@@evasegodThis made me think about the fact that with the things said I'm surprised there were people mad that it was called grooming when there were many people that was actually being soft on ak and sugarcoating it to just being weird. With all the stuff said they really could call it grooming and predatory if they wanted to and they wouldnt be wrong.
They have to reproduce their values in the younger generations. If they don't, then the microscope is on them once those kids are old enough to call them out
Nah silky obviously calling him a loser for not going to school, scamming streamers for money ect. its crazy to call a victim a desperate loser but still gotta say the facts
@ isn’t he a recently orphaned refugee? Can we give him a pass for not balling at the moment? Also, he’s a child, they ask for help sometimes and adults help them…what facts are you stating here?
@ i know thats why i said its crazy to be saying to a victim or even blaming a child for scamming. I was scamming to at his age. Saying Silky was calling him a loser for not letting himself get groomed is crazy. ion even watch silky but couldnt let that shi go lol
The predators responding in favor of Big Bakademiks remind me of my frustration when men comment on a story about girls/women being assaulted to say that no one cares when it happens to boys/men. Women/girls DO care and empathize. But it's men like these guys who DON'T! But they want to act like women don't care when the truth is that men like this don't care about SA when it happens to ANYONE.
The predators responding in favor of Big Bakademiks remind me of my frustration when men comment on a story about girls/women being assaulted to say that no one cares when it happens to boys/men. Women/girls DO care and empathize! But it's men like these guys who DON'T! But they want to act like women don't care when the truth is that men like this don't care about SA when it happens to ANYONE.
AK still doesn't think he did anything wrong. In this climate, 2025 he goes on a live stream and does that? It's just a big part of his personality and he came up around adults who talk like that, we just never seen AK around kids like that before. Dont be surprised if crazy stuff starts coming out, worse than the 15 yr old.
I ain’t gon lie tho I grew up with niggas like Ak asking those same questions when I was younger with Micheal Jackson as my fav artist niggas used to try to deter me from bro by telling me he would fck me as a jit and with the age of consent in most countries being 16 at 15 niggas already thinking abt fckn so some topics that maybe nerds don’t care abt would already come up conversation like this straight man to straight man ain’t that bad
PlaqueBoyMax is a weirdo for saying he still fucks with Akademiks after all the stuff Ak said to Max’s cousin. He should be protecting the little boy, not defending the man who tried to sexually abuse him.
Only reason he did cause it prob became apparent that he’d begin to lose his account on sites like twitch. Once income becomes at risk is when you see most ppl pivot their position
We got to keep our foot on his neck because he seriously thinks he’s untouchable he literally said he doesn’t give a fk he’s standing on everything he said to that kid we can not let up on this Pedo
Ak's money bot drying up. He makes 80-90% of his income offstream with label dealings and his face value won't affect those deals. Furthermore, they be trying to cancel him for years. He's straight.
The way people don't understand, recognise or completely dismiss grooming and predatory behaviour is greatly concerning. Like, some of y'all should NOT have children omg
I know what they meant but I hate when people try to undermine bad behavior and say it lessens a term just because it wasn't the worst possible form of it. What Ak did can definitely be called grooming, or at least trying to because Nour was doing his best to don't the whole conversation.
Agreed, the people tryna defend ak should be grateful that most of the streamers were going surprisingly soft on him. They could all call him a groomer for what he said and they wouldn't be wrong.
Yes many groomers get off on simple conversations with children and many have never actually touch one inappropriately. Some also wait years before they actually take said physical action hence the word “groom”
Bro i argued with a mf for like 20 mins about this. He said it was the kids fault bc the kid says gay stuff and sexual stuff all the time the kid knows what he's doing. Smh like bro idc if that mf came on the stream wearing a g string tb dildos lol as an adult u go ah nah I'm out like wtf. Sad part hes not alone in this thought process
@@kwoo6925 He's a groomer. This was the definition of grooming. Dudes talking about fucking with underage kids, normalizing sexual conversations. Grooming doesn't always mean he wants to fuck them. It's also about power and control.
