Hey guys I just wanted to say I can understand how people can think Shugoki is annoying to play against because of his passive hyper armor (I personally don't like that feature at all), but I just found it kind of funny to hear a character called "cheap." I hope you all enjoy
You know that with good reactions, you can GB out of any attack with the hyper armor or parry combos that are normally guaranteed, right? I mean, yeah he's not great but he is really underestimated.
Your shugoki is an alpha male if I’ve ever seen one. He wears white into battle to symbolize how his skill is blinding and every step he takes quakes. He is a MASTAPIECE
That's actually a cool kind of turtle. Real turtle is warlord / conq only blocking and spamming cheap, easy-to-land, hard-to-punish moves like headbutt / shield bash from time to time, maybe mixing it with 50/50 guardbreak.
You can avoid it 100% of the time with any character out of any state with a dodge+roll. The guy is an idiot for thinking Shugoki is cheap (though I do think demon's embrace is just an anti-fun mechanic personally, its still just Shugoki) but I definitely don't think Highlander even really registers on the cheap scale.
Those Shugoki's who just turtle and wait for you to throw out any attack so they can trade, and do this all over again are annoying, but you are not one of them, so I don't know what that person's problem was.
Aggresive shugokis works only on retards who dont know how to block or parry but opponents that do know how to block or parry turtling is the efficient way. Its also the best way to play him.
Well the problem is...against a good player what can shugoki do but turtle? His lights can be parried by anyone and so can his heavies. The turtle meta is a problem but when you literally have nothing you can do without being countered and insanely punished there's nothing else you can do.
best outfit for shugo would def be some type of yellow green radiation hazzard shugoki because man shugo is so cheap he kills you and you dont even know it lol
You should make a "nightmare" Kensei/Shugoki with the death mist effects and make the characters a white and black theme. That would be cool! It would kind of be like a Phantom Kensei/Shugoki!
Stops the fight to call you cheap in the middle of it, then proceeds to turtle and only GB. Just like that one HL I fought against as Centurion, although he would just only go into offensive stance and open with a kick, I would just light him out of it and then use heavies to keep him from doing it again. He told me to "stop ruining this game." Got matched with him again, he alt-f4'd on the loading screen.
@@irishace9280 to be fair you did ask for some character breaking nerfs there friend, highland already doesnt have to much going on, i rather have something done about that stupid gladiator zone
Shudoki is an under-rated hero. He is one of the best, just boring and one dimensional. (Deff in 4v4) passive armor and one shot backbreaker make him versatile and his insane neutral heavys in 4v4 make him one of the best in team fights.
I find the Shugoki limited in his options, and I agree with you in most regards on the topic of Shugoki. But the Demon's Embrace one-shot is a little silly. Especially in Dominion, when one can just gank in from the side and do that. Great vid :D
8:00 no joke i actually have parried a guaranteed second light with shugoki. It was on accident tho i basically spammed my heavy at the same time he light attacked and I got hit then he randomly got parried so atleast i think its possible Edit: Also its not cannibalism if its not another shugoki!
Shugo is busted, but not in an OP way, but in a way that makes him tedious to use and play against. It's a shame because I prefer heavy/tank characters and plus Shugo has that thicc boi swag.
Toeknee There are some interesting rework ideas on the for honor reddit, and the devs do visit the site so maybe they'll listen. Though it's more likely they'll just nerf him again.
It's genuinely fucking amazing that people get mad and call Shugo broken He's objectively at the very bottom of the tier list, people are just mad because they aren't used to playing seriously against him because so few people have the patience to master him, and thusly serious Shugoki players are a fucking endangered species with how rare they are
Its kinda funny how i was using highlander and i fought and orochi light spamming..i then did the overhead heavy spam cuz highlanders HAS SOOO MUCCCHHHH STAMMMIINNNNAAAA.
