@@norabeckwith6893 CA needs to be called out & I don't think I've seen anyone being wrongly accused of CA. Many idols have done it & were rightfully called out for it but they should be criticized for it instead of being hated on.
Seventeen do be having the most comforting songs. Like one of the biggest reasons why they're my ults. Their music feels so cozy and soothing. Love them sm.
SKZ have been switching it up since debut. people need to stop judging them by title tracks alone. I want nothing more from them cuz I know they will deliver regardless of what genre they do
Yes! They have over a 100 songs and all of them are so different, even ODDINARY and MAXIDENT was different and their Japanese comebacks are different they will always switch it up and even a lot of their title tracks aren’t the same
Personally, stray kids always do something different. I couldn’t ask for anything else from them. LIKE THEY GOT DRILL, THEY HAVE POP, THEY HAVE RAP, BALLADS, AND LIKE A MILLION OTHER TYPES OF SONGS THAT I CANT THINK OF RN. Soooo what more do you want? Edit: I just remembered they did time out with which gave me such nostalgia from the pop rock days lol
11:06 in my opinion everything skz does is switching it up fr. plus, they create their own music which can't be said for the VAST MAJORITY of the industry. they found their sound but also manage to make different things. stray kids gets more popular by the minute so clearly what they do works and isn't boring
ATEEZ & especially SKZ r what I'd call "NOISE MUSIC DONE RIGHT" unlike most noise genre songs which sound messy af with a bunch of stuff randomly thrown here & there. Ateez is "THAT" group imo. I can hardly point out anything they lack at...be it musical quality, dancing skills, vocal stability, stage presence, personality, etc. U name it they have it. Ateez r seriously so unique from their sound to their personality to their dancing & stage presence. They keep doing a different concept every comeback without losing their signature sound. For the skz one, I didn't enjoy maxident era as much as their previous eras maybe because I became a stay during maniac era & I freaking loved maniac. But after following their discography, I don't think they need to switch any thing up cuz that's what they always do since debut.
I couldn't disagree more with the "Ateez is not unique anymore" Guerrilla and Halazia are so different, it's a completely new sound if you compare it to the general boy group music that's coming out nowadays
Quite literally. Whenever they have a new release, it sounds nothing like the previous one. I think people think so because, understandably, it's their songs so all the songs will have that 'feeling' that makes them uniquely SKZ. Especially since they do their own music.
Stray kids have been switching it up, yes it has their signature on it especially with music but it doesn’t sound the same. A lot of their title tracks are different and has the energy of SKZ but that doesn’t mean they are getting boring. Case 143 is different from Maniac Maniac is different from thunderous thunderous is different from back door and so on. They explore a lot of genres and will continue to switch it up even with new comebacks but I kind of disagree with TXT being the standard when it comes to charts they are breaking like it’s great that for over 2 million copies but that doesn’t mean that they are the standard for records breaking
Also for the TXT thing I’m not saying it’s a fact I just think a lot of us have different ideas and definitions when it comes to what the standard is for KPOP (and I’m not shitting on their progress either) I think when we say “this group is the standard” it’s because that group is our favorite and ofc we are gonna hold them high up then the rest the boys are great but it depends now on what you mean by standards and what kind of standards
30:57 this person mustn't have seen the8 and GD with mullets ( especially the8 + glasses sjakjsbkj i'm not over that look) I mean Hongjoong looks amazing with a mullet, but its definitely not just him, i'm sure there are many others i just cant think of any rn
For sentance 23(skz one) as a stay skz make amazing music and the dedication they put towards making songs is amazing!! Skz have covered nearly every genre and can cover more, stray kids have different genres and change it up in almost every album or single they realise!! I personally think skz can keep their currents songs as it is and work on similar songs in the future.
My Kpop Opinions 1. There are idols in it for the money aspect of things because they see successful groups and more often than not once they are idols themselves will end up having scandals and be forced to leave the industry anyways. 2. Most fans who dislike a group or artist will do so based on the title track and not even listen to an album 3. Autotune is subjective. If you like it, that's fine, if you don't that's fine too. An artist doesn't become untalented for using it. 4. It's 2023 and I am so sick of how powerful rumours are and how easy it is to destroy an idols career based off of them. 5. It's okay to fall out of love with a group or artist's music, it isn't because they haven't changed but because you have grown tired of their signature sound 6. Keeping up with every idols variety show is tiring tbh same thing with Vlives 7. You can like a group without having to compare them with another artist and still like them 8. Thinking an artist or group is overrated does not make them a bad artist, they're just popular 9. Artists from smaller companies are unlikely to become popular and stày popular 10. The Big 3's most popular artists don't define the entirety of the music they make and the artists they have under their label 11. We won't stop having controversies on clothing, music videos and statements that are offensive to someone. Not only because they are valid, invalid or blown out of proportion but because in the company and artist's mind they will always be promoting to the Korean audience and this audience isn't too concerned with these ideals unless it's a way to drag the artist or offends them personally
I definitely don't agree with their Stray Kids opinion coz they literally have songs of so many genres.. Ppl should stop judging their whole discography with just their TTs also even their TTs dont have the same kinda music they just have that SKZ element. ..They will make whatever songs they want supporting it or not is the fan's choice.. Ppl might not like it and thats okay tbh.. they did change it up with their TTs with Case 143.. They can have their own opinions tho I aint gonna go attack ppl for that.. Edit: Kpop fans say that *insert kpop grp* has that element in their songs which makes them *insert kpop grp* only if its their favs.. If its any other grps then its repetitive apparently..
