Not going to argue "better" because that's subjective, but this sounds.... as demonstrated.... exactly like the original soundtrack, so if there really are mistakes, I can't hear them, or the LSO and recording Engineers made them too! Blakus is also extremely talented.
I just wrote it to check this guy…..when I sent him a nice comment and asked him to check a mock-up I did…..no reply….when he gets a negative comment he immediately jumps up and responds…..shows his true class 😂😂
Dudeeeee!!!!!!! This mockup is so good!!! You got so many aspects of what makes this theme great down to a tee. I love that you modeled it after Revenge of the Sith's rendition (my favorite) with the high energy and just overall TIGHT sound of the LSO. I especially love the sounds of the trombones here. So many versions of the theme, whether it be official or mockup, always have softer trombones (specifically during the opening triplets part) and I'm so glad you kept the energy present in ROTS's version. TL;DR, Great work!!!!
Can you tell more about the positioning process? How do you place in the space a standard mid dry/wet, prepanned library? What's your panning settings on the DAW track and on Panagement? Do you override some prepannings, if so how? Do you narrow the stereo spread of some instruments, at one point? By the way, I would pay to have a mixing course from you ;-)
I got to know your channel this week by analyzing the videos questioning the quality of Hz libraries and others. I'm entering this niche now and I don't have much knowledge. I'm studying a lot and your videos have opened my eyes and ears. My support and subscribe. Thank you very much, cheers from Brazil!
Absolutely incredible! The same WOW I experienced when first heard your force awakens trailer rescore. I am a little curious, maybe I just can't really hear it, but is the first and second time any different? Obviously it says softer trumpets, and my brain's telling me that's the case, but I'm not sure if that's my brain being biased or that it's actually the case.
That's totally unbelievable how those midi sound stellar ! I am totally amazed. Dude, Lucasfilm must know your existence, even if you are being dormant on the farthest fringe of the Outer Rim. I hope you'll score some Star Wars movie in the future !
Extremely well done, I would not at all have been able to distinguish this from the real recording. I find this quite inspiring actually, because it serves as a reminder that I have the tools to create something like this sitting on my computer, now all I need is an actual good ear, a dose of talent and heaps of hard work lol. Instead of asking about the libraries and FX, let me ask something else: how long did this take you to make? I'm asking because I'm wondering how deep you got into processing individual sounds: did you do processing on single notes, or does the rabbit hole not go quite that deep?
Thanks ! I'm glad you found some inspiration here. Every single note is programmed (and sometimes treated separately), nothing is left to chance. Every single note should be treated with love and respect. A careful attention to detail is essential. This is clearly not a task for the lazy or the impatient. The main part of the programming didn't take very long (something like 15 hours) The longest and most difficult task has been to get closer to the original recording which is nothing else than the best of Shawn Murphy / Abbey Road / LSO ... the holy grail ! I spent a lot of time tweaking, reprogramming some details and focusing on the mix. I learned new techniques in the process. It was both painful and exciting. There is something special about this Main Title, it has always been seen as something impossible to handle with VSTs since I started working with samples. My first attempt was in 2009, my second one in 2012, but I programmed them with considerable restrictions (VLS only for the first one and Sample Modeling only for the second one). For this last attempt - without any restriction this time - I decided not to rush it and push my template to its limits !
There is a lot going on here ...with some magic sauce ;) The process is to merge several libraries together : choosing the appropriate mic, equing, panning etc in order to create a cohesive sound.
@@UnofficialButTrue Thank you! Well, in that case, which string and brass libraries, and which reverb(s) did you use for this? And by “softer trumpets,” do you mean you used the a lower velocity layer and brought up the volume fader for a rounder sound?
@@MusicalPlayground717 There are several layers of trumpets, I removed the aggressive one. I used Altiverb (Todd-AO Scoring Stage) Concerning the libraries in action, it would certainly be easier to list the ones not involved here. I can often use a library only for a short sequence and even for a single note. Mainly : Spitfire Symphonic Brass, 8dio Brass, Berlin Brass, Hollywood Brass, Cinebrass, Cinematic Studio Brass, Metropolis Ark, Vienna Symphonic Brass (first edition) With some programming and mixing skills you can get good results with any of these libraries, Which ones you choose and how you combine them is a matter of taste.
