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Same. I just don't have the thumb coordination for using controller. I recently switched to mnk and I will say that aiming with mouse feels significantly easier than on controller. But movement is a bit trickier on mnk than controller. That's my opinion of course. Others (especially the ones who like to complain just to spite controller players) probably have differing opinions.
I love how pc players complain about controller aim assist but when a player turns their aim assist off they then complain about configs which just gives controller players the same movement as them💀💀 soon their gonna complain about controller players having fingers lmfaoooo
@mandatedmarrow7261 i used to play mnk but switched back to console last season and i must say, no aim assist isnt hard to play with, its just controller games have always had aim assist so people unintentionally become accustomed to using it, its not required but it does help for sure
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U told the other guy to not even try?? Shouldn’t even have said anything. Ruined the whole video and just dumb to tell him to not even try. Invalidates the whole idea of the video
@BirnoOCE I think you should have an alt account and add them to the spectators list and make it spectate the other guy while recording so for us viewers we get to watch both the POVs, like how killing a twitch streamer video looks like.
I turned aim assist off when I started most the games I play I dont use aim assist I hate when the game controls my game Also can we see all levels of movement players style video
@@SonGoku-nm9rm yes but he plays without aim assist every day. now get someone who uses aim assist and make them turn it off to see if they are good or just an aim assist crutch
@@lacyx7923 Yeah you yappin, the point of controller is casual play/players. People who want to take it easy relax or have a good time, why would someone willing use two thumbs instead of their full arm. If aim assist was taken there would still be tons of good controller players because some dont rely on it beside casual players like 6 years olds or people who just worked a shift and want to have fun playing a game with tapstrafing sweats
@@crypticsound8D the thing is aim assist is way to strong veteran MAK players often get better aim first time trying controllers on apex becouse aim assist is so op for a MAK player to have better tracking then a controller he needs thousends of hours in aim pratice
@@Venomousealpha You have pros literally switching input to play with aim assist. Sure, having a bit of movement is nice, but there's a reason you don't see them using "flashy" movement in ALGS, it doesn't work vs good players.
I am a level 1200 xbox player, and I personally think all people that dont play on the controller think it's overpowered, but really, I think mk is easier. They all have their pros and cons 💪
Former xbox player, started MnK 1 month ago, and controller is definitely stupid strong. I even hated the aim assist on console because it lowered the skill gap so much and made movement almost useless. Even on PC it's crazy strong. If you play 1v1s in R5 Reloaded you'll notice that 80% of the top players are on roller even when PC players are neostrafing all over. Pro players literally admit that conteoller is strong. There's not really a debate to be had
R5 Reloaded will change a lot I think going forward. With no more tap strafing or configs on roller, I think a lot will be switching over to MnK. If not, there will just be a big difference in movement now at least in the 1v1 mode@@pootzmagootz
@@RUCKUS577 script configs and steam configs are not too far detached, if at all, regardless of whether its through steam or not they are both movement automation, which has been deemed cheating. He also had superglides, They should do the fight again, but we all know the odds of that are low. He HAD configs because they have been banned and subsequently can no longer use them. If you yourself have used configs in this manner, I hope you can see the copium your response projects. If you haven't, I hope you can come to a point where you can see why the verdict is what it is.