Literally, like the fact that skz switches up constantly and is always trying new things is one of the things that ppl don’t like about them, but now ppl r telling them to switch it up as if they haven’t been doing that since debut💀. Like obviously skz will always have a distinct sound, but it’s always done different in every song. I can’t think of any skz songs that sound the same as each other
Right for the Pearson it sounds simulera because her favs don’t make they own music maybe time to time and when you listen to skz you just know it’s skz because they do their music
I disagree so much with “Ateez not being unique”. Ateez has such a distinguished and their very own sound. Like they have so many genres and they really experiment a lot with their music, but it really works. In my opinion Ateez has a sound in their music in which you can just know it’s their music. Like I can’t think of any group that has the same sound or a similar sound to Ateez. For example we have “hala hala”, “wonderland”, “pirate king”, “the real”, “halazia”, “deja vu”, “thanxx”, “answer” and many more and no other group sound like Ateez. They incorporate a lot of different instruments, for example in “the real” in the dance break and also some orchestra and opera like for example in “answer”. They show us so many different sides of them and nobody does it like them. they’re literally a great example of uniqueness.
Txt really are the standards, amazing vocals, dance, visual, personality, discography, fandom Also temptation album sold 2.16 million copies (if I’m not wrong) and they’ve been smashing charts and records EVERYWHERE
I think some of the stuff can be explained by the year. Saying Red Velvet probably won't be able to do anything new, SKZ being repetitive and Ateez being generic especially were all before their 2022 releases. Same with all of the opinions, those just stuck out to me because they were definitely disproving since the video released
some stuff she said is true, some is biased, and Ateez is definetely not becoming basic or like any other group. And Sebastine is funny af when drinking, not @ him thinking people talk sh-t about him because youtubers are mentioned. Sebastine, if you read this. you are really refreshing, very authentic and - as for me - I don`t think you are disrespectful to anyone. ly
co-ed groups though- i want to be in a co-ed group. like fr. im starting vocal and dance training next semester and im already learning Korean and im saving up money to move to Korea and live with my cousin over there. i seriously want to be in a kpop co-ed group. i just don't want to be the leader though bc thats a little too much for me. i wouldn't be a good leader so i wouldn't wanna put that kinda stress on anyone. anyway i hope no one reads this whole thing lol
You've come so far from your first bts reaction hehehehe.. I've been subbed since then and your growth from that to now being a multi stan is great. Wishing you more growth to your channel..
Honestly, I think Antis of any group are more obsessed than the actual fandoms for the groups. Like why spend all that energy and money on something you absolutely don't like, and instead, be happy and support the things you actually do like/enjoy.
X me out though. I don’t stan BTS, I’m not an ARMY. But I’m in no way obsessed with them. I support them, and I think they are incredible, but I’m not obsessed.
@@user_co3hta018 I think it should be changed to “haters” and not non- ARMYS. There are a lot of non- ARMYS who don’t even give a crap about BTS.. some don’t even know they exist.
@@Mochiskz143 IDC abt what u think, u cared enough to make two whole comments saying how u don't care about BTS while talking about bts tho, and people on the internet who say they "don't care" actually care the most lol
@@user_co3hta018 why the fuck do y’all like causing drama? Just because someone says they don’t care about BTS, doesn’t mean they are fcking obsessed with them. I love what they did, they are incredible, and I appreciate what they did. But if I was obsessed with them, I would say I hate them, then continue to stalk their every move. Also, why the fuck did you have to go on my account and say rude shit on my videos. ARMYS are Literally one of the most toxic fandoms, and can’t just take that as a fact, and the truth.
To be honest, SKZ has one of the unique genres. They do and experiment with their songs, they explore with their music! I disagree with #23 tsk tsk smh.
We all know that when you watch a reaction video, the reactors who force themselves are very easy to spot. They put an arrow in the thumbnail that's not pointing to anything or someone who didnt do much in the video, when they react to the song, they don't comment on the lyrics. They look bored the entire time and do other things while not listening to the songs. Their thumbnails are making faces that people who love the group didn't even make when they watched it. Vocal coaches who don't comment on the production on the voice or the vocal technique. Dancers are more likely gonna talk about dance than the music and I think that's fine. But overall, there are def people who don't actually give the song a chance or genuinely don't like it but instead of just saying it's not their type of song, they say "its 10/10 for me" and ask for suggestions to grab the views from that Fandom. Veteran kpop reactors will def say it but newer ones don't wanna ruffle feathers and wanna keep Fandom clicking on their stuff
No I kinda see what they were saying on the ateez and skz opinions but I think it was worded poorly and not really explained. I think it's because ateez and skz are super popular in the west and companies are taking notes from them and trying to recreate their own versions of skz and ateez. no company was trying to create such strong dance/all rounder groups until ateez and skz debuted. no one (besides sm) was trying to create the unique music that ateez and skz do until they got more popular in the west. (ofc bts and their huge impact on the west bringing eyes to kpop lead to the uprising of ateez and skz. this comment is mostly about ateez and skz though but we can take time to thank bts) now that almost every company especially nugu companies are trying to appeal to the western market they take inspo from ateez and skz. so it makes it seem like ateez and skz aren't unique because the concept and sounds they made popular are being made for other artists. making it seem like everyone is doing it so ateez and skz aren't unique. I used to be a fan of both ateez and skz and I remember distinctly when ateez and skz got popular suddenly an influx of dance, performance, and rap heavy bgs with dark concepts started debuting. I remember when Wonderland by ateez dropped and the waves it made over the industry can still be seen today. for skz their most influential comeback is hard to pinpoint because it's kind of all of their comeback lmao but if I had to pick top two I'd pick god's menu and thunderous as they are the most recent and most recognizable examples.
"now that almost every company especially nugu companies are trying to appeal to the Western market" I think this is true since Skz blew up internationally a lot and Ateez as well especially in the West. I think Atz, Skz Dreamcatcher were the proof nugu/small companies needed to try to appeal more than just the Korean market/not fully focus on the Korean market. I read in some comments that Ateez are the group that give hope to nugu groups of blowing up in the west because despite not coming from a medium or big company Ateez became the Best selling non big4(I'm talking about the biggest entertainment companies not the founders of Kpop) and in 2022 went on 2 world tours selling out major cities and even had to double the concert dates in those cities due to the demand. Atz are going to have their Asian part of their 2022 Break That Wall world tour also visiting major Asian cities for two days each. I still consider Ateez unique because me personally I haven't heard of a bg group have songs like Guerrilla, Halazia, Turbulence, inception, Wave, Wonderland and Deja Vu all under their belt and execute them like Atz did yet somehow you would be like "Yup this is an Ateez song"
wouldn’t be a kpop video if a kpop stan wasn’t shitting on skz and talking down on em!!! the agenda of ppl speaking on them while knowing absolutely nothing continues. the hate train is so forced for most people.