@@UnofficialButTrue Many thanks! As there are several layers of trumpets, is the objective to mimic the realism of a traditional symphony orchestra? For example, layering solo trumpets from different libraries to create one full traditional section? Or does it mean you're layering full trumpet sections, so you end up with a more-players-than-normal end result that happens to sound better? Does the same hold true for the strings? Thanks again. :)
@@MusicalPlayground717 You're welcome. "more players than normal" can work with samples, but it can also sound wrong. There is no absolute rule. Layering solo trumpets is quite efficient. You can also get good results by layering an ensemble with one or two solo. You have to experiment and to train your ears by listening to real performances, that's the ultimate key.
Still blown away by this. Do you usually use multi-outputs on your libraries, so that you can EQ each mic position on its own in your DAW? I'm trying to rebuild my Template with each microphone having its own output, but it's such a giant hassle (especially because Cubase is such a buggy mess) that I'm wondering if it's even worth it.
Oh man. I've spent inordinate amounts of time creating mockups of various orchestral pieces over the last couple years -- but this one just makes me feel fat and lazy by comparison! I'm especially impressed by how singular it sounds, considering the number of libraries you've used (which I always imagined would be quite a headache!) -- and by how seamlessly it blends with the original recording. I see in a previous comment that you used Altiverb. Did you go for a dryer sound on the mic mixes with the libraries you used in order to get them all to blend so well, or did you use some room sound in addition to Altiverb?
Sorry if it makes you feel lazy lol Yes I use also room mics. Altiverb helps blend things together but the "main room" is created with a combination of different rooms from different libraries.
This is the most splendid mockup I’ve ever heard! I’m grinning like an idiot over here. For the SampleModeling brass, do you use an Early Reflections % other than the default setting?
Thanks ! Mainly : Berlin Woodwinds, Embertone Clarinet and Basson. Concerning the Strings...a lot ! Performance Samples Con Moto + a layer of Vista, Soaring Strings, 8dio...I don't remember exactly. Maybe you will find more details in the comments.
This is without a doubt the best mockup I've ever heard! Would you be able to compose a song for our animated sci-fi film? I have a very specific example track so you won't have to use as much of your time.
how did you match the tone of the trumpet from the LSO so good? i mean the brassy tone is just complete wiped away, it sounds very dynamic but it sits perfectly between loud and dynamic but not to weak... I cant imagine what VST you used, i bet you also used costum samples? i would really liike to know because my trumpet sounds very brassy and i dont like it that much. I have Cinebrass, cinematic studio brass, AROOF, BBCSO, SSB and Sample modelings brass. Can i archieve the same trumpet sound (or nearly) ??
I don't use and I don't have custom libraries. This is a combination of brass libraries (Cinematic Studio Brass for sure but I don't remember exactly, maybe I already answered this question in the comments). Eq is the best tool to fight against the brassy tone (once you have choose the right libraries, and mics positions). But I prefer boosting a softer sound rather than taming a brassy one.
C'est complètement dingo, bravo et merci pour cet incroyable boulot. Puis-je te demander comment tu gères altiverb? Une instance différente par pupitre? Tu utilises le speaker positioner du coup? Tu utilises aussi panagement dans tout ça? Encore merci
I'm using Panagement 1 : www.auburnsounds.com/blog/2019-08-14_Introducing-Panagement-2.html - I must try Panagement 2. I'm doing a lot of processing everywhere !
I haven't bought it yet but Spitfire Abbey Road low/high percs sounds very good. Most of the drums/percs in this Main Title are from Spitfire Abbey Road One. I also used drums from 8dio Majestica which are very good and very cheap right now : 80$ One of the most important thing is the room and these libraries have been recorded in great rooms (Abbey Road is of course the best one).
@@UnofficialButTrue that sounds good! im getting more and more problems with CSB, it sounds more and more metallic, cold, and hard. im trying to get a warmer sound with it but i dont really know what to use. Saturation, eq, i tried but it just doesnt sound right. for the main lead i use a solo trumpet and 2 trumpet patch. but the bones are sounding really bad. 8dio had a sale some days ago, the century brass for 50$, i wanted to buy it but i had no money on me sadly. im really waiting for an abbey road one sale, i really hope i can get it then because bbcso lacks really hard at brass. are abbey road percs better than the one in BBCSO?
