was only supposed to drop to 50 so def way too hot . Won’t be making that mistake again
I just got my first quilt. Went with a budget model just because I wasn’t sure I’d like it. Budget at $190. Hahah It’s a Featherstone 25 degree. I haven’t had it out on a hike yet, but I think I’ll like it. Weighting in at 23 oz it’s a lot lighter than my military sleeping bags, so that’s a huge plus. Thanks for all your videos.
Thinking you might be my spirit guide or something, because I got the alert for this video moments before forcing myself to make a decision on a new quilt. Just switched to a smaller pack and decided, and decided it was time to also replace my old 3lb 700 fill sleeping bag for better compression. Literally just spent the last four days going between brands to determine what to get. Absolutely perfect timing to answer so many questions.
When I was in the market to upgrade from my 4-pound sleeping bag to something lighter, I really did consider a quilt. But by the time you upgrade to a wider quilt to hopefully avoid drafts, you end up with a quilt that weighs only a couple of ounces less than the Feathered Friends Egret that I considered as competition. I tent camp and even in my 4-pound bag I loved to "mummy up" with the hood tightly around my face to keep warm. So I bucked the trend and bought the Feathered Friends bag!
thank you Dan, all good points, just like you have said: different strokes for different folks, I own both quilts and sleeping bags but would use quilts only in the summer, once temperature falls below 40F I feel much more cozy and comfortable in a close up sleeping bag with the hood on my bald head and no drafts. It's much more comfortable for me to sleep just in the thermal base layer in the cocoon sleeping bag then to have a fleece, or puffy on me with the hood or hat, so for me quilt wins in the summer, other three seasons sleeping bags
Sleeping bag. I have a Cats Meow from the 90s. Didn’t get used much as life happened and I didn’t do my big hike, Olympus and fly fish floating the Columbia. I have a Wilderness Permit for Yosemite with Half Dome cables in June and will apply for GNP Backcountry on the fifteenth. I have St. Mary campground reserved and I’ll do a walk in if needed. Grand Canyon and Olympic Range next year! Dan, I owe some of this to you. Your videos are great and I’ve used your advice to get back to where I belong. Anyway, it’s 2 lbs., Cats Meow, I can now get a 30° bag that 1lb 6oz. I have always been more comfortable in a sleeping bag. Ya, I could save 10oz but I’d rather lose some fat. I don’t need a quilt to go lighter. The olden days, 😂, are gone so the thoughts should be.
I always tell people to get a quilt for warmer weather but anything below 40 degrees Fahrenheit, get a sleeping bag. Great video keep up the good work.
I JUST tried a quilt for the first time. For a couple things. Still need more testing, but so far impressed. I had some concerns, but It's been working out well for me so far! I wasn't going to buy one because I didn't think the price was worth it for the weight savings (I have a Western Mountaineering bag). But my bf needed a new sleeping bag....so he decided since a double quilt was lighter than his sleeping bag, he would just do that! haha
Dan, this is PERFECT timing. I am 'sleeping bag shopping' right now. I have a great underquilt and need to replace my old sleeping bag. I've been hammocking with my bag for many years (partly unzipped). But I am totally leaning toward a new down sleeping bag. Since thats what I've been using for years. But my old poly bag is just too bulky! I need a down bag. I'm a big guy and the mummy bags are just too constrictive! Thanks
By far, the best and most extravagant gift I've ever received is a WM hooded Aspen, 25° bag when I was around 15. It wasn't a birthday present, it was just my Grandparents visiting and wanting to get me a special gift. That was approximately 18 years ago and I slept comfortably at 17° 2 years ago in that same bag. It's 2 lbs 2 oz and whenever I look at a replacement, nothing is light and warm enough to warrant a replacement. I try to go out about 6 times a year so I haven't beat it up, I've stored it well, and done my best to protect it but I can't endorse any piece of equipment I've ever had as much as a high quality sleeping system.
Great post , I luckily borrowed a quilt before buying one and frankly don’t get all the hype , I’m perfectly happy with my snugpak special forces system
Yes the mystical magical sleeping bag, horse poo saying it weighs more. It does cost less in general even though it offers more. Can be used as a quilt if u wish. Bag eliminates cold spots and drafts and fancy strapping systems. On a sticky warm night when I get down to just a pr of undies I'm not sticking to a clammy mattress. I could go on but I guess u see my preference ✌️
I’m team sleeping bag (for now!) because a) I love the cocooning feeling! b) it’s just what I have c) I’m a super cold sleeper so drafts scare me! But I REALLY want to test the quilts! Ps. Love this backdrop bro!
I use a Rab neutrino 600. It has the foot box, it's easy to leave the zip open under your back and wear as a quilt. If it's a bit chilly to wrap the hood under your shoulder then wear the hood. If it is really cold the option is available to use as intended as a sleeping bag. Best of both worlds.
Sleeping bag all the way. Covers any and all potential environments/situations. I use the Western Mountaineering ExtremeLite series for 3 season (45, 32, 20 deg bags; yes, that's like $1.5k in bags, but so be it. They're the best IMHO), and layer on clothing for cooler, or simply open up the zipper for warmer (also, you can simply drape it over oneself like a quilt and leave the feet free if in a tent...I always use a tent of some sort). I understand the UL peeps desire for saving few grams, but totally not my jam. To each their own. Happy camping!
Warm weather - quilts are fine. Approaching freezing, most people find a quilt too draughty. Between 30f and 10f, many people these days go for a hybrid like the Feathered Friends Flicker, which you can use as a quilt or a mummy as temperature fluctuates.
Hi Dan I enjoyed your video. My first sleeping bag was a 20* Teton Sports which I enjoyed but as a big guy it was too constricting. Second bag was an REI Regular Wide 20 * Lumen, 5 oz heavier than Teton. I now have a 20 * EE Revelation wide and I like it very much even though I am still in the process of dialing it in. I have had it down to 25* sleeping in a shelter and was very comfortable. Have a great weekend.
I've become a quilt guy over the years mainly for reasons of weight and space (bike packing) but you're dead right, getting a good night's sleep is fundamental to having a good time in the backcountry and you do make some good points in favour of sleeping bags. I've never actually bothered with the quilt straps but just wrap myself up in the quilt or use the loops to tie the sides together to make it effectively into a sleeping bag.