13:13 The looks is just a Bonus. Just like in Newjeans, i really love their song, I WILL CROSSING HEAVENS FOR THEIR CREEPY MV... their MV are top notch. Their vocals ARE INSANE. And BUNNIES
i have literally never heard of someone stanning a group just because of their visuals like maybe im out of the loop or wtv but i feel like thats just a rumor fans made up or something to start unnecessary arguments because absolutely NO ONE is doing that😭😭
I was chilling until I heard "Just right by got7 is the wrost song"... I feel Offended! lol I used to be obssessed with that song! And seb you're really nice, and anyone that's hate on you was just prob mad at you spitting truth.
No one is more arrogant than those that have "BTS only" in their twt bios, yes, I just said that. You can be proud of their achievements and you being part of them, but being proud shouldn't be a shield to belittle others, to call anyone else and their mothers a fl0p and feel satisfied that you just did that because you're protected by a screen, that's cyberbull***. I do support BTS, they are a great group, and I do accept that they are indeed very popular and famous (good for them), but, some of their most hardcore fans need to chill. That's more than one sentence, sorry.
I would say that for both bts and blackpink!! The way non armies and non blinks are obsessed with them is just insane.. Like they even know everything that sometimes we armies and blinks don't know!! Like damn girl just accept that you love them lol!! As for the Jisoo one she is just overhyped by blinks and very underrated in the eyes of other antis!! Like she is doing a pretty good job in blackpink.. She is not as bad as antis claim and not as good as blinks claim.. Vocally she's even interchangeable with Lisa!! Like if Lisa develops in her vocal and starts to support she is gonna surpass Jisoo!! But the most imp thing is that her vocal binds up blackpink's songs!! And also she is consistent with her performance too and yeah one thing is that she has definitely improved in her sp!! You can't change my mind about that!! Cry for me is the best twice song for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YES CRY FOR ME IS ICONIC HATERS CAN GO CRY!!! Also l have never agreed with a comment talking about Jisoo than now. Fans should stop overhyping her when its not necessary and haters need to shut tf up
Considering skz has more the 40 different genres of music in their Discography, they have their own sound but all they do is experiment and switch it up all the time
It's been so long since I listened to Ateez songs and then suddenly heard bouncy one day and my first thought was that it's very unique to ateez, like if i'd heard the demo and had to choose a group for the song I'd probably go for ateez, so i did not get the them turning into a normal group one 💀
"I hate noise music". This is how u can tell what this person never listened to rock music and always fallowing the pop trends. Person who enjoys calm, chill mb classical music would never hate music, they will tell u "oh its just not my thing".
28:39 I literally shouted “WHAT?!”. Cause just right by got7 was the song that I always sang with my friends when we all first got into kpop in like 5th or 6th grade. It’s just a cute song
real talk. I live in the Caribbean and they had brought the bts movie out ( I can't remember the name but it was in 2018) and i was a fairly new kpop fan. anyways long story short i met 2 of my best friends that night and we were recapping that night on how we met for the first time and my friend was like i'm glad i met you cause army's around here are like deadass worshiping bts. There was even a girl who was bowing on her knees in front of the screen and i was o.O.
33:35 I agree with the Jessi speil you went on... I am a very quiet person and people like Jessi who are loud can get very annoying very fast. I too didn't like her initially bc of that but she really grew on me. Even though I didn't watch it, when she got replaced on Showterview, I felt like that was a very bad decision. She was the life ofthat show. Watching those clips was so fun.😂💜
Yep and then saying TXT is standards with charts and records like it’s good that got over 2 million copies but that doesn’t mean they are the standard-
6:30 is it bad I pray FOR them, bc i have prayers like "protect *idol* while in the military" or praying for them when they are in hard times (sasaengs, death, etc...). Please don't take this as a rude way, just actually curious bc if it is I can stop.
another kpop opinion is there is a certain fandom out there who kept saying that non fans are more obsessed with their faves but its actually bcs of THEIR fandom ALWAYS provoking other fandoms. like girl, can they not see how toxic their fandom is lmao
i agree that superm was unnecessary bc it was advertised so much in us but they focused on music very low and i also think it was an attempt to make the “next bts” Just because it wasn’t the biggest debut they just left it their like it never happend. The idea was not bad but i think sm was too greedy to make the biggest bg.
bruh you cant ask more from skz after they gave out so much content, like you'll shut up if you'd event spent 10 mins listening to skz replay because thats where your different is and to remind you they are self producing so they have a style and you cant ask for a different style from an artist each cb unlike group that literally have the liberty to get new prods every time, and i think another good example is bp cuz a certain group of prods always make their music and you can see the similarity and pattern in it.
@@aelinisbae they changed on ateez, nmixx, skz, the passion of most of the artists, red velvet peak, rude ktubers and IU You should check winterosy "taking back old kpop opinions"
I love everglow more than any other group, but that’s facts. They need to do more retro or a jazz song or something other than EDM, although they pull it off the best.
I think SuperM was unnecessary in the way that it forces fandoms who are normally part of a ''fan war'' to be together and hype up a group where they don't like half of the members. It was made as a group to take over America but didn't succeed in it and they should focus more on groups on their own instead of meshing them together because they have a change to get more popular but SM isn't doing their job. No SM groups got in the top 10 most streamed kpop acts in 2022 even though they are a big 3 company. Sm is doing unnecessary things that doesn't make sense, I also think almost every fandom would rather have their group to have a comeback instead of 1 member of your group have a comeback with people from groups you don't like/care about. Same thing with Got The Beat. They have members from Aespa a group that din't even debut 2 years ago and instead building them solid fandom they have 1 comeback a year later and some members performing with other members who have been in the industrie for 10 years. Not to be mean but the other members in Got The Beat are already over the hype and have their solid fanbase and won't gain many new fans, Aespa has to compete against 4th gen girl groups like NewJeans, Ive, Le Sserafim, (g)idle etc. They should focus more on their own.