How did you make the midi? Like where did you get the information of the notes? Did you looked at original sheets for the instruments and wrote it in the piano roll or how did you do that... Im struggling because my brass library (Nucleus) sounds shit... the sound is good but its just not realistic. I dont really know where to start, how to write the midis, and especially let it sound realistic with the articulations, do you have any advise, which libraries for each intrument are the best(for strings brass woodwinds and stuff)?
I mainly used the midi file that you can find on Google (Star Wars Main Title midi file). Jaeger is good at making the modern noisy retarded sound (trailer Music, Zimmer, etc.). When it comes to serious stuff like Star Wars, you need to use more detailed libraries because it requires a lot of different articulations and instruments. I recommand Orchestral tools Berlin Brass, Spitfire Orchestral Brass and Cinematic Studio Brass. But don't expect miracles: keep in mind that even with detailed libraries, you'll need a lot of work and experience to make them sound good.
@@UnofficialButTrue hm okay... That sounds good! Do you got any tipps how i can make brass more realistic? because the sustained notes from nucleus are sounding to straight and not life like...
I don't have Spitfire BBC. Tell me which libraries you own so that I can make a relevant recommendation, because there are good stuff in almost all libraries.
A list of VST he definitly used: (Libraries with ? are not sure if he used them or not) Soaring Strings Cinematic Studio Strings Cinematic Studio Brass Hollywoodwinds (?) Abbey Road Orchestral Foundations Berlin Brass Con Moto Violins LA Scoring Strings 8DIO Majestica perc Spitfire Symphonic Brass Berlin Woodwinds Metropolis Ark 1 Fabfilters Panagement Altiverb (todd ao) Tape Saturation Thats what he told me + what i can hear with my non professional ears :) Please Samy, if you want you can add/delete one or two things if im wrong, but dont delete this, this is so good that people must know that its possible to archieve a sound like this without some mysterious custom libraries :) Wish you all the best guys!
I didn't use : Cinematic Studio Woodwinds Fabfilter MB Spitfire Harp Joby Burgess perc (?) but I used : Con Moto Violins, Hollywood Strings, LA Scoring Strings, Berlin Woodwinds, Metropolis Ark 1 You have to keep in mind that sometimes I use a library for a very short sequence only. For example, I think I used Cinematic Studio Strings for a cello layer. You don't need custom libraries but you need to be able to endure pain.
@@UnofficialButTrue this is really helpful, another question, do you have a website or anything where i can read something about you? You seem to be really level headed and intelligent, and for Sure very skilled.. your force awakens Trailer music IS better then blakus version IMO. Yours sounds different but still Like Star Wars, its interesting not boring like the other 08/15 trailer music!
C'est incroyable ! Et en plus tu serais français, d'après ce que je lis dans les commentaires ? Mais je vais continuer en anglais, que d'autres puissent en profiter. I'd also be glad to have more insights on the use of panning, stereo wideness tweaking, and reverb! Do you use 2 reverb buses (one convo "room" and one algo "hall") + some insert additional verbs for especially dry libraries? Or a totally other process? First time I hear about panagement, I'll definitively have a look!
@@UnofficialButTrue Donc juste jouer sur le mix des mics positions, + un bus d'Altiverb sur l'ensemble (toujours Todd-AO, ou c'est que pour les Sample Modeling ?) Et Panagement, c'est juste pour le positionnement, sans utiliser la reverb incluse ?
@@UnofficialButTrue Je trouve la reverb de Panagement 2 vraiment cool. Elle interagit avec le positionnement : le stereo spread de la réverb se réduit avec la distance. Je trouve l'effet très réaliste pour une source lointaine.
Your an absolute gem in a time of steroid induced non-melody repetitive cell nonsense! Thank you for sharing your talent with us! Do you score professionally?
