Really shows the difference between those that can ride, and those that could only keep up because they had the leg power. Great! Exactly what was needed!
@@TheTrailRabbitIt’s XCO dude…. Not marathons where it’s 95% fire roads & 5% half assed single track. They need to have courses like this to make a level playing field.
This is exactly what XC needs challenging downhill sections there’s still going to be lots of opportunities to overtake on the uphills! going to be an great I’m going to actually watch the live race with a course like this 🙏🏻
Everyone commenting about how this course finally brings real MTB to XC hasn't been watching for the last few years. It's easy to be tough while sitting on the couch watching youtube, but I doubt that most of these people could make a single lap on any of this year's World Cup tracks.
The 80% of Mtb fans (we are the majority) on Monday work on other issues, so from this route to others of pure mountain there are nuances, but of course this is a show and the gift of money has its share of guilt. Greetings from Spain
right like "cardio" was all you ever needed. might as well just take the best zwifter and put them in XCO since that's all you need. now you can think about how dumb what you typed sounds.
@@DrCrimp-sg5pb I'm not sure I do? While this course has more modern downhill sections, I haven't seen the uphill sections, and those may be like many other courses where the person with the biggest engine that day creates more gaps than anyone will on these downhills. Maybe you've seen this entire course more than I have, but the courses at Nove Mesto, Snowshoe, and Mt. St. Ann are quite technical on their own already.
Never seen an XC course that built in face shattering/collarbone dusting columns between the passing lanes on a rock garden....and cheese grater/skin and muscle ripping cement circles off of log chute landers. Not to mention no 3rd rail at the bottom of that bridge out of a muddy turn so your wheels don't shoot off in between the vertical beams. If any of the trail designers are reading this, it would take less than 2 minutes to take a "baseboard" on that bridge that butts against the tread to catch wheels so they don't shoot off in the dew and mist.
These are supposed to be the elite mountain bikers the world has to offer! Watch some of the recon videos already up on UA-cam… even the average riders are absolutely flying through all of this with no problem. It the riders can’t handle this they shouldn’t be doing World Cup mountain biking.
I guess you've never ridden a real, local mountain bike trail, lol. This is still nothing compared to most local trails, and these are Elite riders, just as many already wrote, it's about real mountain bike skills then who has the most road bike endurance,lol.
This is the most impressive and visual track for now, and it is certenly not easy to ride,but others track are very technical too. Have a look on val die Sole. It is very technical, not by the jumps or steep sections, but there are so many Roots and rocks
Time for dropper posts with more mm's. As well, most coming off the bigger drop in the rock section are almost slamming their front end down. I'm guessing they don't want to sail off of it, but at the same time it looks like they're using their brakes too much or continuing to pedal too close to the edge (they're not getting setup enough).
Simple.. Sit back, knees bent, let the bike do the work. They are so 1 channeled into the perfect single track. Ride here in South Lake Tahoe CA. Usa and you would be schooled. Fact 101..💪
Dropper-posts are a huge game changer, and bigger wheels too. To ask riders to roll off drops like the big one (riders' left) at the top of that rock chute, back in the days of fixed high seatposts and 26" wheels, plus clipped into small pedals, just wouldn't really have been tenable. Not to mention everyone as running 2.1" tyres or narrower then as well! Overall I welcome courses that stretch the riders' technical abilities. I really want to see Pidcock on this one, if he's going to race here.
I would think it would be a good strategy to practice the course for a few laps on a trail bike with some pads to get the timing and lines down before going full lycra send.
Is it still XC? I used to ride the Grundig World Cup 9pre-2000), might be more akin to today's technical gravel skill level, i get it. I am unsure about the direction XC is taking nowadays. Is it interesting? Yes, certainly. I love enduro racing and the Red Bull series too, but this is quite different. It would be akin to setting a downhill time trial in the Tour de France to weed out riders based on technical skills alone. I love XC racing. It should be technical and challenging on the body, but do we need jumps and drops? Not in my opinion. None the less it is great content
Cuando quieres ahorrarte algo de presupuesto y utilizas la misma pista para el dh y xc jajajaja naaa... Fuera de coña, se ve bastante técnico, me gusta🤟🤟
This is a sick course, will favour the real XCO riders who put the time in on the MTB and don’t just sit on the road bike.. I do feel like we might all need a new 140mm XCO bike with new standards on everything by the end of the season.
