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My Vango Banshee 200 is brilliant. Fits me and my backpack. I wouldn't like to share it with my 15 year old son though now he's almost as tall as me. He also snores occasionally 😁
I tend to go for 2-3 man tents. You get a bit more head room, not as cramped, and nicer if you are stuck in the tent for a few days due to bad weather.
You make very good points. I usually don’t hang out in the tent much so I’m usually bringing the minimum. Yes, some long winter nights but I’m just lying down the whole time no matter how big the tent.
When my wife and I did a trip that involved several months in the tent we went for a premium and fairly light 4 person tent, in that instance a Big Agnes Copper Spur. We had quite a bit of stuff with us (travelling by bike) and it was great having so much room. I think when I start some solo camping though I will back to a 1 person tent.
I went from a Wild Country Zepheros compact 1 to a Terra Nova Pioneer compact 2. Weighs 350g more and has the same pack size. Only used the Pioneer once but it's like a palace compared to the Zepheros. I can also sit up in the Pioneer. Will still use both depending on the situation.
I have my tents sorted now 👌 . Vern 1 for bad weather and winter , durston xmid 1 for long multiday treks in decent weather . Loads of room and I can sit up in them :-) . The lighter the tent you have as well means you can take more beer with you on longer treks 😂
Tents are (or certainly should be) a very personal choice. At 70, just over 6ft and about 17 stone, I use a Terra Nova Pioneer 2, with the new 'Compact' poles, which is really a 1.5 person tent. It suits me perfectly as I have plenty of space for a long/wide pad and bag, can sit up inside and get dressed or kneel to pee in the night and can still get all my bits and pieces in if I need to when the weather is bad (though I usually leave the sac in the vestibule).
Deffo a 1-man for limitless pitching options and warmth, but a 2-man tent for comfort and bad weather … my current favourite shelter is a Vango Nexus UL F10 (2-man) tent, which I took with me on my last camp up on Derwent Edge, and I even managed to squeeze it into my favourite spot up there - just, much to my surprise! 😁
Hi Paul, been watching your videos for years now, just wanted to say I love what you’re doing with the channel these last couple of months, I honestly don’t mind if you’re out camping, talking about gear or out for the day with Jo, your videos are great to watch and I love the variety. Keep ‘em coming! ATB Mike.
I took a Big Agnes Tigerwall UL1 on the west highland way in May, granted the weather was superb, but I loved the room available to me, even got my bag inside no problem, I love this tent and the ease of use and I guess that's the biggest thing, if you are happy with your choice then you will already be in high spirits for your trips.
I solo hike with a 3 person tent. Just back from a solo hike on Kungsleden in Sweden. I used my Fjällräven Arbisko Lite 3 and with all the rain I was really happy with having a lot of space in my shelter. Its trail weight is just under/around 2 kg and it’s very comfortable and spacious on solo adventures and still great and roomy on two person trips. They call it a three person tent, but arrr that would be very cramped. Having a great tent for two was my first priority, even if it meant that I’m carrying a 2 kg tent on my solo adventures. But I’m starting to look into 1 person tents for the next season. The Arbisko Lite 3 has been a perfect and very versatile tent as a starting point. With this one tent I have been on so many different types of adventures (backpacking, SUP touring, multi day adventure runs, …) and in a huge variety of weather conditions and landscapes. (I have both the mesh inner and the normal inner tent.) Now I’m ready to build a collection of more specialized tents.
my favourite tent is my jack wolfskin gossamer , i have the one and also 2 person , but prefer the 2 because of the space , however for a low profile and more stealthy the one man is suitable and both are extremely bomb proof
I recently bought a Wechsel Exogen 2 person, 3 season tent, mainly for cycle touring and some summer mountain trips here and broad. It pitches inner or outer first, and weighs 1,9kg. If I decide to get back into winter trips I'll get something a bit stronger for the security of it. I'm into my 60's now and can't be bothered squirming around in a small, low space. I like the room. Also like to vestibules, one for the gear and on to cook/sort out in.
just bought my first tent after watching loads of videos and reading loads of reviews. OEX Hyena 2, 2 man tent. seems to tick all the boxes: spacious, inner and outer, weatherproof, decent vestibule, green (so low profile) and cheap - £59 at Go Outdoors. just have to try it out now. would be nice if the rain stopped.
Paul, nice video, its a dilemma I'm now facing, as I've got older, fatter and less flexible, the moving around inside a one man tent is difficult now, that bit of extra room from a two man tent seems a good solution, what i could really do with is a large 1 man tent (call it a 1.5 man tent (perhaps an idea for a future video, review of 1 man tents that are suitable for us larger, older, less flexible people).
