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Tommy Agro used to brag if he’d take out the third brother he’d hit the Desimone trifecta. Tommy D knew he’d get wack at some point, he even had that solo picture with that devilish smirk taken for his own obituary.
Tommy Desimone and Stacks's Edwards were close friends, this is why Tommy was chosen to whack him, because of their being so close.Thats how they to you-
Paul Vario would kill his victim and stuff them in refrigerator for transportation then brought to his junkyard and crushed.. DeSimone killed Foxy a member of the Gambino and also a close friend of John Gotti.. DeSimone was dating Foxy’s sister, he was warned to stay away from her , he refused so Foxy went to DeSimone’s home to confront him, Foxy clocked DeSimone and fell to the ground he pulled his gun and shot him in the face .. DeSimone was going to be made , when he arrived to the ceremony John Gotti was waiting , John shot him 3 times and walked out .. Agro did kill Anthony DeSimone .. Tommy DeSimone’s body was buried in Lindenwood the famous dumping ground of John Gotti , the same area the 3 capo’s bodies were revealed ordered to be killed by Rustelli
A long time ago I talked to a Blackjack dealer that had been in Vegas for years. He said "Casinos were better when the mob ran them, people knew your name, celebriries would play free shows at the bars, etc" That's crazy to me, but he knew.
Something to wonder about: if Jimmy Burke really did sell out DeSimone to the Gotti crew, would they have asked themselves if Jimmy had known or been involved with either of the two murders of Bentvena and Jerothe? He must have been really careful with his words.
The dude was a lunatic! His actions were not only a liability to Burke, but everyone in that crew. You gotta ask yourself, was his earning capability worth the ulcers and tensions with other organizations?
Some research points that is was Burke and Vario together who dimed DeSimmone out. Vario obviously was the intermediary with the Gambinos. Vario wanted him gone because allegedly he tried to rape Henry Hills wife (who Vario was having an affair with while Hill was in prison). Also, no way Vario didn’t know about the Billy Batts murder and between him and Burke DeSimmone was thrown to the wolves
The thing that bothers me is how could Tommy be made if he had such a bad Reputation I also believe he met up with Jimmy at his house and that's where Jimmy killed him wouldn't be hard to have the body picked up and disposed of elsewhere from Jimmy's house Henry was in Florida when Tommy went missing
@@derekforbes5520 I agree no way they could of got Tommy without Jimmy. Seems they were really afraid of Tommy I mean who wouldn't be so they needed him to be with Jimmy at Jimmy house to be off guard
Totally have to agree with you on this rather cogent breakdown of what happened with DeSimone Jeff. Jimmy Burke was putting himself in a more precarious position with Tommy, it certainly was smarter to unload him and move on than to go further down the road with that madman. Another banger dropped on a Saturday afternoon bro, great info!
Yeah I'd have to agree..its good to have a shooter or two in the crew..guys willing to put in work when its needed..but an unhinged, trigger happy, psychopath, with an unpredictable temper, was much more of a liability for Burke, than a benefit.
Looking at that chainsaw brings back a memory about "Teresa Ferrera" She's definitely would be an interesting video if you have enough information about her she was a 27-year-old really hot looking hairdresser from Ozone Park..She was married to a guy named Steven and then she got divorced..She started hanging around Roberts Lounge,Suite Lounge a couple other places selling Quaaludes and cocaine..She dated Tommy DeSimone she got involved in some crazy..I know why & how it happened.. I cannot remember Henry Hill ever mentioning her in Goodfellas..I heard Jimmy Burke ordered her hit.. definitely a hottie for 1979...
It's said that Jimmy took over a lot of Billy bats rackets when Billy went to prison and that he was trying to take the rackets back from Jimmy and that's what they say that Billy was killed over. It's said that John Gotti was the one who killed Tommy over the murder of billy bats
Wow!! I am so happy I subscribed to your channel... Because your content go so deep,, it is always the most informative and you seem to always put out information that the public was not privy too,. well at least I wasn't anyway. I just want to say keep up the great work,, like I said I am so happy I catch as many episodes as possible actually myself and my girlfriend we both love the show. Peace my good man and please keep them coming.....
Nothing like listening to another great "Sitdown" video, while doing my research/placing bets for the Sunday games. I ended up added Syracuse to my slate yesterday after I saw your blog. Crazy ending, but a win is a win.
I just researched Tommy DeSimone's immediate and extended family. There were too many murders, committed here in NYS and California, for one family to withstand. You would think they would have gotten the memo quickly, and abandoned any aspirations of LCN ascendancy and stardom. Like I always say: That life sucks.