@@wingtip76No I’m not this proves my point completely. Pidders is one of the best XCO racers and Cyclocross riders in the world , the current XCO Olympic champion … He now rides road as well but without question comes from an off-road background … This type of technical proper off road course is exactly what sorts the real MTB riders from those that are just really fit
@@wingtip76 she has not podiumed in years, yet she’s highlighted more than most of the other XC riders. Including men and the 2 USA girls going to the Olympics. Which is shitty. Why aren’t they backing them more? I don’t get it
Just cancel the cross country world cup and pump the money into EDR, this course is a blur between XC and an enduro stage and im pretty sure you'd get round it quicker on a 170/165 full susser 😂
For one race a year there should be no pre riding of the track allowed. It would be great to see who has the nest natural speed and skills on a course.
The rock drop has no margins of error. This is so unsafe, this would be like having a MotoGp track with 200kmh corners with barries 2 meters from the track. Apparently track builders do not remember Annefleur Kalvenhaar fatal crash in 2014 Meribel World Cup, when she died after hitting a stone with her head after falling from a bridge on the course. Risk is of course part of the game, that doesn't mean that XC should not evolve, and i was actually excited about some features like the jumps introduced in Brazil. Also bikes are improving year by year and they go more and more faster but not protections, riders are always riding basically naked. I'm an Elite XC rider and i've been racing MTB for more than 10 years, do you think riders and team owners are happy to risk a severe injury beacause track builders had the incredible idea of leaving no margin of error on the landing of the drop? Do you think making this rock drop instead of a normal one with dirt on the landing is changing the outcomes of the races?
Honeslty, why not wear pads? They are super light now. You wear rain protection. I seek out stuff like this in SoCal on the XC bike. It is interesting watching Euros adjust to our mountains and soil. Like USA roadies racing in Europe. Either way this is dangerous at race pace. Man made features a little heavy. Wood features dope! Course feedback rough for Montana, this is a first for me that I see this many riders dislike a course. Safety a huge concern with Olympics right there. Brazil is a perfect example of a great course with dope features, but it wont potentially kill you like Montana.😅
Fully agree. An average World Tour rider could get a great result around most of the mild tracks because all the time is made on the climbs, this is proper mountain biking.
I think if I'd made my countries Olympic team for Paris next month I'd pass on this or over bike it. Santa Cruz Hightower on dhrs instead of a blur on gravel tires for sure!
What is this nonsense? Great looking course but doesn't seem fit for XCO. I believe there should be a difference between the disciplines. Maybe this is how XCO evolves.
@@khendricksson I don't suggest to remove the drop, but to avoid adding rocks on the sides as track limits. On motor races obstacles are removed to avoid injuries in case something happens, why not here? They don't race alone, anything can happen if two or more riders come together
@@Naah732 in stead of rocks, they could also use a net to separate the different lines, like the one they use to barrier the course of in most places.
This isen’t Xc, this is a gravity circuit done with with xc bike, and is dangerous without body protection and open helmet, very hard passage for xc, very dangerous part…..it’s spectacular? Yes, as long as no one gets seriously hurt
Technical features in an xc track are great, but this is too much, risking the safety of the riders one month before the Olympics is insane. If fans want this kind of adrenaline, that's what Downhill is for.
@@fili86racefacenot enduro or DH at all lol this is so tame. They’re all on bikes that are capable of this technical riding and it adds difficulty to the track. Nothing fun about a flat/tame track
@@Willy-ig7nw I'm not happy with the path that mountain biking has taken with these new wheel sizes and electric bikes, with these categories mixed just for show
@@khendricksson Lets see you bail off that drop on a 22 lb XC bike, you'll see what risky is all about! I guess you think road biking is not risky, try again.
Two chutes and three boulder walls, dangerous enough without the walls. Not sure of the necessity of this, could lead to a career ending injury or worse.
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Finally an xc course worthy of full suspension and dropper seat posts.
Lucas Schwartbauer still on a rígid post
Totally - sick to see. Creative course design- I'm into it
Really shows the difference between those that can ride, and those that could only keep up because they had the leg power. Great! Exactly what was needed!
"keeping up because they had the leg power" is a bizarre complaint to have about bike racing.
@@TheTrailRabbitIt’s XCO dude…. Not marathons where it’s 95% fire roads & 5% half assed single track. They need to have courses like this to make a level playing field.
:D
I guess fewer road pros will be dropping in to pick up a medal or two during their off-season lol.
@@TheTrailRabbit MTB XC should be about skill, not just being a good climber.
This is exactly what XC needs challenging downhill sections there’s still going to be lots of opportunities to overtake on the uphills! going to be an great I’m going to actually watch the live race with a course like this 🙏🏻
Perfect for Pidcock. 😊
have never watched an XC practice raw...UNTIL this track bc its sick
Finally some mountainbiking! This is going to sort the roadies from the riders!