@@UnofficialButTrue is it Well paid? Because im 18 and need a Job, i dont know where to start and this is my dreamjob. But i need to visit some masterclasses, im waiting for yours,:)
@@talnomix3164 There is no fixed rate in this business. It all depends on the client, the budget and the composer. The best thing to do to be a composer is to learn music even if today it is no longer necessary because any idiot with a computer and three plugins can call themselves a composer.
tbh this would be a lot more impressive if I hadn't already heard the Blakus mockup lol. But this is very good too! especially on the strings well done!
Sounds awesome for a midi mockup... but, with respect, I find it hard to believe that it's completely in the box. Sounds so close. I completely respect you want to remain anonymous but maybe showing midi tracks content, isolated examples of a section will eventually change my mind. Anyway, thanks for sharing man.
I'm not anonymous, I even shared my personal email in the comment section. I'm a professional composer, mixer and midi programmer I've been programming for over 15 years so what you hear is the fruit of my experience. There is no cheating here just a lot of work.
@@UnofficialButTrue An easy way to prove the authenticity would be to post downloadable separate audio stems with all effects baked in (in the way we only have to mix them together to get the final result).
Lots of mistakes….nowhere close to Blakus….
Not going to argue "better" because that's subjective, but this sounds.... as demonstrated.... exactly like the original soundtrack, so if there really are mistakes, I can't hear them, or the LSO and recording Engineers made them too! Blakus is also extremely talented.
Then tell me where you hear the mistakes? This is perfection, but i must say that i would like to hear a wider stereo image
pin of shame
I just wrote it to check this guy…..when I sent him a nice comment and asked him to check a mock-up I did…..no reply….when he gets a negative comment he immediately jumps up and responds…..shows his true class 😂😂
This is incredible! Sounds so realistic!
That's better than Hanz Zimmer
lol
Wow, nothing out-of-place, one of THE best Star Wars Main Title Mockups I've heard here on UA-cam yet, & there are actually quite a few!🎵
Breathtaking work. Can't wait to listen more from your work
One of the best mockups i've ever heard! Nice job!!
Dudeeeee!!!!!!! This mockup is so good!!! You got so many aspects of what makes this theme great down to a tee. I love that you modeled it after Revenge of the Sith's rendition (my favorite) with the high energy and just overall TIGHT sound of the LSO. I especially love the sounds of the trombones here. So many versions of the theme, whether it be official or mockup, always have softer trombones (specifically during the opening triplets part) and I'm so glad you kept the energy present in ROTS's version.
TL;DR, Great work!!!!
Thanks Duuuuude !!
This is more than awesome !
Dude, I seriously thought this was the London Symphony Orchestra at first! This sounds incredible! Well done!
This sounds better than some real recordings. Wow.
Magnifique! Super boulot.
Oh my god. This is perfect!
Impressive. Most impressive!
Can you tell more about the positioning process? How do you place in the space a standard mid dry/wet, prepanned library? What's your panning settings on the DAW track and on Panagement? Do you override some prepannings, if so how? Do you narrow the stereo spread of some instruments, at one point?
By the way, I would pay to have a mixing course from you ;-)
I got to know your channel this week by analyzing the videos questioning the quality of Hz libraries and others. I'm entering this niche now and I don't have much knowledge. I'm studying a lot and your videos have opened my eyes and ears. My support and subscribe. Thank you very much, cheers from Brazil!
You're welcome !
It would be amazing if a full version of this was created.
Impressive!
This sounds so much like the real thing I'm surprised UA-cam didn't identify it as copyrighted material. :O Amazing!
it did sadly
Awesome!
I hope one day you will do the binary sunset,that main theme sounded like an original track from John Williams. I am proud of you!
Absolutely incredible! The same WOW I experienced when first heard your force awakens trailer rescore. I am a little curious, maybe I just can't really hear it, but is the first and second time any different? Obviously it says softer trumpets, and my brain's telling me that's the case, but I'm not sure if that's my brain being biased or that it's actually the case.
Thanks ! Your brain is right : softer trumpets only on the main theme : " paaaaaa paaaaaaa pa pa pa paaaaaa paaaaaa !!!"
That's totally unbelievable how those midi sound stellar ! I am totally amazed. Dude, Lucasfilm must know your existence, even if you are being dormant on the farthest fringe of the Outer Rim. I hope you'll score some Star Wars movie in the future !