Good video , fun fact Bruno facciolo brother was an associate with the Gambinos and his niece was in the TV show mob wives Carla facciolo and was married to a bonanno associate
I always thought that Tommy was dating Fox's sister and he heard that Tommy was allegedly abusing her, so he went over to the apartment and had a conversation with Tommy and the end result was Fox was killed. Dont know for sure...can anyone help me out?
I heard the same thing. Heard Foxy punched him and knocked Tommy down. Tommy than shot him in head. Believe I read about in the book " The Sinatra Club ".
Foxy and Tommy used to be friends while Tommy was in prison foxy was sleeping with his wife Tommy got wind of it and dated his sister til she didn't wanna be with him no more due to his wild temper so he beat her up she went and told foxy and well the rest fill itself out
Heard Tommy DeSimone`s body was dumped at " The Hole" in howard beach in queens a familiar burial ground site for some mob guys maybe something you could look into jeff , Awesome video bro look forward to the next one .
I heard that somewhere about Spider's body...that it was dumped in sink hole in Howard Beach somewhere. But I also heard that there isn't much evidence to suggest that Spider ever really existed in real life either. I guess it depends on how believable you think Henry Hill is 🤷♂️
Thomas Agro & Facciolo took Tommy to the Philadelphia scrap yard put him in a car crusher..Agro said Bye-bye Tommy from there he went to the Philadelphia steel mill where he was melted down with the rest of the cars..
It all connects how Gotti could be responsible with DeSimone's death because it's historical fact Gotti had been the Capo of the Bergin Crew since 1975. So Gotti with the power within his own Family with his own crew and a very much alive Delacroce I can see them approaching Paul Vario and Jimmy basically selling him out to be the fall guy. You see no one fought or openly felt any kinda way when he was killed so it makes sense
Paul Vario gave up Tommy D to the Gambinos for the Billy Bats murder that he and Jimmy committed in Henry’s place in Queens . Just like in the movie they did have a verbal exchange and Billy Bats insulted Tommy D but that’s not the only reason he killed him.Jimmy Burke took over Billy Bats loansharking and gambling rackets when he went to the can , so when he got released Jimmy didn’t want to give them back so that’s why they killed Billy Bats . Jimmy Burke was a real good earner and he was a associate to the Lucchese but he also was a associate with the Gambinos and it was thru the Bergen hunting and fishing club but not John Gotti because he wasn’t even made yet , he was a associate of. Charlie Wagons who put Gotti in as a acting captain while Wagons served his prison sentence. No one knew what happened to Billy Bats after he went missing because no one witnessed the argument Tommy D and he had , the only other two people that were there were Jimmy and Henry so as far as the Gambinos are concerned he went missing . When Henry was in jail for that debt collection thing in Tampa that went bad for him and Jimmy his wife Karen started to have a affair with Paulie and Tommy wanted some of her to but she turned him down so he beat her up and tried to rape her , this got back to Paulie from Karen so Tommy was dead they just needed a reason other then Paulie was mad he tried to rape his side piece who happened to be Henry’s wife. Paulie knew about the Bats murder but stayed quiet about it because of Jimmies involvement , Jimmy just made too much money for Paulie so he just gave the Gambinos Tommy’s name and they did kill him but it wasn’t John Gotti who did it , some person who isn’t famous did it but I can’t remember his name but he also had killed Tommy’s older brother for being a rat and even made a comment that Tommy has one more brother who isn’t involved in crime so it’s a shame he won’t be able to kill all three of the Desimone brothers but I’ll settle for two .
@@mrbig4532 wow so put together it all makes sense. I still see Gotti having a hand in it I say a member of his crew did it. Cuz Tommy was killed in 78 right something like that by then Gotti was definitely Made and a Capo of the old Wagons crew. But with the addition of everything you explained put together it all makes sense. Thank you bro for the information
Another option on Desimone corpse. It wouldn't surprise me if it was chopped up bye the Demeo crew. They probably didn't fo the hit, but disposing of the body as a favor to John Gotti.
If you think about it, why would you drive a body 100 miles to Philly when you had local places to get rid of it. Seems like an un needed risk. Like Hoffa being in the conceete of the Trump Towers or other places hundreds of miles away from Detroit when there was plenty of 'local' places. Everyones looking for their 15 mins. Of fame.
From what I’ve read a guy called tommy agro whacked DeSimone. He was a solider in the gambino family down in Florida (ran the books down there.) and he was close to castalleno
Jeff is right about their being no picture of billy batts. There is a pic of "batts" out there but is really pat "the cat" spiritio. A gangster out of philly i thought it was batts for a while till i found that out. Great research nadu thanks for getting me out from under my rock 👍💯 Oh also i think since it was gambino crew members involved with his death I theorize that after agro and gotti were done with him maybe they had demeo and his crew help get rid of his body, just a theory though.