Dudes saying you gotta ask random 15 year olds if they are having sex, that’s such a self report. He was also not just asking, he was trying to see if the boy would have sex with an adult man and woman. Stupid.
exactly bro and what i dont get is why is this even a thing like why would you even care about a random kid's sexuality to even ask him about it in a first place. they asked him a weird ahh question about his privacy and sexuality and got mad cuz the kid didnt react the way they want and call him a loser and weirdo like what is wrong with people.
and the fact that the kid is a palestinian refugee ( possibly muslim ) who lives in malaysia ( a muslim country ) maybe he cant even have sex unless he gets married if he is muslim. i know mfs who haven't lost their virginity and they are in their late 20s or even 30s and people act shocked cuz a random kid didnt have sex with an ADULT which makes it way worse. i just cant with internet man people lost their mind😭
@@TrashierPandaThey really do like can we even trust people like Drake, Ak, or Diddy’s entire circles when that phrase “birds of a feather flock together” exists. Like you don’t wanna point fingers at everyone but it’s still a matter of who in their right mind would still hang with these men even after the smallest of weirdo instances go public. Moral of the story choose your friends and connects wisely😐
Thanks to Sean for being a normal, well adjusted individual. The number of streamers showing that they're nothing but chatters who - even though they express themselves for a living - don't know how to express themselves or call a spade a spade, is incredibly revealing.
Dontai was just streaming with Nour at the same time AK was crashing out. Then people told AK that Dontai was streaming with Nour. Then Ak and crew disrespected his wife and kid. So Dontai hopped on call and told it as it was.
Nah this can't be forgiven. That Ak was literally grooming a minor and told all that is already bad enough, but the boy is also an Palestinian refugee who lives in Malaysia now and he lost his mother in the Gaza war. They just said all that shit to him, crazy disrespectful groom operation
I remember as a 15 year old kid my cousins wanted to take me to a strip club/brothel (Hong Kong in Tijuana, if you know you know) and I was super uncomfortable with that, and not one of them stopped and considered my point of view or my circumstance. Instead they all dogged on me and made me feel ostracized. That shit was crazy and looking back it’s still crazy.
Our generation has the responsibility to stop making this type of behavior and talk seem normal. We have been so desensitized to having weird family members and it’s up to us to stop that shit
Damn bro… you’re a victim (joking) but that reminds me of shawns story about his own sexual trauma from engaging with someone who was an adult when he was a minor. Worth listening to btw
The irony of saying that people are chronically online and weird for having an issue with this while not finding it weird and chronically online to ask a random kid over discord sexual questions
"I didn't build this platform to be that irresponsible" when his platform is LITERALLY built on joking about things he shouldn't and not knowing when to stop
I think the distinction they’re trying to make is these guys are trying to make is whether Ak was himself trying to physically harm the boy, and they assume he wasn’t so it’s not grooming. The point is he did have an intention of getting a certain response from the kid, he wanted a certain response from the kid regarding the acts he was saying, he was grooming the child and using influence to get a certain response about the s***al behaviors HE introduced whether he was trying to do those behaviors with the kid or not. There was an obvious intention there even if it wasn’t for personal gain. Besides that it would be strange to act like we can know for sure he wasn’t trying to groom the kid for personal gain. Any adult behaving this way should be on high alert about what they could actually do. Like imagine assuming he wouldn’t.
And they prove FD’s point. People immediately say what it’s not because they don’t like a word vs doing the work to learn what the word actually means.
Grooming isn't always for personal gain either. Grooming can be shown in rappers introducing sexual topics to their kids to get them primed for hiring strippers to sleep with them. Something the guys litterally said they were going to do. That's grooming. No one believes it's grooming until something happens and that needs to stop.
Yes. What's more, a predator doesn't have to physically put his hands on a victim to derive pleasure from what he does. There was a man who was preying on kids online and getting them to even abuse their younger siblings on video for his pleasure. He did this to maybe hundreds of kids. What we saw here were them laying foundations. By acting like it's a joke, they attempt to normalize the topics of conversation so that they can keep introducing them. So, grooming. The ones arguing against that is like saying that a person should be let off for attempted unaliving because they failed in the attempt. The courts give them light sentences, but it doesn't change the intent.
There are things in this world that are beyond debate. Talking or acting inappropriately with underage teens or kids is on top of that list. Even worse when that adult has a platform and influence. AK was WAAAAY too comfortable talking that way to a child, which should by itself set off so many red flags. Because it can only be assumed he has just as bad, if not worse, in private. This guy is dangerous, plain and simple. There is nothing that can make that situation okay, and there shouldn't be any room to platform dangerous weirdos like Akademiks.