Jesus christ man, that's INSANE
Impressive
Extremely well done, I would not at all have been able to distinguish this from the real recording. I find this quite inspiring actually, because it serves as a reminder that I have the tools to create something like this sitting on my computer, now all I need is an actual good ear, a dose of talent and heaps of hard work lol. Instead of asking about the libraries and FX, let me ask something else: how long did this take you to make? I'm asking because I'm wondering how deep you got into processing individual sounds: did you do processing on single notes, or does the rabbit hole not go quite that deep?
Thanks ! I'm glad you found some inspiration here.
Every single note is programmed (and sometimes treated separately), nothing is left to chance.
Every single note should be treated with love and respect. A careful attention to detail is essential. This is clearly not a task for the lazy or the impatient.
The main part of the programming didn't take very long (something like 15 hours)
The longest and most difficult task has been to get closer to the original recording which is nothing else than the best of Shawn Murphy / Abbey Road / LSO ... the holy grail !
I spent a lot of time tweaking, reprogramming some details and focusing on the mix. I learned new techniques in the process.
It was both painful and exciting. There is something special about this Main Title, it has always been seen as something impossible to handle with VSTs since I started working with samples. My first attempt was in 2009, my second one in 2012, but I programmed them with considerable restrictions (VLS only for the first one and Sample Modeling only for the second one).
For this last attempt - without any restriction this time - I decided not to rush it and push my template to its limits !
@@UnofficialButTrue thank you for the extensive answer, much appreciated!
@@UnofficialButTrue Midi is the Death Star. It needs to be destroyed.
I fell from my chair !
Ooh! Would love to hear about the string legato section process
There is a lot going on here ...with some magic sauce ;) The process is to merge several libraries together : choosing the appropriate mic, equing, panning etc in order to create a cohesive sound.
@@UnofficialButTrue "magic sauce", how gross !
Good God. Is it too much to hope for that you’ll do a run-down of the libraries and techniques you’re using? I’d watch the hell out of that.
Yes I think it's too much to hope...lol, but if you have a more specific question, don't hesitate.
@@UnofficialButTrue Thank you! Well, in that case, which string and brass libraries, and which reverb(s) did you use for this? And by “softer trumpets,” do you mean you used the a lower velocity layer and brought up the volume fader for a rounder sound?
@@MusicalPlayground717 There are several layers of trumpets, I removed the aggressive one.
I used Altiverb (Todd-AO Scoring Stage)
Concerning the libraries in action, it would certainly be easier to list the ones not involved here. I can often use a library only for a short sequence and even for a single note.
Mainly : Spitfire Symphonic Brass, 8dio Brass, Berlin Brass, Hollywood Brass, Cinebrass,
Cinematic Studio Brass, Metropolis Ark, Vienna Symphonic Brass (first edition)
With some programming and mixing skills you can get good results with any of these libraries, Which ones you choose and how you combine them is a matter of taste.
@@UnofficialButTrue Many thanks! As there are several layers of trumpets, is the objective to mimic the realism of a traditional symphony orchestra? For example, layering solo trumpets from different libraries to create one full traditional section? Or does it mean you're layering full trumpet sections, so you end up with a more-players-than-normal end result that happens to sound better? Does the same hold true for the strings?
Thanks again. :)
@@MusicalPlayground717 You're welcome.
"more players than normal" can work with samples, but it can also sound wrong. There is no absolute rule. Layering solo trumpets is quite efficient. You can also get good results by layering an ensemble with one or two solo. You have to experiment and to train your ears by listening to real performances, that's the ultimate key.
It would be so nice if you could write down all the plugins you used. ❤:)
Still blown away by this. Do you usually use multi-outputs on your libraries, so that you can EQ each mic position on its own in your DAW? I'm trying to rebuild my Template with each microphone having its own output, but it's such a giant hassle (especially because Cubase is such a buggy mess) that I'm wondering if it's even worth it.
OTR for Reaper 🙂
Oh man. I've spent inordinate amounts of time creating mockups of various orchestral pieces over the last couple years -- but this one just makes me feel fat and lazy by comparison! I'm especially impressed by how singular it sounds, considering the number of libraries you've used (which I always imagined would be quite a headache!) -- and by how seamlessly it blends with the original recording. I see in a previous comment that you used Altiverb. Did you go for a dryer sound on the mic mixes with the libraries you used in order to get them all to blend so well, or did you use some room sound in addition to Altiverb?