@@defeqel6537 in a sampling of exactly 1, the REI Magma 30 sleeping bag weighs .8 oz more than the REI Magma 30 quilt. That’s a whopping 4% savings! The quilt is $40 cheaper though.
Good stuff!!! I'm a ground dweller use an aegismax 35° no hood sleeping bag like a quilt sometimes, it holds my sleeping pad in place and since it's not attached to the pad I can roll around and have complete coverage if needed or allow ventilation by flipping up a side...no need for a quilt. I understand ULrs and hammockers a quilt is probably best
Feathered friends Flicker UL is both a full zip bag and a quilt.. fully functional as both and the temperature rating is very accurate. I have the 20 degree and it's amazing. Favorite piece of gear
Bought few products last fall and cant wait to test them out. Picked up Outdoor vitals arie and winterial hammock kit underquilt/blanket down some of this will be used in wildland fire season
I recently switched to a Kelty Galactic 30. It's a retangle down sleeping bag that has a drawstring top. I can use it like a traditional sleeping bag, cinch the top if I want a mummy bag, or partially zip up the foot box if I want to use it like a quilt. It's super versatile and weighs about 2 1/2lbs.
I purchased my first quilt in 2015. Unless I starting doing winter camping, I don't see myself going back to a restrictive bag. I don't use straps. I do, however, have a wide quilt and pad. It's easy enough to tuck the quilt in when I roll over. Also, snapping the top of the quilt together helps create a cocoon-like shape of the quilt. Stay away from "narrow" quilts unless you are a one position back sleeper.
Very interesting comparisons. Thanks. I've used sleeping bags all the time - tent camping, generally. Never any problem regulating the temperature - can always unzip the side if I'm getting too hot. When I tried out my hammock, I used my sleeping bag unzipped most of the way to form a "quilt with a foot box" and that seemed to work fine - but definitely need an underquilt for the hammock. For me, the sleeping bag gives versatility - use it as a bag (with insulated inflatable pad) if I'm in a tent or using my hammock on the ground in "bivvy" mode, use it as a quilt in the hammock.
Great advice and brave too. The Ultralight backpackers may come for you. Jen Yates, you’re not the only one using a sleeping bag as a quilt on warm nights and as a bag when it gets colder unexpectedly (e.g. UK). I too love the flexibility. Each to his/her own.
I was a ground dweller and recently started hammock camping . Took some time to get used to . As for sleeping bag versus quilt in a hammock I'm still working on figuring out what I like best . I do appreciate your thoughts and suggestions for such a matter. Love the videos. If possible can you do low cost products that work and are reliable.
I do this too but it’s a pain when having to get out & back in for pee breaks. However, I already have a great bag & pad. The extra $$$$ just because 2 maybe 3 times a night it’s inconvenient isn’t worth it to me. I read a viewers comment on another video that said he’s decided to mortgage his home & but all the products talked about so he could go camping. 😂
I’m taking my Katabatic Gear Flex 15 on the PCT with me this year. Their pad attachment system (which I don’t generally need/use) is pretty slick because it uses a cord lock type of thing to keep the clips underneath you from sliding, or there are loops on the sides of the quilt so you can just slip a piece of webbing through there and clip it behind you to hold the back closed (of course, there’s a video you can watch about that). Actual 15° performance for about 2 lbs, can’t beat it. It is literally my favorite piece of gear.
I have a ugq quilt, but I bought it before they had the fancy new side tension system. That being said, I love the thing with my whole heart. It's my favorite piece of gear and your videos have reminded me that I need to do a review on the thing now that I've had it for a couple seasons. Thank you.
a non-hooded sleeping bag like my zpacks classic is pretty much a quilt + a zipper. It's pretty much boils down to which closure systems fit your needs more.
I always hated sleeping bags (Even when I was a kid). I move around all night and would always get tanged up. The first time I used a quilt I loved it. Much more freedom of movement. I agree if it's very cold there is a technique to using it however that was a minor price to pay considering I could sleep without having to fight the sleeping bag all night.
As I'm watching this I'm actually writing an e-mail to UGQ to get some help customizing a quilt just right for me. Somehow the concept haven't really made it's way to Denmark just yet, so it's a little tricky when you cant see, feel and try it before you buy it. Hopefully it all works out! Ty for your vid btw Dan!
I love, love, love my quilt. I always hated sleeping in a sleeping bag, I even got panic attacks in them due to claustrophobia and had to sleep in an open sleeping bag anyways. But my quilt is just awesome. I never got any drafts in because mine has side baffles. I can move in it like crazy and I always have the feeling of freedom. Quilt = love
I kick around a lot in my sleep, I went with a Sierra Designs cloud 800 35° which is very light weight. It has a sleeve to keep it on your pad, and has no insulation on the back, while having a ventable foot box. Highly recommend it!
As a bicycle camper in Texas, I'm able to get away with a quilt and 3/4 sleeping pad in my hammock. My winter quilt is a Thermarest Technical Blanket. I don't think they make them anymore, but it is completely adequate for all but the harshest of weather, (did I mention that I'm in Texas?). I have a home-brew summer quilt that I use, also. I bought at cheap squared sleeping bag, discarded the synthetic insulation and replaced it with 1/4-inch quilting foam. Then I cut down the width, sewed it up and added a drawstring at the bottom to cynch it around my feet.
Even with the straps drafts still will come in and I’m a cold sleeper so sleeping bag all the way I’ll take the extra weight plus o found my north face 600 fill someone was throwing away just washed it and dried it twice in the dryer like knew :)
I remember going backpacking with both....and old Coleman flannel square bag...an actual quilt...all on an old American Camper external frame backpack..... 10 yrs old - ish....carrying 30-40 lbs of gear.....sucking it up....and still having a good time. Lol.
I have one sleeping bag that I have used for around 5 years now the Ledge Sports Scorpion +45. I got it off amazon for 40 dollars! I pack it without the stuff sack at the bottom of my bag, and it weighs around 8 oz. Its a great summer bag, and I have used it in 23 degree snow camping weather with a liner, and layers. lol I will probably snag a 20 degree bag/quilt for next winter.
