Hi John, another great video as ever. The Roti/New Inn pub was also a Blockbuster video shop for a time between the 2 changes of use you mention. Don’t recall the dates but no more than a few years. Also the Pheasant and Cock pub had another name when I lived in the maisonette building just behind the shops at the top of Bracondale from 1976 onwards but again I can’t remember the name. It became offices when it closed down and was a Norfolk County Council office for a while as I supported the IT there several times.
Back in 1980 I worked in that modern-looking office block shown to the right at 4'31". I can remember that the older buildings shown in the centre of the picture was being used to store amusement-arcade machines. It must have been a lucrative business because the presumed owners of those machines always turned up in very expensive cars,
Another fascinating video John. like others I was amazed at the Sainsbury,s section, I had no idea there was a station there and it existed in my time in Norwich. again thanks, looking forward to the next
Another very interesting video. I really appreciated your depth of research and your ability to source all those wonderful old photographs. I have a question...do you know why the Brazen Gate was so named?
@@theoloyla I seem to have had problems posting a reply. Let's try again! Thanks for pointing me in this direction. I see that brazen is described as an archaic word meaning made of brass.
The picture at 4.26, which you state is probably late 1970s. The bus is a Bristol VR, which were new in 1970, and running on route 82. The route numbers changed in roundabout 1973, so I would say the image dated from between 1970 and 1973. Nice to see an old National service station!
As always thank you John. Your videos always manage to answer at least one question that's been burning in my mind for a long time. In this video it's the construction of the walkway of Sainsbury's which had always been a puzzle for me. I'd no idea that the store was built upon the site of a railway station. Thanks to all your hard work my next visit to Sainsbury's will involve a slow walk along Queen's Road in order to drink in all the history.
Very interesting and informative video once again. I love seeing how my adopted city looked in the past. Thank you for the work you put put in producing these wonderful local history tours.
5:10 - the row of terraced houses ajoining the white former pub on the corner. I remember being driven past the houses in the 1980s and the windows were all boarded up. I think they were brought back into residential use in the 1990s.
Thanks John interesting as always. When i was younger i can remember walking down Queens Rd often the old Pheasant and cock was always full of away supporters on match days
the houses on queens road near the bus staion were not demolished in 1962 but a lot later as i was born in 1966 and lived in one,, i lived at no 58 queens road just down from the lame dog pub
I remember in the 80s the by then disused old railway coal yard had a particularly beautiful signal house with all the levers still installed, sad to see that go
Love your videos. Great to see back in time at so many familiar places. Everything just seemed so much better then, in terms of life, the look of buildings and just the overall feel of how things once were. Nowadays, most of the city is very sadly, a bit grim and devoid of any feeling. I'm 34 and I always think "I remember this when it was [something else]". Lots of changes, but not for the better.
Thanks very much for your comment. I'm not sure that it was always better, but I feel that there's a lot of pride shown in some of the old photos, which sadly today isn't shown in certain parts of the city.
Hi John,great video again,such a shame that a lot of those character houses were pulled down,I remember going into the Lame Dog pub as a young underage drinker,the lady who served me was a neighbour from our previous house on Barn Road! She knew I was underage but let me have three halves of mild to save my face! The Pheasant Cock was a very lively pub on a match day!
my Great Grand mother owned the house opposite the petrol station (now sainsburys petrol station) compulsory purchased for peanuts to widen queens road
I'm one of these 'silent' subscribers- look and don't comment. I have never been to Norwich and sometimes find it hard to say smething 'new' after running out of 'nice video John, thanks for sharing'. I love all things UK as far as history, humour, landscapes and like in this channel, learning about the lay of the land so to speak. Keep it up John as many enjoy your dedication. Have a great week. Happy days. 😎🇳🇱🙋♀🇳🇿 👌
Thank you so much Anita that's such a kind and thoughtful comment. I agree, it can be difficult to say something new, especially if you have not been to Norwich, but I really appreciate you watching the videos. Hope you're keeping well!
Great video John! Any idea what the building which now houses the Namaste Indian restaurant originally was? It looks like it may have been a chapel of some kind, but that would put it right beside another - St Francis house. It’s always seemed a little odd to have them next to each other like that.