Man D tier shugoki is too strong, my S class highlander just doesn't have any mix-ups, cool combos, or some sort of stance that completely changes my moveset.
was in a zerk vs zerk fight. they did nothing but whiff light into unblockable mix up, I most used paired blades mix up and the unblockable once. they put themselves out of stam and got knocked down twice while I never let my self run out. and yet *they* called *me* bad at berserker? some people just make no sense
Shugoki isn’t cheap, since every attack is balanced except Dragons Embrace (the back break move) which is one of the most overpowered moves in the game, but is balanced out by his slowness
I honestly think he is one of the more balanced heroes available as he is easily parried, fairly easy to dodge and honestly i think if he didnt have hyper armor he would be one of the worst heroes as unless he guard breaks or parries he has almost no way to attack
Are you playing on pc with an xbox controller? Is the xbox controller more effective than mouse and keyboard? I use a trackball mouse but have been considering an xbox controller.
I've had people send me hate messages or invite me to parties to scream at mefor playing the fat man. Idk why everyone hates him,he just wants to love you.
dankdamundi honestly I’ll take any kind of improvement, it seems like they will delay doing anything to him for as long as possible or maybe try not to even pay attention to how much he needs SOMETHING. He has basically nothing but his hyper armor now and his hugs... two things against other characters who have so much more. No other character has so less except for lawbringer, and even he has more than shugoki. Law and goki both needs reworks and updates...that they may never get.
In my opinion they should make a nerf on demon charge ( that one move that breaks your back ). 1 to don't do that much damage and still regenerate a little of life. Or number 2 2 do that much damage but no life regeneration. What you guys think ? Mains Shugokis don't get mad at me lol just an opinion.
The fact that shugoki second heavy does 30 damage is a joke. I sometimes have violent daydreams about ubisoft balance team members. And then I realize it's just a game and I'm behaving like a psychopath...
I played against a very toxic Warden a few days ago.... I'm currently trying out a few new heroes and I was playing my glorious rep 0 Conqueror (He was.... rep 7 Warden? I think so...) aaand i got pretty close, final round, both almost dead... and then he charged, I dodged and bashed. And then we BOTH panicked and threw out the same move over and over again, until he died, 'cause shieldbash into top light beats top heavy. Well..... I learned a lot of adjectives for describing a spammer on this day.
@@GumshoeClassic my favourite thing to do as warden is cancel the SB inro GB,it catchea 80 percent of the players and I almost never use the shield bash,only against people who spam it against me
Imagine if his bash was really a Shieldbash, not just with his shoulder. I imagine a Warden who strapped the shields from Conqueror and Gladiator on his shoulder, with duct tape or smth like that. And he did the same thing with Peacekeeper's blades, they're on his helmet, like Antlers, and his weapon is Lawbringers halberd with Wardens sword as the spike on the top and Centurion's glove holding his gladius on the other end.
I die laughing every time somebody says shugoki is any kind of strong which is ironic. *warden takes any kind of damage and the response is always shoulder bash*
I dont like that I have to spam GB to remove their armor every 5 seconds, and just get bad trades because they know they can let stupid attacks fly during armor.
Hey guys I just wanted to say I can understand how people can think Shugoki is annoying to play against because of his passive hyper armor (I personally don't like that feature at all), but I just found it kind of funny to hear a character called "cheap." I hope you all enjoy
u better just reeee on them
Didn't watch the vid yet rip
Shugoki is easy to beat once his hyper armor is down shugoki players go into self preservation freak out mode
he also takes increased damage, which is big scare
Lol shugoki is hands down the worst character for duels lol that guy was just bad. Don’t apologize for laughing XD
Well, technically, Shugoki is a cheap character.
*he only costs 500 steel*
You know where the door is. Go.
On starter edition he costs 8k, give some respect to the man
@@spagootcunttimer3505 what? Really? Why?
well cause the starter edition is considerably cheaper and was free from i think the 12th to the 23th of august
Oh man, I wanted to comment that... Well, even 8000 steel are still a good amount cheaper than the dlc characters :p
Shugoki is S+ but we don't know how to play him
Step aside, Lawbringer
"agreed" - For Honor developers
You know that with good reactions, you can GB out of any attack with the hyper armor or parry combos that are normally guaranteed, right? I mean, yeah he's not great but he is really underestimated.