He’s mentally unstable and keeps proving this point himself😭He could’ve apologized from the jump (even though it don’t matter) but no he kept arguing and raging which means he know what he did and remember’s it happening too. And the little brother excuse is lame as hell when talking about a child your not related too. He’s sick and needs psychiatric help and rehab…matter of fact lock him up under the jail to protect the kids.
Knowing that Nour is a Palestinian refugee in Malaysia and doesn't speak the language there, the dude calling him a loser and getting on him for asking for money is an absolute clown.
Watching people in the streaming world trying to explain that he needed to apologise whilst ak decidied they needed to apologise to him for calling him weird
whoever edited the video Shawn reacted to needs to be put on Aks PR team. I watched the full 20 minute "apology" stream and it was NOTHING like that. they legit took all his "best" moments and bunched it together. the actual stream was all those clips of him apologizing with 15 minutes of blaming and threatening other streamers spliced throughout.
Crashademiks’ conduct for a minute foreshadowed a lot, like litigating a 17 & 21 year old aren’t different. He earned all the heat & disassociation coming.
I don't get how ppl even wanted him to apologize. This is not something you can just apologize for and move on.💀💀 on some "sorry for being a creep I won't do it again" it doesn't work
Think streamers should stfu when they don’t know the nuance of the words that they say, not trynna hear rage talk about what “real” grooming looks like.
The guys saying this isn't grooming kinda make me mad. One of the men in the call literally says "you know a lot of rappers lost their virginity to older women, right?" No matter how you look at it, he tried to tell a kid that something dangerous and unhealthy is normal, and that he should do it. That is grooming. Point blank.
These are the men who don’t consider young teenagers children and don’t realize they are the creepy old dude. They see these young teenagers as themselves and not as children and them as GROWN men. These are the ones who’d date a 15 year old these are the ones who knows the age of consent in every state and country lol
This wasn’t an apology - this was Akology. He still shows an incredible lack of accountability. Trying to rope others into his disgusting display with that 15-year-old kid is an incredible lack of accountability. Remember, accountability has nothing to do with the other person.
Another correlation I discovered with most Akademiks fans: They say the N word a lot. And as a black person, it doesn't sound right when they say it. Almost like they shouldn't be saying it.
I have a 15 year old brother. Simply having a single conversation with him, truly shows the difference between adults with responsibilities versus being a 15 year old. Im only 8 year's older than him. I have never talked to him about his "sexual conquests." Its just makes my skin crawl even thinking about asking someone in the age bracket about sexaul actives as a family member or just a family friend.
I hate the type of person that has to like double down four times before apologizing, He lost brand deals and shit, He got dropped by stake and they DIDN'T even drop Drake, probably wouldn't have happened if he just said sorry
wtf! That guy calling him a loser and he doesn't go to school!!? He's a Palestine refugee in Malaysa. His mom passed away and he doesn't speak the language there so these people are the only ones Nour is talking to over the internet. I don't care if he is trying yo be cool talking like that the adult should say whoaaaa whoa nope we not doing that! They keep blaming this kid like he can consent with anything! It's literally the definition of Grooming. People hate terminology. They have all said some crazy shit too on stream so they are never going to say it's bad.
He doubled down on his take earlier! The only reason he’s apologizing now is because he’s realized that this is spreading and everyone is genuinely outraged.
I saw his stream. Man could not stop with interspersing his 'apology' with "I'm not defending it, BUT" "if you're woke I get how this seems bad" or "blah blah kendrick fans want to make me seem weird"... like you know damn well that's not how to take accountability for your actions. Fakeass apology.
People mistake grooming as something that's intentional and always sexual. F.D Signifier has a good video about Akademiks and how that mindset starts or is defended. I suggest watching the full video.
This is why jokes like he made about bad bhabies 15 year old body aren’t funny and should be taken serious. He should’ve been got this treatment for that tweet a long time ago.
These are the type of people that can say “Yeah she 17, I know I got caught to talking to her, but so what? It’s not like I was actually gonna meet up with her.” Type shitt. People just don’t understand the principles of things. The fact that you did it emotionally or mentally is enough.
i doubt some of these people actually understand the definition of patriarchy have you seen how many people recently that just dont understand tariffs even though they've been explained all our lives in school and other places
Here is the problem with online debate/argue after seeing shipload of people arguing over stupid shit on the internet IT WILL DO NOTHING TO ANYTHING Everybody there already made up their mind and nobody there are open to change their views no matter how many fact you provide
I would disagree specifically on the idea that grooming can be accidental. It inherently has to be intentional that’s why when someone is called a groomer it’s meant in a more insidious way because the act of grooming is methodical by definition.