Great content. I’ve watched a few of your UA-cam videos and you’re very thorough. I have a small request, I noticed you are using the word auspice which is grammatically incorrect the way your using it. It should be auspices. As in Tommy worked in a crew under the auspices of Paulie.
Good vid, not sure if tommys birthrate was accurate. Saw an arrest article in late 60s that said he was 23. Also heard it was foxys sister that tommy was dating, but who knows.
I love seeing the different pictures of the personalities involved. Some of these guy's can really throw daggers at the camera! He says Richard "The Pfffft-HA Iceman" Kuklinski was also involved in disposing Desimone's body at the scrap yard. Which makes me discredit this whole account. Of all the made up killings Kuklinski was supposed to have committed, then bragged about, I don't recall him ever talking about this.
Michael Franzese, Sonny’s kid said flat out he never heard of kuklinski from any mob associates! And I believe him! He’s gone straight, never snitched and was a bid earner in the gas business for the mob! He has no reason to lie bout kuklinski!
Love this story abt 2 guns tommy , felt sorry for him as jimmy was equally to blame for billy batts Death , just jimmy was more respected by Vario , to me Vario gave up Tommy to Gotti
I may be wrong but two guys who were close to Gotti were killed by Two gun Tommy DeSimone and DeSimone wasn't a made man and if Gotti killed him he waited until Tommy was in a sense hog tied and secured, I'm guessing Johnny boy was a bit fearful of Two gun Tommy .
I think vario played more of a role in tommys demise than burke, if burke even had any. Vario letting gotti kill him makes sense but I think it was varios crew who did it in the end since it'd be alot cleaner having 1 crew involved instead of 2 especially with all of the heat going on with lufthansa
Because he tried to rape Henry hills wife and Paulie was sleeping with Karen so it would make sense if he did because he never really liked Tommy to begin with
In the movie the Sinatra club Tommy was messing with dude foxy sister and was beating on her and when foxy came to confront Tommy, Tommy shot him in the head
Jeff, wasn't Spider actually working off a gambling or loan debt owed to Jimmy Burke by working as a bartender at Robert's lounge (i.e., Jimmy's poker games)? Just something I heard. Great video!!!
@@tonyhill6541 Yeah, he was real. When Henry Hill was on the Howard Stern, Spider's sister called the show and called Henry everything but a White man.
Facciola was killed by Casso as the maniac did with so many accused him of being a rat but I think diarco also mentions a inside that where facciola or his brother killed some black guy in the Canarsie markets you have any info on that and diarco also mentions that he would go to a real old timers house in Canarsie while he was acting boss
I believe Jimmy set that killing up and told he shot the made man and Tommy was gone. Tommy used to shine shoes as a boy and the joke was, he told Tommy to shine his shoes, that's no joke to me
Loved this didn't thinki would as I'm not interested in him don't ask me why I just don't feel like watching stuff on hi but this was awesome great jeffthanks bro
Pretty sure you got wrong man who took his mask of in lufhansa heist it was one of the guys guarding the hostages in the cafeteria ....that is from Henry hill but also I read it someplace but I'm sure it wasn't tommy
My two favorite scenes of Joe Peci in Goodfellas is 1) When he cracks the owner of the lounge with a bottle and right before say.. " you know your a real fucking mut!🤣" and 2) at his mothers house , I like this painting, one dogs looking one way, the other dogs looking the other way, and this guy's saying, whad'ya want from me!"😅😅 love it!
I was laughing when after he kills Maury in the car: "GET THE F..K OTTA HERE, WARM UP THE CAR!!! GET OTTA HERE!"🤣🤣🤣 Also, after he kills Stacks: "Make that coffee to go!" Pesci was awesome in Goodfellas!
Agro did indeed kill Desemone. John Ghotti was not there at all. When the hit was ok-ed at a sit down, Paul Vario said 'we take our own trash out". Meaning he okays the hit but they'll take care of it.
I believe Gotti definitely was not only in on him being killed but that he at the very least was involved in torturing tommy. Rules aside he had killed 2 close friends of Gotti. Gotti by this time was acting boss i believe and wasn't even an made member. So he obviously had tons of respect from everyone in the family including other families. No way Gotti didn't take this personally. I think gotti killed him.
I’ve always read much like his first victim there is no evidence of “spider” the Michael imperioli character in real life. Credit to you for taking Henry hill with a pinch of salt and saying as much.
"Hit that SUBSCRIBE button below now..." What's up, Jeff? That button you're pointing to is not below your right hand. Please point to it with your left hand and I'm sure you'll get even more subscribers. Great show!