@@luivela4395 r/woosh
Is this a "developers about lawbringer" reference?
"Yo what is going on guys Tony here back at ya with another *unknown noise from an alien origin*"
Sounded like a bird to me
Toeknee is a alien bird confirmed 2018
Glide - TO * furry noises *
a highlander calling shugoki cheap, now i've seen everything
I saw a conqueror said "broken hero" to a centurion.
hah
Davikhiin I’ve seen people say Conq isn’t broken....
@@davikhiin... your identity has been exposed..
@@davikhiin i have being called a light spammer by and orochi wile playing warlord...
Your shugoki is an alpha male if I’ve ever seen one. He wears white into battle to symbolize how his skill is blinding and every step he takes quakes. He is a MASTAPIECE
6:14 He actually got hit with a fully charged heavy? uNfoRtuNAte
if you are close enough to your enemy it comes out really quick
Cheapest character is orochi light spam on console. Everyone else is cool. Lol.
Tyler Prevo true lol
Does no one play zerker on console?? Hes easily the best assassin in the game and i never see console players complain about him only pc players
@@NimaLema We see zerk in brawls/duels and relatively often in higher rep 4v4s
NimaLema he’s easy to counter orochi isn’t with those fast ass random ass lights it takes no skill either orochi is so annoying
zerk's fucking e z even on console, also LMAO easily the best? Glad's better, and shaman's just brokenly op
I have become a Shugoki main, us chunky thicc boys will banish all the thots.
S h i n y what do you play on
@@user-bo1eh2hh1d PC
I main the thicc boi, but have been headbutt spamming a lot as Warlord lately
headbutt spam is really fun non thicc boi for some reason no one thinks a shugoki will headbutt ever
My Ubisoft name is legit THOT_BANISHER lmao
I call this outfit of toeknees : “shine bright like a goki”😂💜
4:50 When your enemy parries everything you do. FeelsGoodMan
Alberto Godi so is that turtling or what I mean what classifys as a turtle
@@megaglalie5975 no turtling is only hitting after a parry
@@megaglalie5975 What south said turtling is sitting there waiting for a party and that is the only time you attack.
That's actually a cool kind of turtle. Real turtle is warlord / conq only blocking and spamming cheap, easy-to-land, hard-to-punish moves like headbutt / shield bash from time to time, maybe mixing it with 50/50 guardbreak.
>Calls Shugoki Cheap
>Plays Highlander who has one of the more punishing and hard to avoid mixups in the game
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You can avoid it 100% of the time with any character out of any state with a dodge+roll. The guy is an idiot for thinking Shugoki is cheap (though I do think demon's embrace is just an anti-fun mechanic personally, its still just Shugoki) but I definitely don't think Highlander even really registers on the cheap scale.
When That HighLander When To Aggressive Mode And realize Shugoki Still fuck him up
“AHHH MY ASS”
Get it? No? I’ll stop 😅
I like it.
I love it.
I want more of it!
Much love for our big boy ❤️ #shugolivesmatter
aCtUaLlY hEs nOt AlIvE
Gabriel Cabria
Neither is your sense of humor.
What did I say I dont even remember
That first round was probably the best fight I've ever seen.
Those Shugoki's who just turtle and wait for you to throw out any attack so they can trade, and do this all over again are annoying, but you are not one of them, so I don't know what that person's problem was.
Blackwolf Just GB to remove the hyperarmor, dont know how people keep forgetting this
Aggresive shugokis works only on retards who dont know how to block or parry but opponents that do know how to block or parry turtling is the efficient way. Its also the best way to play him.