About 41, yeah they don't gaf at all, but suddenly their faves do something and they have a chance to bring up issues about other idols that have apologized and corrected their behaviour.
i agree with the sm vocalists (not them being the best) about their stans shoving that on our throats tbh 💀 you can't praise any other vocal without them beeing in your ass
In my opinion, there are some groups where I think they do not fit the 'noise/experimental music' aesthetic, because it does not suit the group's image or the sound of the group and that deviates the group's concepts. As well as, there are groups that actually don't need to experiment, because experimental music can either go really good or really bad, depending on the listener. Another opinion, I think in order for people to understand ATEEZ and Stray Kids they will need to listen to their discography (besides the title track) and watch their LIVE performances. Both groups bring uniqueness in their own way and saying that they will need to switch it up or they are becoming like other boy groups is discrediting all that they have done so far. Especially considering Stray Kids has covered over 25 genres under just 5 years of being a group and introduced a new sound on top of that.
2NE1 isn't that different from Blackpink becuase YG got rid of them and then replicated them in 4 newer, younger, 'prettier' girls. Their early music is basically the 2NE1 songs that didn't make it.
8:37 "don't be surprised if blackpink or twice are more popular than that one underrated group" * literally less than 1 min later * 9:21 "CLC is underrated" Dawg these contradictions in these vids make me laugh💀💀💀
About 48 i dont think nct dream should stop because nct dream has been and is still making great music and its still working out for the group,but it's an opinion AND,in my opinion,ateez is still unique
I wouldn't blame idols if they did hate some of their fans. Hard to like people who are against you dating, marrying, starting a family etc.
@@norabeckwith6893 Some of them probably do, let's be honest.
@@norabeckwith6893 because half of the time they are doing ca let’s be so fucking for real
@@norabeckwith6893 they do be doing ca wtf are you saying??
@@norabeckwith6893 CA needs to be called out & I don't think I've seen anyone being wrongly accused of CA. Many idols have done it & were rightfully called out for it but they should be criticized for it instead of being hated on.
@Utterly Bias Wrecked Cultural Appropriation
Seventeen do be having the most comforting songs. Like one of the biggest reasons why they're my ults. Their music feels so cozy and soothing. Love them sm.
SKZ have been switching it up since debut. people need to stop judging them by title tracks alone. I want nothing more from them cuz I know they will deliver regardless of what genre they do
Right I don’t even think there’s genre they didn’t try but the Pearson seems like it’s Mia and anti-stay
Yes! They have over a 100 songs and all of them are so different, even ODDINARY and MAXIDENT was different and their Japanese comebacks are different they will always switch it up and even a lot of their title tracks aren’t the same
not only that. if u look at their album. they managing to cover up at least 3 different genres. like bruh switch what exactly?!
EXACTLY, every song they release has a different vibe.
Hehe, y'all watched the teaser yet???
Personally, stray kids always do something different. I couldn’t ask for anything else from them. LIKE THEY GOT DRILL, THEY HAVE POP, THEY HAVE RAP, BALLADS, AND LIKE A MILLION OTHER TYPES OF SONGS THAT I CANT THINK OF RN. Soooo what more do you want?
Edit: I just remembered they did time out with which gave me such nostalgia from the pop rock days lol
They’ve literally cover 45+ genres.. people delusional
@@Mochiskz143 THANK YOU. Smh ppl just talking out of boredom fr fr. Ppl that truly appreciate music are Stay’s.
Iam pretty sure most people use them in their videos as rage bate lol.
11:06 in my opinion everything skz does is switching it up fr. plus, they create their own music which can't be said for the VAST MAJORITY of the industry. they found their sound but also manage to make different things. stray kids gets more popular by the minute so clearly what they do works and isn't boring
Yes! They experiment a lot and even if it’s noise music they never use the same beat or sound
ATEEZ & especially SKZ r what I'd call "NOISE MUSIC DONE RIGHT" unlike most noise genre songs which sound messy af with a bunch of stuff randomly thrown here & there.
Ateez is "THAT" group imo. I can hardly point out anything they lack at...be it musical quality, dancing skills, vocal stability, stage presence, personality, etc. U name it they have it. Ateez r seriously so unique from their sound to their personality to their dancing & stage presence. They keep doing a different concept every comeback without losing their signature sound.
For the skz one, I didn't enjoy maxident era as much as their previous eras maybe because I became a stay during maniac era & I freaking loved maniac. But after following their discography, I don't think they need to switch any thing up cuz that's what they always do since debut.
Minghao rocks the mullet hair. He looks the absolute best in it in my opinion. Hongjoong does too.
I couldn't disagree more with the "Ateez is not unique anymore"
Guerrilla and Halazia are so different, it's a completely new sound if you compare it to the general boy group music that's coming out nowadays
@yoonsaane this!!!!!!
@yoonsaane this is ac so true
I think the video was made before the release of the songs since the creator talked about jypn (so maybe December 2021-january 2022)
@@abcdmellz makes sense, but I would still disagree, bc they released Deja Vu right before that time
@yoonsaane any examples if you want? i’m interested lol
imo ateez is and will continue to be unique in kpop; there aren't any other bgs i can imagine doing the things they do
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being biased with the nct dream one but i don't think anything is wrong with the dreamies continuing as adults in nct dream
no fr like what would the other 5/7 members do 💀 idk anyone who agrees with the graduation concept in 2023 doesn't know dream like that
exactly
“Stray kids needs to switch it up” BRO THEYRE CONSTANTLY SWITCHING IT UP AND THATS ONE OF THE THINGS PPL DONT LIKE ABOUT THEM💀💀 skz outsold idc
Quite literally. Whenever they have a new release, it sounds nothing like the previous one. I think people think so because, understandably, it's their songs so all the songs will have that 'feeling' that makes them uniquely SKZ. Especially since they do their own music.
