Shimano SLX 12x1 with the XT shifter, it climbs mountain trails all day long and to stop I use Shimano SLX 4 piston brakes which clamp down hard onto the Shimano 203mm RT-MT800 rotors, which comfortably bring a 250lb ogre to a stop regardless of how steep the trail ....Yeah I'm a fanboy and wont be changing anytime soon
I had to rewind your statement about Shimano not having technical issues, because I could not believe what I heard! Has the crank issue on Ultegra and Dura Ace been forgotten so quickly? What about shops losing shimano support for speaking publicly about it? Did you also get a gag order?
@@ukrytykrytyk8477 hey thanks for watching and the comments. All of our content is from personal experience both as a bike mechanic for over 16 years and a life long cyclist. We have very little issues with Shimano products, we did not get involved in the crank inspections and we just love their brands. The joy of being an independent business is no one holds a gun to our head. Nor would we go around bad mouthing a company that supports both us and our customers.
Everyone goes on about the SRAM transmission stuff. I've never tried it, but it would have to be unbelievably good to make me want to give up my Shimano group set and charge batteries all the time.
@@peterknight7880 thanks for watching. There have been a few times in the past 20 years where SRAM products have had a real push but these periods have been short lived and whilst it’s great that everyone at the higher end is hyped about their products, Shimano offer a better consistent range and have done for decades
Shimano mechanical 3x8 and 2x9 is/was peak technology, longevity, durabilty, and price. 1x11 on full on mtb's... Everything since is marketing BS. Electronics on bicycles - i won't even go there.
@@michaelhayward7572 definitely understand your point of view and whilst the market does move fast with its technology Shimano Di2 groupsets are wonderful.
Shimano parts are good, I agree too. But unfortunately they come without any manual/ instruction other than a fancy CR code and a vague website. At least I don't understand nothing of it. They do that to "save paper", says a big paper in all languages. So I put all their parts on intuïtion or with the info I have to look for on UA-cam, in videos of random hobbyists. But the quality of the parts themselves is good.
@@kayasper6081 try looking at Si. Shimano.com and you’ll find all the manuals you need. If you struggle with the search just type the part number into google and one of the first five links will have a PDF of the instructions 👍
These derailleurs shouldn't be operated without spinning the cranks when the chain is installed (obviously) - this is how you damage them in the long run. I'd be pissed if that was my bike.
Thank you for your comment and sorry you seem to keep finding flaws in what we do. Moving these derailleur a small amount whilst the chain is static does not cause any damage at all and part of the set up of these derailleurs is to move them whilst static. If you don’t like what we do then don’t watch our videos. Happy cycling!
@@veloworks9266 yes you can move them whilst static... without the chain - i.e. without counter force. With chain in situ the force applied is strong enough (especially the front derailleur) to cause micro cracking if the shifting isn't executed fully. Yes, it won't break straight away, i.e. it won't be your problem, but this being a weak point and them failing because of this is a fairly known fact. And please don't gaslight me, thank you.
Unless you have 11 speed mechanical. Good luck getting those parts. Broke my dura ace shifter, none available, and as of now, Shimano not making anymore. Dog the others all you want, Shimano sucks as well!
You are right and it is frustrating but unfortunately this is an industry wide problem. Hopefully it might change in the future (like if they stick with CUES).
I have this groupset on my Supersix EVO brilliant :) nice review dud.. Pete
Thank you and cheers for watching 👍
Shimano SLX 12x1 with the XT shifter, it climbs mountain trails all day long and to stop I use Shimano SLX 4 piston brakes which clamp down hard onto the Shimano 203mm RT-MT800 rotors, which comfortably bring a 250lb ogre to a stop regardless of how steep the trail ....Yeah I'm a fanboy and wont be changing anytime soon
@@dannyk3718 sounds great 😀👍
they just work
@@lindonandlisa8114 yep!
I had to rewind your statement about Shimano not having technical issues, because I could not believe what I heard! Has the crank issue on Ultegra and Dura Ace been forgotten so quickly? What about shops losing shimano support for speaking publicly about it? Did you also get a gag order?
Yeah this whole video feels like shimano has a gun offscreen
@@ukrytykrytyk8477 hey thanks for watching and the comments. All of our content is from personal experience both as a bike mechanic for over 16 years and a life long cyclist. We have very little issues with Shimano products, we did not get involved in the crank inspections and we just love their brands. The joy of being an independent business is no one holds a gun to our head. Nor would we go around bad mouthing a company that supports both us and our customers.
@@TheSpaceBrosShow see our reply to presvious comment
Everyone goes on about the SRAM transmission stuff. I've never tried it, but it would have to be unbelievably good to make me want to give up my Shimano group set and charge batteries all the time.
@@peterknight7880 thanks for watching. There have been a few times in the past 20 years where SRAM products have had a real push but these periods have been short lived and whilst it’s great that everyone at the higher end is hyped about their products, Shimano offer a better consistent range and have done for decades
I wouldn’t fit anything else, GRX 1x11 is sublime.
@@Enigmavelo totally agree!
Shimano mechanical 3x8 and 2x9 is/was peak technology, longevity, durabilty, and price.
1x11 on full on mtb's...
Everything since is marketing BS.
Electronics on bicycles - i won't even go there.
@@michaelhayward7572 definitely understand your point of view and whilst the market does move fast with its technology Shimano Di2 groupsets are wonderful.
Shimano parts are good, I agree too. But unfortunately they come without any manual/ instruction other than a fancy CR code and a vague website. At least I don't understand nothing of it.
They do that to "save paper", says a big paper in all languages. So I put all their parts on intuïtion or with the info I have to look for on UA-cam, in videos of random hobbyists.
But the quality of the parts themselves is good.
@@kayasper6081 try looking at Si. Shimano.com and you’ll find all the manuals you need. If you struggle with the search just type the part number into google and one of the first five links will have a PDF of the instructions 👍
Agree - Shimano cover all bases from entry level to pro level. Sram? No, not at all. Campagnolo? No.......definitely not.
@@Andy_ATB agree!
These derailleurs shouldn't be operated without spinning the cranks when the chain is installed (obviously) - this is how you damage them in the long run. I'd be pissed if that was my bike.
Thank you for your comment and sorry you seem to keep finding flaws in what we do. Moving these derailleur a small amount whilst the chain is static does not cause any damage at all and part of the set up of these derailleurs is to move them whilst static. If you don’t like what we do then don’t watch our videos. Happy cycling!
@@veloworks9266 yes you can move them whilst static... without the chain - i.e. without counter force. With chain in situ the force applied is strong enough (especially the front derailleur) to cause micro cracking if the shifting isn't executed fully. Yes, it won't break straight away, i.e. it won't be your problem, but this being a weak point and them failing because of this is a fairly known fact.
And please don't gaslight me, thank you.
Unless you have 11 speed mechanical. Good luck getting those parts. Broke my dura ace shifter, none available, and as of now, Shimano not making anymore. Dog the others all you want, Shimano sucks as well!
You are right and it is frustrating but unfortunately this is an industry wide problem. Hopefully it might change in the future (like if they stick with CUES).