Very cool. I purchased my first home and lived on Page Ave. for 7 years. History repeats itself, and whether people like it or not, there will always be those that have more than others.
This is so cool. I am Dirk Botterbusch, the current owner of Candler Park Market. I always wanted to see what Mr. McMichael looked like. I've heard many stories. Hopefully he'd be happy with the state of the store these days. The building is not much to look at anymore (and part of it fell into the storm water pipe that runs underneath the store back in the 90's) but we're trying our best to keep it going and a constructive part of the neighborhood. If anyone has any other pictures or information related to the history of the business district, please let me know.
Mr.McMichael was an important member of the community a very decent man who cared a lot for Candler Park, and while he didn't always appreciate the values of the people moving into the neighborhood, her certainly supported their efforts in revitalizing the community.
I wish they had interviewed me for this video...as a 5 year old kindergarten student (1965), I still remember leaving my class during school time, walking home about 6 long long blocks straight to my home and of course no one knew that I had left the school. When I arrived at home and knocked on my front door, my mother answered and proceeded to "FAINT" when she saw me!!! I recently found the home and the school on the same mission last year. It brought back sooo many memories and great joy to know it's still there and thriving as well :) Mom said she knew at that time that I would most likely raise myself and be very confident in my life's decisions...lol
Very cool. Our family lived with my grandmother on Glendale Ave. just around the corner and we frequented McMichael's. My father grew up in that house on Glendale. My father and I both attended Mary Lin Elementary, and we both had the same 1st and 2nd grade teachers!
Bill Johnson after you attended Mary Lin what middle school and high school did the kids attend in that neighborhood. My grandparents lived on Hooper Avenue my mom went to Mary Lin Elementary. They moved after she got out of Elementary school. I’m just curious to what school did your dad and you attend after Elementary school. I would assume Middle School would have been Inman Middle and Bass High, but I’m not sure.
@@butterflyhippie we moved to Tucker and I then attended Tucker high school. There was no middle school back in the olden days - you did K-7 at one school and then 8-12 in high school
Robert, thank you for posting this film. what a treasure! My husband and I were newly weds when we renovated 375 Candler Park Drive in 1977. We only lived there a year, but were involved in the neighborhood association and appreciated the neighborliness of our older neighbors on the street. I would love to read your dissertation; is it online anywhere?
not that I am aware of, but it is in the library at Georgia State University. It is called:- Crisis in identity : an urban ethnography of neighborhood revitalization
***** Back then it was probably called McMichael's, owned by the man of the same name who lived on McClendon Ave. I remember buying candy from that store as a kid before the Lee's bought it and built it up to eventually sell it as. I remember thinking how strange it was to see the Lee's oldest son beginning to offer specialty wines and beers. Ha! I remember when you could still buy a pickled pig's foot at the front counter! I haven't watched this video yet...a friend just shared it with me. And I just shared it with a bunch of the kids who grew up in 30307. Thanks Robert Fishman for making this documentary. I have been told that my father, Rocke Thompson, is interviewed at our house on Almeta Ave. I'm going to watch it tonight.
Where Candler Park was 20 years ago, the Historic West End (www.AtlantaWestEnd.com) is today. Seeing the changes take place is amazing. Like Candler Park, the Historic West End has lovely Craftsman Bungalows and excellent public amenities (such as the Beltline.) In contrast to this video’s account of gentrification, however, the Historic West End is notable for its racial balance. Yes, lower-income renters are being displaced, both by higher-income renters and by (lots of) new home buyers. But these incoming professionals are both black and white. So you find lots of IT professionals, academics, and young urban professionals generally, but they come in all colors. (Section 8 rentals, however, are pretty much gone.) Here are a few indicators of change. - There is a new business opportunity in *removing* burglar bars from windows. Crime is way, way down (safer than Midtown?) - There are few neglected houses. On many streets, do-it-yourself homeowners and investors have improved pretty much every house. - School options are growing (improved public schools, charter schools, and home-schooling groups.) Intown Atlanta is improving a lot these days. Candler Park changed decades ago, and the Historic West End is changing today.
I thought the same thing but Scott is right. Ex-Gas Station @ Oakdale & McLendon: www.google.com/maps/@33.76478,-84.341754,3a,75y,18.71h,77.39t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s4HNeHwHyZB4Vdi4xfvi6Nw!2e0 LaFonda: www.google.com/maps/@33.764801,-84.333941,3a,75y,129.85h,70.21t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sCkpz0NxVMEv0OaaAwK3kjw!2e0
This is so funny to me because they said the investors buy the houses and shoot the prices up and people walk away from the table with 40 to 50 for the houses in Candler Park back then. Well now the prices over there is 300,000 and higher. 300,000 is a small itty bitty house in that neighborhood. These people on this video probably would be 😮 😯 😳 shocked.
Very cool. I purchased my first home and lived on Page Ave. for 7 years. History repeats itself, and whether people like it or not, there will always be those that have more than others.
This is so cool. I am Dirk Botterbusch, the current owner of Candler Park Market. I always wanted to see what Mr. McMichael looked like. I've heard many stories. Hopefully he'd be happy with the state of the store these days. The building is not much to look at anymore (and part of it fell into the storm water pipe that runs underneath the store back in the 90's) but we're trying our best to keep it going and a constructive part of the neighborhood. If anyone has any other pictures or information related to the history of the business district, please let me know.
Mr.McMichael was an important member of the community a very decent man who cared a lot for Candler Park, and while he didn't always appreciate the values of the people moving into the neighborhood, her certainly supported their efforts in revitalizing the community.