Who are the roadies?
@@davehause8571 Pidcock for example
what do you say now??😂😂
Assume you're a pro athlete and also racing at a pro level?
Everyone commenting about how this course finally brings real MTB to XC hasn't been watching for the last few years. It's easy to be tough while sitting on the couch watching youtube, but I doubt that most of these people could make a single lap on any of this year's World Cup tracks.
The 80% of Mtb fans (we are the majority) on Monday work on other issues, so from this route to others of pure mountain there are nuances, but of course this is a show and the gift of money has its share of guilt. Greetings from Spain
This is a proper XC course.
Finally the Downcountry bike has a home ! Or is the the birth of CrossEnduro 😂 either way it looks great to me.
Finally some proper mountain biking where not only cardio is necessary to win.
right like "cardio" was all you ever needed. might as well just take the best zwifter and put them in XCO since that's all you need. now you can think about how dumb what you typed sounds.
@@TheTrailRabbit you got my point come on
@@DrCrimp-sg5pb Your point was ridiculous. You must not have seen the last few years of
the World Cup. Most courses are really tough.
@@DrCrimp-sg5pb I'm not sure I do? While this course has more modern downhill sections, I haven't seen the uphill sections, and those may be like many other courses where the person with the biggest engine that day creates more gaps than anyone will on these downhills. Maybe you've seen this entire course more than I have, but the courses at Nove Mesto, Snowshoe, and Mt. St. Ann are quite technical on their own already.
Never seen an XC course that built in face shattering/collarbone dusting columns between the passing lanes on a rock garden....and cheese grater/skin and muscle ripping cement circles off of log chute landers. Not to mention no 3rd rail at the bottom of that bridge out of a muddy turn so your wheels don't shoot off in between the vertical beams. If any of the trail designers are reading this, it would take less than 2 minutes to take a "baseboard" on that bridge that butts against the tread to catch wheels so they don't shoot off in the dew and mist.
until people just take advantage of it and bounce off of it, and suddenly it's not there anymore. surprise!
These are supposed to be the elite mountain bikers the world has to offer! Watch some of the recon videos already up on UA-cam… even the average riders are absolutely flying through all of this with no problem. It the riders can’t handle this they shouldn’t be doing World Cup mountain biking.
I guess you've never ridden a real, local mountain bike trail, lol. This is still nothing compared to most local trails, and these are Elite riders, just as many already wrote, it's about real mountain bike skills then who has the most road bike endurance,lol.
Vai Ulannnnnnnnn..... Valeu Avancini.
Looks fun…on an enduro bike!
This is going to be carnage!!!!
Looks amazing. More courses like this !
Finally XC gets technical. It needs to be otherwise roadies will just show up and win everything cause they are a lot fitter
Yeah, who needs competition...yuck
This is the most impressive and visual track for now, and it is certenly not easy to ride,but others track are very technical too. Have a look on val die Sole. It is very technical, not by the jumps or steep sections, but there are so many Roots and rocks
amazing! More of these raw videos please
This is what make it different with the gravel track
Wes Anderson directed the shot at 12:14
DHXCO 💪
I would love to ride this course…. On my enduro bike 😂
Time for dropper posts with more mm's. As well, most coming off the bigger drop in the rock section are almost slamming their front end down. I'm guessing they don't want to sail off of it, but at the same time it looks like they're using their brakes too much or continuing to pedal too close to the edge (they're not getting setup enough).
The rider in the baggy shorts looked the best off the log drops out of everybody else. His balls could hang loose, letting the breeze in.
Simple..
Sit back, knees bent, let the bike do the work. They are so 1 channeled into the perfect single track.
Ride here in South Lake Tahoe CA. Usa and you would be schooled. Fact 101..💪
Its about time, as more and more XC bikes are comes with 120mm travel as standart and there must be bigger tyres on either.
All the Enduro & Downhill riders are tuning in to watch XC race now, lol.l live seeing riders challenged and the best will still place high
Loved this, I wouldnt have looked at that without some proper protection on my body though. Lol😅 Respect to they guys.
Jeebus some "dirt roadies" are gonna get messed up on this course!
This drop is scary.
Locura, amazing race track, the most technical of the year🔥
Vai Avança!!! 👽🇧🇷
Interesting. I've seen XC racing changing more radical every few years, and I've followed the sport over 3 decades.
Dropper-posts are a huge game changer, and bigger wheels too. To ask riders to roll off drops like the big one (riders' left) at the top of that rock chute, back in the days of fixed high seatposts and 26" wheels, plus clipped into small pedals, just wouldn't really have been tenable. Not to mention everyone as running 2.1" tyres or narrower then as well!