I believe that absolutely everyone who likes to camp has had this dilemma! 😂 But I must say that thanks to videos like yours it’s a lot easier to choose the right one for you! I mainly camp off of a motorcycle now, so I don’t have to worry too much about weights etc, but I do need extra room to store motorbike gear, boots and helmet. I use a Berghaus Cairngorm 2 tent because it’s got a massive vestibule which leaves me plenty of room inside for a large sleeping pad (Flextail R05 also thanks to you) and all my other bits! It’s all down to the user’s personal requirements! Another great video, thank you! 👌
I solo hike, or with my brother/friends who've got their gear, therefor I like using my 1-p tent. Having a better half is certainly the reason to look at 2-p and 3-p tents. An Unna and/or 3-p Nallo GT would probably also be on my list.
Fiest 😂🎉 Pulled over on the M5 for this one Paul . Tested the OEX Heiro yesterday and its way faster than my old Firemaple . Still buzzing from the amazing prize 🏆 Thank you .
Brilliant Martin. I was very impressed with the Heiro myself. For the money it’s so much better value than the Jetboil. Although even better when you win one 😂
Used my Roben starlight 2 for a good 6 years straight, all year round in multiple weather conditions. That was until recently when I upgraded to the Helm compact 2, I will just use that now for the foreseeable future. At 6ft and nearly 17 stone I need a 2 man tent 😂 I know a few lads who have multiple tents that they use for different environments, weather conditions and so on.
Yeah I'm on a relatively tight budget so my kit has got to be multirole so my two tents are both 2 person. My Naturehike Cloud Up 2 and my Lanshan 2. Besides, I prefer to have all of my kit inside with me and i like the space. Having said that it was a right pain in the backside trying to find a suitable spot in a forest last week for my Lanshan 2. With hindsight I should have taken my Naturehike.
Definitely prefer a 2 man tent, way more roomier for all the things you bring. I also always put a tarp over the tent and give you an outdoor area too. I have a Bisinna tent from Ali Express and it is like 2m inside length x 1.2m wide
Always a 2 man tent. Extra room to get the gear in and in wild weather I like to know it's in with me and not sneaking out under the fly and getting soaked or blown away! The exception is the Durston. I've just bought the Xmid2 and really wish I'd gone for the 1 man, their offset inner shape gives a lot of inside storage and the twin vestibules mean the 1 man would be fine. Plus the 2-man footprint is massive! I also always go for solid inners (black if available!) - better heat retention in winter, fewer draughts and it keeps more light out in summer. I'm even considering trying to dye my Durston inner black...
The 2 vs 1 man tent is related to the dual-wall vs single-wall decision. Dual-wall gives you less of an inner space, single-wall has more risk of condensation getting to your most precious dry kit. I've just about got myself to stick to a 2-tent setup, one for summer drier warmer, one for everything else. A single-wall Tarptent Protrail for good warm dry weather and dual-wall Tarptent Notch solid inner for all other conditions. They weigh very similar but the single-wall has one larger inner space, the dual-wall has inner/outer space segregated. In summer the biggest issue is insects and being too-warm so a single wall larger space is respite when stationary. If you did find yourself holed up for a long time in a 1-man dual-wall due to wind/rain, so no flying insects, you can always unclip the inner and sit on it to get all the extra space of just the outer. Most 1-man dual-wall tents with detachable inner are palaces with the inner unclipped. Yes you can get mesh inners but you'd be using them in hot weather and it's still cooler to go single-wall than mesh dual-wall for those situations, so 2 tents is better than 1 tent with 2 inners. Now if only I could get my stove count down to only 2....
2P Tent for me - Tarptent Double Rainbow Li - absolutely the best tent I’ve ever owned, it’s so light that it doesn’t even make sense for me to consider the 1P version just to save a few grams!
If iam on a multi-day hike , I am more likely to take a 1person tent. Though in summers I have been taking my lanshan 2... Always different tents for different jobs.. Take care out there.
Only ever owned 2man tents, always go out with the border collie so need the room, i love my SC2, room for her majesty to spread out🤣 Just waiting for the MLD duomid xl to arrive… now you’re talking room👌🐾⛺️
I've got both, and would go for the Helm 2 every time, but I'm just some random stranger on the Internet 🙂 I got the Helm 1 specifically for winter camps, but found that there just wasn't enough room inside, considering the amount of time you have to spend in there in the winter, plus packing my gear away when inside was so much more difficult.
Im the same, had a helm 1 great tent but found it a bit too small being 6ft plus and gear. So got a helm 2, again a great tent loads more room really like it, but it's a bit more of a faff on packing away and has a bigger footprint. Both have pros n cons.
Well, I just bought an X-Mid 1 Solid for through hiking, but I have a few two man tents which I use on my own too, so it depends on what my needs are, if UL is important on a through hike then it's a one man, if it's winter and I'll spend twelve hours or more in the tent then it's probably going to be a two man tent. If I'm camping by the car then its a three man tent.