Yeah it's hard to believe criminals. "The Irishman" was all lies, even the FBI told the director the crimes he was admitting too were false. A good movie, but embellished as hell.
John Gotti’s crew killed Tommy they tortured him then they killed put his body in acid bath. Because Tommy killed foxy one of gotti’s boys that was like a son to John gotti
How is there not even a booking photo/mug shot of Billy? Or a family member at least after all of this time sharing one. This guy's like an E.T. Nobody can get a pic of him. As far as Tommy goes I think Gotti had him put in "The Hole." Seems to me he's the type that would enjoy knowing exactly where he resided. So he could say "Hi." Every now and then. Especially considering it was such a personal hit. Besides, why risk driving a body all the way out to Philly? There's a million scrapyards and bodies of water right where they were.
Hope you enjoy this video. Sadly UA-cam felt it was too violent and yet again won’t monetize it.
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is there many videos on tommy d
have u ever did a video on john gotti ?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
UA-cam can kiss my arse
@@joeybaby2505 why ??
@@greyjedi6430 cause their algorithms for monetization suck balls, esp if you aren't promoting liberal stuff...
@@greyjedi6430 YT felt this story was too violent.
The only thing I knew about Tommy's murder before this vid was that "there was a problem and there was nothing we could do about it."
He’s gone.
What do u mean he’s gone.
He’s gone, he’s dead, he ain’t coming back.
And that's that.
Tommy Agro used to brag if he’d take out the third brother he’d hit the Desimone trifecta.
Tommy D knew he’d get wack at some point, he even had that solo picture with that devilish smirk taken for his own obituary.
Tommy Desimone and Stacks's Edwards were close friends, this is why Tommy was chosen to whack him, because of their being so close.Thats how they to you-
Is it true that he really didn't want to kill stacks because they were friends
Paul Vario would kill his victim and stuff them in refrigerator for transportation then brought to his junkyard and crushed.. DeSimone killed Foxy a member of the Gambino and also a close friend of John Gotti.. DeSimone was dating Foxy’s sister, he was warned to stay away from her , he refused so Foxy went to DeSimone’s home to confront him, Foxy clocked DeSimone and fell to the ground he pulled his gun and shot him in the face .. DeSimone was going to be made , when he arrived to the ceremony John Gotti was waiting , John shot him 3 times and walked out .. Agro did kill Anthony DeSimone .. Tommy DeSimone’s body was buried in Lindenwood the famous dumping ground of John Gotti , the same area the 3 capo’s bodies were revealed ordered to be killed by Rustelli
A long time ago I talked to a Blackjack dealer that had been in Vegas for years. He said "Casinos were better when the mob ran them, people knew your name, celebriries would play free shows at the bars, etc" That's crazy to me, but he knew.
I got a bit of a cold chill when you said they tortured him. That must have been one rough night.
This should have way more views! Great short anyway! 👍👍👍
Wow, thanks!
Great mafia story brother!!!
Something to wonder about: if Jimmy Burke really did sell out DeSimone to the Gotti crew, would they have asked themselves if Jimmy had known or been involved with either of the two murders of Bentvena and Jerothe? He must have been really careful with his words.
The dude was a lunatic! His actions were not only a liability to Burke, but everyone in that crew. You gotta ask yourself, was his earning capability worth the ulcers and tensions with other organizations?
Some research points that is was Burke and Vario together who dimed DeSimmone out. Vario obviously was the intermediary with the Gambinos. Vario wanted him gone because allegedly he tried to rape Henry Hills wife (who Vario was having an affair with while Hill was in prison). Also, no way Vario didn’t know about the Billy Batts murder and between him and Burke DeSimmone was thrown to the wolves
I heard tommy killed foxy over his sister? I could be wrong but I definitely understand what your saying & you have to wonder
The thing that bothers me is how could Tommy be made if he had such a bad Reputation I also believe he met up with Jimmy at his house and that's where Jimmy killed him wouldn't be hard to have the body picked up and disposed of elsewhere from Jimmy's house Henry was in Florida when Tommy went missing
@@derekforbes5520 I agree no way they could of got Tommy without Jimmy. Seems they were really afraid of Tommy I mean who wouldn't be so they needed him to be with Jimmy at Jimmy house to be off guard
Hey bro keep up the good work really enjoyed your video 😁😁😁
Totally have to agree with you on this rather cogent breakdown of what happened with DeSimone Jeff. Jimmy Burke was putting himself in a more precarious position with Tommy, it certainly was smarter to unload him and move on than to go further down the road with that madman. Another banger dropped on a Saturday afternoon bro, great info!
thank u for introducing me to the word cogent thought it was a spelling mistake 🤣🤣🤣
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Yeah I'd have to agree..its good to have a shooter or two in the crew..guys willing to put in work when its needed..but an unhinged, trigger happy, psychopath, with an unpredictable temper, was much more of a liability for Burke, than a benefit.