I Hammock camp and have for over 60 years with an occasional night in a tent. Had sleeping bags and ended up using them unzipped about 3/4 of the way down to be comfortable. When they were zipped up all the way I looked like a caterpillar when getting in them in the hammock. Then I realized the material in the bag , under me , was compresses and absolutely useless as insulation ( just extra weight ) . All my bags were donated to folks that wanted them. Now my self inflating mattress was introduced to the quilt. Just a plain old quilt without any bells , whistles , straps , cords or anchor points , nothing but the quilt. Cold weather and a draft , I tuck it in along the side of myself and the air mattress , problem solved. Plus quilts are so much easier to get in and out of all the time , even in the wee hours of the night. lol
I think you chose the wrong quilt sizes for your sleeping habits. They often come in wider cuts as well which is great if you move around a bit. I'd also opt for a proper liner as well to be more comfy on the pad . They also come with hoods yet the combination is still lighter than a full bag.
The other big reason that some people favor quilts is that they are less confining. I had to ditch my Kelty sleeping bags because I could barely move inside them with my wide shoulders, although I don't consider myself all that big of a guy. I didn't want a quilt, however, because I don't like my back exposed - although I do have a 6.9R sleeping pad. I found the perfect solution with the Therm-a-Rest Questar bag, which allows plenty of wiggle room for a mummy bag. Got a great deal on it, too!
Most of my backpacking is over 10k and the extra 8oz of a sleeping bag over a quilt is necessary. If it’s hot well that’s what the zipper is for. Ain’t no zipper on a quilt so if it’s cold I have no choice and no sleep but hey I saved 8oz!
After a life time using sleeping bags Ive been trying the sea to summit quilt system. I find that I need to use a warmer pad with it so the weight saving doesn't work out. It is a lot more comfortable tho with the legs less restrictive. I will still use a sleeping bag in cold conditions.
i don't sleep on the ground anymore, so quilts. indoors and out, every night. i've never slept outside at a temperature colder than -15F, but i do ok with the gear i have.
Sierra Designs Backcountry Bed. Best bag ever. It's like a bag/quilt hybrid - no zippers. Has vent for feet and sleeve for your pad so you don't roll off.
Sleeping Bag. I have a Freedom Trail Sleeping Pod - it’s extra wide so I don’t feel restricted. I always have my camp blanket with me if it gets too cold for just the Pod, and thermals + layers help in cold weather.
I often have problems sleeping, so I wanted to most comfortable bag, at a reasonable weight. I went for a Nunatak quilt. They also have a system with shock cord on both sides. Size and cut can be customised to all needs / preferences.
I camp mostly on the beaches of South Carolina. I use a quilt because a sleeping bag is WAY too flippin' hot. In July, I can comfortably sleep with lots of air flowing in and around me but still have the comfort of something on me. In February, I can zip up the foot box, clip in the sides, and still be warm enough for the 40* overnight temps. That's right. 40* overnight. In February. It's perfect.
I've always slept in a sleeping bag. Always used it as a blanket and cursed that hood. This year I learned that there is one like this. Quilt! Now I just have to find the right one.
I couldn't care less what anyone uses. I just think it's great that we have so many options. I personally prefer quilts, because I am a hammock camper. My underquilt provides plenty of side- coverage, so I don't really have to worry about drafts. Plus, I never liked the restricted feeling of a mummy bag. I prefer sleeping in figure 4 position, and could never do that in a mummy bag.
Thanks Dan, I truly appreciate your realistic comments. There are a lot of people who do minimal hiking and backpacking, and just want something that will do the best "average" performance. We do not need the trendy, good for one type of use equipment. I also appreciate the comments that allow me to consider that while the quilt format might work well for hammock camping, perhaps I might only do the hammock thing a dozen times, ever, and tent with the kids most of the time, from the back of the car. I just cannot afford multiple versions of "Sleeping Insulation" systems. Thanks again.
I would say get one quilt that works as under-quilt if you're a hammock camper and get sleeping bag as more versatile version of top-quilt, especially if you sometimes go out with a tent. And yes, quilts are for hammocks, fun to see whole movie about that fact :)
You can pry my Katabatic gear flex quilt from my cold dead fingers... except it would take a lot in that thing to make me cold and dead. They also have a differential cut with elastic and it is amazing for draft protection. I totally get the debate about sleeping bags, but I absolutely love how versatile my quilt is and how I don’t feel suffocated when I side sleep. At the end of the day it is a decision backpackers will need to make and there’s no wrong sleep solution, just find what you prefer. Borrow a friend’s to try out for a weekend getaway before you commit.
I never heard anyone talk about regulating temperature. That’s a great point because I’m always hot in the morning because we usually camp in the spring or late summer
WOW!!.. I think this might be the most informative vid you’ve done.. as you said .. in other vids there are omissions of info..straps.. draft etc.. Nice job brother!!!
Quilt for sure. I only have 1 quilt, a 30 degree from Hammock Gear. I have a trip coming up to Red River Gorge and am a little worried about the over night temps and my quilt not being warm enough. I have a sleeping bag liner that I am going to take with me. Curious to see if it adds the warmth I need and help keep the cold from getting to be through the gaps.
You need to check out the Zenbivy Bed. Its a quilt and an EN-rated sleeping bag. It solves the quilt problems you describe without straps. It uses a fitted sheet that does not restrict you, and does seal out drafts. It has head insulation/pillow management. If you don’t need a full sleeping bag; its a quilt too.
Quilts are more versatile. Forget straps use as a blanket. More than enough comfort and warmth for the level of comfort I expect in the outdoors. Lighter and also more compact.
This is so interesting. Perhaps I totally have missed this at home and others willl laugh at me.. but I have been hiking for about 35 years and I never heard anyone in sweden talking about or using a quilt. It was actually first when I started looking at youtube that I. Oticed ma y talking about a sleeping bag or a quilt. i had to check.. and yes they are sold here too.. but never ever heard about it untill recently.. or it might be that we in sweden would call anything you sleep in a tent or hammock for a sleeping bag but you would call some of them quilt.. don’t know. But nice video nevertheless!
Great topic, great information to consider. I don't own a quilt yet, but will be trying out hammock camping this year and I will be thinking about what you've said, thanks!