We wonder who else was on that stream not showing their face not speaking and if I were to put my money on it, it would be these fools that are defending the ridiculousness.
Its wild to me how many times we've ignored women telling us he's a sex predator because of their own experiences with him. It's sad people will just ignore things like that, to the point it has to come all the way to this.
He doubled down on his take earlier! The only reason he’s apologizing now is because he’s realized that this has gotten big and everyone is genuinely outraged.
We come from a time when it's okay to talk to young boys this way, and this is another moment to acknowledge that a lot of the things that happened "back in the day" were wrong.
Why are people surprised. As someone who has been watching Ak since I was a kid I knew he was weird when he cried on stream over the lil boom situation. His gripe wasn’t over Boom being a predator but because he ‘lied’ to him.
He’s only apologizing because it’s now starting to affect his business before. He said he doesn’t apologize for anything and he stands on whatever he says he doesn’t give a F so apparently the only reason why he is fussing up is because he can’t get around it too many people saw it.
Keep in mind he’s only apologizing because he got banned on Twitch. If this wasn’t fucking up his money or reputation as badly as it is, he wouldn’t be.
anyone blaming the child is a massive red flag. check their DMs and hard drives
Kid clearly didn't want to talk about anything and these grown ass men are pressing him in front of thousands on camera.
@@evasegodeven if he wanted to talk about it, it would be weird
@@evasegodThis made me think about the fact that with the things said I'm surprised there were people mad that it was called grooming when there were many people that was actually being soft on ak and sugarcoating it to just being weird.
With all the stuff said they really could call it grooming and predatory if they wanted to and they wouldnt be wrong.
PDFs hiding in the comments section
BIG facts
Calling the kid a desperate loser for not wanting to talking about sex with you is actually insane. People need to start listening to how they sound
They have to reproduce their values in the younger generations. If they don't, then the microscope is on them once those kids are old enough to call them out
That and “we gave him money so of course we’re allowed to groom him” like they are used to being able to purchase people. Traffic vibes.
Nah silky obviously calling him a loser for not going to school, scamming streamers for money ect. its crazy to call a victim a desperate loser but still gotta say the facts
@ isn’t he a recently orphaned refugee? Can we give him a pass for not balling at the moment? Also, he’s a child, they ask for help sometimes and adults help them…what facts are you stating here?
@ i know thats why i said its crazy to be saying to a victim or even blaming a child for scamming. I was scamming to at his age. Saying Silky was calling him a loser for not letting himself get groomed is crazy. ion even watch silky but couldnt let that shi go lol
Akademiks defended 6ix9ine for 3 years and now he’s Drake’s biggest glazer. This man is a danger to children.
To society period.
🗣️🗣️🗣️
ur gd right magdalena bay
The predators responding in favor of Big Bakademiks remind me of my frustration when men comment on a story about girls/women being assaulted to say that no one cares when it happens to boys/men. Women/girls DO care and empathize. But it's men like these guys who DON'T! But they want to act like women don't care when the truth is that men like this don't care about SA when it happens to ANYONE.
6ix9ine is a pdf? I only heard that he snitched when did he get exposed?
Mfs are unironically defending being the creepy strangers your parents warn you about when you first get on the internet as a kid.
The stranger that gamestop employee told my parents about and fumbled me getting some games
The predators responding in favor of Big Bakademiks remind me of my frustration when men comment on a story about girls/women being assaulted to say that no one cares when it happens to boys/men. Women/girls DO care and empathize! But it's men like these guys who DON'T! But they want to act like women don't care when the truth is that men like this don't care about SA when it happens to ANYONE.
I’m sorry, but Ak didn’t need to wait for somebody to tell him it was wrong, the 15-year-old was telling him it was wrong during the conversation.
AK still doesn't think he did anything wrong. In this climate, 2025 he goes on a live stream and does that? It's just a big part of his personality and he came up around adults who talk like that, we just never seen AK around kids like that before. Dont be surprised if crazy stuff starts coming out, worse than the 15 yr old.
