Oulton Park Track Battle! K20 DC2 vs High Comp B18 DC2!
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- Опубліковано 24 жов 2016
- Everyone welcome Olly to the channel! His seriously well spec'd high comp B18 DC2 come up to Oulton Park at the weekend to have a play. It was only right that we stuck a couple of GoPros in the cars and went for a play, right?
Full engine spec of the B18 can't really be disclosed. Built by a company called RaceDNA in the UK, they like to keep their cards close to their chest. All I can say is, it's bloody fast for a B18 on pretty much stock gearing! - Авто та транспорт
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Never stop the Eurobeat and Best Motoring references. It's awesome lol
+Bimmer Bomber haha I don't plan to stop! Glad you like it.
The B18's cornering in looks really sharp, the steering is pretty direct. Going out of the corner the gearing slows it down I guess As usual your runs are great to watch. Was a fun battle!
The B18 seems to push much less than the K series, looks to have a sharper turn in too
Running with evenly matched friend at the track = best fun ever. Nice footage.
K2.OL vs B1.8, I would like to see a B20vtec on that Dc2 would be a different story
*hot version intensifies*
+Victor Z32 haha!
loving the best motoring style start.
Hot Version / Best Motoring start to the video - Oh no Danny's found some video fx / overlays....lolol Great battle, nice edit of the footage shame about the sound from Olly's video. Thumbs up!
Hahaha!!! I got carried away for sure. No idea why the sound went to shit from Ollys car. Must have picked up a vibration from somewhere :(
That k series sound so chill and relaxing... think I’ll do a k swap one of these days.
That Eurobeat intro!!!! Another great video. Glad you had fun
+Source Pan thanks man, glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for sharing Danielsan
:D
I've driven both and own a fa5 k series engines just seem to feel like they don't have to try as hard. It shows in the video. K all day great video man.
Love your vids keep them coming!
love playing your track videos on surround sound. it feels like im in the back seat with you guys, lol.
+azburnouts haha awesome! Sorry about the sound quality from Ollys car, hope it didn't ruin the experience..
If they were weighted the same and the bseries had a 2.0 stroker kit with a 5.0 fd and a long 3rd that race would have had a better play but it was awwesome to see awaesome as always DannyDc2!!!
Love vids like this! Keep it up 👍🏼
@Dannydc2 it's interesting to watch this video in comparison to the Cadwell k24 vs dc2 as you crossed hand on steering wheel at Cadwell. Nice video
really need 2 sort my b18, was that a re cam/re map? stripping my b18 and exedy clutch n flywheel made noticeable difference helping the lil 1.8.
duuuuude I have been wanting a k20 dc2 vs a b18 dc2 for so fucken long now thank you my good sir! really nice seeing how the cars differ in different areas.
No worries man! Keep in mind that this is no ordinary B series though!
Love these HVI type videos!
Nice driving from everyone....
Like the editing as well... good job
+Ian H thanks Ian!
Cracking video.. great tunes.. amazing driving...
+Ty Brissett cheers Ty 👍
Love the K20A2 in my turbo RSX-S
Olly's Integra's turn-in is insane! What is this attributed to? Spring rates? Alignment? Steering ratio?
It's mainly down to alignment, spring rates are pretty similar. I'm running a fair bit negative camber up front with toe out at both end.
Need a rematch now i have a gear kit! Haha!
yes
this..
What trans were you running on that video?
Marc-André Dumont female->male
Loved the Hot Version style opening at the beginning of the vid!
Thanks :)
If swapping for track, would you recommend k20a or k24a2.
k20 allday long! b18 still a good engine tho
have to say i got 2 peugeot track cars but i absolutely adore your videos. keep on and have a nice season 2017!
thanks man! I do love the French cars too.. :)
really loving the 60fps... nice vid man i cant get enough
+God0fMe now that you've said it, the 60fps does make a nice difference doesn't it!
DannyDC2 yes man so smoother!
also check my videos if you have any minute im that friend bryan demers keeps talking of to you on fb we speaked once if i remember!
love the hot version editing style
how much does your car weigh?
some good raceing there but I think u would have had him on the corners if u had the 6two1 sticker on your helmet
hahaha!! I have one on the front of my helmet :)
Yo that b series revs to the moon what the hell!
yo danny you is a great driver , badass swap, for me the best honda engine with f20c ^^ i possed a ep3 30th and ek4 ferio ^^ good vlog^^ enjoy^^ HONDA POWER!!!!
amazing cars
K is the way! Love your car bro
I like the shift linkage in the b series and the trans.. k series not a fan of the shift box or trans although I do like that it's a 6spd and the k series is updated
respect your elders !
Great video Danny. Keep it up
Thanks!