I appreciated this video. I’m an extremely cold sleeper and can’t seem to get rid of that draft at night with my Enlightened Equipment Revelation. Been thinking about swapping to a zpacks for the reasons you mentioned.
I went with a REI 10 degree 900 fill. Pretty light but bulker and heavier than my buddies Enlightened Revelation. On bike theres not much room and thought about going to a quilt, but I get drafts in a sleeping bag. lol
I am a ground sleeper and I prefer a quilt. I weigh 250lb so Im a little larger than most sleeping bags are designed for. I also move around a lot when sleeping and its hard to move in a sleeping bag. I am also a side sleeper and most sleeping bags are tailored to back sleepers. The lesser weight is just a fringe benefit. Though I use a pretty large quilt to ensure with all my tossing and turning that I can keep the edges down pretty well so some of my weight savings are offset with that. I sleep well in the woods.
I have the Enlightened Equipment Convert 20 degrees and I think it's a great solution for when you just can't figure out wether to buy a quilt or a sleepingbag. Too warm? Zip it open halfway and use it like a quilt. Still too warm? Zip it open completely and use it as a blanket 👌
I think important considerations to make are 1. How you sleep 2. Your body size. If you are a back sleeper the bag might be no problem, side sleeping it can difficult in a bag. If you are big like myself you might find the bag very constricting. For me a quilt and highly insulated mat is a winning combo
I have an EE Revelation 20 for tent camping and I love it. I have camped in 25°F weather and it has done it's job well. I have slept in mummy sleeping bags before, but I prefer the quilt.
What’s your jam.. quilt or sleeping bag?
Used an EE quilt (before they started overfilling) and froze my butt off every time. Switched to a Sierra Designs Cloud 800 and haven't had a cold night since. I like the Cloud 800 because it combines features from quilts and bags and is still light weight and compressible. Would definitely recommend anyone wanting to try a quilt (or switching back from quilts) to give it a look.
I use a sleeping bag. Never used a quilt.
Still bag but unzipping it and using it quilt style till I can afford one
Large sleeping bag to keep my 75 pound puppy and myself warm while backpacking up north Wisconsin.
Hey Dan, Great channel and content! For me depends on season. We seem to have the same medical problem “Multi-Sleep-systemism” for winter always bag typically my Zpacs 10’ Full Zip, spring and summer my Zpacs 20’ Quilt.
Sleeping bag is a quilt when I activate it's unzip power converter, and it's a sleeping bag when I reverse the converter.
lol! to strue
I'm going back to bags for sub 40 temps. But an unzipped bag is no quilt. The strapping systems on quilts are surprisingly effective but fiddly.
But you’re carrying the extra weight, which is the entire reason for carrying a quilt.
@@lt6077its wider than a quilt unzipped. No need for straps. I've never had a draft issue using my sleeping bag as a quilt. Plus having a hood is great. An extra pound in weight oh well
Am I the only person who uses a sleeping bag as a quilt? Unzip it. Tuck your feet in. It's a quilt. Zip it up if it gets super cold / deaughty.
That's how I use a sleeping bag
Exactly, you have it if you need it
ditto
Exactly 🤣
Correct but too heavy so I changed to a quilt.
I appreciate that you have a different approach and different ideas from everyone else. You aren’t advising based off being a gear junkie but off of what will and won’t work. So thank you for that!
Quilts were a comfort game changer for me. I can actually move around and be comfortable along with temp regulation. Weight had nothing to do with the choice for me. I have an EE revelation wide long 10 degree. I’ve used it comfortably from 5F to 75F. When it’s cold I don’t have any draft problems, or if I do I bring the sides of the quilt closer with the pad straps and done. Also following their instructions for closing the bottom I never have drafts there either (another often heard complaint). I think it’s hard to go wrong with a quilt... if you can follow directions. I also love that I can get one with such a low temp rating and still use it in all but the hottest weather, try sleeping in 75 degree weather with a 10F sleeping bag, you’ll unzip it and use it like an uncomfortable misshapen quilt!
Dan I use a 30 deg quilt, UGQ and when it gets real cold I add a 50 deg sleeping bag. The together has kept me warm in the low teens. The best of both worlds.
Layering is awesome! I do that too.
I just did 15 in my 30 UGQ with clothes on, while I was chilly it wasn't horrible.
I’m a recent quilt convert and I love my UGQ quilt. I’m 6’ tall, weigh 188, and I’m a side sleeper. Here’s my sleep system:
UGQ Bandit XL 20Degree Sleeping Quilt - 60” wide by 78” long, 850 down, boxed flat sewn foot box, draft collar, no taper, dynamic tension, 1oz added down in foot box, deluxe pad attachments - 1lb 11oz
Thermarest NeoAir Xlite Reg/Wide Sleep Pad (4.2 R-value) - 15oz
Outdoor Vitals Pillow - 2.8oz
Pillowcase - 2.4oz (luxury item)
Cocoon Silk Liner - 4oz
I’ve used this system in warm temps down in the Grand Canyon and frankly the silk liner was good for most of the night. When I got chilly a draped the quilt over my torso. Also have used this system in temps down in the teens. Had to take off my thermals. Only needed shorts, tee shirt, and no socks. I use a headband to keep my ears warm. The draft collar pulls up over my head if I really get cold. I’ve found the key to staying warm is using a wide air pad with decent R rating and sliding the attachment clips about 2 inches in from the pad edge on top. I’ve heard some people wrap their quilt around the pad and attach on the bottom of pad. That’s wrong! The silk liner is a bit pricey but so worth it. It keeps your bag free from body oils and stink. After a trip just wash the liner. Plus the silk is comfy on the naked skin. I’ll never go back to a mummy sleeping bag! The UGQ quilt ROCKS!
Weight wasn’t a deciding factor for me. The clear advantage of a quilt is that it’s less restrictive. The clear downside is that the ordering process requires more research because many quilts are highly customizable. Another downside is you can’t jam your pillow in the top of the quilt like you can a sleeping bag, so the pillow moves around, but there are workarounds for that.
I did the first 136 miles of the AT this summer with a nylon sleeping bag liner and (wait for it) a Costco quilt. It worked great.