What do you mean, one person or two person? It's obviously both😂 I have the Snugpak Stratosphere, Vango Banshee 200 pro. Banshee 300 and the DD Pyramid Tent. It's great to have a choice. And depending if I am solo or with my daughter, can make all the difference. Great video, paul.
Hi Paul any chance you can do a set up review of the panacea 1 as thinking of buying it , and after watching your helm 1 compact video I did go purchase that tent which is my favourite at the moment , thanks
I've got a Zephyros Compact 1, which has enough space inside and a reasonable vestibule, and an Alpkit Jaran 2. The Zephyros is lighter and smaller, and warmer, the Jaran is luxurious in comparison - but cooler. Just as others have said! I also think I sleep better in the Jaran, maybe a touch of claustrophobia with the Zephyros? But I like them both. Deciding which to take also depends on which bike I'm using as I'm a cycle tourer rather than a walker, and where I'm going - hilliness!
I had the Unna some years ago and sold it for a lightweight 1p and I still regret it. Now I have the msr hubba nx an i like it so far. Wind sturdy well ventilated, a bit tight though.
Took the oex jackall II out last week and no way in hell is that as big as some guys on youtube state. I'm 5ft7 and my toes were touching the end while my head was skimming the inner. I'd have been vacuum packed in their 1 man tent!
When it comes to X-Mid - 1(solid) is better for solo hikes as finding a wide enough space is near impossible sometimes when on the multi day hikes and trails in Scotland! 2 is great with kid, when somebody wanna join or solo luxury 2 nights camp for relax, campfire etc ;) Anyway, just my opinion. I got both.
I always use a 2 man tent. To be honest my current 2 man is way lighter than any 1 man tent I had when I started camping 35 years ago. Younger backpackers have no idea how amazing the kit is now.
I used to love 'proper' tents like the Vango Force 10 but they were heavy and no way you'd enjoying backpacking with them. I don't often take my tent in a backpack because my son comes with me and he's not quite old enough for wild camping and complains if we have to walk more than 10 miles, especially if it's uphill (downhill mountain bikers don't do uphill much apparently. He doesn't know he's born from a 55 year old who had to ride up the hill to hammer down it)
I worked in low coal at less than a meter high gor a good part of 50 years. I'll take the shoulder room and generally the heigth of a two man. Having said that my Hilleberg Hilton Soulo is a fav because of the small footprint. I really like my Staika for the two man size. A lot fepends on whether I hike in or ride my motorcycle or atv. One thing about the riding it does get to bad to travel at times and you vould be stuck in your tent a couple days. It happens. Whete as in hiking put the rain clothes on and head out. All good next time
3 tent man myself. I don't do it often enough for me to have multiple tents, so that means when I go solo I've got loads of room and can have my gear in with me. And on the rare occasion the mrs wants to come, we still have a little bit of extra room so she's not claustrophobic and end up never doing it again
One-man for overnighters in summer, anything longer it is two-person all the way. This may well be influenced by my age (65) which makes a little more room easier for old joints to get un/dressed.
I think there's probably a market for 1+ size tents. I have been using a vango zenith 200 for 9 years this year and ive been hesitant to replace it because its the perfect size. It's a small footprint but has enough room for a wide mat and my gear inside with me kept safe and dry. You'd have to be mad to try and sleep two in it however. 1 man tents are much too small for me and a lot of 2 man tents are too big. I might pull the plug on a F10 Helium UL2 as it's essentially the same tent as my zenith, just quite a bit lighter. I like the look of the Xmid 2 but its massive! I'd never be able to pitch it in some of my favourite spots it being as wide and square as it is. a 1+ size Xmid would be great.
I got the 1 man helm off the back of your review it is just enough and I think under most circumstances the 2 would be too big but for anyone over 6 foot go for something bigger, and I just bought the black ribbed silicone mug with the nodules. And for me the helm 1 would be better if it didn't have the zip storage area, internal space would make more sense but the vestibule is decent and like I say just enough for me.And a black mesh inner for me would be what I want without the zip storage are though but still have the zip for ventilation,.
1 man (Bobcat) if I just need to throw up somewhere to sleep. 2 man (Cloud Up 2) if I'm staying somewhere a little longer 4 man (a pair of Decathlon tents) if myself and the good lady are site camping. In the end I think it's all down to personal preferences. To quote one of your videos "I don't think there is such a thing as a perfect tent"
If the same amount of gear is all packed inside a 1man tent then it might restrict airflow a bit more than a 2man, which would tend to make condensation worse
Because I am wildcamping i focus on little unsuspicious tents or even bivy bags (with a head pole). Bags are quite often tolerated by the law in many European countries.
