Game of Thrones - Season 8 Review
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Chris Stuckmann reviews Game of Thrones Season 8. - Розваги
HBO offered the writers more seasons and episodes. Let that sink in.
True, 10 seasons were planed but the writers were so lazy the barelly made 8...
@@markozigo1623 They weren't lazy. Disney paid more for a Star Wars trilogy
GRRM even said that the marerial was there for the show to go on for 5 more seasons. D&D wanted to rush and finish it because they were hired for Star Wars :(
Does it matter?
Let it sink in
They wanted to make star wars movies I'll never support d and d again for ruining somethingnperfectly great
Tyrion: You killed hundreds of thousands of innocent lives
Dany: I can only count to twenty
3,6 roengten
@@CoarStolos What? XD Does Danies dragons breathe radiation?
Seriously, what a dumb comment...I can't believe that was her dialogue
@@madcourier6217 The only thing left of the iron throne was a black rock... Graphite!
@@jackmosley2218 hahaha yes Chernobyl
What made me angry was *WHY* the final season was rushed. HBO wanted them to do as many seasons as they could (let alone a full ten episodes for S08), but the writers refused to allow any other writers to take the reigns. It really angered the screenwriting community. Furthermore, they were in a hurry to finish the show because they were going to write a new Star Wars trilogy for Disney. The irony of it all is that Disney fired them after seeing how badly they botched this final season.
Is that true???
@@c.j.9072 Yep.
D + D dropped the ball so hard, it's such a shame
@@Jbtigers5 Damn that's crazy I actually just Binged GOT so I wasn't completely invested in the show but I really enjoyed it up until the end but I legit feel bad for the people that watched the show for years and the way that it ended for the fans just isint right. even the actors and actresses knew they were putting out a bogus end so props to them tho they all played there parts really well knowing the ending was atrutious.
@@c.j.9072 Please don't belive everything thats coming from Randy H.
The writers did not rush Game of Thrones so they could write Star Wars.
They told us years in advance, long before the Star Wars deal was a thing, that they wanted to end the show with 8 seasons. It's true that HBO wanted more seasons from them, but they never refused other writers to take the reigns for the show. I don't know where that rumor came from, but its just that, a rumor started by butthurt fans who diden't like the last season. And last of all, Disney did not fired them, at all. They simply changed their minds becuse they got a another deal from Netflix.
I'm not gonna say that the writers are 100% innocent, and one part of them probly wanted to finish up the show so they could move on too other things.
But I do feel really bad for them. I can't even imagine the amount of stress they had too go trough during the show's run. They even told us several times that they were scared too disappoint, especially when they ran out of book material. When they started to produce the first season, the author of the books even told them that he would finish writing the next book in the series before the show got to season 6, but that never happened. And I can't even blame the author either! It literally took him decades to plan out the series, and he is not even done yet. And the poor writers had it even worse because they had no choice but to finish up the series, they had deadlines.
So even though I have my own problems with season 8, I can't do nothing else but praise the writers. It was just too bad that their vision for the final season didn't match with big parts of the fandom, but they still managed to end the show. Not even the author could do that.
And I will always be grateful for them, because we woulden't have Game of Thrones without them :D
@@NickHalTV ok that's fair I understand that. You feel sorry for the writers and I understand that too but I feel sorry for the die hard fans that put alot of time watching the show and for it to end the way it did I can only look to the writers and know they could have came up with something different and better to wrap it all up. And the finished product was obviously rushed and just not thought out well so I.M.O The writers have to take some of the blame.
It’s been almost a year and I’m still extremely bitter.
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Bobby The Blizzard me too ☹️
Same
Right?? The most bitter of breakups 😩
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I have no clue what this means
Winter deserved a whole season. Danny’s descent into madness needed a whole season.
i agree
Exactly
I guess I'll never find out why the heck they screwed up such an amazing show / art!
this show supposed to be 10 season and they needed Martin. But i guess star wars more important for that gay writers.
@@user-lh5my4ws8j I feel like Martin wanted to distance himself from the writing of the show. He's said that he tries to avoid the influence of other writing. Martin gave D&D a road map for where characters were meant to end up but not the journey that got them there. D&D just put zero thought into the meat of the story and just gave lazy plot progression.
_"It's really just the writing"_
Yep. Everybody brought their a-game - the setpieces, the VFX, the music, the actors...
Everybody except the writers.
Fuck Dumb and Dumber
Lord of The Rings had better visuals effects + writing + chemistry though the characters. While this show trying to be like that but it failed for last 4 seasons.
My favorite setpieces were a dasani bottle and a starbucks cup.
More specifically, the pacing. I don't really think the ending for most characters was wrong, except maybe johns and brans, just how it got there was so rushed and full of holes..
The writers are the tacticians, the directors the strategists. They are far from blameless but they are dealing with constraints that limit their choices.
2 years later, I'm still baffled by just about every big decision made for this season. In 8 hours, they managed to butcher the plot, the narrative, the pace, every storyline and every major character.
Staggering.
Apart from Theon and Ser Jorah, everyone’s character arc got thrown out the window in like 4 episodes...
I can't believe how disappointed l still am 2 years later. So here l am watching this video. Again. 😂😭
It's pretty impressive when you think about it like that.
nah it had been coming since season 5, we just didnt notice cause of how in love with the show we were from season 1-4. The signs were all there
@@artaihnandez4980 Season 5 was fucking atrocious, I have no idea why it apparently gets a pass. S6 was almost as bad, it was carried by the last 2 episodes (which were pure fanservice/spectacle instead of good writing).
crazy how the most anticipated battle in the entire show was 1 episode long
And the 2 main villains didn’t die in a clever or thought out way, the night king just got stabbed and Cersei died by bricks... bran/Jon could’ve done some cool clever shit to kill the night king smh
@@user-du3yr8ld7i It’s so funny yet sad. They couldn’t decide who was the actual villain. Episode 3 was the night king. Episode 4 was Cersei. Then episode 5 was Daenerys. Only d&d could fuck this up and it shows the problem with the pacing was stupid.
It was technically only half the episode, the first half was just staring contest between random named characters
The way I pictured it before it came out was the battle of Winterfell would be lost, some major character losses like maybe Jon Snow. Then the remaining survivors getting pushed back south of the Neck, and into King's Landing where Cercei would realize she actually has no time for games and has to now cooperate with the remaining living forces mankind has to deal with the threat that's coming to eventually kill them, and we'd see the Great War unveil itself that way in the final episodes. So many infinite wasted opportunities... Hell, I could even accept Arya killing the Night King in a better deserved scenario like that.