It’s the profile for me 💀
@@LasagnaLOV it’s amazing ik🤭🤭
Can I squish you..??
Stray kids have been switching it up, yes it has their signature on it especially with music but it doesn’t sound the same. A lot of their title tracks are different and has the energy of SKZ but that doesn’t mean they are getting boring. Case 143 is different from Maniac Maniac is different from thunderous thunderous is different from back door and so on. They explore a lot of genres and will continue to switch it up even with new comebacks but I kind of disagree with TXT being the standard when it comes to charts they are breaking like it’s great that for over 2 million copies but that doesn’t mean that they are the standard for records breaking
Also for the TXT thing I’m not saying it’s a fact I just think a lot of us have different ideas and definitions when it comes to what the standard is for KPOP (and I’m not shitting on their progress either) I think when we say “this group is the standard” it’s because that group is our favorite and ofc we are gonna hold them high up then the rest the boys are great but it depends now on what you mean by standards and what kind of standards
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this person mustn't have seen the8 and GD with mullets ( especially the8 + glasses sjakjsbkj i'm not over that look)
I mean Hongjoong looks amazing with a mullet, but its definitely not just him, i'm sure there are many others i just cant think of any rn
For sentance 23(skz one) as a stay skz make amazing music and the dedication they put towards making songs is amazing!! Skz have covered nearly every genre and can cover more, stray kids have different genres and change it up in almost every album or single they realise!! I personally think skz can keep their currents songs as it is and work on similar songs in the future.
Seb when you was confused if they were talking bout you was hilarious but for real your one of the realest reactors I've seen
FACTS hongjoong been rocking the mullet since he was 3 y.o
LMAO
@@Sebastine 😂
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My Kpop Opinions
1. There are idols in it for the money aspect of things because they see successful groups and more often than not once they are idols themselves will end up having scandals and be forced to leave the industry anyways.
2. Most fans who dislike a group or artist will do so based on the title track and not even listen to an album
3. Autotune is subjective. If you like it, that's fine, if you don't that's fine too. An artist doesn't become untalented for using it.
4. It's 2023 and I am so sick of how powerful rumours are and how easy it is to destroy an idols career based off of them.
5. It's okay to fall out of love with a group or artist's music, it isn't because they haven't changed but because you have grown tired of their signature sound
6. Keeping up with every idols variety show is tiring tbh same thing with Vlives
7. You can like a group without having to compare them with another artist and still like them
8. Thinking an artist or group is overrated does not make them a bad artist, they're just popular
9. Artists from smaller companies are unlikely to become popular and stày popular
10. The Big 3's most popular artists don't define the entirety of the music they make and the artists they have under their label
11. We won't stop having controversies on clothing, music videos and statements that are offensive to someone. Not only because they are valid, invalid or blown out of proportion but because in the company and artist's mind they will always be promoting to the Korean audience and this audience isn't too concerned with these ideals unless it's a way to drag the artist or offends them personally
so trueee txt are my ults,the music is goooooood and they are so fuuny,so proud of them
I definitely don't agree with their Stray Kids opinion coz they literally have songs of so many genres.. Ppl should stop judging their whole discography with just their TTs also even their TTs dont have the same kinda music they just have that SKZ element. ..They will make whatever songs they want supporting it or not is the fan's choice.. Ppl might not like it and thats okay tbh.. they did change it up with their TTs with Case 143.. They can have their own opinions tho I aint gonna go attack ppl for that..
Edit: Kpop fans say that *insert kpop grp* has that element in their songs which makes them *insert kpop grp* only if its their favs.. If its any other grps then its repetitive apparently..
Literally, like the fact that skz switches up constantly and is always trying new things is one of the things that ppl don’t like about them, but now ppl r telling them to switch it up as if they haven’t been doing that since debut💀. Like obviously skz will always have a distinct sound, but it’s always done different in every song. I can’t think of any skz songs that sound the same as each other
Right for the Pearson it sounds simulera because her favs don’t make they own music maybe time to time and when you listen to skz you just know it’s skz because they do their music
@@seochangbinsarms exactly.. They gonna hate and criticise no matter what.. I love that SKZ don't give a shit and do their thing..
TXT is the absolute standard. I love TXT so much, they are truly a masterpiece and hardworking, talented, funny group and i am so proud of them!! 모아 ♡
I disagree so much with “Ateez not being unique”. Ateez has such a distinguished and their very own sound. Like they have so many genres and they really experiment a lot with their music, but it really works. In my opinion Ateez has a sound in their music in which you can just know it’s their music. Like I can’t think of any group that has the same sound or a similar sound to Ateez. For example we have “hala hala”, “wonderland”, “pirate king”, “the real”, “halazia”, “deja vu”, “thanxx”, “answer” and many more and no other group sound like Ateez. They incorporate a lot of different instruments, for example in “the real” in the dance break and also some orchestra and opera like for example in “answer”. They show us so many different sides of them and nobody does it like them. they’re literally a great example of uniqueness.
Txt really are the standards, amazing vocals, dance, visual, personality, discography, fandom
Also temptation album sold 2.16 million copies (if I’m not wrong) and they’ve been smashing charts and records EVERYWHERE
2.18 m*
@@Sara28106 ah yes, my mistake, Ty for telling me 💙
@@midnightmoon_15 no problem 💙
Fyi that's in 1 week I forgot how much the total is right now
9:30 now. look at skz with their 5mil pre-order record. living legends.