Overall I welcome courses that stretch the riders' technical abilities. I really want to see Pidcock on this one, if he's going to race here.
This makes Mammoth's Kamikaze downhill look tame.
Love to see that! 🤩
This circuit is insane... Hopefully the race is in dry conditions....
Tracks like this will result in me watching XC races, and normally XC is not my thing. Will we see kneepads in an XC race???
you already have downhill and enduro, let XC be XC.
No pads! Just paper thin clothing 💪🔥
@@TheTrailRabbit I didn't ask for this...just saying it'll make me watch.
Love it! This is how cross country should be.
Surely at this course, a dropper would be a big advantage.
This is the UCI XCO Hardline version 😅
I would think it would be a good strategy to practice the course for a few laps on a trail bike with some pads to get the timing and lines down before going full lycra send.
la hardline du cross country! :)
Is it still XC? I used to ride the Grundig World Cup 9pre-2000), might be more akin to today's technical gravel skill level, i get it.
I am unsure about the direction XC is taking nowadays. Is it interesting? Yes, certainly. I love enduro racing and the Red Bull series too, but this is quite different.
It would be akin to setting a downhill time trial in the Tour de France to weed out riders based on technical skills alone.
I love XC racing. It should be technical and challenging on the body, but do we need jumps and drops? Not in my opinion.
None the less it is great content
Olé.... 🚴🇪🇦👌🏻
Downhill guys looking at this course like 🥳🥳😂😂
Cuando quieres ahorrarte algo de presupuesto y utilizas la misma pista para el dh y xc jajajaja naaa... Fuera de coña, se ve bastante técnico, me gusta🤟🤟
Amazing work was done to build such a cool track ❤ I wish to try those down+plus stone sections noy sure for up ones 😂
This is a sick course, will favour the real XCO riders who put the time in on the MTB and don’t just sit on the road bike..
I do feel like we might all need a new 140mm XCO bike with new standards on everything by the end of the season.
Yeah, well, you're wrong look who won😂😂
@@wingtip76No I’m not this proves my point completely. Pidders is one of the best XCO racers and Cyclocross riders in the world , the current XCO Olympic champion … He now rides road as well but without question comes from an off-road background … This type of technical proper off road course is exactly what sorts the real MTB riders from those that are just really fit
It seems as though it would make sense to wear pads during practice.
Hit it Sammy Maxwell!!! 🤘
I’ll remember this as the day XC needs Fullface
Looks like a DH course from 25yrs ago.
Surprised that rock drop didn't look as difficult as I imagined
The camera loves Kate Courtney
And that's all she's good for.
@@wingtip76 she has not podiumed in years, yet she’s highlighted more than most of the other XC riders. Including men and the 2 USA girls going to the Olympics. Which is shitty. Why aren’t they backing them more? I don’t get it
Avancini analisando as linhas 🇧🇷
This is CRAS-shsses MONTANA. ✌️✌️💪💪💪🙌🙌🙌😁😁😁
I would just put on some pads for practice. They aren’t even that uncomfortable to wear
Please show the interesting uphill sections of track.
🤣
PFP sitting this one out to or maybe another blood transfusion this week.
Just cancel the cross country world cup and pump the money into EDR, this course is a blur between XC and an enduro stage and im pretty sure you'd get round it quicker on a 170/165 full susser 😂
Time for some riser bars on the xc bike
OK lo spettacolo ma bisogna pensare alla sicurezza dei piloti
xc che diventa enduro e gli voglio pure fare montare le gomme da 2.50
Man, these rocks scare the shit out of me
why nobody does proper drops... whyyyyy??
Would love to see how a World Cup Enduro rider handles it.
with eyes closed. its easy
@@emveeess839 agree
For one race a year there should be no pre riding of the track allowed. It would be great to see who has the nest natural speed and skills on a course.
Quanto que eles faz a média de velocidade
The rock drop has no margins of error. This is so unsafe, this would be like having a MotoGp track with 200kmh corners with barries 2 meters from the track. Apparently track builders do not remember Annefleur Kalvenhaar fatal crash in 2014 Meribel World Cup, when she died after hitting a stone with her head after falling from a bridge on the course.
Risk is of course part of the game, that doesn't mean that XC should not evolve, and i was actually excited about some features like the jumps introduced in Brazil. Also bikes are improving year by year and they go more and more faster but not protections, riders are always riding basically naked.
I'm an Elite XC rider and i've been racing MTB for more than 10 years, do you think riders and team owners are happy to risk a severe injury beacause track builders had the incredible idea of leaving no margin of error on the landing of the drop? Do you think making this rock drop instead of a normal one with dirt on the landing is changing the outcomes of the races?