I'm 6ft 5 and 17 stone... 2 man tent EVERY time for me as I don't fit or feel comfortable in a 1 man tent. Bit more weight to carry on a 2 man tent, but a good night's sleep makes it worth it to me.
Doesn’t look like you can get a 2nd trekking pole at the back of the Panacea 1? No easy way to get access at the rear to get the pole in, and the inner extends into the space where the pole would sit on the floor.
Hi Paul, I’ve been tempted by the Unna and wondered if you’ve been out in it in the rain and if so how difficult it is to get your wet things off before getting into the inner?
ua-cam.com/video/w-y0G60YEkA/v-deo.html I briefly show it in this video. it's pretty straightforward and there's much more space to get changed whilst keeping the inner dry.
@@PaulMessner Thanks for the link. You made it look so easy. I assume it’s easier without a footprint if you’re retracting the inner to make a vestibule?
Actually I like a 3 man tent.There's lots of leg room and your kit bag also.I can fit a 3 man tent into a very small space. Lots of room to change your clothes inside 3 man tent. You can get a chair inside also ! Mike.
Two person tents are better than tents described as for one-person. I do have issues with the manufacturers descriptions - few two-person tents can fit two people comfortably!
personally i’m a 2 person tent.,. i find the 1 person a little claustrophobic and i like to be able to spread my stuff out …. lanshan 2 four season is my favorite 😁
Two man for wildcamping, four man for campsite camping! I'm a bit taller and wider than you, I'd find a one man too cramped and I like having my gear inside the tent. Helm 2 is the right size for me.
A three-person tent is for two people, a two-person tent is for one person and a one-person tent is like casket. Just how I feel. My Duplex weighs next to nothing and for one person and my dog it works great.
As a 6'4 (193cm) 93kg (14 stone) bloke I don't know if any 1 man tents would actually work for me, annoyingly. I've only bought one tent and it's a 2 man walking pole tent that does me fine so far
look at it this way...a three man tent will accommodate 1 person or 2 or even 3 so will work in more situations whereas 1 man tent is only good in one situation right? I have 3 man tent it will accommodate another person easily and has plenty of space for gear/boots etc.
too many nasties in australia. 2man so you can keep yr stuff inside. ant and nasty free. 1 person, bring a gargbage bag or 2 to hold your pack/stuff outside.
Bought Helm 1 just before West Highland Way. By the first night I knew that I am selling it once I will be back and buying Helm 2. In rainy windy nights all you gear will get wet and you don’t have an option/space to keep it inside, useless. Try to move you dirty 65l backpack through sleeping compartment to the side storage compartment, what a nightmare. Ok it’s a great tent, quick to set up etc, but maybe for one night camps.
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2 man all day long ! Room to move when it’s pissing it down. Or long winter nights 😊
Agreed 100% Big gains for just a little more weight, win, win.
My Vango Banshee 200 is brilliant. Fits me and my backpack. I wouldn't like to share it with my 15 year old son though now he's almost as tall as me. He also snores occasionally 😁
I tend to go for 2-3 man tents. You get a bit more head room, not as cramped, and nicer if you are stuck in the tent for a few days due to bad weather.
You make very good points. I usually don’t hang out in the tent much so I’m usually bringing the minimum. Yes, some long winter nights but I’m just lying down the whole time no matter how big the tent.
When my wife and I did a trip that involved several months in the tent we went for a premium and fairly light 4 person tent, in that instance a Big Agnes Copper Spur. We had quite a bit of stuff with us (travelling by bike) and it was great having so much room. I think when I start some solo camping though I will back to a 1 person tent.
I went from a Wild Country Zepheros compact 1 to a Terra Nova Pioneer compact 2. Weighs 350g more and has the same pack size. Only used the Pioneer once but it's like a palace compared to the Zepheros. I can also sit up in the Pioneer. Will still use both depending on the situation.
I have my tents sorted now 👌 . Vern 1 for bad weather and winter , durston xmid 1 for long multiday treks in decent weather . Loads of room and I can sit up in them :-) . The lighter the tent you have as well means you can take more beer with you on longer treks 😂
Tents are (or certainly should be) a very personal choice. At 70, just over 6ft and about 17 stone, I use a Terra Nova Pioneer 2, with the new 'Compact' poles, which is really a 1.5 person tent. It suits me perfectly as I have plenty of space for a long/wide pad and bag, can sit up inside and get dressed or kneel to pee in the night and can still get all my bits and pieces in if I need to when the weather is bad (though I usually leave the sac in the vestibule).