It still hurts
What annoyed me most about the finale is that I felt NOTHING. I just did not care at all anymore at that point.
I was watching it on computer and on TV in the same time was documentary about IT and i was more interested in documentary.
They betrayed almost every single character. All of them just did a heel turn and did things that made no sense, Varys switches loyalties out of nowhere, Dany, I know she wanted to burn cities before and was talked out of it, but it still feels so unearned and unsatisfying. Up until now, she only killed bad men. She ALWAYS stood for the common folk. It makes NO SENSE. She won, and she just....gives up, after getting what she's been fighting for all this time?
If they had made her descent into tyranny more gradual, fine. But this came right the fuck outta nowhere.
Me too
Jon stabbing dany felt so fake.
And she died in like a minute without saying a word from a stab to the belly...so stupid
Same 🙄
After watching everyone get massacred and burnt to a crisp
Arya: "I know a killer when I see one"
Thanks Captain Obvious
Lool my exact thoughts
That line did make dany look so cool she’s even intimidating Arya? Bad bitch alert! I miss her 😢
Snarr/ this line was for Jon who is dumb and has an IQ of 0,0000000095467
"Did your lord of light tell you that? The people are burning, Arya, the city is rubble. Dany is a killer." - The Hound, probably.
Most of King's Landing saw she was a killer, too... just before she killed them.
The only other thing I would add to this review was the sheer disappointment of Jon Snow's character in season 8. One of the biggest reveals of the entire show was that he was the rightful king of the throne, and it really turned out to mean absolutely nothing.
Hey, yeah! What was the point? To shake Dany’s confidence that people might question her legitimacy to the throne?
It meant everything. He could have tried to take the throne from Dany or later Bran. Any other character would have. But Jon truly only cared about his family and saving lives.
When they cut that scene I yelled at the tv
@@BeczaBot But that wouldn’t matter? As we have seen, she loves to burn people that question her. She has the right to take the throne by conquest, that’s what Robert did to Danys farther.
@@delorean237 No offence but unless he secretly stabs her like d&d proposed, I don’t think he’s get the chance. Clearly Daenerys would win a rebellion war, the only other option I see is a marriage alliance.
"In my opinion, Breaking Bad is a perfect show"
You're goddamn right
The one show to rule them all
That damn fly episode though
Nah, Ozymandias is the best episode, everything fell apart so beautifully
Nah most overrated show ever, Ozark is in the same vein and much bettee
I see what you did there
Drogon had the best character development in the show.
He blamed the iron throne not Jon.
He thought the iron throne killed Daenerys. Jon tricked him perfectly with his plot armor.
That's actually the stupidest part of the episode. Drogon would have killed Jon. Grey Worm would have killed Jon. The Dothraki would have killed Jon. There is no reason for him to be alive.
@Jeff Brown he did actually. it's an animal. Takes orders from it's master. that doesn't negate character development
Yep. Drogon honestly is the best character. He was fun. He ate some kids, but it kept the population down.
@Jeff Brown We get it dude. You're so smart and edgy. I wish your dad was around to see you now
Tyrion: "Who has a better story than Bran the Broken?"
Fans: "You."
Literally ANYONE! Fricking podrick had a better story!
Also what's up with calling him Bran the Broken so much all the sudden? Let's start his reign out right by insulting him in front of everyone, by glueing a singularly unflattering nickname to him from the get go
@@brandonjeffi5976 Study past Kings, they always had their names like that.
Who has a better story than Bran? Well let’s see... Jon? Arya? Tyrion? Uh??? Dany???
@Kaliss he died and came back like come on
“I held the door for this?”
-Hodor 🤦🏽♂️
Poor Hodor
“Hodor ☹️”
- Hodor
George Martin created a great script and when that ran out it was obvious.
Yeah cause Martin didn’t bother to finish the books
@@jacklemm1518 hasn't finished the books*
"I think Bran should have died when they pushed him out of the window." Damn Chris getting savage.
It sounds harsh until you think about it; what did Bran actually do except waste screentime?
@@setton8 He didnt contribute to anything he was literally dead weight throughout the show. Sansa had more of an impact and I didnt even like her character. Brans journey was an aimless goal if he barely utilized his abilities. Despite being paralyzed he could have been used to compose more military strategies leading up to the battle. Even mentioning the fact that dany's army would die in a vision and find ways to lessen the carnage. Or maybe even conjure ideas along side Arya in some way to limit causalities. So much potiental to become the three-eyed raven was wasted time.
@@setton8That's true. When I go back and think of his storyline and how boring it was every time they turned towards what he was doing, it was pretty insignificant. He wasn't even around for some seasons. The only interesting moment was the Hodor moment which didn't seem to faze Bran one bit. Even Meera got disgusted with him. I'm sure she wouldn't support him as King.
I've been thinking the same thing for years.... I'm glad he said it
@@setton8 so true it hurts
Season 1: No plot armor. No one is safe.
Season 8: Named characters are fighting on the Frontline and STILL live.
🤦🏾♂️
Indeed...even Ser Davos, who is not a warrior - even by his own admission - and is missing fingers - withstood 100,000 wights and was on the frontline in the battle for K.L.
There was a point where Sur Dacis, Jaime and that blonde lady LOOKED like they were being stabbed against the wall
During the shortest long night Jamie, Brienne, Sam, Jon, Arya and probably more clearly sustained mortal injuries many times over but were saved by their ridiculous plot armor.
Remember the pre-battle scene in episode two where a group of major and minor characters sit in front of a fireplace, and Tyrion says „i think we might live“ and everyone laughs because the idea is so absurd. Well, out of those characters (of which several were at the front lines in the battle) NOT A SINGLE ONE died.
Unathletic fatty coward gets swarmed by wights but survives through the entire battle. Even flat earthers would call bullshit on that one.
"I binged 7 seasons in aboiut 2.5 weeks." I did all 1-8 seasons in 5 days so i didnt have to buy HBO... lol. That is one of my lifes biggest accomplishments.
Me too 😂😂
But what did it cost?
@@slein1055 free trial
I know it’s been months but are you okay?
@@jackierosas9593 I am! Just started reading the novels last week ;) cant finish those in 5 days tho,
I'm still pissed Dany's decent into madness didn't get a whole season and how they dumbed down Tyrion after they ran out of original material to base their own writing on. I'm not afraid for the last two books cause I know Martin will do things better even with most of the major plot points being the same.
@FORREST GUMP there was barely any enjoyment left by that point, I am afraid. By the way, did you ever finish that box of chocolate?