Well the problem is...against a good player what can shugoki do but turtle? His lights can be parried by anyone and so can his heavies. The turtle meta is a problem but when you literally have nothing you can do without being countered and insanely punished there's nothing else you can do.
best outfit for shugo would def be some type of yellow green radiation hazzard shugoki because man shugo is so cheap he kills you and you dont even know it lol
liked my own comment come at me brother
I got toxic i think its called from tournament in season 4 i think
In the words of Alucrard in Hellsing Ultimate Abridged - "Hit me, fight me. Give me a hug"
You should make a "nightmare" Kensei/Shugoki with the death mist effects and make the characters a white and black theme. That would be cool! It would kind of be like a Phantom Kensei/Shugoki!
Yes yes yes yesYes yes yes yes
Finnaly shugoki gameplay
Nah, you just need to learn how to play Shugo.
I don't think you watched the video lol
@@ToeKnee I did but it was a reference to Roman's idea about Lawbringer. He is good, yes? Lol
Toeknee woosh
@@ToeKnee r/whoosh
Stops the fight to call you cheap in the middle of it, then proceeds to turtle and only GB. Just like that one HL I fought against as Centurion, although he would just only go into offensive stance and open with a kick, I would just light him out of it and then use heavies to keep him from doing it again. He told me to "stop ruining this game." Got matched with him again, he alt-f4'd on the loading screen.
interesting strategy for sure.
highlander needs kick speed nerf and his grab softfeint should only guarantee light or a heavy but heavy runs your stam to 0
viking fanboy above me
@@irishace9280 to be fair you did ask for some character breaking nerfs there friend, highland already doesnt have to much going on, i rather have something done about that stupid gladiator zone
Tru but HL needs something nerfed. The knights are the ones that need the biggest changes, they have the weakest and strongest heroes
Yo what is going on guys, toeknee here back at you with another “KAAAAA”
For me it definitely an " AAAARRK"
Toeknee makes shogoki look so dam sexy and nice that the opponents are stunned and lose making shogoki S-tier
I love Shugoki's rework. Passive hyper armour was annoying when playing as him. But that hug. Good times 😂
How to play shugoki and piss off everyone: jump off a check for ledge to lower your health then hug someone, repeats
You know they're making a new hero in season 12 his name is Toeknee.. looks pretty op
I mean, in fairness...During S6's "Hero's March" event, the Shugoki listed (forgot his name) WAS a cannibal. He talked about eating his enemies
Who would win? A grizzled veteran of the two-handed arts with a mighty blade that seconds only his spirit? Or one thicc boi?
He is tho because I played carousel of death and there was this one shugoki who broke everyone’s back as soon as they executed someone
Shudoki is an under-rated hero. He is one of the best, just boring and one dimensional. (Deff in 4v4) passive armor and one shot backbreaker make him versatile and his insane neutral heavys in 4v4 make him one of the best in team fights.
Passive armor is beaten by a guardbreak, and the demon's embrace is one of the easiest CC moves to dodge in the game.
After he calls you cheap he goes for the ledge kill over and over 😂
That first warden was me :) gg dude!
Shugoki will be op or really high tier after rework, mark my words.
I hope he doesn't become too op or top tier
@@hit6208 He's gonna be strong if they do it right, if they don't change hyper armor
@@meantoaster8037 The hyper amour is part of his playstyle so they shouldn't take it out.
@@hit6208 yeah hopefully they don't make any changes to the hyper armor
if they add shit to him his passive hyperarmor needs to go. Imagine Warlord with shugoki hp and passive hyperarmor.
Even tho he has like 5 moves, I really enjoy playing with thiccboi from time to time. Great vid my dude :)
"cheap"
When a highlander the cheapest hero tells shugoki that he's cheap
That Warden match was intense.
Yo guys toeknee come back at you again with another BAGUAK
11:32 "YOU ARE NOT HOUND OF TARA"
6:45 Oh good I was worried this wasn't a real Toeknee vidya.