I have used a 20° down mummy from Campmor for about 25 years now (there was a brief affair with wool blankets) and just tried out a Hammock Gear 20° Burrow quilt this winter (temps in the twenties, shelter by tent). I have now filed for separation from the bag and have forgotten my transgressions with wool. As a guy that sleeps really hot, I truly enjoyed my time with the quilt and will probably switch exclusively to a quilt from here on out. That said, the cold spots that provide me some relief at night would probably keep others awake so take what I say with a grain of salt. Dig your channel, Dan. Keep up the good work!
Also, just watched a You Tube video with a guy (Kyle Hates Hiking) pontificating on the reason's for this channel's success. That's when you know you are arriving. Nice job Dan!!
I just use my mummy bag as a quilt. I'm a side & stomach sleeper so I have tons of room to move.
What kind do you have?
I have been doing this for 20 years I had to zip my sleeping bag very few times mostly night in icy cold deserts
I hate the construction of my mummy bag, so I never zip it. I just tuck it under and it rarely gets drafty (the fact I rarely sleep in sub-freezing temps helps here). The hood is great right when I go to bed...heats me up much quicker and good to have in general.
Yeah that’s what I did the other day, I went for an overnight w my 20 degree mummy bag but it was only supposed to drop to 50 so def way too hot . Won’t be making that mistake again
“My quilt wasn’t wide enough for what I was doing in a tent” ummmmm ok then 👌
I laughed at that too.
He be fuckin dem squirrels.
😜
I just got my first quilt. Went with a budget model just because I wasn’t sure I’d like it. Budget at $190. Hahah
It’s a Featherstone 25 degree. I haven’t had it out on a hike yet, but I think I’ll like it. Weighting in at 23 oz it’s a lot lighter than my military sleeping bags, so that’s a huge plus. Thanks for all your videos.
Thinking you might be my spirit guide or something, because I got the alert for this video moments before forcing myself to make a decision on a new quilt.
Just switched to a smaller pack and decided, and decided it was time to also replace my old 3lb 700 fill sleeping bag for better compression. Literally just spent the last four days going between brands to determine what to get. Absolutely perfect timing to answer so many questions.
When I was in the market to upgrade from my 4-pound sleeping bag to something lighter, I really did consider a quilt. But by the time you upgrade to a wider quilt to hopefully avoid drafts, you end up with a quilt that weighs only a couple of ounces less than the Feathered Friends Egret that I considered as competition. I tent camp and even in my 4-pound bag I loved to "mummy up" with the hood tightly around my face to keep warm. So I bucked the trend and bought the Feathered Friends bag!
thank you Dan, all good points, just like you have said: different strokes for different folks, I own both quilts and sleeping bags but would use quilts only in the summer, once temperature falls below 40F I feel much more cozy and comfortable in a close up sleeping bag with the hood on my bald head and no drafts. It's much more comfortable for me to sleep just in the thermal base layer in the cocoon sleeping bag then to have a fleece, or puffy on me with the hood or hat, so for me quilt wins in the summer, other three seasons sleeping bags
Sleeping bag. I have a Cats Meow from the 90s. Didn’t get used much as life happened and I didn’t do my big hike, Olympus and fly fish floating the Columbia. I have a Wilderness Permit for Yosemite with Half Dome cables in June and will apply for GNP Backcountry on the fifteenth. I have St. Mary campground reserved and I’ll do a walk in if needed. Grand Canyon and Olympic Range next year! Dan, I owe some of this to you. Your videos are great and I’ve used your advice to get back to where I belong. Anyway, it’s 2 lbs., Cats Meow, I can now get a 30° bag that 1lb 6oz. I have always been more comfortable in a sleeping bag. Ya, I could save 10oz but I’d rather lose some fat. I don’t need a quilt to go lighter. The olden days, 😂, are gone so the thoughts should be.
I use a quilt just so I can avoid the awkward sleeping bag shuffle while in a hammock. Also, pack volume is important to me.
I always tell people to get a quilt for warmer weather but anything below 40 degrees Fahrenheit, get a sleeping bag. Great video keep up the good work.
I JUST tried a quilt for the first time. For a couple things. Still need more testing, but so far impressed. I had some concerns, but It's been working out well for me so far! I wasn't going to buy one because I didn't think the price was worth it for the weight savings (I have a Western Mountaineering bag). But my bf needed a new sleeping bag....so he decided since a double quilt was lighter than his sleeping bag, he would just do that! haha
Amy Routt , good luck on your up coming hike! Love your vlogs.
@@Wondering_Fireball Thank you! :)
Dan, this is PERFECT timing. I am 'sleeping bag shopping' right now. I have a great underquilt and need to replace my old sleeping bag. I've been hammocking with my bag for many years (partly unzipped). But I am totally leaning toward a new down sleeping bag. Since thats what I've been using for years. But my old poly bag is just too bulky! I need a down bag. I'm a big guy and the mummy bags are just too constrictive! Thanks
By far, the best and most extravagant gift I've ever received is a WM hooded Aspen, 25° bag when I was around 15. It wasn't a birthday present, it was just my Grandparents visiting and wanting to get me a special gift. That was approximately 18 years ago and I slept comfortably at 17° 2 years ago in that same bag. It's 2 lbs 2 oz and whenever I look at a replacement, nothing is light and warm enough to warrant a replacement. I try to go out about 6 times a year so I haven't beat it up, I've stored it well, and done my best to protect it but I can't endorse any piece of equipment I've ever had as much as a high quality sleeping system.
Great points Dan. I sure do love my quilts, I need to pick up one more now. Still have 2 bags, but they haven't seen use in almost 2 years now.
Sleeping bag, lightweight 35°, open in summer, sealed and add a jacket in winter. Switch to heavier bag when it drops below 15.
Great post , I luckily borrowed a quilt before buying one and frankly don’t get all the hype , I’m perfectly happy with my snugpak special forces system
Yes the mystical magical sleeping bag, horse poo saying it weighs more. It does cost less in general even though it offers more. Can be used as a quilt if u wish. Bag eliminates cold spots and drafts and fancy strapping systems. On a sticky warm night when I get down to just a pr of undies I'm not sticking to a clammy mattress. I could go on but I guess u see my preference ✌️
I’m team sleeping bag (for now!) because a) I love the cocooning feeling! b) it’s just what I have c) I’m a super cold sleeper so drafts scare me! But I REALLY want to test the quilts!