Sorry if it makes you feel lazy lol
Yes I use also room mics. Altiverb helps blend things together but the "main room" is created with a combination of different rooms from different libraries.
This is the most splendid mockup I’ve ever heard! I’m grinning like an idiot over here. For the SampleModeling brass, do you use an Early Reflections % other than the default setting?
Thanks !
I almost never use Sample Modeling any more.
I used the Altiverb early reflection (Todd Ao)
holy shit that's amazing. what strings and woodwinds libraries are you using? the runs sound phenomenal!
Thanks ! Mainly : Berlin Woodwinds, Embertone Clarinet and Basson. Concerning the Strings...a lot ! Performance Samples Con Moto + a layer of Vista, Soaring Strings, 8dio...I don't remember exactly. Maybe you will find more details in the comments.
Hello, great job! Which strings libraries did you use, please?
This is without a doubt the best mockup I've ever heard! Would you be able to compose a song for our animated sci-fi film? I have a very specific example track so you won't have to use as much of your time.
Thanks ! but achieving this level of realism takes a looooot of time
Wow, one of the best! What libs? How did you mix it? Thanx
how did you match the tone of the trumpet from the LSO so good? i mean the brassy tone is just complete wiped away, it sounds very dynamic but it sits perfectly between loud and dynamic but not to weak... I cant imagine what VST you used, i bet you also used costum samples? i would really liike to know because my trumpet sounds very brassy and i dont like it that much.
I have Cinebrass, cinematic studio brass, AROOF, BBCSO, SSB and Sample modelings brass.
Can i archieve the same trumpet sound (or nearly) ??
I don't use and I don't have custom libraries.
This is a combination of brass libraries (Cinematic Studio Brass for sure but I don't remember exactly, maybe I already answered this question in the comments).
Eq is the best tool to fight against the brassy tone (once you have choose the right libraries, and mics positions). But I prefer boosting a softer sound rather than taming a brassy one.
C'est complètement dingo, bravo et merci pour cet incroyable boulot. Puis-je te demander comment tu gères altiverb? Une instance différente par pupitre? Tu utilises le speaker positioner du coup? Tu utilises aussi panagement dans tout ça? Encore merci
Merci à toi, je vais t'envoyer mon numero, je t'expliquerais tout ça par téléphone, ce sera plus simple.
@@UnofficialButTrue Ah mais tellement. Quel honneur et avec plaisir !
-do you use a s1 waves plugin to reduce the stereo?
-Are you doing any processing on the amb or tree micro groups?
I'm using Panagement 1 : www.auburnsounds.com/blog/2019-08-14_Introducing-Panagement-2.html - I must try Panagement 2.
I'm doing a lot of processing everywhere !
@@UnofficialButTrue thanks
what is the best orchestral percussion library for music like star wars in your opinion
I haven't bought it yet but Spitfire Abbey Road low/high percs sounds very good.
Most of the drums/percs in this Main Title are from Spitfire Abbey Road One.
I also used drums from 8dio Majestica which are very good and very cheap right now : 80$
One of the most important thing is the room and these libraries have been recorded in great rooms (Abbey Road is of course the best one).
@@UnofficialButTrue that sounds good!
im getting more and more problems with CSB, it sounds more and more metallic, cold, and hard. im trying to get a warmer sound with it but i dont really know what to use. Saturation, eq, i tried but it just doesnt sound right. for the main lead i use a solo trumpet and 2 trumpet patch. but the bones are sounding really bad. 8dio had a sale some days ago, the century brass for 50$, i wanted to buy it but i had no money on me sadly.
im really waiting for an abbey road one sale, i really hope i can get it then because bbcso lacks really hard at brass.
are abbey road percs better than the one in BBCSO?
The Mockup Awakens... that could be the name of the nostalogy (7, 8 and 9) :D
I just like the typography. For me Star Wars boils down to the Original Trilogy.
How did you make the midi?
Like where did you get the information of the notes?
Did you looked at original sheets for the instruments and wrote it in the piano roll or how did you do that...
Im struggling because my brass library (Nucleus) sounds shit... the sound is good but its just not realistic.