Ateez is literally so unique ... like their songs dont sound alike at all plus they involve their lore in everything sound,mv, lyrics everything
I think some of the stuff can be explained by the year. Saying Red Velvet probably won't be able to do anything new, SKZ being repetitive and Ateez being generic especially were all before their 2022 releases. Same with all of the opinions, those just stuck out to me because they were definitely disproving since the video released
some stuff she said is true, some is biased, and Ateez is definetely not becoming basic or like any other group. And Sebastine is funny af when drinking, not @ him thinking people talk sh-t about him because youtubers are mentioned. Sebastine, if you read this. you are really refreshing, very authentic and - as for me - I don`t think you are disrespectful to anyone. ly
Winterosy is a dude
co-ed groups though-
i want to be in a co-ed group. like fr. im starting vocal and dance training next semester and im already learning Korean and im saving up money to move to Korea and live with my cousin over there. i seriously want to be in a kpop co-ed group. i just don't want to be the leader though bc thats a little too much for me. i wouldn't be a good leader so i wouldn't wanna put that kinda stress on anyone.
anyway i hope no one reads this whole thing lol
the way she just started on spilling beans without a pause is hella hilarious 😭🤚
You've come so far from your first bts reaction hehehehe.. I've been subbed since then and your growth from that to now being a multi stan is great. Wishing you more growth to your channel..
Just right is one of the songs that got me heavy into kpop 🫣
Honestly, I think Antis of any group are more obsessed than the actual fandoms for the groups. Like why spend all that energy and money on something you absolutely don't like, and instead, be happy and support the things you actually do like/enjoy.
“No one is more obsessed with BTS than non-armys" that's a fact fr 💀
X me out though. I don’t stan BTS, I’m not an ARMY. But I’m in no way obsessed with them. I support them, and I think they are incredible, but I’m not obsessed.
@@Mochiskz143 Yeaa, I can see ur 'not obsessed with bts' 💀
@@user_co3hta018 I think it should be changed to “haters” and not non- ARMYS. There are a lot of non- ARMYS who don’t even give a crap about BTS.. some don’t even know they exist.
@@Mochiskz143 IDC abt what u think, u cared enough to make two whole comments saying how u don't care about BTS while talking about bts tho, and people on the internet who say they "don't care" actually care the most lol
@@user_co3hta018 why the fuck do y’all like causing drama? Just because someone says they don’t care about BTS, doesn’t mean they are fcking obsessed with them. I love what they did, they are incredible, and I appreciate what they did. But if I was obsessed with them, I would say I hate them, then continue to stalk their every move.
Also, why the fuck did you have to go on my account and say rude shit on my videos. ARMYS are
Literally one of the most toxic fandoms, and can’t just take that as a fact, and the truth.
As for the Ateez one, I can't see many other bg do songs like Halazia so I dont get this opinion tbh.
This video was posted when ateez did fireworks
They took this opinion back later
@@NihilLucis Oh I know it's older but even so, Fireworks isn't really typical bg either tbh.
@@glaciemdraco fireworks was not the most liked cb
Many thought it was generic noise at first
But it changed fast
@@NihilLucis lol funny how Fireworks made me an Atiny
@@douja8212 it was for many 🎉
Txt’s discography is amazing!
For the stray kids' opinion, they have none to switch up like their songs have a lot of genre. Not just loud music blah blah
Their album legit give mood swings, vibey to sad, to happy beat with a sobbing meaning
Girl wtf do you mean Sttraykids needs to switch it up? Their songs are all diffrent, you just mad because they have talent and have the best theme
To be honest, SKZ has one of the unique genres. They do and experiment with their songs, they explore with their music! I disagree with #23 tsk tsk smh.
why does this person not like red velvet help they're still making absolute bops😭
We all know that when you watch a reaction video, the reactors who force themselves are very easy to spot.
They put an arrow in the thumbnail that's not pointing to anything or someone who didnt do much in the video, when they react to the song, they don't comment on the lyrics. They look bored the entire time and do other things while not listening to the songs. Their thumbnails are making faces that people who love the group didn't even make when they watched it.
Vocal coaches who don't comment on the production on the voice or the vocal technique. Dancers are more likely gonna talk about dance than the music and I think that's fine.
But overall, there are def people who don't actually give the song a chance or genuinely don't like it but instead of just saying it's not their type of song, they say "its 10/10 for me" and ask for suggestions to grab the views from that Fandom.
Veteran kpop reactors will def say it but newer ones don't wanna ruffle feathers and wanna keep Fandom clicking on their stuff
No I kinda see what they were saying on the ateez and skz opinions but I think it was worded poorly and not really explained. I think it's because ateez and skz are super popular in the west and companies are taking notes from them and trying to recreate their own versions of skz and ateez. no company was trying to create such strong dance/all rounder groups until ateez and skz debuted. no one (besides sm) was trying to create the unique music that ateez and skz do until they got more popular in the west. (ofc bts and their huge impact on the west bringing eyes to kpop lead to the uprising of ateez and skz. this comment is mostly about ateez and skz though but we can take time to thank bts) now that almost every company especially nugu companies are trying to appeal to the western market they take inspo from ateez and skz. so it makes it seem like ateez and skz aren't unique because the concept and sounds they made popular are being made for other artists. making it seem like everyone is doing it so ateez and skz aren't unique. I used to be a fan of both ateez and skz and I remember distinctly when ateez and skz got popular suddenly an influx of dance, performance, and rap heavy bgs with dark concepts started debuting. I remember when Wonderland by ateez dropped and the waves it made over the industry can still be seen today. for skz their most influential comeback is hard to pinpoint because it's kind of all of their comeback lmao but if I had to pick top two I'd pick god's menu and thunderous as they are the most recent and most recognizable examples.