The building now the Namaste restaurant was the Sunday school for the Methodist Chapel. The Sunday school was originally in basement of the Chapel but was dark and very over crowded so in 1887 they built a separate building next door. The main Chapel was built in 1872.
Happy memories thanks John. Mind well of many of the early 60s photos. My dad's parents and siblings lived on Queen's Road at some point. One thing, I've never understood why the bus station was built on a hill; the only one I'm aware of - ! 😅
Another really excellent video John
Thank you Harry!
Thank you, John.
Another interesting video.
The usual wonderful mix of “I know that” and “That’s news to me”.
Take care and keep up the great work.
Thanks Adrian - that's a reassuring mix!
Hi John, another great video as ever. The Roti/New Inn pub was also a Blockbuster video shop for a time between the 2 changes of use you mention. Don’t recall the dates but no more than a few years. Also the Pheasant and Cock pub had another name when I lived in the maisonette building just behind the shops at the top of Bracondale from 1976 onwards but again I can’t remember the name. It became offices when it closed down and was a Norfolk County Council office for a while as I supported the IT there several times.
Hi Stuart, thanks for your comment and for adding those details. I had no idea about these facts!
Back in 1980 I worked in that modern-looking office block shown to the right at 4'31". I can remember that the older buildings shown in the centre of the picture was being used to store amusement-arcade machines. It must have been a lucrative business because the presumed owners of those machines always turned up in very expensive cars,
Thanks for that, a fascinating detail! I've not heard that before.
Another fascinating video John. like others I was amazed at the Sainsbury,s section, I had no idea there was a station there and it existed in my time in Norwich. again thanks, looking forward to the next
Thanks very much Dave, I'm glad you found it so interesting.
An excellent video as always. The gentlemen at the petrol station was my grandad who ran it.
That's really great, thanks so much!
Another masterpiece John. Many thanks.
Thanks very much, Kevin, though I think "masterpiece" might be overstating it!
Another very interesting video. I really appreciated your depth of research and your ability to source all those wonderful old photographs. I have a question...do you know why the Brazen Gate was so named?
It was named after the Brazen Door into the city wall at that point, but I don't know how that got its name.
@@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich not certain but I think a "brazen gate" was a wooden gate clad in brass
@@theoloyla I seem to have had problems posting a reply. Let's try again! Thanks for pointing me in this direction. I see that brazen is described as an archaic word meaning made of brass.
@@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich Yep hence the saying "as bold as brass" and describing someone bold as "brazen"
@@theoloyla that's great, it all makes sense now!
The picture at 4.26, which you state is probably late 1970s. The bus is a Bristol VR, which were new in 1970, and running on route 82. The route numbers changed in roundabout 1973, so I would say the image dated from between 1970 and 1973. Nice to see an old National service station!
Thank you very much for adding that detail - it all helps to complete the picture!
As always thank you John. Your videos always manage to answer at least one question that's been burning in my mind for a long time. In this video it's the construction of the walkway of Sainsbury's which had always been a puzzle for me. I'd no idea that the store was built upon the site of a railway station. Thanks to all your hard work my next visit to Sainsbury's will involve a slow walk along Queen's Road in order to drink in all the history.
Thanks Peter...the actual station was where Victoria House is, and Sainsbury's site was a station yard.
Very interesting and informative video once again. I love seeing how my adopted city looked in the past. Thank you for the work you put put in producing these wonderful local history tours.
and thank you very much for your kind comment!
5:10 - the row of terraced houses ajoining the white former pub on the corner. I remember being driven past the houses in the 1980s and the windows were all boarded up. I think they were brought back into residential use in the 1990s.
I don't know the date but I seem to recall they were all redeveloped and brought into use around the same time.
Thanks John interesting as always.
When i was younger i can remember walking down Queens Rd often the old Pheasant and cock was always full of away supporters on match days
Ah that's interesting, I always thought they were shepherded to the Clarence Harbour. Good to know they had an alternative!
The Pheasant Cock pub had a large clock above the front door and I could always see if was late for school when I attended the Hewett, back in 1959.
Wonderful detail, thank you!
Great video John but it's a pity you didn't mention the pleasure gardens that occupied the Victoria Station grounds before the station did.