I dont think GRRM will complete the books anytime soon
@@piyushnagawat24 agreed. But that does also mean it won't suck more than the show. So there's a silver lining.. 😂
piyush nagawat Not to be macabre, but he kind of has to finish them soon. Unless he has elected a ghost writer, or has made a deal for immortality...
@@giabarrone7422thats what i am saying... I dont think he will ever finish them...
Bran : "I can never be lord of anything."
Tyrion : "What about being the King?"
Bran : "Where do I sign?"
Bran you just helped orchestrate the mass murder of thousands of your potential subjects.. wanna be king? With that kind of record who knows what you can do to the realm.
Prince Deluca nah bruh that shit was stupid come on. Bran was the worst character in the whole show, he just came out of nowhere knowing everything. Thats a relatable character if ive ever seen one lol
@@princedeluca27 if you are king you become a lord
@@princedeluca27 hey failson, the king of Westeros is called King of the Andals and the First Men, *Lord of the Seven kingdoms* and Protector of the Realm.
Quincy Navarre bran is definitely not the worst character in the entire show, he’s not just all knowing he went through multiple season arcs just to get to the point to TRAIN to become all knowing and even then his training by the three eyed raven was cut short. He also can’t blatantly see the future his ability is called “green seeing” it only gives you glimpses of the future and you have to to piece it together yourself. Bran being the three eyed raven surrounded by normal people makes him appear all knowing because he essentially can look back to any point in history but even that how does that make him a bad character? Bran is one of the more consistently well or at least decently written characters in the whole show I can understand you being upset over Tyrion losing his cleverness or Sansa being raped by Ramsey in season 5 or even fast tracking Daenerys going mad queen but saying bran is the worst character literally makes no sense just because of his ending that’s ridiculous
“When you do nothing on the group project, but still get an A+”
-Bran
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Kainoa Fonseca 😂 haha
Lol
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I'm fine with Dany becoming mad and being killed like her father, but what I'm not fine with is that how short it took for to become mad and also the war with the Night King should have been half a season at least to a full season long.
I know right. In episode 3 she was fighting for her county… episode 5 she wants to burn her country 😶
I know thats so fucken true I wish it was way longer 😫
Popular opinion. In my own case, I saw it coming early, like season 2ish. Got power hungry, demanding, self-righteous etc. I had NO doubt that she'd be a "bitch" before it all ended, but I know I'm in the minority on that. I never watched the show, and like Chris, binged the whole thing when it was done. Did it again about a year later, and just binged it for the 3rd time in January 2024....I haven't changed my mind, still saw it comin a mile away.
Books Bran is still pretty interesting. He's a cripple studying magic in an isolated land far to the north, being taught by a 150 year old tree dude and some elf-druids, is being guarded by an undead elk riding half zombie who may or may not be his uncle and has possibly unknowingly cannibalized one of his companions.
I agree, I don’t understand all the scoffs and condescending tone towards Bran as a character from the reviewer. Not liking him being king and feeling he’s undeserving is fine with me. But killing him off in the pilot, really??? I always think the “all knowing” and “memories” in epics are great, classic, and much needed archetypes. The Giver, pensieves in Harry Potter, etc. I agree the last half of season 8 was superrr rushed and incongruent. Very very disappointing, still an amazing series.
I agree, I think Brans story is fascinating, one of the most fascinating in the entire story
And I know GRRM will take him to get interesting places...
But the show absolutely butchered his story, it’s such a shame
@@thawk121 the thing is, in the show, Bran was literally pointless after Hodor dies. Like literally he did nothing, or to be more accurate, we never see him do anything with his powers.
Literally the last time we saw him do something important with his power was when he mind raped Hodor as a kid.
Legend says Drogon is still looking for the writers.
Hahaha hope he finds them😂😂
I hope he finds them
😂🤣😂🤣😂
I truly hope he is! They better run and hide!
And BBQ'd them
Who knew a f**king dragon would have the best character development 🤦♂️
Seeing him burn the iron throne was really powerful. I just wish they'd treated everyone with the same thoughtfulness and reverence.
It should have become the king
i like the shot of dany walking forward while drogons wings unfold behind her :')
@@xaixn. truly epic! Honestly they were starting to show her human side a bit, which made me feel that they should have spent atleast 6 more episodes under her rule and let her "break the wheel" first.
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This show was like when you eat something really delicious and then the last bite you find a hair in it.
you mean bug. a hair would have been welcome.
More like a turd
A pube
It's called Carilie 🙄 When they mix dat with my nice roti 😒
very good analogy
Naming Bran the KIng after all the show went through would've been like writing the last episode of Breaking Bad with Skyler killing both Walter and Jesse. And then marries Huell.
THAT is how bad fans reacted.
I think Bran becoming king was always the plan from GRRM but the writers didn't know how to do it and make sense out of it
If you, watching the season after a marathon, felt dissappointed by Season 8 and the finale, imagine how us long term fans of the series felt. It is unfathomable.
omg you poor soul
Yes. Thank you.
Cristián Paris season 8 was like if you met someone hot, banged em for a few hours happily but got tired and rushed it to finish bc you wanted it to be over with out of nowhere
Watched it in a month this ending ruined the show for me. I feel bad for you.
I'm not a fan I guess ??? But yeh I watched since the beginning 8 years and in the end my favorite character just die lololololol
Then that chick from the iron islands is like, I pledged to danarys , then shows up after the war is over
cue Seinfeld bassline
throws up her hands and says "whatever"
"We kinda forgot that Yara was there"
@@juliansenfr lol
Julian Sen 😂😂
Chris discussing how he thought Arya’s abilities could’ve been used made me wish he was a writer on the show. That would’ve made soooo much sense!
honestly arya (the world class assassinator) was WASTED!! 😭
Remember the snapped neck fam. Don't ever forget.
Is it just me or am I the only one who saw Arya with the face of a white walker just before she attacked the night king?
@@jerrymitchell77it’s just you
Season 8 tainted all of GoT. I can't rewatch it.
Same. Worst thing about it for me. Imagine all the watch time of the show that would have happened in the future around the world...all wiped out. They truly buried it. Buried it in the past.
same
Season 7 was pretty much as bad. Just not as disappointing because it wasn't the final one.
@@nekitamol1k242 agree
"Season 8 tainted all of GoT. I can't rewatch it."
It is absolutely amazing how many people say that. That's the way I MYSELF feel, but I really didn't expect so many other people to feel that way too.
I watched Seasons 1 - 4 over and over again. I loved Season 6.
But Seasons 7 & 8? I just don't feel like watching them again. And I don't feel like watching the earlier seasons again either. Not even Season 6 which I have not seen anywhere near as many times as Seasons 1 - 4.
