Jaycen Joshua's DrumBus Plugin Orion
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Review of Orion by Cradle Audio and Jaycen Joshua
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Most of the time the drums sounded better without it. More natural, punchy and defined. But it sounded round and cool on bass I must confess.
There is clearly a lack of optimization on plugins in general as was the case on Izotope's plugins not so long ago, usable only for final mastering.
It's not crazy in terms of sound rendering, you can achieve that easily if you have the skills.
I gotta try this and compare it to the Knock plugin which I love
As someone who now owns both… Knock is way better in my opinion.
@@joshjamesuk Yeah. I tested this yesterday and in my opinion Knock is better
This is super cool at least it alleviate a lot of plug-ins in your sessions, the only thing that I have noticed is that plug-ins are like drugs you buy one and there’s another and another and another is gonna leave you broke. What do you guys think?💭👻🔊💥
God Particle was amazing because it emulated something you cannot get anymore -- his ozone 4 preset.
Im sure Orion is great but i feel like you can just copy his old drum bus and get similar results (RBASS --> SHADOW HILLS --> BLACKBOX & The NLS bus he does)
Since I couldn't see the Studio One interface, I wondered about the CPU utilization
Bought it right after testing it. It saves so much time and sounds phenomenal. I don’t have any plug-in that does this so well. ❤
The “grit” or “fruity loops” is just a soft clipper at the end of the mastering chain in older versions of FL… Idk how this is still so confusing for people. It’s not a limiter. The new default template uses a limiter in FL, but that’s not the signature sound.
Yes. That's been figured out but 6-7 years ago we were all still trying to figure out why.
Are we sure Drive is the NLS or is it Shadow Hills (Nickel, Iron, Steel)? If it is the NLS, are they just in a different order which makes up the "Color?"
Lol sounds better off...
How does it sound with Kick, Snare and Hi-hats?
Great run-through, Matty, thanks!
Doesn't exactly sound very good does it?
I can’t wait to use it. God Particle is already the secret sauce! amazing
It has never been secret 😂😂😂its overhyped from day 1
secret sauce :D :D :D hahahahahhaahha GAMEEEEE CHANGEEEERRRR
@@michaelguardenti2253it’s pretty damn good
But how does it sound on acoustic drums? Need to try it haha
Been waiting for this! 🔥🔥🔥 Let’s go!
👀 I was sold in 0.01 seconds 🙃
stupid?
Content creators we need an urgent comparison with Knock
@@Reggi_Sample not a good comparison they're 2 different things
@@Craftmaster3 would ssl drumstrip be a better comparison?
Orion does not respect the source material, it changes the original sound too much, especially the kick. In examples in this video the drums sound better with Orion off IMO.
THE MORE SIMPLICITY AUDIO GETS THE MORE WACK PEOPLE BECOME. THIS ISN'T FIRE
Let's see what it can do for my CR78....testing today.
Does this apply to his sub/bass bus? I know they go both hand and hand.
Seems to be the Best on Bass, but the SSL Native DrumStrip is better
This couldn’t have come out at a better time. Can’t wait
Can’t wait for the AI version
Hey they really made a plugin after me😊
QUICK QUESTION. Has anyone done a video with this plug-in, while using god particle on the mix bus?
I am using it with god particle and it blows me away 😂
That lil thing is powerful
I observe Jaycen Joshua 😀 he use Orion in new session "yes or no " and how is the sound
Where?
im done buying plugins.
Amazing 🔥🔥🔥
No Gate or Clipper......Why???!!!! he needed to put a Clipper on the end of it............
You don't already have a gate and clipper?
😂😂
i'm expecting this thing to nuke my cpu
Not bad on CPU at all.
Just tested it on a mix, I was at 70% CPU and it jumped to >100% and crapped itself, and it doesn't even have oversampling... 30%+ CPU is ridiculous for what it does
@@thatreddot6005 nah, thats a pass
idk what computer your on but mine is at most 8%
@@mixedbymatty amd 5800x3d/32gb/W10 ... other people also reporting 30-40% CPU usage. Definitely needs some looking into ... I can run a pretty heavy load of plugins, but this one makes my CPU really unhappy for some reason. Hopefully it will be addressed
Another awful all in one plugin i can't wait not to buy.
another boring generic tool
Have you seen his entire drum buss chain? This take multiple elements and puts it into 1. Besides a transient designer and a clipper at the end this is pretty insane.
I had the original template from ProTools and copied the drum aux + parallels with plugins other than waves.
I tried Orion and wow - am I disappointed. It sounds stupidly bad. There are just no words to describe it. It's the same low quality plugins like most of those "all in one plugins". Wow, and this took like one year. I'm so disappointed. Would not even use it for free.
Note: I think the bass in your example is too distorted already to say something about the distortion from Orion.
You used all the plugins other than waves!?? 3/4 of the original chain is waves. So you weren’t using the “chain” at all. Not sure what you’re comparing here.
@@mixedbymatty Yes that's right. I ear matched from originally waves to other brands.
From my hear, this is the chain:
- shadow hills comp
- Spectre = Rbass/Rcomp
- Pultec EQ
- SSL G Channel Gate
- Softube Transient Designer
4 Parallels (the names are the same as in Orion except grit = transformer)
1) Loud (upward compression)
→ SmartComp2 = Waves MV2
2) Grit/Transformer
→ Softube Harmonics, SSL Bus Comp, Stereo Widener, Low Cut
3) Sub
→ SSL Bus Comp + Pultec EQP1A
4) Low = Low Air
→ Hi Cut + SSL Drum Strip LF Enhancer (= Waves LoAir)
Just out of my head.
I tried to get anything good sounding out of Orion. I don't like the sound. The transients from the parallels are not aligned. Especially the "grit". I don't like the harmonic distortion at all. Sound flat and lifeless. My other chain has 10x more depth.
@@mixedbymatty no, 3/4 is not from waves, only RBass and MV2.
The heavy hitters (Shadow Hills Mastering Compressor, Black Box) that make most of the sound are from UAD and/or Brainworx.
The harmonics must be emulating what JJ is doing with Spectre
@@rubenrojano78 sounds like mud to me. I am enjoying the God Particle sometimes, but this is a rip off.
Unless he starts releasing mono, multi-monos and surround versions…I’m not even interested in looking at them. When mixes come in with God Particle, it immediately gets removed because it cannot be translated into ATMOS if you use OBEDs or anything hybrid. And if it was used on the master you can’t effectively print stems through it because it doesn’t react to isolated stems the same as it does on the full mix. Sorry Jaycen. But you gotta keep up with the formats.
That's because Atmos is a costly, money-making gimmick that consumers care nothing about.
Atmos will never be adopted by music consumers, as the required hardware is costly & impractical
Atmos only makes sense for Tv/Film, when multi-angle VISUAL cues are represented with realistic audio panorama.
@@ShynAwkward 3.5 billion devices already out there capable of playing a format that has one deliverable that encompasses every format below it. Sure. You keep your propaganda up. I’ll be over here making some money on that “money-making gimmick”
@@JamesArthurHurley
People cannot afford equipement to enjoy atmos. Most of the people use their phones to listen to music(which is crazy). It's a long way before it becomes a thing for the public,a very long way.
@@mygoogle1525 and somehow there is already 3.5 BILLION atmos capable devices already sold
You can sidechain to a dummy stereo master to print stems on the god particle.