He already has pending charges on a r@pe case@@Ims51
I ain’t gon lie tho I grew up with niggas like Ak asking those same questions when I was younger with Micheal Jackson as my fav artist niggas used to try to deter me from bro by telling me he would fck me as a jit and with the age of consent in most countries being 16 at 15 niggas already thinking abt fckn so some topics that maybe nerds don’t care abt would already come up conversation like this straight man to straight man ain’t that bad
@@Ims51it’s already out? He’s raped a woman and has consistently defended misogynists and abusers
Apologizing after all the shit he said and tripling down is crazy
fake ass apology. Tried deflecting, didn't work, so now he apologises. It's a game to him
@klipk7296He could barely apologize to anyone, let alone nour himself 😂
PlaqueBoyMax is a weirdo for saying he still fucks with Akademiks after all the stuff Ak said to Max’s cousin. He should be protecting the little boy, not defending the man who tried to sexually abuse him.
it aint crazy. its very alarming. we should probably start making shirts for him.
Only reason he did cause it prob became apparent that he’d begin to lose his account on sites like twitch. Once income becomes at risk is when you see most ppl pivot their position
It's crazy to call a 15 year old Palestinian refugee who lost his mother a "loser"
And the context makes it even more heinous….
Especially when your whole life is being an Internet clown that people throw money at to do something funny. The lack of self reflection is wild.
wtf the kid's palestinian too??
@@malum9478yes. Relocated to Malaysia.
I mean ak was wrong but that kid a known Scammer
Aaaand Akademiks was just banned fron Twitch 😅
Great timing with this one, Shawn.
He’ll say it’s Kendrick fans again
Maybe he'll sue Twitch 😂
God finally some repercussions. So tired of this "man" getting away with his BS for so many years
@@morbidtoaster8615"Jeff Bezos is a Kendrick fan" I can hear it already.
And allegedly Stake unfollowed him on IG lol
As soon as AK saw the money might start drying up he switched to the cookie cutter UA-camr apology 😭
Didn't work out 😂
We got to keep our foot on his neck because he seriously thinks he’s untouchable he literally said he doesn’t give a fk he’s standing on everything he said to that kid we can not let up on this Pedo
Exactly! He was tripling down on this bullshit at first before he realized that the clips were spreading and people were actually furious.
Ak's money bot drying up. He makes 80-90% of his income offstream with label dealings and his face value won't affect those deals. Furthermore, they be trying to cancel him for years. He's straight.
The way people don't understand, recognise or completely dismiss grooming and predatory behaviour is greatly concerning. Like, some of y'all should NOT have children omg
It’s baffling how dismissive some people are of this
Fr… its actually concerning.
Grown men calling a boy a loser for not wanting other grown men to talk sexual to him...this is beyond twisted
And then later a lot of men (usually misogynists) have the nerve to say no one cares when men/boys are assaulted. They don't GAF, themselves.
Grooming also doesn't always have the end goal of having a sexual relationship.
I know what they meant but I hate when people try to undermine bad behavior and say it lessens a term just because it wasn't the worst possible form of it. What Ak did can definitely be called grooming, or at least trying to because Nour was doing his best to don't the whole conversation.
Agreed, the people tryna defend ak should be grateful that most of the streamers were going surprisingly soft on him.
They could all call him a groomer for what he said and they wouldn't be wrong.
Fiq did a really good Light Work on this - actually I think it’s the best short video he’s ever made. Definitely worth a watch
Predators "groom" parents so they can get in proximity. It simply means manipulation.
Yes many groomers get off on simple conversations with children and many have never actually touch one inappropriately. Some also wait years before they actually take said physical action hence the word “groom”
Groomers always blame the child.... or someone else. Do NOT let him get away with this. He is dangerous to women and children. I'm so serious.
He’s not a groomer….he is a weirdo though
Bro i argued with a mf for like 20 mins about this. He said it was the kids fault bc the kid says gay stuff and sexual stuff all the time the kid knows what he's doing. Smh like bro idc if that mf came on the stream wearing a g string tb dildos lol as an adult u go ah nah I'm out like wtf. Sad part hes not alone in this thought process
@@kwoo6925 He's a groomer. This was the definition of grooming. Dudes talking about fucking with underage kids, normalizing sexual conversations. Grooming doesn't always mean he wants to fuck them. It's also about power and control.
@@kwoo6925
A groomer is a weirdo . . .
He is a groomer.
@@kwoo6925he’s definitely a groomer
Dudes saying you gotta ask random 15 year olds if they are having sex, that’s such a self report. He was also not just asking, he was trying to see if the boy would have sex with an adult man and woman. Stupid.