The way we CAN still enjoy the show is by watching reactors. When they reach Seasons 3 and 4, their feelings about the show are similar to what ours were when we first watched those Seasons.
George RR Martin said it should have been 12 seasons
The question is why! Why wasn’t it 12 seasons? Why did they want to end the show so quickly? Why?!
Seeing it this way, they’d earn more money along the way. But also, and more importantly, everything would’ve gotten more time to develop, every character, every arc, every little mystery. That way the ending would feel more earned. And it’d not be this rushed mess!
I’m just saddened beyond belief. I just want to forget about this show, at least the ending, and move on.
@@Niom_Music Apparently D&D were hired to go work on the next Star Wars. That's why they rushed the last season of GoT instead of extending it like they should have.
13 even
Every actor on that show would swallow the whole budget if it got to season 9..
@@justmonika2345
It all makes perfect sense now..... It's a shame.
Dragon went East
John went North
Arya went West
The show went South
The END.
Well said good sir 👏👏👏
😂😂
Perfect comment
The perfect summary. 😆
You're a hell of a poet, sir.
The Night King wasn't an afterthought. He was the true threat looming in the background, Biding his time until he could move south. They were saving him to become the all encompassing threat for the end of The series. But D&D wanted to "subvert our expectations" and got rid of him in an instant because they wanted the show to be done and to have all the credit for the show.
He was the true villain, the real final boss, the embodiment of death itself. And they Snoked him.
You're entirely right. Yes the battle for the throne is a big deal. But the saga is not called Game of Thrones, it's called the Song of Ice and Fire. The threat is the Others. It's supposed to be about everyone getting together to fight the true threat, and that the Iron Throne is not the most important thing.
@@MJAce85but brainlets will still tell you “Durr hurt but the show is called game of thrones” and then justify the opposite point you just made. Lol
Everyone in this comment section could have wrote a better ending
Goo goo ga ga I'm a baby
@@SophieMe0ws still better
Yeah...no
Even our throwaway theories and ideas would’ve been better
I agree...
"I think Bran should've died in the pilot" LOOOOOOOOOOOL
You can literally say that about any character...
@@tictac3147 Not as much as you can say that about Bran, as he's literally THE most useless character in the entire show. Everyone else has arcs that actually matter (if not to the main plot, than to the sub ones) that contribute at least *something* to the show, even the downright sinister guys like Ramsay and Euron. But NOTHING Bran does matters, contributes to the show, or is even remotely interesting, and him being the Three-Eyed Raven serves zero purpose other than being a cheap cop-out to end the Night King in the stupidest way possible. His character arc is boring. His character development is boring. His character is boring. He's about as interesting and useful as Rickon, only Rickon died.
You can't kill Bran! WHO has a "better story" than Bran?
な6IXLXRD i was rooting for the night king the whole time lol
I really wish he would have ended up being the Night King. It would have made his character so much better.
let this SINK IN....
we watched tyrion move chairs insted of ppl reacting to jon killing dany.
that's true...we didnt see what happened after he killed her....how was it??? how did he announced it to the others...how the fuck Grey Worm didn't kill him on the spot lol??!
Literally this. ^^^^
they also didn't show jon telling the his true identity to sansa and arya also didn't show how arya got to the night king
I thought the EXACT same thing while I was watching it! Spent about 10 years on that scene but neglect character development the whole season
They did not even put something like " 1 week later"... Like how are we supposed to know how much time has passed from Jon killing Daenerys? What happened during that time? How did people react to the murder? RUSHED RUSHED RUSHED
"I'm affraid to get invested in a show, and then it gets cancelled or... It ends poorly." *wink*wink*
Should’ve been 10 seasons, 10 episodes. D&D should’ve just given it to someone else. It gets me depressed thinking of what could’ve been
I love how Dothraki "died" in episode 3, came back in episode 5 and then dissapear like a ghost army from LoTR.
hahahahahahah
Yhup
Never go full ghost army, unless you are in the lotr
Karakuioshi *some Dothraki didn't die*
@bliztix Yeah, I know: *We lost half.* xD
Bran this season: I don't want to be the lord of Winterfell
Also Bran : Never mind, I agree to be King.
This is some oscar worthy writing D&D
Darth FatCow I agree, but to be fair, he knew he had to become king. He told people what they needed to hear
"I will not be queen of the ashes"
only wish this season had been done by Monty Python...would have made more sense
@Madalin Grama you must of watched a different tv show than me. He literally said that was why he was there in the dragon pit was to accept being king. Which means he knew he would become king even before they decided it. WHICH MEANS everything he has done since becoming the three eyed raven was for him to become king. He put thoughts into peoples minds and send countless lives to die just so all things would line up to him being king. Talk about a sick fuck lol
Lord of Winterfell and Lord of the Seven Kingdoms are completely different things.
The definition of the shocked pikachu face is .. the reaction everyone had when bran was crowned 😂
S7 Bran: I can never be a Lord of Winterfell because I’m the Three-Eyed Raven
S8 Finale Bran: I was always meant to be King
Everyone: wait I thought you were supposed to be good?
If Bran was a type of food he would be gluten-free, sugar-free, plain oatmeal.
@@elancrew9894 well his name is "bran". Oat-bran...
Emilia Clarke gave 110% into her performance this season... and this season didn’t deserve it
true dat ... she was incredible and deserved a better writing
All the Actors deserved better writing for their characters. Especially Post Season 5-6. So many quality entertaining characters just kind of shuffled off to the side because DnD Want to get onto Star Wars and probably will shit the bed on that too. Varys and Baelish should've had better deaths, Melisandre's end should've been something better than literally walking off and falling down. Why did Jaime even exist if that was his arc?
She was the martyr by D and D's Worst Writing..Damn It.
I still think 110% of basic acting skill is still basic acting skill
I hope she continues to have a great career in spite of those fuckers D&D. She seems like such a genuinely nice person.
A visual masterpiece with a script written in crayon.
💯
Nicholas Schafer that's the best summarise I've seen for this show.
Awesome
Accurate
someone explain to me what was so bad with the script?
Season 8. The Long Night was so dark. You really could not see anything. Bran had the flattest affect. Knowing the future went no where. The effects were fantastic. The sword fights were great. One season the fighting got really choppy. You never saw the hits land and it was fast images. Overall I thought the effects and the show was amazing.
I'm sad about what they did to Dany. She was my favorite character. They ruined GOT, man. It's not even enjoyable going back to watch it again. Knowing the shitty ending that's coming.