Respawn did not publicly say Steam configs were cheating. They explicitly banned them from pro play, but nothing else. So at the time of this video he wasn't cheating if he was just using steam controller remapping. Also, they should make movement accessible on roller. I can assume you're probably crying about aim assist every day but don't realize taking away movement from roller players is just going to breed more 4-3 linear sentry bots that will roll you in every mode. I switched to mnk when I got a PC, and the scroll wheel might as well be a config with how much it trivializes some movement capabilities especially during gun fights when you're not going to be as efficient with your inputs. Sure there are skill gaps in movement like neo strafing and chaining multiple different movement techs together but beginner to intermediate movement on mnk is basically trivial. You're drawing the line right behind yourself but aren't offering solutions to a problem Respawn hasn't addressed yet. How should they decrease the gap between inputs? If you don't want roller players to have access to insta holster, moving while looting, tap strafing, gyro aiming, etc then you implicitly don't want AA nerfed. Roller doesn't have scroll wheel or anything similar, so tap strafing won't be possible until they offer a new solution. If you care about Apex, you should want something like steam configs minus the cringe aim/neo strafe scripts, access to moving while looting, and then AA can be adjusted. That would basically solve all of the input issues that you people refuse to let go @@freffrey3772
@@Embedded-Nick On the 1st of Feb 2024, Respawn made the following statement - PUBLICLY - "We want to be clear: the use of third-party tools, hardware, firmware, or software that automates game mechanics for a competitive edge over other Apex players is considered cheating and is unacceptable. As such, we will continue to evaluate potential exploits and take further action as needed." First lets address the Ad Hominem, and the "assumption" about crying about aim assist - I don't really give a shit about people using it because, for now, its just a part of the game, and I am perfectly aware of the implications of such actions, your assumption is inaccurate. You seem to think that because I'm saying that what is occurring in the video is cheating, that I'm drawing a line behind myself, that I should have the answers, when actually that is something that is at the discretion of the developers, and in reality its not quite as straightforward a problem as it might appear to be. No, I don't think console players should not be able to do the movement, but I also don't think automation is the answer - which ironically is the same issue as with aim assist. Your assumption that I don't want X therefore implicitly I don't want unrelated Y is actually something you are pulling out of thin air. And no, your statement of requirements for caring is inaccurate. The accessibility or capacity of one players action on one platform or another should be the same. The playing field as level as it reasonably can be. But the "solutions" at the same time not absurdly over the top such as configs and automation (which don't just apply to controller players, by the way). "Something like steam configs" yes, a universal baseline, but that is literally down to the developers to do - add capacity to do without it being done for you i.e. it is a skill to learn. I'm not sure it is me who is refusing to let go of anything any more than you project your idea of what you believe to be acceptable or unacceptable onto anyone who you deem to be arguing against whatever it is you are trying to argue. "You People" makes no sense, it means nothing, you are just pointing your finger at something you THINK is one thing without really looking at it in actuality. I would also love to see what you deem to be "trivial" beginner and intermediate movement, and in itself would trivial not just be relative to the ability for it to be done through another medium, which at the point of being balanced would not actually be any more trivial than any other? Do configs and automation not "trivialize" the supposedly trivial keyboard and mouse input? You want a closer balance and "fairness", so does EVERYBODY else UNLESS they have something to "lose" through this balance being attained. You can't selectively pick and choose and expect to come to a universal solution, and pinning that one person (in the only comment you have likely ever read from them - for all you know I could actively be working on a dev team somewhere working on a fix for this very problem, I'm not but it could well have been the case) appears to have not "proposed a solution" to a problem when that was not even a part of the conversation to begin with let alone their responsibility to fix, while yourself contributing a "solution" no more specific than an idealized "it should be fair". If you care about apex, you wouldn't be pointing fingers at another and calling them - and in doing so demonstrating your invalidation of - "you people" in regards to an issue that concerns ALL players (i.e. There is no "You People", just the playerbase), you would be trying to constructively consider ideas through an understanding of the reality that the presented problem is grounded within and the actual influence any given individual actually has in regards to "solving" the problem. If it was as straightforward as you pose it how come you haven't fixed it yet?
You have to know that you can not disable aim assist on apex it is not possible you can only disable the sensitvity slowing while aiming at an enemy wich is completly different
@@BooksAndShitButNotLiterally nah it is completely not, aim assist is moving your aim by itself a little bit to get closer to the enemy everytime it changes direction
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Server loss too ? Hmm that sounds amazing 😮
( I have this problem for soooo long )
Was waiting for this fight to come out, was an absolute nail biter!
I fukin love your videos man..keep up the amazing work
You are the goat man, keep it up 💪🐐
Hey I knew him before this video
I legitimately need more than aim assist 😐👍
Damn I don't really
Can't relate I don't have a problem 😂
Please just quit especially if your on console 😂, you have 40-60% of the aiming done for u
Same. I just don't have the thumb coordination for using controller. I recently switched to mnk and I will say that aiming with mouse feels significantly easier than on controller. But movement is a bit trickier on mnk than controller. That's my opinion of course. Others (especially the ones who like to complain just to spite controller players) probably have differing opinions.
@@Jfodjskwowofjcockdkdwtf are you on 😅
pc crybabies are still going to find something to cry about
Call them whatever you want, it doesn't prove anything. Keep denying objective facts.