Looking at that chainsaw brings back a memory about "Teresa Ferrera" She's definitely would be an interesting video if you have enough information about her she was a 27-year-old really hot looking hairdresser from Ozone Park..She was married to a guy named Steven and then she got divorced..She started hanging around Roberts Lounge,Suite Lounge a couple other places selling Quaaludes and cocaine..She dated Tommy DeSimone she got involved in some crazy..I know why & how it happened.. I cannot remember Henry Hill ever mentioning her in Goodfellas..I heard Jimmy Burke ordered her hit.. definitely a hottie for 1979...
@@melbourne-heat.69-71 yea they dismembered her. She must've really pissed someone off to whack her like that
" hey how many years ago was it you was made?"
" thirty years ago."
" thirty years huh?"
Thank you for the video. This subject always fascinated me
Ok Jeff, I was waiting on this ONE. Love the vids MAN. FOR REAL. Keep up the great vids brutha. Ok now, LET'S GO!!!
Appreciate it!!
Killing it as always Jeff !!
You put together a good show
Appreciate that
@@thesitdownwithjeffnadu They say here in my Hometown toledo Ohio it was steeped in mob history..wonder if you could dig something up?
New to the channel, but I love your videos !!
Thanks for watching
Loving the ace Ventura pet detective hairstyle on the presenter. 😂
Didn’t expect this, love it! Thanks for the episode!!!
Thanks for watching
Great 👍 to always see you Jeff , as always I appreciate all your work !!!!
Thanks for watching
It's said that Jimmy took over a lot of Billy bats rackets when Billy went to prison and that he was trying to take the rackets back from Jimmy and that's what they say that Billy was killed over. It's said that John Gotti was the one who killed Tommy over the murder of billy bats
Wow!! I am so happy I subscribed to your channel... Because your content go so deep,, it is always the most informative and you seem to always put out information that the public was not privy too,. well at least I wasn't anyway. I just want to say keep up the great work,, like I said I am so happy I catch as many episodes as possible actually myself and my girlfriend we both love the show. Peace my good man and please keep them coming.....
thanks for being here... welcome
Nothing like listening to another great "Sitdown" video, while doing my research/placing bets for the Sunday games. I ended up added Syracuse to my slate yesterday after I saw your blog. Crazy ending, but a win is a win.
Glad to help!
Great pod cast Jeff , this and the La Forte pod casts are as usual packed with info I’ve not heard before , keep em coming please 🙏
I just researched Tommy DeSimone's immediate and extended family. There were too many murders, committed here in NYS and California, for one family to withstand. You would think they would have gotten the memo quickly, and abandoned any aspirations of LCN ascendancy and stardom. Like I always say: That life sucks.
very cool channel
AWESOME VIDEO AND AWESOME TOPIC WITH GREAT INFORMATION
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Just started watching this and I know I’m going to love it!
enjoy
Great video keep up the good work! From England 🏴 it’s better when you don’t respond to the haters on your live mate. Long time listener here
Thanks for that
Great video….learned way more here than in the movie….
Only photo of this dude ! Looks like a school year book photo & hes the kid that looks 30 with a mustache 😳
Good video , fun fact Bruno facciolo brother was an associate with the Gambinos and his niece was in the TV show mob wives Carla facciolo and was married to a bonanno associate
nope he made in Lucchese under Vario
@@thesitdownwithjeffnadu correct and gaspipe had him killed and a canary placed in his mouth
Another good one, including pics! I lost count of how many times I've watched Goodfellas. Such a good movie and with Ray Liotta at this finest. 😍
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for still posting mob related content
More to come!
Awesome job .great story teller as always. Jhcleaning.
Thanks for listening
I always thought that Tommy was dating Fox's sister and he heard that Tommy was allegedly abusing her, so he went over to the apartment and had a conversation with Tommy and the end result was Fox was killed. Dont know for sure...can anyone help me out?
I heard the same thing. Heard Foxy punched him and knocked Tommy down. Tommy than shot him in head. Believe I read about in the book " The Sinatra Club ".