Yeah imagine what i felt. Watched the whole thing in 3 weeks. And in one instant this pure hearted woman just turns into dragon-hitler
I kinda wish the night king won at winterfell
Knew it was over when he died.
That's exactly what I thought, the Knight King story should have been a series of three episodes or more where he wins each battle and the North has to go south to resupply its armies. We should have seen how the Knight King brings with him the harsh cold winter where babies die of cold, and water freezes that it will not melt easily. So many things that they could've done but they simply ruined it.
311kratos don’t forget the giant ice spiders as big as hounds! (Not the hound)
who is knight king
@@aragorn4884 Brienne of Tarth is the knight king, because she was made king by a knight (Jamie Lannister).
It's taken George RR Martin 25 years to write the story (still writing) and it took 90 minutes for Dan/Dave to destroy it.
Lisa S I feel like that’s how it works for a lot of things. How long did it take earth to be what it is now? A meteor could literally destroy it in an instance.
@@user-vp5xf6fm5p yeah but the difference in those scenarios is choice -- One is the story of the nature of the universe by the universe itself, and the other is a story written by humans. We don't get to decide how to write the apocalypse, at least not if it comes in the form of a meteor or natural disaster. I'd rather be shit on by some dumb writers than by God tho, if it means that humanity is not destroyed. Also the stakes are a bit higher when we are talking about the fate of our planet vs the fate of a TV show.
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to be precise, they took about 2 years to film the entire series. But ya, they destroy it
Not dave and dan. ITS DUMB AND DUMBER
Jaimie's arc bugged me. They built it for seven seasons from this kinda despicable dude, dragging him through the mud, literally, to eventually becoming this kind of an nice good guy, culminating with him leaving Cercei and honoring his word to fight with the North. But then two episodes later he just peaces out and goes back to Cercei...
I felt like my investment, part of my life and my love for these characters was just torn from me. I felt robbed and actually cried, I can barely explain it.
Grey Worm to Tyrion "You are not allowed to speak"
Tyrion: "Speaks anyway gives an epic speech and proceeds to elect Bran king."
Grey Worm was a dumb bastard on this episode. QI -10 for some reason.
Oh, the writing, that's the reason.
+ 1 couldn't say it better
RIGHT! The the new 'King' pardons him (kind of) then Grey Worm says,"you can't do that"..King says "Yes I can, I'm the King"..! Hilarious
Grey Worm want to Jon killed but allowed him to take the Black and didn't stay to make sure Jon stays at Castle Black forever. Jon says: "Fuck ya'll! Fuck the Night's Watch I'm going North with the Wildlings.
Wish the Leaks were true. At least we would have gotten Jon vs Grey Worm. All their intense angry stare at each other are for nothing. Fucking D&D's subverting expectation.
You messed up the format. Tyrion did that, but didn’t say that. Don’t use quotation marks.
Dear Raid: Shadow Legends,
No matter how many times you plaster yourself over my favorite youtuber’s videos I will never play your game.
So you want to remove a source of income for your favorite UA-camrs? Why did you make this comment again?
@@Powd3r81 Maybe to let everyone know that the game is utter garbage.
Ban that’s such a big strawman fallacy
@@davidgrimaldo2861 ? Dude go get ur GED. You forgot to do that
Ban Wow, I’m totally gonna need some ice for that burn.
Dude. This was more than a year ago, I just rewatched it. This season is so painfully bad compared to all the others. Idk why I put myself through the pain again.
My feeling surrounding Arya’s journey is that she rejected becoming a “faceless man”. The faceless men were merely assassins that had built up a very convincing religious justification for being hired murderers. Arya was smart enough to see it for what it was, and rejected their order. When she rejected their order, she also rejected their way of killing, she wanted those she killed to know who she was, not hide behind another’s face. Arya would never have been able to kill Bran and wear his face, that would have gone against everything in her character, that was never an option. Also, the Night King would have known it wasn’t Bran, Bran was marked by the Night King and that’s how he was able to track Bran. If it had been Arya, the Night King would have known instantly. Also, killing Bran was the Night King’s objective. If Arya had killed Bran, they would have done their enemy’s work for him...
I feel like they planned on Jamie killing Cersei originally, but when everyone figured that out, they changed their mind
Yeah, when you have a lot of fan theories and there's only a tiny space left for you to work on....
David Minor eXpeCtAtiOnS SuBvErTeD!
The only way this would've happened is if Cersei destroyed King's Landing.
@Aron Maddocks Thats exactly what happened though
I thought Aria will kill Jamie and then kills Cersei as Jamie - also the prophecy would've been fullfilled, that Cersei will be killed by her brother.
Episode 5 - the whole keep was buried under rocks, there was no way to escape
Episode 6 - ow, they were standing in a wrong place. A little bit to the right and these 3 or 4 rocks wouldn't have killed them.
they could of hid in the mouth of the dragon skull and been perfectly fine lol
Don't know why but I read the Episode 6 line in Korg's voice from Ragnarok lol
I think it would’ve been a lot better and much more interesting if Cersei and Jaime leave and go to Essos, Jaime dies on the boat on the way there but Cersei carries on, her baby still being alive along with her means there’s still one more Lannister out there
Ep 5 Arya gets on horse to gtfo.
Ep 6 Arya still there.
I thought same. If Cersei had been sitting on the throne she’d have been ok
When bran worged into hodor and controlled him I thought he would become a powerful mind-controller but he literally is the most helpless and useless character. Lots of wasted potential.
So Bran and Arya battle through 8 years of strife, at the end of which, they have acquired amazing powers... and they don't use their powers... at all. Not once.
Try to imagine if Luke had not used his lightsaber in Return of the Jedi.
@Wutup5566 2 That would have made sense.
Whoever was ok with this season is also fine with getting only half of their ordered Pizzas plus the toppings are wrong and still give a tip.
And the cheese is contrived. The green peppers don't make sense. The onions are uninteresting. The crust looks great, but it's way too short, and has very little substance.
That's true, that's how I am lol
The Mad King ☑️
The Mad Queen ☑️
The Mad Fans ☑️
All because of the Mad Writers. ☑️
E- Trayde The writers make it bad, the fans make it unbearable
Mad Comments
If only Thanos' snap could make the writing good and wipe out the mentally unstable fandom
So on point the TERRIBLE WRITERS
The Dumb Writers
What went wrong is....
Show had another season worth of material and compressed in 2-4 episodes.
Ramin is the one true king of Westeros, the only player that throughout the entire show never made a mistake. Every piece is beautiful.
This, ideas weren't bad but the execution sucked because they rushed everything
I think it could've had 2 more seasons easily if JRRM had finished the series, possibly more if its true that the next two books will be 1000+ pages each. For example season 3 and 4 was just one books worth, A Storm of Swords.