Facts, and ak saying he was treating him as lil bro when dudes is in his 30s and Nour DONT know him like that at all 😂
exactly bro and what i dont get is why is this even a thing like why would you even care about a random kid's sexuality to even ask him about it in a first place. they asked him a weird ahh question about his privacy and sexuality and got mad cuz the kid didnt react the way they want and call him a loser and weirdo like what is wrong with people.
and the fact that the kid is a palestinian refugee ( possibly muslim ) who lives in malaysia ( a muslim country ) maybe he cant even have sex unless he gets married if he is muslim. i know mfs who haven't lost their virginity and they are in their late 20s or even 30s and people act shocked cuz a random kid didnt have sex with an ADULT which makes it way worse. i just cant with internet man people lost their mind😭
@@ΤΟΣΠΟΥΔΑΙΟyou know who else was “brothers”? Diddy and Usher
Wrestling over Frosted Flakes 🥴😭
We not buying it Ak!
That's exactly what they were doing.
Weird interactions with a minor being the thing to take down Ak is poetic justice.
Crazy, Scary, Spooky, Hilarious
Crazy,scary,spooky, hilarious
crazy, scary, spooky, hilarious
Poetic justice, put it in a song
Them predators move in flocks🤫
@@TrashierPandaThey really do like can we even trust people like Drake, Ak, or Diddy’s entire circles when that phrase “birds of a feather flock together” exists. Like you don’t wanna point fingers at everyone but it’s still a matter of who in their right mind would still hang with these men even after the smallest of weirdo instances go public. Moral of the story choose your friends and connects wisely😐
Thanks to Sean for being a normal, well adjusted individual. The number of streamers showing that they're nothing but chatters who - even though they express themselves for a living - don't know how to express themselves or call a spade a spade, is incredibly revealing.
Indeed
Thats what I like about shawn, he’s just a regular rational person who’s not brain rotted lol
Until it's about Mexicans
Akademics is permanently banned from Twitch, and lost 2 sponsorships already ! And I hope this is just the beginning
Bro called it a “teachable moment” as if you need to be taught that it’s wrong to say sexual things to little boys 😂
@@BigOwl51as if he wasn’t accused of graping a woman already smh
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@@BigOwl51”Teachable moment” Bruh YOU ARE 49😭😭
Rip bozo
Dontai was just streaming with Nour at the same time AK was crashing out. Then people told AK that Dontai was streaming with Nour. Then Ak and crew disrespected his wife and kid. So Dontai hopped on call and told it as it was.
Can you send the clip?
Ak didnt disrespect his wife that was AJ. Get yo facts straight
@@dtrizzle67Wasn't Ak holding in his laugh and he didn't even talk to AJ about disrespecting Danielle while she wasn't even there to defend herself.
@@dtrizzle67So his facts is already straight
@@dtrizzle67 The OC said "Ak and crew"
"i didn't do it sir" ahh apology 😭😭🙏
“What I did was wrong but…” ahh apology
Last resort Ahh response "Officer, It was AI"
Nah this can't be forgiven. That Ak was literally grooming a minor and told all that is already bad enough, but the boy is also an Palestinian refugee who lives in Malaysia now and he lost his mother in the Gaza war. They just said all that shit to him, crazy disrespectful groom operation
No way omg… this new info breaks my heart. God i hope he has a good support system. The internet is rough, but all that ontop of it is crazy.
i hope that isn’t true. that’s horrible
He's a Palestinian refugee living in Malaysia who's mother died and he doesn't speak the language where he is at that's why he's online all the time.
You’re cute as a button.
Poor child is a victim and trying to find an escape and friendship
I remember as a 15 year old kid my cousins wanted to take me to a strip club/brothel (Hong Kong in Tijuana, if you know you know) and I was super uncomfortable with that, and not one of them stopped and considered my point of view or my circumstance. Instead they all dogged on me and made me feel ostracized. That shit was crazy and looking back it’s still crazy.
Our generation has the responsibility to stop making this type of behavior and talk seem normal. We have been so desensitized to having weird family members and it’s up to us to stop that shit
Damn bro… you’re a victim (joking) but that reminds me of shawns story about his own sexual trauma from engaging with someone who was an adult when he was a minor. Worth listening to btw
The irony of saying that people are chronically online and weird for having an issue with this while not finding it weird and chronically online to ask a random kid over discord sexual questions
Shout out to mr.cee for being one of the few online ppl to not be an absolute weirdo.