Ps. Love this backdrop bro!
I use a Rab neutrino 600. It has the foot box, it's easy to leave the zip open under your back and wear as a quilt. If it's a bit chilly to wrap the hood under your shoulder then wear the hood. If it is really cold the option is available to use as intended as a sleeping bag. Best of both worlds.
Sleeping bag all the way. Covers any and all potential environments/situations. I use the Western Mountaineering ExtremeLite series for 3 season (45, 32, 20 deg bags; yes, that's like $1.5k in bags, but so be it. They're the best IMHO), and layer on clothing for cooler, or simply open up the zipper for warmer (also, you can simply drape it over oneself like a quilt and leave the feet free if in a tent...I always use a tent of some sort). I understand the UL peeps desire for saving few grams, but totally not my jam. To each their own. Happy camping!
Thank you fir talking me out of a quilt!😄 I was really torn and all the hype around quilts was making me feel even more torn between the two.
Warm weather - quilts are fine. Approaching freezing, most people find a quilt too draughty. Between 30f and 10f, many people these days go for a hybrid like the Feathered Friends Flicker, which you can use as a quilt or a mummy as temperature fluctuates.
Hi Dan I enjoyed your video. My first sleeping bag was a 20* Teton Sports which I enjoyed but as a big guy it was too constricting. Second bag was an REI Regular Wide 20 * Lumen, 5 oz heavier than Teton. I now have a 20 * EE Revelation wide and I like it very much even though I am still in the process of dialing it in. I have had it down to 25* sleeping in a shelter and was very comfortable. Have a great weekend.
I've become a quilt guy over the years mainly for reasons of weight and space (bike packing) but you're dead right, getting a good night's sleep is fundamental to having a good time in the backcountry and you do make some good points in favour of sleeping bags. I've never actually bothered with the quilt straps but just wrap myself up in the quilt or use the loops to tie the sides together to make it effectively into a sleeping bag.
You can use...a sleeping bag like a Quilt, but on the cold night you will have the benefits full blown sleeping bag . . .
The Main thing would be weight. The quilt Will always be lighter
@@alexanderfriis1 how much weight are we talking?
@@dingodoggy66 I'm not who you asked this of, but from what I've seen, 30-50%
@@defeqel6537 in a sampling of exactly 1, the REI Magma 30 sleeping bag weighs .8 oz more than the REI Magma 30 quilt. That’s a whopping 4% savings! The quilt is $40 cheaper though.
Good stuff!!! I'm a ground dweller use an aegismax 35° no hood sleeping bag like a quilt sometimes, it holds my sleeping pad in place and since it's not attached to the pad I can roll around and have complete coverage if needed or allow ventilation by flipping up a side...no need for a quilt. I understand ULrs and hammockers a quilt is probably best
Feathered friends Flicker UL is both a full zip bag and a quilt.. fully functional as both and the temperature rating is very accurate. I have the 20 degree and it's amazing. Favorite piece of gear
Bought few products last fall and cant wait to test them out. Picked up Outdoor vitals arie and winterial hammock kit underquilt/blanket down some of this will be used in wildland fire season
As someone who just got into backpacking (thank you for indirectly helping my decide and plan my hike btw) this is really insightful. So thanks
Might just be stubborn and set in my ways, but a life time of sleeping bag sleeping has left me with no desire to change. lol
Take a shot every time Dan says "Quilt".
HughRamsey I would but I don’t want to die.
HughRamsey , you’d be drunk in the first 5 minutes.
I'm getting my stomach pumped right now 🤣
I recently switched to a Kelty Galactic 30. It's a retangle down sleeping bag that has a drawstring top. I can use it like a traditional sleeping bag, cinch the top if I want a mummy bag, or partially zip up the foot box if I want to use it like a quilt. It's super versatile and weighs about 2 1/2lbs.
I purchased my first quilt in 2015. Unless I starting doing winter camping, I don't see myself going back to a restrictive bag. I don't use straps. I do, however, have a wide quilt and pad. It's easy enough to tuck the quilt in when I roll over. Also, snapping the top of the quilt together helps create a cocoon-like shape of the quilt.
Stay away from "narrow" quilts unless you are a one position back sleeper.
Very interesting comparisons. Thanks.
I've used sleeping bags all the time - tent camping, generally. Never any problem regulating the temperature - can always unzip the side if I'm getting too hot. When I tried out my hammock, I used my sleeping bag unzipped most of the way to form a "quilt with a foot box" and that seemed to work fine - but definitely need an underquilt for the hammock. For me, the sleeping bag gives versatility - use it as a bag (with insulated inflatable pad) if I'm in a tent or using my hammock on the ground in "bivvy" mode, use it as a quilt in the hammock.
Great advice and brave too. The Ultralight backpackers may come for you. Jen Yates, you’re not the only one using a sleeping bag as a quilt on warm nights and as a bag when it gets colder unexpectedly (e.g. UK). I too love the flexibility. Each to his/her own.
I was a ground dweller and recently started hammock camping . Took some time to get used to . As for sleeping bag versus quilt in a hammock I'm still working on figuring out what I like best . I do appreciate your thoughts and suggestions for such a matter. Love the videos. If possible can you do low cost products that work and are reliable.
Larry Terry unzipped sleeping bag is what i use. Basically a quilt but if it gets cold you can zip it up
@@2caiden4u I use the same thing a sleeping bag . why buy something else when you already have a sleeping bad just the same in my opinion
I do this too but it’s a pain when having to get out & back in for pee breaks. However, I already have a great bag & pad. The extra $$$$ just because 2 maybe 3 times a night it’s inconvenient isn’t worth it to me.
I read a viewers comment on another video that said he’s decided to mortgage his home & but all the products talked about so he could go camping. 😂
I’m taking my Katabatic Gear Flex 15 on the PCT with me this year. Their pad attachment system (which I don’t generally need/use) is pretty slick because it uses a cord lock type of thing to keep the clips underneath you from sliding, or there are loops on the sides of the quilt so you can just slip a piece of webbing through there and clip it behind you to hold the back closed (of course, there’s a video you can watch about that). Actual 15° performance for about 2 lbs, can’t beat it. It is literally my favorite piece of gear.