The problem is that it felt rushed in terms of this should have more seasons just as George R. R. Martin have said in his interview and it also felt like it went on forever in each episode. Episode 1 and 3 were the only episodes it felt like it didn't drag. The writers knew the bullet points Martin have laid out for them but doesn't know how to get from one point to another. However, they need to make the episodes longer to make the 6 episodes much more intriguing to the fans. So, instead of thinking how they will get from point A to point B, they dragged each scene. Like it felt like the Hobbit in terms of how many crane shots of just them walking. The way the characters even speak or act, it felt like they were dragging their feet. They still performed well, but I can see how the directors and writers were trying so hard to make a scene longer than it should be.
Even the routes they took for execution were meh at best and the dialogue in general has perished.
In lord of the rings the writers didn’t try to trick you, we all kind of knew Aregon was going to become king.
Arya Not only trained for face changing stuff but she had flying lessons off screen... Bet Night King didn't see that.
HBO was willing to pay for a 10 episode season but the writers said they could do it in 6! What a mistake!
They should just do an extra season to fix everything at this point lol
It's because they don't want to do it anymore. They want to get it over with as soon as possible so they can move on to other projects.
@Sally Vee Can you explain why D&D were in charge for this and who tf they are and why they didnt give a fuck about the show anymore?
They need to resurrect the dragon queen and she needs to burn the world down
Is there any evidence for this? I've not seen anything official to say that HBO wanted more episodes.
Lords of the 7 kingdoms died laughing when Sam tried to bring democracy to Westeros
I mean they have a right to laugh. Look at our voting system. There are people who get to pick which cannidate they want with Electoral College. Regardless of popular vote by it's people. So cannidates focus on battleground states because they already know how people vote in certain states. Also not everyone votes, and the President isn't always qualified. Usually it is the better salesman, and they are still puppets to big companies because they get money from them, in order to run. Comercials and Publicity matter the most to getting the idiots votes. I see person on screen, so I must vote for them. Durr Durr. I hate both sides. But it is the only pile of shit we get with uninformed voters.
@@user-qn7ty8ig7s I'd take democracy ANY day of the week over King Joffrey.
And then five seconds later it turns into a Democracy.
Whoops.
@@user-qn7ty8ig7s so you dont understand the electoral college? You think popular vote is the way?? You're misinformed.
99% of voters are not informed enough to vote. Thus democracy is flawed. You should need to take IQ tests, EQ tests, economic tests, geographic tests, biology tests, and many other tests to be eligible to vote. Voting should NOT be a right, just like flying a plane isn't a right.
Them using the "her dad was crazy" as the sole reason for the 180 in her character was the laziest thing in the whole show. You can't even say it's because of her hate for cersei. She spends hours killing the citizens and never even specifically goes after her , she actually almost got away if she didn't get stuck in the dungeon.
At least they got theon greyjoy right. He has the most complete character arc with a great payoff at the end.
I would've rather seen him kill the Night King than Arya...at least it would've given some meaning to everything he'd gone through.
@@chaburchak i think arya killing thr night king is okay... But only after NK kills bran at the weir tree. It would be more poetic for bran instead of the shit ending we got.
@@hartdr8074 nah Arya got way to many kills it felt unrealistic. Also how was she able to fly from the sky and beat the night king without being instantly stabbed I dont know
@Emperor Pepe Flavius Memus yah yourr right...
ohh please, have you forgotten about the "having no balls is my superpower" moment? it's just ridiculous
Tyrion :You'll make a great king
Bran:Shit n**** that's all you had to say!
Lol
Lmfaooooooo this is the best one
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Bran the master mind planned the whole thing. chaos is a handicap ramp
Chaos is an escalator
nice
Do you know what happened to the children of the forest?
So many comment stealing going on
Rofl
GRR Martin: Tyrian would never put people in the crypt while an army of the dead invade, thats way too stupid, i cant do it.
D&D: Its a bit stupid for Tyrian to hide in a crypt while an army of the dead invade, but it would be a cool scene, lets do it!
This finale season really felt like it was George R.R Martin’s cliff notes of what he was planning for his final book and the show runners just ran with it and adapted what they read directly and changed what they felt like changing. Which would be fine with a complete season of character development and smart calculated plotting but, LITERALLY taking all that out and making the cliff notes as scenes on their own, back to back, is hardly what I think Martin had in mind!
If you read his books Martin has a large and vivid imagination where everything big that happens and what we see is carefully considered. The Red Wedding for example, out of no where would have been a terrible choice to include in the story if the circumstance wheren’t set up! Everyone would ask “but WHY!? Why are my favorite characters gone?!”
Now everyone in the final season is asking why?! Why does Jamie just leave Brien? Why did Danny not consider the Iron Fleet? Why does Danny kill everyone in Kings Lansing? And why does Bran of all people become king? If Aria’s destiny was to kill the Night King and her journey though out the series is learning the sword and become a faceless man, then why didn’t that play into her destiny? The Dagger she has barely used is the killing weapon?
We see writers all the time write contrived circumstances that don’t make much sense to get to cool moments in Hollywood movies. This can be forgiven once or twice on small moments if the rest of the movie is enjoyable enough to distract from it all. Yet, a whole movie that’s full of those moments falls apart easily and if you think that happening in 2 hours of a movie is bad then imagine the frustration of a full 8+ hour season of television!
Having Danny just “forget” about the Iron Fleet because you wanted to have a shocking moment where one of her dragons gets shot down is not only negligent but down right insulting to not only the intelligence of your audience but to George R. R Martin and this world he has created. This show and this story worked because of the setups and pay offs that made the Song of Ice and Fire stand out from not only television but the fantasy genre as a whole. I almost expect this level of incompetence in a lot of by the number Fantasy flicks or big dumb blockbusters but this is Game of Thrones! This is not the show I signed up for to watch!
On a most basic level as a writer your supposed to tell a story and for this narrative it is to honor what you’ve set out to accomplish in the first place. Failing to do that is failing to simply do your job as a writer.
Peter Balish: The most manipulative & deceptive player in Game of Thrones
Bran (3 eyed raven): Hold my Beer
Ham Cheese hold my wheelchair
I bet that bastard can walk, too....
Petyr Baelish
He was the first scapegoat of Dumb&Dumber, they had to get rid of him.
If you go by the books Varys manipulation go so much deeper than Petyr, and Varys while sometime out maneuvered by Petyr he always know what he is doing, while Petyr have no clue what Varys is really doing.