That's what I got. I call it my 1 man and his dog 🐕
Deffo a 1-man for limitless pitching options and warmth, but a 2-man tent for comfort and bad weather … my current favourite shelter is a Vango Nexus UL F10 (2-man) tent, which I took with me on my last camp up on Derwent Edge, and I even managed to squeeze it into my favourite spot up there - just, much to my surprise! 😁
Getting on a bit are we Paul 😂😜 I’m 63 and last year did the Pennine Way with my Labrador sized dog in a hilliberg Enan 👌
Hi Paul, been watching your videos for years now, just wanted to say I love what you’re doing with the channel these last couple of months, I honestly don’t mind if you’re out camping, talking about gear or out for the day with Jo, your videos are great to watch and I love the variety. Keep ‘em coming! ATB Mike.
1 person for me. Love the Bobcat. All I need, as Paul says it's very much a personal thing.
I took a Big Agnes Tigerwall UL1 on the west highland way in May, granted the weather was superb, but I loved the room available to me, even got my bag inside no problem, I love this tent and the ease of use and I guess that's the biggest thing, if you are happy with your choice then you will already be in high spirits for your trips.
I solo hike with a 3 person tent. Just back from a solo hike on Kungsleden in Sweden. I used my Fjällräven Arbisko Lite 3 and with all the rain I was really happy with having a lot of space in my shelter. Its trail weight is just under/around 2 kg and it’s very comfortable and spacious on solo adventures and still great and roomy on two person trips. They call it a three person tent, but arrr that would be very cramped.
Having a great tent for two was my first priority, even if it meant that I’m carrying a 2 kg tent on my solo adventures. But I’m starting to look into 1 person tents for the next season.
The Arbisko Lite 3 has been a perfect and very versatile tent as a starting point. With this one tent I have been on so many different types of adventures (backpacking, SUP touring, multi day adventure runs, …) and in a huge variety of weather conditions and landscapes. (I have both the mesh inner and the normal inner tent.)
Now I’m ready to build a collection of more specialized tents.
For me it's a Terra Nova Pioneer Compact 2 Tent which is a 1.5 person tent the very best of both worlds.
my favourite tent is my jack wolfskin gossamer , i have the one and also 2 person , but prefer the 2 because of the space , however for a low profile and more stealthy the one man is suitable and both are extremely bomb proof
I use my bobcat 1 in the winter for the whole less area to keep warm and my cloud peak2 in the warmer weather for comfort snd space
I recently bought a Wechsel Exogen 2 person, 3 season tent, mainly for cycle touring and some summer mountain trips here and broad. It pitches inner or outer first, and weighs 1,9kg. If I decide to get back into winter trips I'll get something a bit stronger for the security of it. I'm into my 60's now and can't be bothered squirming around in a small, low space. I like the room. Also like to vestibules, one for the gear and on to cook/sort out in.
just bought my first tent after watching loads of videos and reading loads of reviews. OEX Hyena 2, 2 man tent. seems to tick all the boxes: spacious, inner and outer, weatherproof, decent vestibule, green (so low profile) and cheap - £59 at Go Outdoors. just have to try it out now. would be nice if the rain stopped.
Paul, nice video, its a dilemma I'm now facing, as I've got older, fatter and less flexible, the moving around inside a one man tent is difficult now, that bit of extra room from a two man tent seems a good solution, what i could really do with is a large 1 man tent (call it a 1.5 man tent (perhaps an idea for a future video, review of 1 man tents that are suitable for us larger, older, less flexible people).
I’m looking for a 1/2 man tent to start solo camping. This has been helpful
I believe that absolutely everyone who likes to camp has had this dilemma! 😂 But I must say that thanks to videos like yours it’s a lot easier to choose the right one for you! I mainly camp off of a motorcycle now, so I don’t have to worry too much about weights etc, but I do need extra room to store motorbike gear, boots and helmet. I use a Berghaus Cairngorm 2 tent because it’s got a massive vestibule which leaves me plenty of room inside for a large sleeping pad (Flextail R05 also thanks to you) and all my other bits! It’s all down to the user’s personal requirements! Another great video, thank you! 👌
I solo hike, or with my brother/friends who've got their gear, therefor I like using my 1-p tent.
Having a better half is certainly the reason to look at 2-p and 3-p tents. An Unna and/or 3-p Nallo GT would probably also be on my list.
Fiest 😂🎉
Pulled over on the M5 for this one Paul . Tested the OEX Heiro yesterday and its way faster than my old Firemaple .
Still buzzing from the amazing prize 🏆
Thank you .
Brilliant Martin. I was very impressed with the Heiro myself. For the money it’s so much better value than the Jetboil. Although even better when you win one 😂
I like 1 man tents it's all the room I need. Smaller is more cozy as long as you can sit up all is good 👍
I use a 1P Tarptent Rainbow. I love it! I’m short so I can place my gear behind my head.
Fantastic video Paul, thanks for sharing this amazing story.
Great video Paul camping on Thursday I do like lots of room like Jo as we get older thanks Daren
Used my Roben starlight 2 for a good 6 years straight, all year round in multiple weather conditions.
