in case you don't know, if your scv are on auto repair, you can A move toward a location and they will repair everything on their path. it can save you a couple click
So, could you right click auto-repair, then a-move to the far side of a group of injured mech units, then shift-left-click back to minerals so that they resume mining when everyone is green?
I'm with you on this one. It bothers me every time he repairs so poorly. He flies his stuff over the top of buildings and then complains that auto repair doesn't work well, but it really works much better than specifically queuing repairs.
Late comment but they only do that behaviour when there is no enemies around. They priotise attack over repair when A-moving. At least from my experience. But yeah, clicking one by one as he often does is inefficient, especially for air units as they leave a big gap beneath it which could fit more SCVs.
21:50 because you're floating so much minerals, i love the idea of turret outposts near his base or in the middle of the map so the ravens have a safe spot to go to.
Honestly it’s nice to see you struggle with these challenges for once! Seeing you excel all the time is great, but I learn a lot from how you approach losing too
In regards to lifting the CC: It goes up and down in 2 seconds. During that time SCVs continue the mining process. By the time the CC lands all workers are carrying payload and you return them all to mining by boxing them and pressing shift+c. Having full saturation you have 16 SCVs not mining for less than 2 seconds (some of them continue the process). Each SCV brings in 50 resources per minute. So 1/30 of 800 means you loose only 27 minerals. For gas it is much less. So don't worry about it if it is only one. If it is 3 and it takes many more seconds then you get, lets say, 162 less resources in total. (2+4+6 seconds aggregates to 162). 3 marines.
Yeah, no. Even if you only lift 1 CC, you will absolutely not land it and get them back to mining in 2 seconds. Edit: I looked back at that spot; it takes 4 seconds with just 1 CC, and with his camera already centered on the problem and reacting instantly.
Unless you have a fourth finished and all SCVs head there to return the minerals/gas. Then you start chasing them on the map to get them to the correct CC. Not fun.
Haven't found the answer after watching all these raven videos. Why drop the autoturrets behind mineral lines? Instead of right between the cc and the mineral patches? I'm guessing a worker pull surround will kill the turrets easily?
You can't drop them on top of workers, so there's not a lot of space and it wastes time looking for an opening that you could spend dropping more turrets. The range on them isn't that small.
I have a question. Are you allowed to make up to 5 marines and a reaper at any time or just once per game. I only ask because you lost 2 at 11:11 but then you have 4 more at 12:17
first not being able to fungal because he boxed a queen in the ling infestor series and now not burrowing a wm because he boxed an scv...when marc figures out you can press tab to cycle through selected units the ladder is in trouble
in the 2nd game where Uthermal accidentally lifts his CC (09:09 - 09:11) how does he make the SCV:s return to their designated task so fast after he landed the CC again?
That second game was beautiful! When ravens split and started to drop cannons everywhere, I could just imagine how annoying that would be on the receiving end, so I can see why it went the way it did, and I'm glad you didn't cut out the end
love how you started to split your ravens into smaller groups, it seems very difficult for your opponents to deal with. a group of just 5-10 ravens looks devastating as long as they only face minor opposition. and if you attack them at two or three different locations, what are they even supposed to do against it? also you seem to thrive in the chaos as usual =D
widow mines are very good against terran late in the game after you kill the starting ravens. very cost effective if u split them... drilling claws is great
I really have not been enjoying Raven/WM and Ling/Infestor series. It seems that if the other player does the right strat then you can't win no matter how you play. No Warp Gate is great and loving that series. Not sure how many people think like me though, I do want to mention that you have made SC2 fun again, so thank you so much for the great content.
Why don't you just put the lift building hot key on a key that is so far away from the cluster of most used hot keys that the chance of accidentally lifting your command center becomes almost zero? Not done with the episode and don't know if it happens here, but you were ranting about it again.. :)
This might be off-brand for you, but what about a "BM to GM Challenge"? Play random and lie about your race; spam chat; use offensive strats; never type glhf or gg; etc. Could be hilarious, and certainly salty!
Off brand is putting it lightly. Marc would never do something like that. Each to their own I guess but I don't see how being a dick to people is suppose to be fun.
I'm Teardrop and I was wondering why our rematch felt so much harder, now I get to hear uthermal's thought process and his adaptations
Good sport 🫡
That turret at the end was pretty funny.
No, you're tearDERP
Being on 3 bases when he was on 6 probably didn't help 😅
U were trying to play with only one hand probably.
25:38 you know you're dead when the enemy has the same amount of ravens as you have probes
Oh yes.
I really like the addition of the timestamps.
in case you don't know, if your scv are on auto repair, you can A move toward a location and they will repair everything on their path. it can save you a couple click
So, could you right click auto-repair, then a-move to the far side of a group of injured mech units, then shift-left-click back to minerals so that they resume mining when everyone is green?
I'm with you on this one. It bothers me every time he repairs so poorly. He flies his stuff over the top of buildings and then complains that auto repair doesn't work well, but it really works much better than specifically queuing repairs.
@@gerritvb yes
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Late comment but they only do that behaviour when there is no enemies around. They priotise attack over repair when A-moving. At least from my experience.
But yeah, clicking one by one as he often does is inefficient, especially for air units as they leave a big gap beneath it which could fit more SCVs.
"I have 10 ravens now and I think I'm gonna fly them all home. I would like them to be together" - uThermal, 2024
21:50 because you're floating so much minerals, i love the idea of turret outposts near his base or in the middle of the map so the ravens have a safe spot to go to.
22:28 welp...
Honestly it’s nice to see you struggle with these challenges for once! Seeing you excel all the time is great, but I learn a lot from how you approach losing too
Commentary is equally logical as the game play. Love the channel! Keep it up.