Always at least once my dude
I find the Shugoki limited in his options, and I agree with you in most regards on the topic of Shugoki. But the Demon's Embrace one-shot is a little silly. Especially in Dominion, when one can just gank in from the side and do that. Great vid :D
Oh I agree, the "i can't fucking move" moves in dominion are so dumb. Demon's imbrace, Raiders stampede, Shinobi ranged GB.
Glad you agree XD
OMG I so agree with you! He only has one hit that can one shot you whereas most have er... NONE
4:17 we take those
We DoNt KnOw hOw To PlAy HiM*
Remember when shugoki could 1 shot you from a heavy parry
8:00 no joke i actually have parried a guaranteed second light with shugoki. It was on accident tho i basically spammed my heavy at the same time he light attacked and I got hit then he randomly got parried so atleast i think its possible
Edit: Also its not cannibalism if its not another shugoki!
Maybe it just has some weird timing that I am unaware of
@@ToeKnee yeah
Great vid! Hoping to see more advanced shugoki outfits (wink wink mask wink wink)
All Shugo really needs to do is fall flat on his opponents and crush em alive, simple really
A few of those mask would look really good on Kenai
(Gets Demon’s Embraced one single time)
RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
He typed that really freaking quick 😳
The thing I do is faint your firsr unblockable heavy and then use your unblockable heavy
Shu is really easy to beat once you realize how to keep his hyper armor down.
ToeKnee sounds like the mooses from brother bear
Shugo is busted, but not in an OP way, but in a way that makes him tedious to use and play against. It's a shame because I prefer heavy/tank characters and plus Shugo has that thicc boi swag.
I competely agree. Makes it hard on both sides
Toeknee There are some interesting rework ideas on the for honor reddit, and the devs do visit the site so maybe they'll listen. Though it's more likely they'll just nerf him again.
@@coryburkhart8433 "Hmm it seems Shugoki is in dire need of a rework... Better nerf him again." *types*
love u toeknee❤❤ got my shugo to rep 3 in honour of u
The title is at 14:02
Wtf? That first battle you did 1000dmg with the demon's embrace! Jebus!
It's genuinely fucking amazing that people get mad and call Shugo broken
He's objectively at the very bottom of the tier list, people are just mad because they aren't used to playing seriously against him because so few people have the patience to master him, and thusly serious Shugoki players are a fucking endangered species with how rare they are
ShugokiCheap as next Uplay name
5:22
Has Toeknee heard of the feint button?
yo what is going on toeknee back at you again with another *bird call*
Its kinda funny how i was using highlander and i fought and orochi light spamming..i then did the overhead heavy spam cuz highlanders HAS SOOO MUCCCHHHH STAMMMIINNNNAAAA.
How many times are you gunna say "Gimme that" "ill take that"
gimmie that
ill take that
I guess it's just become part of my language lol, I repeat stuff a lot
Man D tier shugoki is too strong, my S class highlander just doesn't have any mix-ups, cool combos, or some sort of stance that completely changes my moveset.
was in a zerk vs zerk fight. they did nothing but whiff light into unblockable mix up, I most used paired blades mix up and the unblockable once. they put themselves out of stam and got knocked down twice while I never let my self run out. and yet *they* called *me* bad at berserker?
some people just make no sense
That intro my god
Smexy rotund fellow you have there
Shugoki isn’t cheap, since every attack is balanced except Dragons Embrace (the back break move) which is one of the most overpowered moves in the game, but is balanced out by his slowness
I spam Demons Embrace when I'm fighting near my team. Distract my victims and hug them ;)
I honestly think he is one of the more balanced heroes available as he is easily parried, fairly easy to dodge and honestly i think if he didnt have hyper armor he would be one of the worst heroes as unless he guard breaks or parries he has almost no way to attack
Should be able to GB when warden is charging the shoulder charge lol
you can but you almost have to predict the start up, they should increase the time
Not enough headbutt
Are you playing on pc with an xbox controller? Is the xbox controller more effective than mouse and keyboard? I use a trackball mouse but have been considering an xbox controller.