Always gotta check the oil for them b series lol
King Dc hells yea lmao
Should check your oil in any engine it’s neglectful not to
The B sounds like it has more grunt for sure but the K sounds so smooth
Cracking video!
Have you thought about going to tracks like Castle Combe, and LLandow? The Teg would suit Llandow I think!
I've been down to Combe before. It's a good track but it's pretty far for me to go, considering we have these tracks up 'north!
Very true! I'm a south westener so Coombe is quite close to me! Oulton is on the list!
Has the b18c got a baffled sump?
Loved the video !!! but be aware of the clipping sound 😕 I'm sure it will destroy some speakers and headphones
I want to ask something here. Anybody can explain why the front tire is more width than the rear ? I know these car are fwd. But, is this won't make the car will be unbalance at the corner? Are this setup will not make the rear tire won't have lose grip earlier than the front ? Sorry , i doesn't have any experience on track and my car is only perodua kancil with a fucking 39hp. But , my car is also fwd tho, I just want to know why danny chose these setup
Your car looks a lot better and more relaxing to drive or you're the better driver
hi can i ask about the geometry of the circuit?
More Understeer on the B18 and your gear ratios help a huge amount !
Saw the two cars lapping on the day. Didnt realise it was you guys or would have come over for a chat..
The good times when the integra was running 🥹
Sick!
Love the initial d Esk music at the start
+Vincenzo thanks 😊
What is the song called at the start of the video
did you use Dixcel RA pads on front and rear? and how are they compared other pads youve used?
+fgbfghrtbsg no only on front, stock pads on rear. They are really good!
I LOVE THIS VIDEO!!.
+Strictly Battlefield I'm happy to hear that!
That extra gear seems to make a big difference danny. What cold tyres pressures do you usually start with?
Usually 28 cold to start with mate!
Need to get into a championship racing
Very good video. There's b-Series engines that can embarrass the K series, but at the end of the day the K is the better engine. Has all the improvements the b series lacks. But.. I personally like to own the b18c better though.
sick
ace battle Dan, because of you I really want a Dc2 now!
You won't regret it :)
going from a mk4 1.8 astra SRi to a dc2 is a big jump tho lol was thinking of an ep3 as a stop gap. What's your actual thoughts on an ep3?
I had a Astra G 1.8 16v!!! Up the Z18XE... Loved that car. Was my first 'proper' car. EP3s are awesome man. Good fun cars.
Haha ace!! it's a "good" car much like your audi just slow and getting old. you and your videos have inspired me to get some form of vtec in my life! I think an ep3 would be a good stepping stone to a dc2, however a friend of mine has a dc1 and that's a sick car aswell!!
man thats a monster bseries
Great vid as always. Better than watching formula 1! lol. Ever been to ten of the best at elivington airfield Danny? I think you and the dc2 would do well on the handling circuit.
I wouldn't mind giving that a go! I've been TOTB but never entered...
k swap defo had the edge,keep up with the great vids mate👍
Thanks mate! :)
is there a weight Advantage with the 1.8 liter?
the 2.0 kseries is actually a little bit lighter than the 1.8 bseries, it even slants backwards imrpoving weight distribution (i think) kseries is definitely a little lighter though
Spec cars??
nice dude
eurobeat? btw loved the vid Danny
No replacement for displacement 😉
deja vu!
what does the k20 vs b18 do on weight? and does that change the balance?
Cedric Vreekamp K20 weighs more and it doesn't really change much in balance, just have a good tune
Jorge Arias from what I've heard, K20 is actually lighter (lighter flywheel, block etc), than the more old school B18
Mikael K o really? I honestly didn't know that
K20 is lighter... the gearbox is slightly heavier than a B series box though (it is bigger, 6 speed), so the weight ends up being about the same.
i cried 😍
Hey dannydc2, Mind sharing the music on the start ? Got Hot version feel man! Cheers mate. 👍👍👍
+Nightkids Tay if you search "Set Me Free Babe - Hot Version" you will find it! 😊
So much difference between them. just been up to coxys who saw you there. he's cutting his ep3 bits trying get down to a 1.59 😂😂
+Simon Danylyk was that the silver one? I saw him getting some crazy oversteer if so haha
DannyDC2 no he wasn't in his car. he just had a chat with you. his is black. does 2.06 round oulton although that's passenger and just the rear stripped. was gutted I couldn't get up but got roped into work. maybe next time.
is that an A45 AMG that you guys were hounding ??????? both these Tegs are awesome ....
Yeah it was, I think he was on a cool down though. Would have been good to have a proper play with it!
Best motoring intro!
both cool as f#$k cars but i do love a k20 💪
K all day (and this coming from a B18C owner).
Rails!