0:45 this was actually funny because birno literally had lag symbols 😭
The Collab ive been waiting for MIZ and BIRNO!!!!
i think BOF took focus on movement and not winning a lil to serious at the beginning, he could’ve easily beat mizery if he tried
if u didnt notice they're on a 200 ping server so yeah they're more playing than trying to kill each other
@@sarushin9853 Yeah ik, but im saying Bof could still destroy him if he actually tried
They are not only birno is on 200 ping@@sarushin9853
Who is that guy? Is he a streamer? he is actually really smart with the movement. @@Coldy49620
agreed@@Coldy49620
BOF killed me the other day was not expecting it, his aim is one thing but movement is a another 😅
day 2 of asking for heirloom ❤
This no aim assist guy plays on roller with no AA and configs... might as well go mnk at that point lol
Apex players don't seem to have a full understanding that people have personal preferences lol
psycho preferences@@Embedded-Nick
day 93 of asking for an heirloom on a hundred different youtube accounts
no heirloom yet😢
Won't work, trust me
I love how pc players complain about controller aim assist but when a player turns their aim assist off they then complain about configs which just gives controller players the same movement as them💀💀 soon their gonna complain about controller players having fingers lmfaoooo
As a mnk i agree i have a friend on controller he refuses to play with aim assist and beams my other buddies that have aim assist on
@mandatedmarrow7261 i used to play mnk but switched back to console last season and i must say, no aim assist isnt hard to play with, its just controller games have always had aim assist so people unintentionally become accustomed to using it, its not required but it does help for sure
Day 15 of asking for an heirloom
I play console barely feel any aim assist
Then you're terrible
@@yvengeace I’m a master
Hey birno I love your content hope you can reply❤❤
Can’t wait for birno to hit 300k so he does his face reveal
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mizery is back to using aim assist, he said he had to aim practice multiple hours everyday and it was too mentally draining
UA-cam day 51 of asking for an heirloom with proof
Aim assist is not cheating like pc players aay u guya have no recoil and easy movement...
at 045 seconds there was dsu in his lobby
I saw that kid and first thing I thought of was “name me 10 books”
Lmfao
he is not apex predator, massive bait LMAO
Can we 1v1 and if I win I can get an heirloom plz ❤
no aim assist in game , a lot of aim assist and no recoil in cronus.
Please please please get a new microphone
Day 2 of asking for an heirloom
U told the other guy to not even try?? Shouldn’t even have said anything. Ruined the whole video and just dumb to tell him to not even try. Invalidates the whole idea of the video
It's Bof smh, he's stinky anyway 🙄
lets be honest Mizery is the goat
Why does BOF have MnK button hints on his pov? Shouldn’t it be controller?
Because it’s birno‘s pov bc hes spectating
@@Leon.vb0 ah, right
BOF is mnk, mizery is controller
I think I could be a diamond or more, but I have bad teammates to get there
(Now im gold player)
I want to test my skills😂
Pls Birno😄
@BirnoOCE I think you should have an alt account and add them to the spectators list and make it spectate the other guy while recording so for us viewers we get to watch both the POVs, like how killing a twitch streamer video looks like.
I turned aim assist off when I started most the games I play I dont use aim assist I hate when the game controls my game
Also can we see all levels of movement players style video
Day for asking for an hairloom😊
If this is not a joke, it won't work
Apex is a very linear game. Send yourself flying and beams. What else is there
Yup no AA here either
Can I be in a vid plz
The kid without aim assist is on m&k
That what I was saying
Day 3 of asking for heirloom on wattson
(I really want wattson heirloom)
No aim assist on m&k is not all that diff from having it controller is harder to use 💯%
yeh my friend dosent play with aim assist its not hard to use a thumb
Miz>
Birno im subbed gimme that heirloom 😂 "i saw ur in game name"
5:05 damn cfgs are insane
that was before the update when they didnt consider it cheating
you can tell he has no AA he would be 10 times better with it
Both rocking at 200ms ping...