Thank you for these videos, I always struggle with anxiety and these videos are one of the few things that make me feel calm. Love your energy
My man smashed his keyboard against the wall and just made a good decision to just go touch grass. Honestly I'm not even mad about him going AFK
yeah, at least he wasn't bm
@@erasorz yeah, he was just a pathetic L, we can only feel sad for such a creature
In regards to lifting the CC:
It goes up and down in 2 seconds. During that time SCVs continue the mining process.
By the time the CC lands all workers are carrying payload and you return them all to mining by boxing them and pressing shift+c.
Having full saturation you have 16 SCVs not mining for less than 2 seconds (some of them continue the process). Each SCV brings in 50 resources per minute.
So 1/30 of 800 means you loose only 27 minerals.
For gas it is much less.
So don't worry about it if it is only one.
If it is 3 and it takes many more seconds then you get, lets say, 162 less resources in total.
(2+4+6 seconds aggregates to 162).
3 marines.
Yeah, no. Even if you only lift 1 CC, you will absolutely not land it and get them back to mining in 2 seconds.
Edit: I looked back at that spot; it takes 4 seconds with just 1 CC, and with his camera already centered on the problem and reacting instantly.
@@Elfis99 So it would be 27 minerals lost if someone forced a bot to lift them.
Unless you have a fourth finished and all SCVs head there to return the minerals/gas. Then you start chasing them on the map to get them to the correct CC. Not fun.
Marc's ravens feels like the good ol' WoL infested terran days :')
25:52 3rd game, seems marc forgor to put timestamp in description :p
"What did i learn from that?....." Not to play subs who know your current X2GM series! =))))
Bangin'!
I am really enjoying the daily updates.
I watch every video all the way through on my lunch break.
Thanks man.
Those Ravens gunning down several bases worth of drones looked so strong. Auto-turrets don't always look that powerful!
I remember a Ketroc game where he had like 4 Ravens left and had to finish off buildings. Took a lot longer than that! LOL!
Haven't found the answer after watching all these raven videos. Why drop the autoturrets behind mineral lines? Instead of right between the cc and the mineral patches?
I'm guessing a worker pull surround will kill the turrets easily?
You can't drop them on top of workers, so there's not a lot of space and it wastes time looking for an opening that you could spend dropping more turrets. The range on them isn't that small.
Thanks for the fun! ^^
I have a question. Are you allowed to make up to 5 marines and a reaper at any time or just once per game. I only ask because you lost 2 at 11:11 but then you have 4 more at 12:17
Really enjoy the X to GM series's.
Poor protoss will have PTRD, Post Traumatic Raven Syndrome.
Ravens are just the greatest unit ever
first not being able to fungal because he boxed a queen in the ling infestor series and now not burrowing a wm because he boxed an scv...when marc figures out you can press tab to cycle through selected units the ladder is in trouble
in the 2nd game where Uthermal accidentally lifts his CC (09:09 - 09:11) how does he make the SCV:s return to their designated task so fast after he landed the CC again?
You can press 'C' for return cargo :)
@@uThermal many thx 🙂
Thank you for this delicious Raven episode again! What a banger again
Really liked this episode! good games
That second game was beautiful! When ravens split and started to drop cannons everywhere, I could just imagine how annoying that would be on the receiving end, so I can see why it went the way it did, and I'm glad you didn't cut out the end
Sometimes I cancel buildings by mistake
39:03: 🤣
love how you started to split your ravens into smaller groups, it seems very difficult for your opponents to deal with. a group of just 5-10 ravens looks devastating as long as they only face minor opposition. and if you attack them at two or three different locations, what are they even supposed to do against it? also you seem to thrive in the chaos as usual =D
Three of the last four losses are on Dynasty as well.
Why is it 5 marines instead of 4?
'Let's pretend I do' .... Lol
Casterlisks to GM. Only units that can cast abilities (queen, infestor, viper) and units ending in lisk (hydra, muta, ultra)
That timestamp makes me love you even more
Why no 1440p anymore? :(
I miss it too but it saves a lot of time in content creation. I'm fine with 1080.
If he couldn't beat the new Ravens, I wonder how many times he got beat by the original Ravens in WoL and HotS?
widow mines are very good against terran late in the game after you kill the starting ravens. very cost effective if u split them... drilling claws is great
I really have not been enjoying Raven/WM and Ling/Infestor series. It seems that if the other player does the right strat then you can't win no matter how you play. No Warp Gate is great and loving that series. Not sure how many people think like me though, I do want to mention that you have made SC2 fun again, so thank you so much for the great content.
Exceed was not a subscriber 😂
🧂🧂🧂
im upset uThermal said 'pack' of ravens instead of 'flock' at around 21:00
The collective noun for a group of ravens is "unkindness".
Game 2 is disgustingly humiliating.
Bring back old Raven please 🙏
Din as tea
I gotta keep reminding myself you're just a troll.
Why don't you just put the lift building hot key on a key that is so far away from the cluster of most used hot keys that the chance of accidentally lifting your command center becomes almost zero? Not done with the episode and don't know if it happens here, but you were ranting about it again.. :)
This might be off-brand for you, but what about a "BM to GM Challenge"? Play random and lie about your race; spam chat; use offensive strats; never type glhf or gg; etc. Could be hilarious, and certainly salty!
No
Off brand is putting it lightly. Marc would never do something like that.
Each to their own I guess but I don't see how being a dick to people is suppose to be fun.
First 🎉
thats cuz zerg got shit anti air and base defense. their best base defense is the queen which is sad
u know why ur struggling? cuz window mines got nerfed