I've had people send me hate messages or invite me to parties to scream at mefor playing the fat man. Idk why everyone hates him,he just wants to love you.
Shegoki doesn't require any skill
Boom roasted
A gentleman's agreement haha
What a sweaty warden
They needa add a “of course” txt for when mfs choose cheap ass characters or being toxic
Don’t worry you can dodge the highlander mix up as shugoki he’s too much of a big body
For the love of God toeknee, get your wallsplat heavies!
I suck I sorry
They only deal up to 5 more damage than a demon's embrace
#ReworkShugoki💜
More like give shugoki an actual moveset
dankdamundi honestly I’ll take any kind of improvement, it seems like they will delay doing anything to him for as long as possible or maybe try not to even pay attention to how much he needs SOMETHING. He has basically nothing but his hyper armor now and his hugs... two things against other characters who have so much more. No other character has so less except for lawbringer, and even he has more than shugoki. Law and goki both needs reworks and updates...that they may never get.
@@FRVRGTTN
Yeah. It makes me sad that pk and beserker got "reworks" before lb and shugo. Goes to show how little ubi cares about heavys
@@armintor2826 lawbringer is a hybrid not a heavy.
@@Shadesoftheshadows
I know but he looks plays and feels more like a heavy than conq
4:20 That fool got fucked 😂😂😂😂 full hp vs 1 hp shugoki
OK ok ok that first match was a #feelsbadman for that warden...damn 1000 dmg LOL
Marine Hoe why did it do a 1000 damage?
A Tier Highlander calling D tier Shugoki "Cheap" Likely story.
BLOCK HEADBUTT
In my opinion they should make a nerf on demon charge ( that one move that breaks your back ).
1 to don't do that much damage and still regenerate a little of life.
Or number 2
2 do that much damage but no life regeneration.
What you guys think ?
Mains Shugokis don't get mad at me lol just an opinion.
Shugo somehow nets all the bm from other players.. lol
I think he’s only really cheap if you really abuse the demons embrace
Thats gonna change tomorrow
*I BET SHAMAN ISN'T A CANNIBAL EITHER*
The fact that shugoki second heavy does 30 damage is a joke. I sometimes have violent daydreams about ubisoft balance team members. And then I realize it's just a game and I'm behaving like a psychopath...
I played against a very toxic Warden a few days ago.... I'm currently trying out a few new heroes and I was playing my glorious rep 0 Conqueror (He was.... rep 7 Warden? I think so...) aaand i got pretty close, final round, both almost dead... and then he charged, I dodged and bashed. And then we BOTH panicked and threw out the same move over and over again, until he died, 'cause shieldbash into top light beats top heavy. Well..... I learned a lot of adjectives for describing a spammer on this day.
All wardens are toxic,they will all rage when they lose but they will all spam the shit out their OP shield bash
With their incredible shouldershield.
@@GumshoeClassic my favourite thing to do as warden is cancel the SB inro GB,it catchea 80 percent of the players and I almost never use the shield bash,only against people who spam it against me
Imagine if his bash was really a Shieldbash, not just with his shoulder. I imagine a Warden who strapped the shields from Conqueror and Gladiator on his shoulder, with duct tape or smth like that. And he did the same thing with Peacekeeper's blades, they're on his helmet, like Antlers, and his weapon is Lawbringers halberd with Wardens sword as the spike on the top and Centurion's glove holding his gladius on the other end.
Warden 101: if you lose. Blame it on them
I die laughing every time somebody says shugoki is any kind of strong which is ironic. *warden takes any kind of damage and the response is always shoulder bash*
I dont like that I have to spam GB to remove their armor every 5 seconds, and just get bad trades because they know they can let stupid attacks fly during armor.
Make a all green Shrek {clears throat} i mean a shugoki.
I love you toeknee
I love you
Oh my what sword is that warden using in the first fight? sexy boi