That was until recently when I upgraded to the Helm compact 2, I will just use that now for the foreseeable future.
At 6ft and nearly 17 stone I need a 2 man tent 😂
I know a few lads who have multiple tents that they use for different environments, weather conditions and so on.
Yeah I'm on a relatively tight budget so my kit has got to be multirole so my two tents are both 2 person.
My Naturehike Cloud Up 2 and my Lanshan 2.
Besides, I prefer to have all of my kit inside with me and i like the space.
Having said that it was a right pain in the backside trying to find a suitable spot in a forest last week for my Lanshan 2.
With hindsight I should have taken my Naturehike.
2man all day Paul in every way just more room for sleep , cook , comfort 😊😊
I've got 4, 2 man tents and I'm happy with the space . I like to bring all my stuff in with me
Definitely prefer a 2 man tent, way more roomier for all the things you bring. I also always put a tarp over the tent and give you an outdoor area too. I have a Bisinna tent from Ali Express and it is like 2m inside length x 1.2m wide
I once used a 16 man tent with a big living room for 2 people, the tent is in skegness if you want to give it ago
That's why one tent is never enough.
Always a 2 man tent. Extra room to get the gear in and in wild weather I like to know it's in with me and not sneaking out under the fly and getting soaked or blown away! The exception is the Durston. I've just bought the Xmid2 and really wish I'd gone for the 1 man, their offset inner shape gives a lot of inside storage and the twin vestibules mean the 1 man would be fine. Plus the 2-man footprint is massive! I also always go for solid inners (black if available!) - better heat retention in winter, fewer draughts and it keeps more light out in summer. I'm even considering trying to dye my Durston inner black...
The 2 vs 1 man tent is related to the dual-wall vs single-wall decision. Dual-wall gives you less of an inner space, single-wall has more risk of condensation getting to your most precious dry kit.
I've just about got myself to stick to a 2-tent setup, one for summer drier warmer, one for everything else. A single-wall Tarptent Protrail for good warm dry weather and dual-wall Tarptent Notch solid inner for all other conditions.
They weigh very similar but the single-wall has one larger inner space, the dual-wall has inner/outer space segregated.
In summer the biggest issue is insects and being too-warm so a single wall larger space is respite when stationary.
If you did find yourself holed up for a long time in a 1-man dual-wall due to wind/rain, so no flying insects, you can always unclip the inner and sit on it to get all the extra space of just the outer. Most 1-man dual-wall tents with detachable inner are palaces with the inner unclipped.
Yes you can get mesh inners but you'd be using them in hot weather and it's still cooler to go single-wall than mesh dual-wall for those situations, so 2 tents is better than 1 tent with 2 inners.
Now if only I could get my stove count down to only 2....
2P Tent for me - Tarptent Double Rainbow Li - absolutely the best tent I’ve ever owned, it’s so light that it doesn’t even make sense for me to consider the 1P version just to save a few grams!
If iam on a multi-day hike , I am more likely to take a 1person tent. Though in summers I have been taking my lanshan 2... Always different tents for different jobs.. Take care out there.
As always an interesting and thought provoking video.
Only ever owned 2man tents, always go out with the border collie so need the room, i love my SC2, room for her majesty to spread out🤣 Just waiting for the MLD duomid xl to arrive… now you’re talking room👌🐾⛺️
I’m buckled how many times I have flip flopped from getting a helm 1 to a 2 and back again on the video 😂😂😂
I've got both, and would go for the Helm 2 every time, but I'm just some random stranger on the Internet 🙂
I got the Helm 1 specifically for winter camps, but found that there just wasn't enough room inside, considering the amount of time you have to spend in there in the winter, plus packing my gear away when inside was so much more difficult.
@@darrens3052 thanks for the help
Im the same, had a helm 1 great tent but found it a bit too small being 6ft plus and gear. So got a helm 2, again a great tent loads more room really like it, but it's a bit more of a faff on packing away and has a bigger footprint. Both have pros n cons.
Well, I just bought an X-Mid 1 Solid for through hiking, but I have a few two man tents which I use on my own too, so it depends on what my needs are, if UL is important on a through hike then it's a one man, if it's winter and I'll spend twelve hours or more in the tent then it's probably going to be a two man tent. If I'm camping by the car then its a three man tent.
What do you mean, one person or two person? It's obviously both😂
I have the Snugpak Stratosphere, Vango Banshee 200 pro. Banshee 300 and the DD Pyramid Tent. It's great to have a choice. And depending if I am solo or with my daughter, can make all the difference. Great video, paul.
Hi Paul any chance you can do a set up review of the panacea 1 as thinking of buying it , and after watching your helm 1 compact video I did go purchase that tent which is my favourite at the moment , thanks
Once got me self a 4 person tent.....
jeez it freezing....so 2/3 is nice for me size & OAP (recent) status....