I dont really know where to start, how to write the midis, and especially let it sound realistic with the articulations, do you have any advise, which libraries for each intrument are the best(for strings brass woodwinds and stuff)?
I mainly used the midi file that you can find on Google (Star Wars Main Title midi file).
Jaeger is good at making the modern noisy retarded sound (trailer Music, Zimmer, etc.).
When it comes to serious stuff like Star Wars, you need to use more detailed libraries because it requires a lot of different articulations and instruments.
I recommand Orchestral tools Berlin Brass, Spitfire Orchestral Brass and Cinematic Studio Brass.
But don't expect miracles: keep in mind that even with detailed libraries, you'll need a lot of work and experience to make them sound good.
@@UnofficialButTrue hm okay... That sounds good! Do you got any tipps how i can make brass more realistic? because the sustained notes from nucleus are sounding to straight and not life like...
bro wtf this sounds unbeliebable, what libraries did you used??
Imressive... most impressive...
We need to see, the samples sections alone. BBC spitfire?
what are the orchestral library that you recommend?
I don't have Spitfire BBC. Tell me which libraries you own so that I can make a relevant recommendation, because there are good stuff in almost all libraries.
@@AlecSievern Yes !
@@UnofficialButTrue i have CineCORE-String-Brass-Wind / metro ark 123, time macro micro / 8dio anthology, century brass / albion thundra. Thank you!
What I have is already great I think. what do you recommend ?
@@john2turbo What kind of music do you like/want to compose ?
A list of VST he definitly used:
(Libraries with ? are not sure if he used them or not)
Soaring Strings
Cinematic Studio Strings
Cinematic Studio Brass
Hollywoodwinds (?)
Abbey Road Orchestral Foundations
Berlin Brass
Con Moto Violins
LA Scoring Strings
8DIO Majestica perc
Spitfire Symphonic Brass
Berlin Woodwinds
Metropolis Ark 1
Fabfilters
Panagement
Altiverb (todd ao)
Tape Saturation
Thats what he told me + what i can hear with my non professional ears :)
Please Samy, if you want you can add/delete one or two things if im wrong, but dont delete this, this is so good that people must know that its possible to archieve a sound like this without some mysterious custom libraries :)
Wish you all the best guys!
I didn't use : Cinematic Studio Woodwinds Fabfilter MB Spitfire Harp Joby Burgess perc (?)
but I used : Con Moto Violins, Hollywood Strings, LA Scoring Strings, Berlin Woodwinds, Metropolis Ark 1
You have to keep in mind that sometimes I use a library for a very short sequence only. For example, I think I used Cinematic Studio Strings for a cello layer.
You don't need custom libraries but you need to be able to endure pain.
@@UnofficialButTrue woah thank you so much!
@@UnofficialButTrue this is really helpful, another question, do you have a website or anything where i can read something about you? You seem to be really level headed and intelligent, and for Sure very skilled.. your force awakens Trailer music IS better then blakus version IMO. Yours sounds different but still Like Star Wars, its interesting not boring like the other 08/15 trailer music!
@@talnomix3164 You're welcome, I used also a layer of 8dio Grandiose legato (violins)
@@UnofficialButTrue im interested in the String melody Part, did you use Them there?
C'est incroyable ! Et en plus tu serais français, d'après ce que je lis dans les commentaires ? Mais je vais continuer en anglais, que d'autres puissent en profiter.
I'd also be glad to have more insights on the use of panning, stereo wideness tweaking, and reverb! Do you use 2 reverb buses (one convo "room" and one algo "hall") + some insert additional verbs for especially dry libraries? Or a totally other process? First time I hear about panagement, I'll definitively have a look!
J'ai utilisé les reverbes naturelles des instruments virtuels et j'ai ajouté une session d'Altiverb pour lier le tout.
@@UnofficialButTrue Donc juste jouer sur le mix des mics positions, + un bus d'Altiverb sur l'ensemble (toujours Todd-AO, ou c'est que pour les Sample Modeling ?) Et Panagement, c'est juste pour le positionnement, sans utiliser la reverb incluse ?
@@alcibiademinel Yes !