"now that almost every company especially nugu companies are trying to appeal to the Western market"
I think this is true since Skz blew up internationally a lot and Ateez as well especially in the West. I think Atz, Skz Dreamcatcher were the proof nugu/small companies needed to try to appeal more than just the Korean market/not fully focus on the Korean market. I read in some comments that Ateez are the group that give hope to nugu groups of blowing up in the west because despite not coming from a medium or big company Ateez became the Best selling non big4(I'm talking about the biggest entertainment companies not the founders of Kpop) and in 2022 went on 2 world tours selling out major cities and even had to double the concert dates in those cities due to the demand. Atz are going to have their Asian part of their 2022 Break That Wall world tour also visiting major Asian cities for two days each. I still consider Ateez unique because me personally I haven't heard of a bg group have songs like Guerrilla, Halazia, Turbulence, inception, Wave, Wonderland and Deja Vu all under their belt and execute them like Atz did yet somehow you would be like "Yup this is an Ateez song"
wouldn’t be a kpop video if a kpop stan wasn’t shitting on skz and talking down on em!!! the agenda of ppl speaking on them while knowing absolutely nothing continues. the hate train is so forced for most people.
Yep! Like their title tracks are energetic but also still sound different
Here are two more:
"Most popular doesn't necessarily mean the most talented"
"Most idols' personalities have nothing to do with what we see on screen"
With the Dreamcatcher one, that hurt but I know it’s partially true 😢
25:52 Sultry film is by far the meanest kpop youtuber. All of her videos are about criticising something ore someone.
😬OOP. i just realized that was the person that made the jimin comeback video
@@Sebastine Yep that's her. She hates wonyoung too
@@Sebastine Nvm she hates the whole group
13:13
The looks is just a Bonus. Just like in Newjeans, i really love their song, I WILL CROSSING HEAVENS FOR THEIR CREEPY MV... their MV are top notch. Their vocals ARE INSANE. And BUNNIES
i have literally never heard of someone stanning a group just because of their visuals like maybe im out of the loop or wtv but i feel like thats just a rumor fans made up or something to start unnecessary arguments because absolutely NO ONE is doing that😭😭
I was chilling until I heard "Just right by got7 is the wrost song"... I feel Offended! lol I used to be obssessed with that song! And seb you're really nice, and anyone that's hate on you was just prob mad at you spitting truth.
all i know is TXT is the only one giving me EVERYTHING i want from a group to be a fan.
For me they are definetly the standart❤
No one is more arrogant than those that have "BTS only" in their twt bios, yes, I just said that. You can be proud of their achievements and you being part of them, but being proud shouldn't be a shield to belittle others, to call anyone else and their mothers a fl0p and feel satisfied that you just did that because you're protected by a screen, that's cyberbull***. I do support BTS, they are a great group, and I do accept that they are indeed very popular and famous (good for them), but, some of their most hardcore fans need to chill. That's more than one sentence, sorry.
"Jisoo is a good" Thought provoking insight as always Seb XD
29:28 WHATTT I AINT NEVER SEEN ANYONE TRY SOMETHING LIKE HALAZIA TF 😭😭😭
You're not rude buddy... We're love u bcz ur so funny and humble :)
I would say that for both bts and blackpink!! The way non armies and non blinks are obsessed with them is just insane.. Like they even know everything that sometimes we armies and blinks don't know!! Like damn girl just accept that you love them lol!!
As for the Jisoo one she is just overhyped by blinks and very underrated in the eyes of other antis!! Like she is doing a pretty good job in blackpink.. She is not as bad as antis claim and not as good as blinks claim.. Vocally she's even interchangeable with Lisa!! Like if Lisa develops in her vocal and starts to support she is gonna surpass Jisoo!! But the most imp thing is that her vocal binds up blackpink's songs!! And also she is consistent with her performance too and yeah one thing is that she has definitely improved in her sp!! You can't change my mind about that!!
Cry for me is the best twice song for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YES CRY FOR ME IS ICONIC HATERS CAN GO CRY!!! Also l have never agreed with a comment talking about Jisoo than now. Fans should stop overhyping her when its not necessary and haters need to shut tf up
@@twiceuuimida3847 Yeahh
Considering skz has more the 40 different genres of music in their Discography, they have their own sound but all they do is experiment and switch it up all the time
It's been so long since I listened to Ateez songs and then suddenly heard bouncy one day and my first thought was that it's very unique to ateez, like if i'd heard the demo and had to choose a group for the song I'd probably go for ateez, so i did not get the them turning into a normal group one 💀
skz do switch it up i just think people aren’t looking at their whole discography and lyrics
"I hate noise music". This is how u can tell what this person never listened to rock music and always fallowing the pop trends.
Person who enjoys calm, chill mb classical music would never hate music, they will tell u "oh its just not my thing".
Perfectly said
*idol does something very offensive and gets called out and hated on about it*
kpoppies: let’s make this about bts
REAL
28:39 I literally shouted “WHAT?!”. Cause just right by got7 was the song that I always sang with my friends when we all first got into kpop in like 5th or 6th grade. It’s just a cute song
About the SKZ one...whoever had that opinion - they're a hater. Nothing more, nothing less
real talk. I live in the Caribbean and they had brought the bts movie out ( I can't remember the name but it was in 2018) and i was a fairly new kpop fan. anyways long story short i met 2 of my best friends that night and we were recapping that night on how we met for the first time and my friend was like i'm glad i met you cause army's around here are like deadass worshiping bts. There was even a girl who was bowing on her knees in front of the screen and i was o.O.
These k-pop stans be more obsessed with BTS than their own ult grps ...
33:35 I agree with the Jessi speil you went on... I am a very quiet person and people like Jessi who are loud can get very annoying very fast. I too didn't like her initially bc of that but she really grew on me. Even though I didn't watch it, when she got replaced on Showterview, I felt like that was a very bad decision. She was the life ofthat show. Watching those clips was so fun.😂💜
9:25 the truth has been said...stan TXT for a better life!!!
She was lowkey hating on straykids a lil
Right I think she’s just moa and ani-stay
Yep and then saying TXT is standards with charts and records like it’s good that got over 2 million copies but that doesn’t mean they are the standard-
wdym in the 89. they called chan a great kpop idol and i CANNOT agree more like- he’s absolutely awesome. literally ult worthy.
@@conchispace you can still like one member and hate the group, kpop fans do that a lot.
@@BellTheGnome that’s true, but i really don’t think person who made this video hates skz. 💀
even tho their opinion about their music is WRONG.