They don’t, the ping shown is Birno’s
thats my ping as im spectating
His zipline movement for controller is rlly good
Poor console players no software too reduce lag
Mizery is the goat love this dude hes cracked imo and I have so much respect for this guy in apex
Bruh why u 1v1 with 204 ping -_-
He is just doing this to proof he doesn't need aim assist, hopefully he turns it on soon bc if not he is better of with mnk
You don't need it
No aim assist but Config😉🤣
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I love your vids bro ❤ keep up the amazing content also I absolutely love your intro song
What are BOFs mnk settings
First minute watching
You inspire me keep up the good work
Plees can I 1v1 you 0:53
Did you switch your lag sponser
made it to an early upload hm nice
How did he tape strafe when steam configs got banned
this was way before the ban
Get an "up and coming apex prodigy" aka r99 controller horizon aim assist abuser and see how they do against other preds without aim assist
He has aim assist disabled, think that was what the video was about believe it or not
@@SonGoku-nm9rm yes but he plays without aim assist every day. now get someone who uses aim assist and make them turn it off to see if they are good or just an aim assist crutch
@@lacyx7923 Yeah you yappin, the point of controller is casual play/players. People who want to take it easy relax or have a good time, why would someone willing use two thumbs instead of their full arm. If aim assist was taken there would still be tons of good controller players because some dont rely on it beside casual players like 6 years olds or people who just worked a shift and want to have fun playing a game with tapstrafing sweats
@@crypticsound8D keep yapping .6 abuser
@@crypticsound8D the thing is aim assist is way to strong veteran MAK players often get better aim first time trying controllers on apex becouse aim assist is so op for a MAK player to have better tracking then a controller he needs thousends of hours in aim pratice
U also forget the reason most apex pros r m,k because clearly sim assist isn’t helping as much as movement
Delusional 🤣
@@IIHydraII in what way I mean there’s clear proof
@@Venomousealpha You have pros literally switching input to play with aim assist. Sure, having a bit of movement is nice, but there's a reason you don't see them using "flashy" movement in ALGS, it doesn't work vs good players.
@@IIHydraII u also don’t see many a few but not many ALGS players using controller
@@IIHydraII if sim Addis was that good I would be higher rank than I am but I can even control the r99 with sim assis
why does mizery have mnk button hints
Spectator issue
@@dth_w4v3s thanks
wow
I am a level 1200 xbox player, and I personally think all people that dont play on the controller think it's overpowered, but really, I think mk is easier. They all have their pros and cons 💪
Former xbox player, started MnK 1 month ago, and controller is definitely stupid strong. I even hated the aim assist on console because it lowered the skill gap so much and made movement almost useless. Even on PC it's crazy strong. If you play 1v1s in R5 Reloaded you'll notice that 80% of the top players are on roller even when PC players are neostrafing all over. Pro players literally admit that conteoller is strong. There's not really a debate to be had
A lots of pro controller player have said it too. You never heard of anyone saying mnk is stronger except on some random UA-cam comments like this
R5 Reloaded will change a lot I think going forward. With no more tap strafing or configs on roller, I think a lot will be switching over to MnK. If not, there will just be a big difference in movement now at least in the 1v1 mode@@pootzmagootz
He goaded
I play with the same setting just more sens, i didn't know we have no aim assist, i feel like i have some
He has his disabled i believe
@@SonGoku-nm9rm ok, but how can u disabled aim assist
@@prodead5092ALC
@@prodead5092 At the bottom of the page in ALCs
You disable it in the controller options menu i believe its at the bottom, you can also disable assisted melee@@prodead5092
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You dont need aim assist when you have movement scripts 😂
he HAD tap strafe and thats it. its not a movement script its in steam lmfao
@@RUCKUS577 steam configs are literally movement scripts my guy 😂
@@RUCKUS577 script configs and steam configs are not too far detached, if at all, regardless of whether its through steam or not they are both movement automation, which has been deemed cheating. He also had superglides, They should do the fight again, but we all know the odds of that are low.
He HAD configs because they have been banned and subsequently can no longer use them.
If you yourself have used configs in this manner, I hope you can see the copium your response projects.
If you haven't, I hope you can come to a point where you can see why the verdict is what it is.
Respawn did not publicly say Steam configs were cheating. They explicitly banned them from pro play, but nothing else. So at the time of this video he wasn't cheating if he was just using steam controller remapping. Also, they should make movement accessible on roller. I can assume you're probably crying about aim assist every day but don't realize taking away movement from roller players is just going to breed more 4-3 linear sentry bots that will roll you in every mode. I switched to mnk when I got a PC, and the scroll wheel might as well be a config with how much it trivializes some movement capabilities especially during gun fights when you're not going to be as efficient with your inputs.