Yeah I think it was the ther way around. Tommy was meant to be quite the ladies man anyway
Foxy and Tommy used to be friends while Tommy was in prison foxy was sleeping with his wife Tommy got wind of it and dated his sister til she didn't wanna be with him no more due to his wild temper so he beat her up she went and told foxy and well the rest fill itself out
I also read that Tommy baited Foxy to his house to kill him because he said he going to kill him after he found out about his sister
@@Nixkrude79 He clearly couldn't handle rejection if that's the case and doesn't give him the right to put his hands on a woman
Heard Tommy DeSimone`s body was dumped at " The Hole" in howard beach in queens a familiar burial ground site for some mob guys maybe something you could look into jeff , Awesome video bro look forward to the next one .
I heard that somewhere about Spider's body...that it was dumped in sink hole in Howard Beach somewhere. But I also heard that there isn't much evidence to suggest that Spider ever really existed in real life either. I guess it depends on how believable you think Henry Hill is 🤷♂️
@@mattjack3983 I think spider was a real life character .
@@tonyc9572 i think he was too
Thomas Agro & Facciolo took Tommy to the Philadelphia scrap yard put him in a car crusher..Agro said Bye-bye Tommy from there he went to the Philadelphia steel mill where he was melted down with the rest of the cars..
Great video
thanks for watching
Gotti all excited there 😉 thought u did a John gotti upload 😥 🤣🤣🤣
The content awesome.
Apparently they never found Tommy’s body? Wonder if Roy and the Gemini crew took care of that for gotti or whoever took him out
Thanks Jeff!
No I thought u said , I was ok spidA!! 😂
Goodfellas is one of my favorite wise guy films and Tommy was my favorite character in the film thank you for this upload. 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
It all connects how Gotti could be responsible with DeSimone's death because it's historical fact Gotti had been the Capo of the Bergin Crew since 1975. So Gotti with the power within his own Family with his own crew and a very much alive Delacroce I can see them approaching Paul Vario and Jimmy basically selling him out to be the fall guy. You see no one fought or openly felt any kinda way when he was killed so it makes sense
Paul Vario gave up Tommy D to the Gambinos for the Billy Bats murder that he and Jimmy committed in Henry’s place in Queens . Just like in the movie they did have a verbal exchange and Billy Bats insulted Tommy D but that’s not the only reason he killed him.Jimmy Burke took over Billy Bats loansharking and gambling rackets when he went to the can , so when he got released Jimmy didn’t want to give them back so that’s why they killed Billy Bats . Jimmy Burke was a real good earner and he was a associate to the Lucchese but he also was a associate with the Gambinos and it was thru the Bergen hunting and fishing club but not John Gotti because he wasn’t even made yet , he was a associate of. Charlie Wagons who put Gotti in as a acting captain while Wagons served his prison sentence. No one knew what happened to Billy Bats after he went missing because no one witnessed the argument Tommy D and he had , the only other two people that were there were Jimmy and Henry so as far as the Gambinos are concerned he went missing . When Henry was in jail for that debt collection thing in Tampa that went bad for him and Jimmy his wife Karen started to have a affair with Paulie and Tommy wanted some of her to but she turned him down so he beat her up and tried to rape her , this got back to Paulie from Karen so Tommy was dead they just needed a reason other then Paulie was mad he tried to rape his side piece who happened to be Henry’s wife. Paulie knew about the Bats murder but stayed quiet about it because of Jimmies involvement , Jimmy just made too much money for Paulie so he just gave the Gambinos Tommy’s name and they did kill him but it wasn’t John Gotti who did it , some person who isn’t famous did it but I can’t remember his name but he also had killed Tommy’s older brother for being a rat and even made a comment that Tommy has one more brother who isn’t involved in crime so it’s a shame he won’t be able to kill all three of the Desimone brothers but I’ll settle for two .
@@mrbig4532 wow so put together it all makes sense. I still see Gotti having a hand in it I say a member of his crew did it. Cuz Tommy was killed in 78 right something like that by then Gotti was definitely Made and a Capo of the old Wagons crew. But with the addition of everything you explained put together it all makes sense. Thank you bro for the information
FYI, Tommy was dating Foxy’s sister and he assaulted her, not the other way around
incorrect
Can you look up and talk about the Grimaldi brothers , history and when they moved to Los Angeles
Another option on Desimone corpse.
It wouldn't surprise me if it was chopped up bye the Demeo crew.
They probably didn't fo the hit, but disposing of the body as a favor to John Gotti.
If you think about it, why would you drive a body 100 miles to Philly when you had local places to get rid of it. Seems like an un needed risk. Like Hoffa being in the conceete of the Trump Towers or other places hundreds of miles away from Detroit when there was plenty of 'local' places.
Everyones looking for their 15 mins. Of fame.