Thanks - I wished I'd researched that a bit more, though I guess it may have predated photos!
the houses on queens road near the bus staion were not demolished in 1962 but a lot later as i was born in 1966 and lived in one,, i lived at no 58 queens road just down from the lame dog pub
Thanks, that photo dated from 1962, I agree that demolition was some time afterwards, and from what you say, some considerable time afterwards.
Love it when a Lost Norwich vid lands. I played on the Lakenham cricket ground - albeit only as a clubbie
Thank you - have you seen this video? ua-cam.com/video/bVyurFLHvwc/v-deo.html
I remember in the 80s the by then disused old railway coal yard had a particularly beautiful signal house with all the levers still installed, sad to see that go
Thanks very much for adding that detail.
Love your videos. Great to see back in time at so many familiar places. Everything just seemed so much better then, in terms of life, the look of buildings and just the overall feel of how things once were. Nowadays, most of the city is very sadly, a bit grim and devoid of any feeling. I'm 34 and I always think "I remember this when it was [something else]". Lots of changes, but not for the better.
Thanks very much for your comment. I'm not sure that it was always better, but I feel that there's a lot of pride shown in some of the old photos, which sadly today isn't shown in certain parts of the city.
Hi John,great video again,such a shame that a lot of those character houses were pulled down,I remember going into the Lame Dog pub as a young underage drinker,the lady who served me was a neighbour from our previous house on Barn Road! She knew I was underage but let me have three halves of mild to save my face! The Pheasant Cock was a very lively pub on a match day!
Great additional details, thanks very much 👍
Nice one, John. Being a resident of this area it's very interesting to see these old photos.
Hi Richard, thanks, I'm glad you found it interesting.
Excellent as usual. Thank you.
Thanks, glad you liked it.
Sad to see so many buildings gone
very true, thanks for commenting.
my Great Grand mother owned the house opposite the petrol station (now sainsburys petrol station) compulsory purchased for peanuts to widen queens road
Thanks very much for explaining how that happened.
apparently the garden wall for her house still exists as part of the carpark@@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich
@@gregsayer7218 that's interesting, I didn't notice the wall. I'll search it out next time I'm down that way.
I'm one of these 'silent' subscribers- look and don't comment. I have never been to Norwich and sometimes find it hard to say smething 'new' after running out of 'nice video John, thanks for sharing'. I love all things UK as far as history, humour, landscapes and like in this channel, learning about the lay of the land so to speak. Keep it up John as many enjoy your dedication. Have a great week. Happy days. 😎🇳🇱🙋♀🇳🇿 👌
Thank you so much Anita that's such a kind and thoughtful comment. I agree, it can be difficult to say something new, especially if you have not been to Norwich, but I really appreciate you watching the videos. Hope you're keeping well!
Great video John! Any idea what the building which now houses the Namaste Indian restaurant originally was? It looks like it may have been a chapel of some kind, but that would put it right beside another - St Francis house. It’s always seemed a little odd to have them next to each other like that.
Thank you. I believe (as I have just read it on their website!) that it was a Methodist Church, Carpet Shop and Gym.
The building now the Namaste restaurant was the Sunday school for the Methodist Chapel. The Sunday school was originally in basement of the Chapel but was dark and very over crowded so in 1887 they built a separate building next door. The main Chapel was built in 1872.
@@chrislawn6158 Thanks Chris. It’s a grand building for a Sunday school. I wonder what the internal balcony was built for - any idea?
Not sure why balcony was built, maybe so they could accommodate even more people. Rooms led off the central area on both levels.
@@chrislawn6158 Thanks Chris. It’s a lovely building and Namaste have made good use of the architecture.
Thank you for yet another informative video. Beautiful photography, clear narration and lots of local history.
Thanks very much for your kind comment. I'm glad you found it interesting.
Interesting and informative as ever. Love these comparison videos. Always a pleasure to see a new one uploaded.
Glad you like them!
Happy memories thanks John. Mind well of many of the early 60s photos. My dad's parents and siblings lived on Queen's Road at some point.
One thing, I've never understood why the bus station was built on a hill; the only one I'm aware of - ! 😅
Thanks Simon. Yes that's an interesting thought about the bus station! I'm sure I read somewhere how that location came up, but can't remember where!
@@JohnAtkinsLostNorwich I believe at the time, that Norwich Union owned the land and may still do. So whether that had anything to do with it - ! 😁
@@simongee8928ah, yes you could be right.