I have a ugq quilt, but I bought it before they had the fancy new side tension system. That being said, I love the thing with my whole heart. It's my favorite piece of gear and your videos have reminded me that I need to do a review on the thing now that I've had it for a couple seasons. Thank you.
a non-hooded sleeping bag like my zpacks classic is pretty much a quilt + a zipper. It's pretty much boils down to which closure systems fit your needs more.
Can two Zpacks classic zip together, for two people, in a tent?
UGQ quilts for the win. Hate the claustrophobic feeling of a mummy bag with a hood unless it is -20f. This quilt does it all in all seasons.
I always hated sleeping bags (Even when I was a kid). I move around all night and would always get tanged up. The first time I used a quilt I loved it. Much more freedom of movement. I agree if it's very cold there is a technique to using it however that was a minor price to pay considering I could sleep without having to fight the sleeping bag all night.
As I'm watching this I'm actually writing an e-mail to UGQ to get some help customizing a quilt just right for me. Somehow the concept haven't really made it's way to Denmark just yet, so it's a little tricky when you cant see, feel and try it before you buy it. Hopefully it all works out!
Ty for your vid btw Dan!
Sounds like we need an International Dan Becker expedition video series.... taking products across the globe.
I love, love, love my quilt. I always hated sleeping in a sleeping bag, I even got panic attacks in them due to claustrophobia and had to sleep in an open sleeping bag anyways. But my quilt is just awesome. I never got any drafts in because mine has side baffles. I can move in it like crazy and I always have the feeling of freedom.
Quilt = love
What quilt do you use?
I kick around a lot in my sleep, I went with a Sierra Designs cloud 800 35° which is very light weight. It has a sleeve to keep it on your pad, and has no insulation on the back, while having a ventable foot box. Highly recommend it!
Youre a drummer too! You keep getting cooler and cooler, sir!
I'm overweight. Finding an XXL sleeping bag is near impossible. Quilt solves that issue
Mss for cold tent camping below -20f, but just ordered an Exped downmat. Might just use my hammock gear quilt. My quilts work great for my hammock!
As a bicycle camper in Texas, I'm able to get away with a quilt and 3/4 sleeping pad in my hammock. My winter quilt is a Thermarest Technical Blanket. I don't think they make them anymore, but it is completely adequate for all but the harshest of weather, (did I mention that I'm in Texas?). I have a home-brew summer quilt that I use, also. I bought at cheap squared sleeping bag, discarded the synthetic insulation and replaced it with 1/4-inch quilting foam. Then I cut down the width, sewed it up and added a drawstring at the bottom to cynch it around my feet.
Even with the straps drafts still will come in and I’m a cold sleeper so sleeping bag all the way I’ll take the extra weight plus o found my north face 600 fill someone was throwing away just washed it and dried it twice in the dryer like knew :)
"it's kinda like a big blanket" - No, a quilt is exactly a big blanket.
I thought you said "Pig Blanket".
I remember going backpacking with both....and old Coleman flannel square bag...an actual quilt...all on an old American Camper external frame backpack..... 10 yrs old - ish....carrying 30-40 lbs of gear.....sucking it up....and still having a good time. Lol.
I have one sleeping bag that I have used for around 5 years now the Ledge Sports Scorpion +45. I got it off amazon for 40 dollars! I pack it without the stuff sack at the bottom of my bag, and it weighs around 8 oz. Its a great summer bag, and I have used it in 23 degree snow camping weather with a liner, and layers. lol I will probably snag a 20 degree bag/quilt for next winter.
Packing ligthn,freezing night> Old school sleeping bag , especialy my favourite Rab Ascent for winter activities, one of the best companies arround.
I Hammock camp and have for over 60 years with an occasional night in a tent. Had sleeping bags and ended up using them unzipped about 3/4 of the way down to be comfortable. When they were zipped up all the way I looked like a caterpillar when getting in them in the hammock. Then I realized the material in the bag , under me , was compresses and absolutely useless as insulation ( just extra weight ) . All my bags were donated to folks that wanted them.
Now my self inflating mattress was introduced to the quilt. Just a plain old quilt without any bells , whistles , straps , cords or anchor points , nothing but the quilt. Cold weather and a draft , I tuck it in along the side of myself and the air mattress , problem solved. Plus quilts are so much easier to get in and out of all the time , even in the wee hours of the night. lol
I think you chose the wrong quilt sizes for your sleeping habits. They often come in wider cuts as well which is great if you move around a bit. I'd also opt for a proper liner as well to be more comfy on the pad . They also come with hoods yet the combination is still lighter than a full bag.
As I’m starting hammock camping count me in for a quilt. Note to just save money for one 😂 it’s an unzipped sleeping bag until then
The other big reason that some people favor quilts is that they are less confining. I had to ditch my Kelty sleeping bags because I could barely move inside them with my wide shoulders, although I don't consider myself all that big of a guy. I didn't want a quilt, however, because I don't like my back exposed - although I do have a 6.9R sleeping pad. I found the perfect solution with the Therm-a-Rest Questar bag, which allows plenty of wiggle room for a mummy bag. Got a great deal on it, too!
Most of my backpacking is over 10k and the extra 8oz of a sleeping bag over a quilt is necessary. If it’s hot well that’s what the zipper is for. Ain’t no zipper on a quilt so if it’s cold I have no choice and no sleep but hey I saved 8oz!
After a life time using sleeping bags Ive been trying the sea to summit quilt system. I find that I need to use a warmer pad with it so the weight saving doesn't work out.
It is a lot more comfortable tho with the legs less restrictive. I will still use a sleeping bag in cold conditions.
Dan the man Becker. A man of mystery and intrigue.
A DRUMMER ;). Nice!
Great video as usual. Thanks for all the 411.
i don't sleep on the ground anymore, so quilts.
indoors and out, every night. i've never slept outside at a temperature colder than -15F, but i do ok with the gear i have.
Sierra Designs Backcountry Bed. Best bag ever. It's like a bag/quilt hybrid - no zippers. Has vent for feet and sleeve for your pad so you don't roll off.
Sleeping Bag. I have a Freedom Trail Sleeping Pod - it’s extra wide so I don’t feel restricted. I always have my camp blanket with me if it gets too cold for just the Pod, and thermals + layers help in cold weather.