Love this video about tommy great video
He was killed by a guy named Bobby 3 Guns
From what I’ve read a guy called tommy agro whacked DeSimone. He was a solider in the gambino family down in Florida (ran the books down there.) and he was close to castalleno
Jeff is right about their being no picture of billy batts. There is a pic of "batts" out there but is really pat "the cat" spiritio. A gangster out of philly i thought it was batts for a while till i found that out. Great research nadu thanks for getting me out from under my rock 👍💯 Oh also i think since it was gambino crew members involved with his death I theorize that after agro and gotti were done with him maybe they had demeo and his crew help get rid of his body, just a theory though.
Great content. I’ve watched a few of your UA-cam videos and you’re very thorough. I have a small request, I noticed you are using the word auspice which is grammatically incorrect the way your using it. It should be auspices. As in Tommy worked in a crew under the auspices of Paulie.
Good vid, not sure if tommys birthrate was accurate. Saw an arrest article in late 60s that said he was 23. Also heard it was foxys sister that tommy was dating, but who knows.
Besides being a psychopath, I heard Desimone was a really funny guy. Bing Pow 💥
I love seeing the different pictures of the personalities involved. Some of these guy's can really throw daggers at the camera!
He says Richard "The Pfffft-HA Iceman" Kuklinski was also involved in disposing Desimone's body at the scrap yard. Which makes me discredit this whole account. Of all the made up killings Kuklinski was supposed to have committed, then bragged about, I don't recall him ever talking about this.
Michael Franzese, Sonny’s kid said flat out he never heard of kuklinski from any mob associates! And I believe him! He’s gone straight, never snitched and was a bid earner in the gas business for the mob! He has no reason to lie bout kuklinski!
Read Franzeses 302s and see if he never ratted they are on youtube i like him but he got to stop saying he didnt cooperate when he did.
Tommy agro killed Tommy d and his brother! Tommy agro died in 1987 in prison
"Well, we had a little problem . . . . . ."
Love this story abt 2 guns tommy , felt sorry for him as jimmy was equally to blame for billy batts Death , just jimmy was more respected by Vario , to me Vario gave up Tommy to Gotti
I definitely believe that because in the book it say Paulie never tommy anyway
I may be wrong but two guys who were close to Gotti were killed by Two gun Tommy DeSimone and DeSimone wasn't a made man and if Gotti killed him he waited until Tommy was in a sense hog tied and secured, I'm guessing Johnny boy was a bit fearful of Two gun Tommy .
Your guess is wrong
did you watch the show? U are wrong
Lots of people were scared of two guns
I think vario played more of a role in tommys demise than burke, if burke even had any. Vario letting gotti kill him makes sense but I think it was varios crew who did it in the end since it'd be alot cleaner having 1 crew involved instead of 2 especially with all of the heat going on with lufthansa
Because he tried to rape Henry hills wife and Paulie was sleeping with Karen so it would make sense if he did because he never really liked Tommy to begin with
The movie focuses on Henry hill a lot because it’s his story lol
In the movie the Sinatra club Tommy was messing with dude foxy sister and was beating on her and when foxy came to confront Tommy, Tommy shot him in the head
Polisi is a complete liar
Oh OK thanks for clearing that up for me, love ur videos can u do one on I think his name is lupe the wolf
History channel show deal ASAP 👍👍
Jeff, wasn't Spider actually working off a gambling or loan debt owed to Jimmy Burke by working as a bartender at Robert's lounge (i.e., Jimmy's poker games)? Just something I heard. Great video!!!
thanks for watching
I heard that the police couldn't even find proof that spider was even real
@@tonyhill6541 Yeah, he was real. When Henry Hill was on the Howard Stern, Spider's sister called the show and called Henry everything but a White man.
2 points. So DeNiro overacted when informed of Tommy's death? Pesci took the name Tommy DeVito --name of a friend in the Four Seasons.
💯 🔥 fire 🔥
Facciola was killed by Casso as the maniac did with so many accused him of being a rat but I think diarco also mentions a inside that where facciola or his brother killed some black guy in the Canarsie markets you have any info on that and diarco also mentions that he would go to a real old timers house in Canarsie while he was acting boss
Henry Hill claimed Gotti was trigger man . He said it on Howard Stern show out his own mouth. Was he lying, who knows but what's to gain at that time.
henry hill is a compulsive liar
I believe Jimmy set that killing up and told he shot the made man and Tommy was gone. Tommy used to shine shoes as a boy and the joke was, he told Tommy to shine his shoes, that's no joke to me
Loved this didn't thinki would as I'm not interested in him don't ask me why I just don't feel like watching stuff on hi but this was awesome great jeffthanks bro
Pretty sure you got wrong man who took his mask of in lufhansa heist it was one of the guys guarding the hostages in the cafeteria ....that is from Henry hill but also I read it someplace but I'm sure it wasn't tommy
Tommy took his mask off
Tommy and Angelo Sepe both took their masks off plus the truck they found had Tommy Footprints
This will be good
Cambridge is a suburb of Boston...?
they Next...to each other .. probably Easy Cambridge....