'Ull' east yorkshire.
I've got a Zephyros Compact 1, which has enough space inside and a reasonable vestibule, and an Alpkit Jaran 2. The Zephyros is lighter and smaller, and warmer, the Jaran is luxurious in comparison - but cooler. Just as others have said! I also think I sleep better in the Jaran, maybe a touch of claustrophobia with the Zephyros? But I like them both. Deciding which to take also depends on which bike I'm using as I'm a cycle tourer rather than a walker, and where I'm going - hilliness!
Terra NOVA Quaser 2 all day ....slept in it for 3 weeks in the winter in Scotland
Bomb proof ! Can cha get gear and stretch out !
I had the Unna some years ago and sold it for a lightweight 1p and I still regret it.
Now I have the msr hubba nx an i like it so far. Wind sturdy well ventilated, a bit tight though.
Great video Paul
Being a Boy Scout I was trained to always clear a space for a fire. Dry times.
Took the oex jackall II out last week and no way in hell is that as big as some guys on youtube state. I'm 5ft7 and my toes were touching the end while my head was skimming the inner. I'd have been vacuum packed in their 1 man tent!
2 man for the win.
Love my Southern Cross 2.
Durability, reliability, and plenty of space for me and all my kit.
The extra grams are well worth it.
When it comes to X-Mid - 1(solid) is better for solo hikes as finding a wide enough space is near impossible sometimes when on the multi day hikes and trails in Scotland!
2 is great with kid, when somebody wanna join or solo luxury 2 nights camp for relax, campfire etc ;)
Anyway, just my opinion. I got both.
I prefer 2 or occasionally 3 man tents, I don't do much hiking these days, also I have Claustrophobia and most of the one man tents trigger it sadly
Still amazes me that even with no interest in camping, I still come and watch these videos because they're just oddly relaxing 😂
Get a tent - you’ll not regret it.
I always use a 2 man tent. To be honest my current 2 man is way lighter than any 1 man tent I had when I started camping 35 years ago. Younger backpackers have no idea how amazing the kit is now.
I used to love 'proper' tents like the Vango Force 10 but they were heavy and no way you'd enjoying backpacking with them. I don't often take my tent in a backpack because my son comes with me and he's not quite old enough for wild camping and complains if we have to walk more than 10 miles, especially if it's uphill (downhill mountain bikers don't do uphill much apparently. He doesn't know he's born from a 55 year old who had to ride up the hill to hammer down it)
I worked in low coal at less than a meter high gor a good part of 50 years. I'll take the shoulder room and generally the heigth of a two man. Having said that my Hilleberg Hilton Soulo is a fav because of the small footprint. I really like my Staika for the two man size. A lot fepends on whether I hike in or ride my motorcycle or atv. One thing about the riding it does get to bad to travel at times and you vould be stuck in your tent a couple days. It happens. Whete as in hiking put the rain clothes on and head out. All good next time
3 tent man myself. I don't do it often enough for me to have multiple tents, so that means when I go solo I've got loads of room and can have my gear in with me. And on the rare occasion the mrs wants to come, we still have a little bit of extra room so she's not claustrophobic and end up never doing it again
One-man for overnighters in summer, anything longer it is two-person all the way. This may well be influenced by my age (65) which makes a little more room easier for old joints to get un/dressed.
I think there's probably a market for 1+ size tents. I have been using a vango zenith 200 for 9 years this year and ive been hesitant to replace it because its the perfect size. It's a small footprint but has enough room for a wide mat and my gear inside with me kept safe and dry. You'd have to be mad to try and sleep two in it however. 1 man tents are much too small for me and a lot of 2 man tents are too big.
I might pull the plug on a F10 Helium UL2 as it's essentially the same tent as my zenith, just quite a bit lighter. I like the look of the Xmid 2 but its massive! I'd never be able to pitch it in some of my favourite spots it being as wide and square as it is. a 1+ size Xmid would be great.
2 man, like the extra room, hate feeling closed in 👍🏻
I got the 1 man helm off the back of your review it is just enough and I think under most circumstances the 2 would be too big but for anyone over 6 foot go for something bigger, and I just bought the black ribbed silicone mug with the nodules. And for me the helm 1 would be better if it didn't have the zip storage area, internal space would make more sense but the vestibule is decent and like I say just enough for me.And a black mesh inner for me would be what I want without the zip storage are though but still have the zip for ventilation,.
1 man (Bobcat) if I just need to throw up somewhere to sleep. 2 man (Cloud Up 2) if I'm staying somewhere a little longer
4 man (a pair of Decathlon tents) if myself and the good lady are site camping.
In the end I think it's all down to personal preferences.