I often have problems sleeping, so I wanted to most comfortable bag, at a reasonable weight. I went for a Nunatak quilt. They also have a system with shock cord on both sides. Size and cut can be customised to all needs / preferences.
Hell yeah! Bag all the way. Simple and versatile.
I camp mostly on the beaches of South Carolina. I use a quilt because a sleeping bag is WAY too flippin' hot. In July, I can comfortably sleep with lots of air flowing in and around me but still have the comfort of something on me. In February, I can zip up the foot box, clip in the sides, and still be warm enough for the 40* overnight temps. That's right. 40* overnight. In February. It's perfect.
I've always slept in a sleeping bag. Always used it as a blanket and cursed that hood.
This year I learned that there is one like this. Quilt!
Now I just have to find the right one.
I have an extra wide sleeping quilt and I love it, sleeping bags are definitely a thing of the past for me.
I couldn't care less what anyone uses. I just think it's great that we have so many options. I personally prefer quilts, because I am a hammock camper. My underquilt provides plenty of side- coverage, so I don't really have to worry about drafts. Plus, I never liked the restricted feeling of a mummy bag. I prefer sleeping in figure 4 position, and could never do that in a mummy bag.
Figure 4 position. Great description! That's how I sleep too, so a mummy bag would be the worst choice for me! 😳🤪
Thanks Dan,
I truly appreciate your realistic comments.
There are a lot of people who do minimal hiking and backpacking, and just want something that will do the best "average" performance. We do not need the trendy, good for one type of use equipment. I also appreciate the comments that allow me to consider that while the quilt format might work well for hammock camping, perhaps I might only do the hammock thing a dozen times, ever, and tent with the kids most of the time, from the back of the car. I just cannot afford multiple versions of "Sleeping Insulation" systems. Thanks again.
I would say get one quilt that works as under-quilt if you're a hammock camper and get sleeping bag as more versatile version of top-quilt, especially if you sometimes go out with a tent. And yes, quilts are for hammocks, fun to see whole movie about that fact :)
You can pry my Katabatic gear flex quilt from my cold dead fingers... except it would take a lot in that thing to make me cold and dead. They also have a differential cut with elastic and it is amazing for draft protection. I totally get the debate about sleeping bags, but I absolutely love how versatile my quilt is and how I don’t feel suffocated when I side sleep.
At the end of the day it is a decision backpackers will need to make and there’s no wrong sleep solution, just find what you prefer. Borrow a friend’s to try out for a weekend getaway before you commit.
I never heard anyone talk about regulating temperature. That’s a great point because I’m always hot in the morning because we usually camp in the spring or late summer
I prefer a quilt because I run hot. The draft you get is amazing for people like me.
WOW!!.. I think this might be the most informative vid you’ve done.. as you said .. in other vids there are omissions of info..straps.. draft etc..
Nice job brother!!!
Thousands of dollars in quilts. Dan is one lucky man. I knew I should have been an insurance salesman.
Quilt for sure. I only have 1 quilt, a 30 degree from Hammock Gear. I have a trip coming up to Red River Gorge and am a little worried about the over night temps and my quilt not being warm enough. I have a sleeping bag liner that I am going to take with me. Curious to see if it adds the warmth I need and help keep the cold from getting to be through the gaps.
You need to check out the Zenbivy Bed. Its a quilt and an EN-rated sleeping bag. It solves the quilt problems you describe without straps. It uses a fitted sheet that does not restrict you, and does seal out drafts. It has head insulation/pillow management. If you don’t need a full sleeping bag; its a quilt too.
Quilts are more versatile. Forget straps use as a blanket. More than enough comfort and warmth for the level of comfort I expect in the outdoors. Lighter and also more compact.
This is so interesting. Perhaps I totally have missed this at home and others willl laugh at me.. but I have been hiking for about 35 years and I never heard anyone in sweden talking about or using a quilt. It was actually first when I started looking at youtube that I. Oticed ma y talking about a sleeping bag or a quilt. i had to check.. and yes they are sold here too.. but never ever heard about it untill recently.. or it might be that we in sweden would call anything you sleep in a tent or hammock for a sleeping bag but you would call some of them quilt.. don’t know. But nice video nevertheless!
Great topic, great information to consider. I don't own a quilt yet, but will be trying out hammock camping this year and I will be thinking about what you've said, thanks!
Good advice all around. Thanks for not just promoting your preference!
EE Convert is the best of both worlds!
THANK YOU!! I don't want to waste any more money on gear lol appreciate the honesty Dan stay strong&healthy safe&happy!!(=✌💚
I appreciated this video. I’m an extremely cold sleeper and can’t seem to get rid of that draft at night with my Enlightened Equipment Revelation. Been thinking about swapping to a zpacks for the reasons you mentioned.
I have the same problem, I move a lot in my sleep, and the draught just wakes me up all night.
I went with a REI 10 degree 900 fill. Pretty light but bulker and heavier than my buddies Enlightened Revelation. On bike theres not much room and thought about going to a quilt, but I get drafts in a sleeping bag. lol
I am a ground sleeper and I prefer a quilt. I weigh 250lb so Im a little larger than most sleeping bags are designed for. I also move around a lot when sleeping and its hard to move in a sleeping bag. I am also a side sleeper and most sleeping bags are tailored to back sleepers. The lesser weight is just a fringe benefit. Though I use a pretty large quilt to ensure with all my tossing and turning that I can keep the edges down pretty well so some of my weight savings are offset with that.
I sleep well in the woods.
ZENBIVY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Best of both worlds.Best sleep I've had outdoors in a long time.
I have the Enlightened Equipment Convert 20 degrees and I think it's a great solution for when you just can't figure out wether to buy a quilt or a sleepingbag. Too warm? Zip it open halfway and use it like a quilt. Still too warm? Zip it open completely and use it as a blanket 👌
I think important considerations to make are 1. How you sleep 2. Your body size. If you are a back sleeper the bag might be no problem, side sleeping it can difficult in a bag. If you are big like myself you might find the bag very constricting. For me a quilt and highly insulated mat is a winning combo
I have an EE Revelation 20 for tent camping and I love it. I have camped in 25°F weather and it has done it's job well. I have slept in mummy sleeping bags before, but I prefer the quilt.