Anyways thanks
My two favorite scenes of Joe Peci in Goodfellas is 1) When he cracks the owner of the lounge with a bottle and right before say.. " you know your a real fucking mut!🤣"
and 2) at his mothers house , I like this painting, one dogs looking one way, the other dogs looking the other way, and this guy's saying, whad'ya want from me!"😅😅
love it!
I liked "What can I say I'm a good shot" after shooting the kid in the bar 🤣
I was laughing when after he kills Maury in the car: "GET THE F..K OTTA HERE, WARM UP THE CAR!!! GET OTTA HERE!"🤣🤣🤣
Also, after he kills Stacks: "Make that coffee to go!"
Pesci was awesome in Goodfellas!
How about when he’s at his moms house and says. "Mom! I Settle Down With A Nice Girl Every Night, Then I'm Free The Next Morning."
Wouldn't there be a mugshot if he was arrest? (Bentvena)
none that ive seen
Jimmy Burke’s eyes scare me
Agro did indeed kill Desemone. John Ghotti was not there at all. When the hit was ok-ed at a sit down, Paul Vario said 'we take our own trash out". Meaning he okays the hit but they'll take care of it.
Tommy DeSimone was a loose cannon.
But he went extra hard
who do u think does know , who and where Tommy was killed
I believe Gotti definitely was not only in on him being killed but that he at the very least was involved in torturing tommy. Rules aside he had killed 2 close friends of Gotti. Gotti by this time was acting boss i believe and wasn't even an made member. So he obviously had tons of respect from everyone in the family including other families. No way Gotti didn't take this personally. I think gotti killed him.
I’ve always read much like his first victim there is no evidence of “spider” the Michael imperioli character in real life.
Credit to you for taking Henry hill with a pinch of salt and saying as much.
There was such a person, He served sandwiches at card and dice games. See Anthony Ruggeriio Jr. regarding Tommy Desimone
"Hit that SUBSCRIBE button below now..." What's up, Jeff? That button you're pointing to is not below your right hand. Please point to it with your left hand and I'm sure you'll get even more subscribers. Great show!
Henry Hill did confirm that it was john gotti who pulled the trigger on tommy
Yeah it's hard to believe criminals. "The Irishman" was all lies, even the FBI told the director the crimes he was admitting too were false. A good movie, but embellished as hell.
sorry that bites.. Their guidelines are so unclear and corrupt .we appreciate your professional journalism
yep continue to get shadow banned by these clowns
@@thesitdownwithjeffnadu They are fools
Wasn't Tommy's real last name Devito
no that was his fake name
Desimone deserved what he got
John Gotti’s crew killed Tommy they tortured him then they killed put his body in acid bath. Because Tommy killed foxy one of gotti’s boys that was like a son to John gotti
He got a job in a Casino in Vagas 🎉
All my tools are Dewalt,good stuff
thanks for watching
I don't know if u know this but he used torcher vanimals as a teen especially cats he was always blood lustful
Anthony Ruggiano Fat Andy’s son said today it was Pete the Killer that pulled the trigger
How is there not even a booking photo/mug shot of Billy? Or a family member at least after all of this time sharing one. This guy's like an E.T. Nobody can get a pic of him.
As far as Tommy goes I think Gotti had him put in "The Hole." Seems to me he's the type that would enjoy knowing exactly where he resided. So he could say "Hi." Every now and then. Especially considering it was such a personal hit.
Besides, why risk driving a body all the way out to Philly? There's a million scrapyards and bodies of water right where they were.
feds dont do that
@@thesitdownwithjeffnadu I'm confused then. Who leaks all of these mugshots then? Inquiring minds want to know! Lol
Yo Jeff didn't desimone brother rat at 1 point? And who n wat did he rat on ND about?
I heard that too
i discussed it.. agro wacked him
@@thesitdownwithjeffnadu thanks bro
@@thesitdownwithjeffnadu yea I knew that but why did they whack him was the? He rated? ND on who?
Still DeSimonnes in the lucchese family today
They're are???
@@damonstewart70 yeah, Andrew DeSimone being one, and I believe there is more...
Growing up I always thought Joe Pesci was supposed to be Sammy The Bull in Goodfellas lol
Guys whole family's rats. You're digging the hole Tommy ok np what's this the first hole I ever dug? Loll another good 1 jeffrey