It didn't need a few more episodes, it needed a few more seasons, like HBO offered them.
i agree. there should have been more episodes. still, d&d can't write! there are so many examples. no common sense. so many contradictions that they seem to not even be aware of it.
@@tatyanamelnikoff9578 as soon as they where out of source material they rushed it. And instead of 100 episodes (10 seasons with 10 episodes) they gave us 73. However, GRRM is partly to blame as well because he's been making other books and doing other things instead of completing ASoFaI series.
can u say DISNEY MONEY ON LINE 1....HBO money will make u rich but DISNEY will make u a GOD
hbo could have hired new writers. hbo has an unlimited budget. they knew from day 1, d&d would only work on ~7 seasons.
Very much agreed. Expand season 6-8 into 6-10 season and everything will fall into place.
It wasn't just the direction that plot moved, did you also note how the dialog stopped including poetic and thoughtful lines and how Varys and Tyrion's wit and intelligence dropped from magnficant to average dunderhead
That was George RR Martin's cleverness and wit, dumb and dumber don't have that talent.
The show was amazing for four seasons. Then it had flashes of brilliance in seasons 5 6 and 7 and then sucked all of season 8. Worst finale ever.
Once the books ran out, the writers didn't know how to handle things... especially Tyrion
Even before
They really didn't know what to do with Littlefinger. That why they killed him in a ridiculous storyline
Tyrian, varys, littlefinger, euron, literally every big player they ruined.
Also Stannis, Barristan Selmy, the Dorne plot, Renly and Loras tbh, Magaery and Cersei (blowing up the Sept never should've happened), Jon to some degree, Daenerys to a larger degree, Arya's faceless men training was messed up. Also the crucial omission of Lady Stoneheart and ESPECIALLY Young Griff/fAegon really fucked up the whole plot which is why it was a mess to complete. The show would have been so much better if they faithfully adapted to the very end of Dance with Dragons and then actually consulted GRRM to help with the conclusion.
It was like the stupid kid at school not being allowed to copy from the smart kid anymore.
HATED the way they dumbed Dany down 😩😞 she FORGOT about the iron fleet?! I think Dumb & Dumber forgot, not her
She deserved better
Yes Miranda
Season 4 Entered Guy with Superangered by 8th. 8th will be my nightmare.
@Colin lol no the writers said she literally forgot it, its stupid
Lol Prince Deluca, what a fucking simpleton you are. Only people with tiny minds enjoy dogshit writing and think they’re smarter than everyone else who KNOW its bad because they don’t have terrible taste in TV.
Unless you’re being sarcastic. In that case, I apologize.
Prince Deluca what kind of coke do you take?
The twists and shocks were never random in the first 5 seasons. Ned dying at the end of season 1 was a shock mainly because he was a main character but he lost a game of intrigue and it was a consequence of Joffrey's crazed cruel personality that he would have killed Ned. Most of the shocks are that main characters we've been watching don't wear plot armour like they do in most shows and they live in a violent and unpredictable world. Towards seasons 6-8 they started becoming random surprises for the sake of it without any motivations that make sense.
I busted out laughing when you said “bran should have died in the pilot” 😂😂😂😂
Arya: What is west beyond Westeros?
HBO: Westworld Season 3
Another probable HBO fuck up...
@@SCharlesDennicon What was the other one?
That would be a cool spin off. I would love an Aria show, West of Westeros. That could be cool.
@@codekhalil6437 game of thrones...?
@@codekhalil6437 Westworld season 2...
"Dany kind of forgot about the Iron Fleet"... THIS is the brilliant mind that co-wrote the best season of a show in TV history!
You take that quote out of context because its pasted into a lol meme youtube video. She had a moment where she let her guard down while she flew overhead with her children, is what he meant. Not that she entirely forgot about the whole fleet. You forget Jaime the best knight evar gets wrecked by the young wolf when he chases people into the whispering woods near Riverun.
@@Ryan.A. She didn't see an entire fleet (even though her visibility of them would be the far superior to her allies ad her enemies)Then the dragon gets hit and suddenly thee fleet appears out of nowhere dozens of ships, and everyone notices them. It's not like they didn't know they existed.
@@Ryan.A. Mate, just strategically, it's impossible to not see a thousand ships from a high vantage point of a dragon's back... It was their incredibly retarded excuse for what was just a cheap shocker when one of her dragons gets killed, cheapened even further because ultimately it didn't even matter, she torched King's Landing with one of them just as easily. Jaime gets captured when his army gets trampled by the Young Wolf, because he was acting on false information (remember when Rob hid his war map from the Lannister scout and spoonfed him what to report back before releasing him?) In the end, when you look at it, Jaime's capture had an immeasurably greater effect on the story overall (as it sets Rob's downfall and Jaime's redemption in motion); this was just... pointless. And why do you think there's so many memes out there? Because fans justifiably feel cheated out of what could've been a marvelous conclusion to the best TV show in history. There's random people on the internet, amateurish writers who manage to get into GRRM's head just enough to write a more believable season 8 (even given the short time span of 6 episodes) than what these two Dumb&Dumber schmucks gave us.
@@markoljkrasus2888 They could've even explained it away with Drogon being fat, Rhaegal obscuring the view and Derpnerys being busy looking at birds and rubbing herself on Drogon's scaly back (dragonscales really get the G-spot) but they cba to even come up with a decent excuse for their bad writing.
Imagine if they had developed Euron like his book counterpart and he has the dragon horn and is using blood magic during that ambush. He could of created a fog around Dragonstone with the warlocks (wtf happened to them) help then as Dany and her dragons almost land that's when the iron fleet fires a volley at Rhaegal or hell even have Euron try to control Rhaegal or even better have him summon a kraken to grab Rhaegal out of the sky and drag him underwater while Eurons fleet fire at him. How brutal would that be see?
the feast after the long night was what set the tone in writing for the season. there were plenty of scenes in that feast where I was left scratching my head. Like everyone ignoring tormund or acting mad or annoyed at him even though he risked his life for the fellow soldiers.
My BF insisted on me watching this show. I finally did, 2020. I was invested on it, the episodes made me want to watch the next one. The last season and the last episode just made me completely forget how good it was.
Everyone: Bran King of the 7 Kingdoms!
Sansa: Reeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!
Bran: Fine 6 Kingdoms
Bitches be tripping.
Yea the fact that no one even argued with her felt so wrong. Seems like they just wanted to boost Sophie's ego from having to play a character that was like a permanent victim for most of the show. It's also pretty funny how the North got everything they wanted while everyone else gets shafted and turned into their underlings basically. Bran Stark becomes King of every Westeros house except of the North, Sansa gets the North, John gets to go back to the Wall, where he wanted to be in the first place. It's like a fairy tale ending for the Starks when I expecting way more Tragedy.