The former roadies jumping over to XC racing are crapping their bibs.
You can tell a lot of them have roadie backgrounds, and have not invested in a decent a technique coach!
I guess not 😂😂
@@zwtvchannel it sucks to be you now😂
Someone from uci should make a lap maybe?😮
Haha, Puck with the knee protectors is *prepared*
Honeslty, why not wear pads? They are super light now. You wear rain protection. I seek out stuff like this in SoCal on the XC bike. It is interesting watching Euros adjust to our mountains and soil. Like USA roadies racing in Europe. Either way this is dangerous at race pace. Man made features a little heavy. Wood features dope! Course feedback rough for Montana, this is a first for me that I see this many riders dislike a course. Safety a huge concern with Olympics right there.
Brazil is a perfect example of a great course with dope features, but it wont potentially kill you like Montana.😅
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I wish I was able to watch the actual race and ot have to wait for 6 mins of highlights....
Whats with the photo shopped bike in the cover photo? Handlebars are turned lol
Great track.
Without technical features, XC is just Cyclocross...
nahhh plenty of natural features to make things trickier than cyclocross are there too.
Fully agree. An average World Tour rider could get a great result around most of the mild tracks because all the time is made on the climbs, this is proper mountain biking.
All those rocks and strange looking logs sections... bah. Also, a lot of the riders are so stiff that their necks are going to break.
Enjoying the drop bars boys? xD
Hope it will rain, would be funny i think
Crash-Montana at the beginning
I think if I'd made my countries Olympic team for Paris next month I'd pass on this or over bike it. Santa Cruz Hightower on dhrs instead of a blur on gravel tires for sure!
Next: suspension abuse xco version
Con flight attendant es muy fácil 😏
Is it XC Course? ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
The real name for this track should be CRASH-MONTANA.. I can’t wait to watch the race
What is this nonsense? Great looking course but doesn't seem fit for XCO. I believe there should be a difference between the disciplines. Maybe this is how XCO evolves.
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I don't see the point of having a lot of big and dangerous rocks on the sides of a difficult drop, seems just a totally useless added danger
It's a world cup. That shouldn't be a difficult drop for anyone racing in the world cup. Back to road racing if that's too difficult or dangerous.
@@khendrickssonThat's ignorance. There are more cyclists who died in road racing than any other cycling sport.
@@khendricksson I don't suggest to remove the drop, but to avoid adding rocks on the sides as track limits. On motor races obstacles are removed to avoid injuries in case something happens, why not here? They don't race alone, anything can happen if two or more riders come together
@@TommasoVisconti then someone like nino will just jump on that clear path without the rocks on the side sand the whole point of this drop is useless
@@Naah732 in stead of rocks, they could also use a net to separate the different lines, like the one they use to barrier the course of in most places.
Puck wearing knee pads!
This isen’t Xc, this is a gravity circuit done with with xc bike, and is dangerous without body protection and open helmet, very hard passage for xc, very dangerous part…..it’s spectacular? Yes, as long as no one gets seriously hurt
Technical features in an xc track are great, but this is too much, risking the safety of the riders one month before the Olympics is insane. If fans want this kind of adrenaline, that's what Downhill is for.
Risky only for roadies. If this is difficult enough to be risky they should go road biking.
stop doing enduro with xc bikes
@@fili86racefacenot enduro or DH at all lol this is so tame. They’re all on bikes that are capable of this technical riding and it adds difficulty to the track. Nothing fun about a flat/tame track
@@Willy-ig7nw I'm not happy with the path that mountain biking has taken with these new wheel sizes and electric bikes, with these categories mixed just for show
@@khendricksson Lets see you bail off that drop on a 22 lb XC bike, you'll see what risky is all about! I guess you think road biking is not risky, try again.
People on here reacting like it’s RedBull Hardline 🙄
I’m pretty sure some of these people should just be watching CX or Road riding! This track looks amazing!
Well... that's just mountainbike.
Trek xc kaya begitu😢
Dudes on Pinkbike will say you need an enduro bike at minimum for this kind of track and defend their point to the death.
Xc should start wearing full face helmets 😂
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Two chutes and three boulder walls, dangerous enough without the walls. Not sure of the necessity of this, could lead to a career ending injury or worse.
Cutting Carbon bars with no face protection? No thanks.
Это эндуро а не кросскантри
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Another sad course that puts spectacle before safety. XC should be an endurance race, not an obstacle course.
That called road racing buddy.
Guy, this course is sick.
Very risky course
So so dangerous! So many crash... 😢