6:30 is it bad I pray FOR them, bc i have prayers like "protect *idol* while in the military" or praying for them when they are in hard times (sasaengs, death, etc...). Please don't take this as a rude way, just actually curious bc if it is I can stop.
another kpop opinion is there is a certain fandom out there who kept saying that non fans are more obsessed with their faves but its actually bcs of THEIR fandom ALWAYS provoking other fandoms. like girl, can they not see how toxic their fandom is lmao
On 36:34 the whole reason superm happened was to top Bts but it didn't work, so it was unnecessary
i agree that superm was unnecessary bc it was advertised so much in us but they focused on music very low and i also think it was an attempt to make the “next bts” Just because it wasn’t the biggest debut they just left it their like it never happend. The idea was not bad but i think sm was too greedy to make the biggest bg.
SM SOLOS GIVING YOU REAL VOCALS AND IT DOESN'T MATTER ABOUT THE MONEY WE DON'T RECEIVE MONEY FROM THEM BUT GOOD MUSIC IT IS.
enhypen has one of the best dance line in 4th gen
I disagree with the Jessi and Stray Kids ones. I agree with the TXT and Seventeen and the SuperM one...
bruh you cant ask more from skz after they gave out so much content, like you'll shut up if you'd event spent 10 mins listening to skz replay because thats where your different is and to remind you they are self producing so they have a style and you cant ask for a different style from an artist each cb unlike group that literally have the liberty to get new prods every time, and i think another good example is bp cuz a certain group of prods always make their music and you can see the similarity and pattern in it.
it's an old version, op came back on some of the opinions
Do you know which ones
@@aelinisbae they changed on ateez, nmixx, skz, the passion of most of the artists, red velvet peak, rude ktubers and IU
You should check winterosy "taking back old kpop opinions"
I’m not surprised they changed up on SKZ
They did NCT dirty
I love everglow more than any other group, but that’s facts. They need to do more retro or a jazz song or something other than EDM, although they pull it off the best.
I think SuperM was unnecessary in the way that it forces fandoms who are normally part of a ''fan war'' to be together and hype up a group where they don't like half of the members. It was made as a group to take over America but didn't succeed in it and they should focus more on groups on their own instead of meshing them together because they have a change to get more popular but SM isn't doing their job. No SM groups got in the top 10 most streamed kpop acts in 2022 even though they are a big 3 company. Sm is doing unnecessary things that doesn't make sense, I also think almost every fandom would rather have their group to have a comeback instead of 1 member of your group have a comeback with people from groups you don't like/care about. Same thing with Got The Beat. They have members from Aespa a group that din't even debut 2 years ago and instead building them solid fandom they have 1 comeback a year later and some members performing with other members who have been in the industrie for 10 years. Not to be mean but the other members in Got The Beat are already over the hype and have their solid fanbase and won't gain many new fans, Aespa has to compete against 4th gen girl groups like NewJeans, Ive, Le Sserafim, (g)idle etc. They should focus more on their own.
About 41, yeah they don't gaf at all, but suddenly their faves do something and they have a chance to bring up issues about other idols that have apologized and corrected their behaviour.
i agree with the sm vocalists (not them being the best) about their stans shoving that on our throats tbh 💀 you can't praise any other vocal without them beeing in your ass
In my opinion, there are some groups where I think they do not fit the 'noise/experimental music' aesthetic, because it does not suit the group's image or the sound of the group and that deviates the group's concepts. As well as, there are groups that actually don't need to experiment, because experimental music can either go really good or really bad, depending on the listener. Another opinion, I think in order for people to understand ATEEZ and Stray Kids they will need to listen to their discography (besides the title track) and watch their LIVE performances. Both groups bring uniqueness in their own way and saying that they will need to switch it up or they are becoming like other boy groups is discrediting all that they have done so far. Especially considering Stray Kids has covered over 25 genres under just 5 years of being a group and introduced a new sound on top of that.
2NE1 isn't that different from Blackpink becuase YG got rid of them and then replicated them in 4 newer, younger, 'prettier' girls. Their early music is basically the 2NE1 songs that didn't make it.
AY BUT THE ENGLISH LYRICS IN THE TXT VER OF BACK FOR MORE IS THE BEST YOU CANT CHANGE MY OPINION
Here in 2024 to say that BTS IS GOING BACK TO THEIR HYYH ERA STAY PRESSED
As someone that ults dreamcatcher, i wholeheartedl agree with them being unable to be super ppular because of their music genre tbh
i think that the rude kpop youtuber one was directed to seulgiology
Hongjoong and SCOUPSSSS
Winterosy is so mad for no reason pls lmao
I STAN ALL-ROUNDERS
No Ateez are unique PERIOD. they always do something different with sounds, concepts, cisuals, etc.
The crazy thing bout the HYYH opinion is that bts has a song called “moving on” and its from that era… im intentionally missing the signals 😭😭
“skz needs to switch it up soon” honey they been switching it up since pre-debut they even created their own fucking genre wym 😭
I wish Cry For Me was the average, that would mean so many more bops for my playlist
txt and shinee have the most unique and experimental discographies imo
Do you ever wonder what actually the POP really is?
Pop = Popular/Popularity
idk why but I think OP doesn’t really like NCT Red Velvet and SKZ 😭
They are people who have make hating some groups their personality trait
I didn't think Red Velvet antis exist
nah fr like what did nct do to u😞
@@kalkxx fr like my dudes are just chilling 😭
omg yes playy is literally so funny i love her tweets
I dont often say that peoples opinions are wrong.. but that ateez one is just simply incorrect
8:37 "don't be surprised if blackpink or twice are more popular than that one underrated group"
* literally less than 1 min later *
9:21 "CLC is underrated"
Dawg these contradictions in these vids make me laugh💀💀💀
agree with txt!
About 48 i dont think nct dream should stop because nct dream has been and is still making great music and its still working out for the group,but it's an opinion AND,in my opinion,ateez is still unique
94 should’ve been “why hasn’t Super Junior disbanded yet”