@@nokturnallex2160 yeah this definitely felt like fan service to please all the "slay queen" people. You take away 1 powerful woman in Dany, you can't have the other one bow too. When realistically, you either keep all the kingdoms together or leave them broken into 7 seperate kingdoms.
That one is miiiiiine.
Nokturnal Lex tbf the north did win the war
The dragon knew Bran had his own chair :D
Chris hit the nail on the head. Characters' choices toward the end lacked proper setup and thus felt unearned. It's so painfully clear that the writers worked backward for the final 13 episodes, writing based on plot points rather than character. My heart is still broken, and it will probably always be broken. I try and remember that I loved the show for so long, and that for many years it was one of the greatest shows of all time.
I think a big problem i had with the last couple of seasons was how the world felt empty. In the earlier seasons we had so many plot lines in all ends of Westeros and it always felt fresh but then it was just scenes in Winterfell and scenes in Kings Landing back and forth.
Season 7 episode 7--Bran: *Jon is the real heir, we must tell him*
Series Finale--Bran: *Of course I'll be king. Why do you think I came.* as he flips Jon off and banishes him to the wall.
It’s so dumb I mean the unsullied leave and I’m sure those Mongolian horsemen are dumbasses .
Bran could’ve lied and let Jon go
Well Bran kina forgot what he said earlier.
Also he forgot that he said that he cant be a lord since he is the 3eyedraven.
If you consider that this was all a plan by Bran to get the throne, it all makes sense. He was the main villain.
Sean Keefe That's the problem with how GoT ended. I don't want to consider anything. I wanted to see it. Regardless, there's no way peace will last in Westeros. The other lords will be pissed the Starks rule everything, and Yara and the new Dornish Prince might become allies in their attempt to become independent. Only thing Bran has going for him is he can see shit.
@@1945joshuaruiz roflmao... this.
jamie lannister is ''KINGSLAYER'' and ''kingcrippler''
WHAT A LEGEND!
Kingslayer, had sex with kings wife, king's father, king's father, queen's love affair and kingscrippler
"King'swifelayer"
BILLY Arya joins vinland saga lol
Queen’s-layer
Jon is the Queenslayer.
I am fine with the destiny of Dany. Because throughout the show especially after she took over Meereen, I started to question whether or not she was a good person. She often jumped to violence. And commanded to be "worshipped' for a lack of a better word. It was like a false freedom she promised. I was anticipating her going evil throughout the show.
yes because what is freedom if she burns people for not bending the knee
dumb
The UA-cam algorithm just decided to rip up the wound the final season cut into me
CGI: Great
Acting: Great
Music: Great
Writing: .......
nahh acting was great. lena heady, nikolaj coaster-waldu, emelia clarke, etc are all great
Also cinematography: Excellent
The word you're looking is lazy
Writing: ...garbage/nonexistent
So gray worm is literally slaughtering anyone in the street that opposes Dany but keeps Jon alive as A prisoner?
Jon would fuck him up lol
Grey Worm was killing the Lannister soldiers only. Even the actor confirmed it.
No. That is because they were loyal to Cersei. Jon wasn't loyal to Cersei, Jon had enough of the slaughter. Not only that, but killing someone of Jon's stature would not end well for the unsullied.
The northern army and the Night King Slayer were literally all there. They couldn't just kill Jon without a war.
1 AM GROOT but he literally killed his queen, that all the unsullied and dothraki loved and followed everywhere, I doubt they wouldn’t kill Jon
You’re ever so accurate description of Brant 😂
I love that the first recommended video is your review for Rise of Skywalker xD
Me: someone who’s read the books and watched the show since it’s premiere.
Chris: Binged the entire show 2 weeks before the finale.
Ending reaction: Exactly the same. Bad writing is bad writing and rushed is rushed. That’s it.
Honestly you don't have to read source material to see shitty writing at hand. Even the sheep-herded casual audience could tell this season was utter garbage.
FrankySaint you’re a fucking sheep. Baaaahh bitch, bahhhh
i BINGED 3 WEEKS AGO AND iM PISSED how it ended.. I've been tuning in and out of first season before but never got hooked until now.
I thought it came full circle and was a good end. Bran. I’m still conflicted though but not hating it. I just started watching like 3 years ago.
when they had the books to go off of the writing was good because .... GRRM after with just a guide line it got rushed and suffered poor writing but we did get great scenes and episodes it really in a nutshell in season 7 and 8 became to rushed like D and D went we gots to wrap this up so we can do star wars so lets cram everything in to 6 episodes yeah its crap but STAR WARS .... but I liked it and now really want GRRM to finish the damn books
Jon: *kills Dany, her army's khaleesi and reason why they're free*
Dothraki & Unsullied: *let's imprison him and wait for Westerosi justice even though we don't know or understand Westerosi justice!*
The Unsullied were really the ruling faction. The Dothraki know not to fuck with them (discussed in books). I think grey worm understood the ramifications of killing jon. I lot of armies (North, Vale, possibly more) would've come down hard on them. That's why jon was kept alive as a prisoner.
And they committed genocide too. I can't understand this bullshit.
I know right. Also what's up with Drogon!
Absolutely! Considering the parameters of the show, Greyworm would have killed Jon 2 seconds after he heard about Dany’s death.
Well in most games, spearmen do beat cavalry units... So its a no brainer that unsullied > dothraki...
“in my opinion breaking bad is a perfect show”
That’s not an opinion, it’s a fact
Two years on I'm still pissed. As Chris says, S8 was well done in every aspect except the writing. It has become extremely clear that the failure of S8 was solely due to Dave and Dan. They were tired of GOT and eager to move on, and because of that they screwed everyone. Not just the fans but the crew and actors, those 100s of people who took pride in making such a unique show that was the pinnacle of television. The looks and words of the actors in interviews or at the table reads. HBOs repeated requests to extend the show or at least the season. Even GRRM's writing schedule for WoW was likely affected by this as fans are now eager to see him do it differently, better--and since D&D did get the overall story arc from him, he may be afraid he can't do it any better (I'm thinking of Bran here, but this may apply to all the main characters).
D&D lost their oomph, their passion and simply wanted it over, but weren't willing to leave what had been their baby in the hands of others. So they chose to screw over those who gave a damn.
Honestly even outside of the writing this season still has its issues like bad editing, a complete lack of continuity between episodes and beverages just being left in the shot multiple times. The production was just rushing to the conclusion with no thought about quality control.