@@UnofficialButTrue Je trouve la reverb de Panagement 2 vraiment cool. Elle interagit avec le positionnement : le stereo spread de la réverb se réduit avec la distance. Je trouve l'effet très réaliste pour une source lointaine.
@@alcibiademinel Il faudrait que j'essaie. J'ai la version sans reverb.
what brass libraries did you use. They sound amazing
You will find the answer in the comments section of this video or the one called : Star Wars Main Title Mockup - Quick Stems Showcase
@@UnofficialButTrue I looked and saw you use CSB but you said you use others but didnt say which ones
@@yoni2k814 Check @talnomix3164 comment (17 replies) - He listed everything
Softer trumpets version is best! This is insane 🙂👍
Just wondering do you do commissions?
Where is your masterclass bro? i wanna learn from you :)
I will think about that, bring your wallet !
@@UnofficialButTrue let's keep it unofficial, like the vst's i have
Please release your tfa trailer music 💝
lol
@@UnofficialButTrue hehe waiting for it for years xd
@@GPChannelTM Your insistence means a lot. I will release it, i can't tell you when.I would like to improve some things before.
Salut, tu as utilisé berlin percussion pour le timpani ?
Abbey Road One Orchestral Foundations et 8dio Majestica. Sinon j'utilise souvent The Timpani d'Orchestral Tools.
@@UnofficialButTrue Merci !
Your an absolute gem in a time of steroid induced non-melody repetitive cell nonsense! Thank you for sharing your talent with us! Do you score professionally?
Thank you for the kind words ! I work on commercials. I'm also music mixer and programmer.
@@UnofficialButTrue so this is actually your job? scoring mixing and midi programming???
@@talnomix3164 Yes but my main job is composer.
@@UnofficialButTrue is it Well paid? Because im 18 and need a Job, i dont know where to start and this is my dreamjob. But i need to visit some masterclasses, im waiting for yours,:)
@@talnomix3164 There is no fixed rate in this business. It all depends on the client, the budget and the composer. The best thing to do to be a composer is to learn music even if today it is no longer necessary because any idiot with a computer and three plugins can call themselves a composer.
tbh this would be a lot more impressive if I hadn't already heard the Blakus mockup lol. But this is very good too! especially on the strings well done!
Yes, Blakus did a good job, the first attack is amazing and the room/mix is great. He didn't spend enough time on it to polish the strings part.
@@UnofficialButTrue Yes and sorry I didn't mean to offend by comparing to blakus!! I'm just so amazed with these two mockups.
@@MUSICBOT-le9ty You have no reason to apologize ! There is no offense in your first message.
Il y a eu Mozart, John Williams, et toi...
gg vieux mec !!!!
Hello there! Do you work freelance?
Yes, I'm a composer, programmer and mixer.
@@UnofficialButTrue How can we go about contacting you to talk about a potential freelance job?
Sounds awesome for a midi mockup... but, with respect, I find it hard to believe that it's completely in the box. Sounds so close. I completely respect you want to remain anonymous but maybe showing midi tracks content, isolated examples of a section will eventually change my mind. Anyway, thanks for sharing man.
I'm not anonymous, I even shared my personal email in the comment section.
I'm a professional composer, mixer and midi programmer
I've been programming for over 15 years so what you hear is the fruit of my experience.
There is no cheating here just a lot of work.
@@UnofficialButTrue An easy way to prove the authenticity would be to post downloadable separate audio stems with all effects baked in (in the way we only have to mix them together to get the final result).
@@alcibiademinel no way someone is giving you stems. Open up your ears.
Funny how the B melody in the real recording sounds “fake.” It makes me kinda dislike the original.
Seriously ?
Yeah!
Fake. These are two different recordings with real orchestras.
Thanks.
@@UnofficialButTrue This is the only video in your channel with this level of realism in virtual music. Thanks.
@@PertoxBR ua-cam.com/video/nk5sSWZQu-w/v-deo.html
@@PertoxBR Something to say ?
If you don't make a video of yourself exploring through the DAW session of this track and demonstrating your technique, I will assume this is fake.
It's 100% fake.
Anything to say ? ua-cam.com/video/nk5sSWZQu-w/v-deo.html
the difference is huge. the legatos in the virtual are really bad. open up your ears guys