To quote one of your videos "I don't think there is such a thing as a perfect tent"
If the same amount of gear is all packed inside a 1man tent then it might restrict airflow a bit more than a 2man, which would tend to make condensation worse
Because I am wildcamping i focus on little unsuspicious tents or even bivy bags (with a head pole). Bags are quite often tolerated by the law in many European countries.
Whenever I take a 1-man tent it always ends up chucking it down and I wish I had brought my 2-man tent 😂
I'm 6ft 5 and 17 stone... 2 man tent EVERY time for me as I don't fit or feel comfortable in a 1 man tent.
Bit more weight to carry on a 2 man tent, but a good night's sleep makes it worth it to me.
Doesn’t look like you can get a 2nd trekking pole at the back of the Panacea 1?
No easy way to get access at the rear to get the pole in, and the inner extends into the space where the pole would sit on the floor.
What tent is that ....??
Either or for me. Sometimes I like the 1 man overnight wild camps but always 2 man for long distance multi day hikes.
Hi Paul, I’ve been tempted by the Unna and wondered if you’ve been out in it in the rain and if so how difficult it is to get your wet things off before getting into the inner?
ua-cam.com/video/w-y0G60YEkA/v-deo.html I briefly show it in this video. it's pretty straightforward and there's much more space to get changed whilst keeping the inner dry.
@@PaulMessner Thanks for the link. You made it look so easy. I assume it’s easier without a footprint if you’re retracting the inner to make a vestibule?
Paul, everybody looks for a 2 man tent for 1 person, palacial as they say.. Could you recommend a decent size 1 person tent...??
2 man (or rather 1 man and 1 dog 🐶😄)
Actually I like a 3 man tent.There's lots of leg room and your kit bag also.I can fit a 3 man tent into a very small space.
Lots of room to change your clothes inside 3 man tent. You can get a chair inside also !
Mike.
As a motorcycle camper a two man tent is perfect for me. mainly because I want to keep the bugs out of my helmet 😂
Two person tents are better than tents described as for one-person. I do have issues with the manufacturers descriptions - few two-person tents can fit two people comfortably!
My one man tent is pretty awful for condensation and I can only just sit up in it BUT I sleep like a top in it, so I love it. Nordisk Telemark 1 😴 💤
personally i’m a 2 person tent.,. i find the 1 person a little claustrophobic and i like to be able to spread my stuff out …. lanshan 2 four season is my favorite 😁
2 man all day long, just need the space. I also have a 5 man(for myself) for weekend events and festivals.
One man tent is good for fast pick up and tear down and to keep it moving fast.
Two man for wildcamping, four man for campsite camping! I'm a bit taller and wider than you, I'd find a one man too cramped and I like having my gear inside the tent. Helm 2 is the right size for me.
A three-person tent is for two people, a two-person tent is for one person and a one-person tent is like casket. Just how I feel. My Duplex weighs next to nothing and for one person and my dog it works great.
Love me a two man.......tent. 🤪😂🤭
Just bought the Vango F10 Nexus UL2 so..... 🤷♂️
As a 6'4 (193cm) 93kg (14 stone) bloke I don't know if any 1 man tents would actually work for me, annoyingly. I've only bought one tent and it's a 2 man walking pole tent that does me fine so far
I'd say, it depends on the second person! 🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
look at it this way...a three man tent will accommodate 1 person or 2 or even 3 so will work in more situations whereas 1 man tent is only good in one situation right? I have 3 man tent it will accommodate another person easily and has plenty of space for gear/boots etc.
2 man extra room
On the touring bike a one person is ok but with the Brompton it’s two person so the bike is folded up with me
Hilleberg anjan 2 for me all year round
I go from one extreme to the other as I feel like. I have a 2 man tent and a RAB bivvy. I like the bivvy even in winter - go figure :)
2 person tent for more comfort
Just brought a 1 man tent
1.5 man tents are the way to go (e.g. Unna, Vaude Space Seamless 1-2p)
Or a spacious 1 man like a Copper Spur HV UL1
Im 6 2, 2 Person all the way.!
I have two one person 🧍♀️ tents but my next tent will be a two person tent so that I can keep all my stuff inside.
too many nasties in australia. 2man so you can keep yr stuff inside. ant and nasty free. 1 person, bring a gargbage bag or 2 to hold your pack/stuff outside.
I got a one person jack wolfskin tent and to be honest you could get three people easily in it. How they call it a one person is beyond me..
Bought Helm 1 just before West Highland Way. By the first night I knew that I am selling it once I will be back and buying Helm 2.
In rainy windy nights all you gear will get wet and you don’t have an option/space to keep it inside, useless.
Try to move you dirty 65l backpack through sleeping compartment to the side storage compartment, what a nightmare.
Ok it’s a great tent, quick to set up etc, but maybe for one night camps.