Sure there are skill gaps in movement like neo strafing and chaining multiple different movement techs together but beginner to intermediate movement on mnk is basically trivial. You're drawing the line right behind yourself but aren't offering solutions to a problem Respawn hasn't addressed yet. How should they decrease the gap between inputs? If you don't want roller players to have access to insta holster, moving while looting, tap strafing, gyro aiming, etc then you implicitly don't want AA nerfed. Roller doesn't have scroll wheel or anything similar, so tap strafing won't be possible until they offer a new solution. If you care about Apex, you should want something like steam configs minus the cringe aim/neo strafe scripts, access to moving while looting, and then AA can be adjusted. That would basically solve all of the input issues that you people refuse to let go @@freffrey3772
@@Embedded-Nick On the 1st of Feb 2024, Respawn made the following statement - PUBLICLY - "We want to be clear: the use of third-party tools, hardware, firmware, or software that automates game mechanics for a competitive edge over other Apex players is considered cheating and is unacceptable. As such, we will continue to evaluate potential exploits and take further action as needed."
First lets address the Ad Hominem, and the "assumption" about crying about aim assist - I don't really give a shit about people using it because, for now, its just a part of the game, and I am perfectly aware of the implications of such actions, your assumption is inaccurate.
You seem to think that because I'm saying that what is occurring in the video is cheating, that I'm drawing a line behind myself, that I should have the answers, when actually that is something that is at the discretion of the developers, and in reality its not quite as straightforward a problem as it might appear to be. No, I don't think console players should not be able to do the movement, but I also don't think automation is the answer - which ironically is the same issue as with aim assist. Your assumption that I don't want X therefore implicitly I don't want unrelated Y is actually something you are pulling out of thin air.
And no, your statement of requirements for caring is inaccurate. The accessibility or capacity of one players action on one platform or another should be the same. The playing field as level as it reasonably can be. But the "solutions" at the same time not absurdly over the top such as configs and automation (which don't just apply to controller players, by the way). "Something like steam configs" yes, a universal baseline, but that is literally down to the developers to do - add capacity to do without it being done for you i.e. it is a skill to learn.
I'm not sure it is me who is refusing to let go of anything any more than you project your idea of what you believe to be acceptable or unacceptable onto anyone who you deem to be arguing against whatever it is you are trying to argue. "You People" makes no sense, it means nothing, you are just pointing your finger at something you THINK is one thing without really looking at it in actuality.
I would also love to see what you deem to be "trivial" beginner and intermediate movement, and in itself would trivial not just be relative to the ability for it to be done through another medium, which at the point of being balanced would not actually be any more trivial than any other? Do configs and automation not "trivialize" the supposedly trivial keyboard and mouse input?
You want a closer balance and "fairness", so does EVERYBODY else UNLESS they have something to "lose" through this balance being attained. You can't selectively pick and choose and expect to come to a universal solution, and pinning that one person (in the only comment you have likely ever read from them - for all you know I could actively be working on a dev team somewhere working on a fix for this very problem, I'm not but it could well have been the case) appears to have not "proposed a solution" to a problem when that was not even a part of the conversation to begin with let alone their responsibility to fix, while yourself contributing a "solution" no more specific than an idealized "it should be fair".
If you care about apex, you wouldn't be pointing fingers at another and calling them - and in doing so demonstrating your invalidation of - "you people" in regards to an issue that concerns ALL players (i.e. There is no "You People", just the playerbase), you would be trying to constructively consider ideas through an understanding of the reality that the presented problem is grounded within and the actual influence any given individual actually has in regards to "solving" the problem. If it was as straightforward as you pose it how come you haven't fixed it yet?
birno please stop click baiting your videos g, hes not a predator
I caught you cheating because you were shooting at the wall and your shots still hit the person and you shot at a door and it still shot the person
Day 2 of asking birno for my fist hairloom
wait till they realize aim assist doesn’t even do much
You’re either thick or a child
Aim assist is so op
Aim assist on apex actually fights my aim I also don’t use it my raw aim is better
You have to know that you can not disable aim assist on apex it is not possible you can only disable the sensitvity slowing while aiming at an enemy wich is completly different
that's literally what aim assist is
You can literally disable it though
@@BooksAndShitButNotLiterally nah it is completely not, aim assist is moving your aim by itself a little bit to get closer to the enemy everytime it changes direction
@@flayz1384 Even if that's true, it's called target compensation and you can disable it.
Woah I've never seen bof lose 🫣