I was about to say they'll copyright claim that intro music, but then I remember reading a while back you didn't care about the money
I recently owned a JDM DC2 type R integra and now have a JDM DC5 type R and i can honestly tell you the K20A is far better than the B18 in every single way. A far superior engine
wrong. the b18c type r engine makes 200 hp stock, same as a k20 stock. the b18 also revs higher 8500-9000p rpm stock where as the k20 only revs to 8000 stock. b18c is a superior motor but is hels back by the 5 speed
@@brucelee7283 wrong the K20 you speak of is K20a2 with 200hp it has lower compression, less aggressive cams, longer gear ratios, heavier flywheel and no lsd and normally found in type R that were sold in other countries other than Japan, such as England and Australia. They are far from the performance of a JDM K20a which has 217hp and a factory 8500rpm limiter which is easily raised to 9000rpm with a tuned ecu. There have been multiple comparison videos done by none other than Keiichi Tsuchiya himself pitting the DC2R against the DC5R and the DC5R is faster in every way. And in terms of modifications the K series makes far more power per mod over a B series. Have owned both a DC2R and a JDM import EP3R, once you go K youll never go back to a B series.
@@SR22VET-S15 oh yeah you right i was thinking of the acura integra type s that we have in USA. we never got the type r here. true jdm k20A does make more power, but they are kind of hard to import and buy for me so i can never get one
@@brucelee7283 doesnt really matter if its a k20a2 either, even though stock the k20a2 is 200hp it still makes alot more torque than a b18c7, once modded the k20a2 will make more power mod for mod over a b18c7 and once tuned the rev limiter is easily raised to 9000rpm on a k20a2. Ive seen k20a pull 30whp more than the b18c7 mod for mod (intake, header, exhaust, tune) not knocking on the b series, its a legendary engine and can still hold its own very well, just out dated by today's standards compared to a K series.
@@SR22VET-S15 na the b18c is better than the k20a2 for sure. of course the k20 makes a little more torque because its a 2.0 liter vs the b18c 1.8 liter. but horsepower/rpm is more important in races, not daily driving. and the k20a does not make more power mod for mod. many tuned NA b18c motors make between 200-230 whp with basic mods on pump gas. many tuned NA k20's make around the same hp as well with basic mods. but of course with serious mods (14:1 compression, dual itb's, etc) both motors can reach 300 whp. and tuned b18c motors rev to 10k giving it superiority over the k20a2
It’s just verse brw
B18 😈
Passys big ol head kinda messed the vid up a bit but other than that, that was a pretty sweet run
Gawddamn...the b-series is just so damn gutless. Its especially noticeable on the uphill section, and for the gap to increase by that much over 1 lap is kinda embarrassing!
C Swiss with all do respect they are both great. Mate the b18 to the same 5.1 final 6 speed tranny and it would be very close.
K car is a good bit lighter with gearing advantage. Obviously it's going to accelerate quicker.
Man this video makes it hard for me, go built b18cr or k20a swap it 😣
ampedex
K20a absolutely
b18cr and k20 make the same 200 hp stock... and b18 revs much higher giving it rpm advantage ut is just held back by 5 speed
@@brucelee7283 k20a makes 220hp
i think car pretty much the same . but the k20 driver have better lines IMO.
Hot version touge MAX lol
B18 allday.... until i get my k swap ;)
the vid needs more intense eurobeat!
The speedo in the B18 DC2 is a bit optimistic :)
KMH...
So its actually going 240km/h in 5th gear at 3:15 ? Or 260, I don't know how high the speedo on a DC2 goes... But its maxed out right there in the video
Speedo goes to 180kmh on JDM DC2, as it's the speed limit in Japan! (or was at the time)
It has japanese cluster so it's only 180km/h on the clock.
That explains a lot!
This is such an unfair battle lol 😂 you have a bigger engine and more torque and a lighter car.
Power and torque are about the same mate... I am lighter though! (about 50kg)
what has he done to the engine to get the same power?
As said in description, it's a RaceDNA built engine. 248bhp.
Ah ok. I was going to compare because i'm in the middle of a build.
Did he go straight to a dyno?or just cry all the way home
it looks like it's down in BHP.
+burghs1 not really, just has extra weight and the gearing isn't as short!
why short shift at 4.48 minute when you clearly could of had him show no mercy your turn or not to lead😛😛
This is also 5 speed vs 6 speed
what benefit do you think this gives?
K20 seems faster in straight line 🤣 witch means has no point to have a k series and upgrade better to a B20Vtec that for sure smokes to that K20
Keep the beard
+CampervAndy haha, it comes and goes! Until I can grow a proper one.. 😉
Don’t k build b20 or b2.2 then rematch
B18 still better
Yours is lighter than b18
B18 sounds better