Dirk, he was my Grandfather. I had my first job in the butcher shop there.
He'd be pleased with what you guys have done with the joint.
I wish they had interviewed me for this video...as a 5 year old kindergarten student (1965), I still remember leaving my class during school time, walking home about 6 long long blocks straight to my home and of course no one knew that I had left the school. When I arrived at home and knocked on my front door, my mother answered and proceeded to "FAINT" when she saw me!!! I recently found the home and the school on the same mission last year. It brought back sooo many memories and great joy to know it's still there and thriving as well :) Mom said she knew at that time that I would most likely raise myself and be very confident in my life's decisions...lol
History repeats itself again and again
The more Atlanta changes, the more it stays the same? Thanks for uploading. God bless
Very cool. Our family lived with my grandmother on Glendale Ave. just around the corner and we frequented McMichael's. My father grew up in that house on Glendale. My father and I both attended Mary Lin Elementary, and we both had the same 1st and 2nd grade teachers!
Bill Johnson after you attended Mary Lin what middle school and high school did the kids attend in that neighborhood. My grandparents lived on Hooper Avenue my mom went to Mary Lin Elementary. They moved after she got out of Elementary school. I’m just curious to what school did your dad and you attend after Elementary school. I would assume Middle School would have been Inman Middle and Bass High, but I’m not sure.
@@butterflyhippie we moved to Tucker and I then attended Tucker high school. There was no middle school back in the olden days - you did K-7 at one school and then 8-12 in high school
Bill Johnson thanks. I always wondered about that
Robert, thank you for posting this film. what a treasure! My husband and I were newly weds when we renovated 375 Candler Park Drive in 1977. We only lived there a year, but were involved in the neighborhood association and appreciated the neighborliness of our older neighbors on the street. I would love to read your dissertation; is it online anywhere?
not that I am aware of, but it is in the library at Georgia State University. It is called:- Crisis in identity : an urban ethnography of neighborhood revitalization
Carol now that house is valued at est. $1.7 million according to Zillow
I grew up on Miller Avenue during the 80's. The house I grew up in is gone now.
Will you be doing something on any other areas? Old Fourth Ward, Edgewood, Kirkwood etc?
Does anyone remember the "SILVER SADDLE" BAR in Little Five?
Does anyone know if the market they show in many scenes is now Candler Park Market?
Rebecca Olson Yes, it is.
***** Back then it was probably called McMichael's, owned by the man of the same name who lived on McClendon Ave. I remember buying candy from that store as a kid before the Lee's bought it and built it up to eventually sell it as. I remember thinking how strange it was to see the Lee's oldest son beginning to offer specialty wines and beers. Ha! I remember when you could still buy a pickled pig's foot at the front counter! I haven't watched this video yet...a friend just shared it with me. And I just shared it with a bunch of the kids who grew up in 30307. Thanks Robert Fishman for making this documentary. I have been told that my father, Rocke Thompson, is interviewed at our house on Almeta Ave. I'm going to watch it tonight.
He was my Grandfather - S.F. McMichael. They lived on Clifton Terrace. He refused to sell beer or wine until right before he retired and sold it.
Jas. M. Stacy
He was known in the neighborhood as Mac
@@jimstacy859Good morals bad business sense
Where Candler Park was 20 years ago, the Historic West End (www.AtlantaWestEnd.com) is today. Seeing the changes take place is amazing.
Like Candler Park, the Historic West End has lovely Craftsman Bungalows and excellent public amenities (such as the Beltline.) In contrast to this video’s account of gentrification, however, the Historic West End is notable for its racial balance. Yes, lower-income renters are being displaced, both by higher-income renters and by (lots of) new home buyers. But these incoming professionals are both black and white. So you find lots of IT professionals, academics, and young urban professionals generally, but they come in all colors. (Section 8 rentals, however, are pretty much gone.)
Here are a few indicators of change.
- There is a new business opportunity in *removing* burglar bars from windows. Crime is way, way down (safer than Midtown?)
- There are few neglected houses. On many streets, do-it-yourself homeowners and investors have improved pretty much every house.
- School options are growing (improved public schools, charter schools, and home-schooling groups.)
Intown Atlanta is improving a lot these days. Candler Park changed decades ago, and the Historic West End is changing today.
nothing cool about displacing the elderly.
The building at 26:38 ua-cam.com/video/0sQDDw7Wct4/v-deo.htmlm38s looks like the building that is now La Fonda on McClendon Ave.
ahvostik That is the old ex-gas station on the northeast corner of Oakdale and McLendon.
I thought the same thing but Scott is right.
Ex-Gas Station @ Oakdale & McLendon:
www.google.com/maps/@33.76478,-84.341754,3a,75y,18.71h,77.39t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s4HNeHwHyZB4Vdi4xfvi6Nw!2e0
LaFonda: www.google.com/maps/@33.764801,-84.333941,3a,75y,129.85h,70.21t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sCkpz0NxVMEv0OaaAwK3kjw!2e0
This is so funny to me because they said the investors buy the houses and shoot the prices up and people walk away from the table with 40 to 50 for the houses in Candler Park back then. Well now the prices over there is 300,000 and higher. 300,000 is a small itty bitty house in that neighborhood. These people on this video probably would be 😮 😯 😳 shocked.
1 million + in 2024
@@stevengallant6363yes I heard. 😮 wow.
You can't buy a house less than $1M in that same neighborhood in 2024.
👍🏻🇺🇲 80s
Now it's aroumd 600,000
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Guy said colored church 🤦🏾♂️
It was the South in 1980