(Hope this doesn't age badly)
I’ve been on the internet long enough to never give credit to any online personality for being a good person. It will 7/10 age badly.
We're gonna find out he's a broney
@@yaboytroy357You’re absolutely right unfortunately we don’t know him or anyone behind the scenes.
Well… as a regular viewer of shawn for years, he’s well adjusted and thankfully normal and reasonable.
@@JesterisimYeah, he's a choir boy at heart
"I didn't build this platform to be that irresponsible" when his platform is LITERALLY built on joking about things he shouldn't and not knowing when to stop
all these guys blaming the kid or defending AK are SELF REPORTING and need to be checked ASAP
I think the distinction they’re trying to make is these guys are trying to make is whether Ak was himself trying to physically harm the boy, and they assume he wasn’t so it’s not grooming. The point is he did have an intention of getting a certain response from the kid, he wanted a certain response from the kid regarding the acts he was saying, he was grooming the child and using influence to get a certain response about the s***al behaviors HE introduced whether he was trying to do those behaviors with the kid or not.
There was an obvious intention there even if it wasn’t for personal gain.
Besides that it would be strange to act like we can know for sure he wasn’t trying to groom the kid for personal gain. Any adult behaving this way should be on high alert about what they could actually do. Like imagine assuming he wouldn’t.
And they prove FD’s point. People immediately say what it’s not because they don’t like a word vs doing the work to learn what the word actually means.
Grooming isn't always for personal gain either. Grooming can be shown in rappers introducing sexual topics to their kids to get them primed for hiring strippers to sleep with them. Something the guys litterally said they were going to do. That's grooming. No one believes it's grooming until something happens and that needs to stop.
Yes. What's more, a predator doesn't have to physically put his hands on a victim to derive pleasure from what he does. There was a man who was preying on kids online and getting them to even abuse their younger siblings on video for his pleasure. He did this to maybe hundreds of kids. What we saw here were them laying foundations. By acting like it's a joke, they attempt to normalize the topics of conversation so that they can keep introducing them. So, grooming. The ones arguing against that is like saying that a person should be let off for attempted unaliving because they failed in the attempt. The courts give them light sentences, but it doesn't change the intent.
5 secs in and I'm already regretting watching this ...
Yo when 2012 Daffey Duck says that, you know you gone too far.
2012 Daffy Duck is basically Prime Bron don’t ask me how that make sense
There’s stuff like this where I don’t think you can make a sudden apology. Dude tried to groom a child and failed. He should be offline.
He saw no issue with what he did till his wallet took a hit. That is definitely a massive red flag!
There are things in this world that are beyond debate. Talking or acting inappropriately with underage teens or kids is on top of that list. Even worse when that adult has a platform and influence. AK was WAAAAY too comfortable talking that way to a child, which should by itself set off so many red flags. Because it can only be assumed he has just as bad, if not worse, in private. This guy is dangerous, plain and simple. There is nothing that can make that situation okay, and there shouldn't be any room to platform dangerous weirdos like Akademiks.
@10:26 they calling him a loser and this and that mind you this kid is a displaced Palestinian refugee
Ak saying he drinks everyday and not realize that’s not normal is wild. No wonder he be drinking vodka like water on stream.
He’s mentally unstable and keeps proving this point himself😭He could’ve apologized from the jump (even though it don’t matter) but no he kept arguing and raging which means he know what he did and remember’s it happening too. And the little brother excuse is lame as hell when talking about a child your not related too. He’s sick and needs psychiatric help and rehab…matter of fact lock him up under the jail to protect the kids.
He hates himself
That wasn't an apology... It was not.
Perfect example of when apologizing makes things worse
He’s about to cry in his chair😂
😂😂😂
With the Henny 😂
Knowing that Nour is a Palestinian refugee in Malaysia and doesn't speak the language there, the dude calling him a loser and getting on him for asking for money is an absolute clown.
That guy needs a hospital visit, that was so insane
Ak is defo a threat to young women and kids. This was a massive self report by everyone that was in that call. Hard drives need to combed through now.
Watching people in the streaming world trying to explain that he needed to apologise whilst ak decidied they needed to apologise to him for calling him weird
"It's gotten too wicked to apologize."
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@kadeemsahpeak7403 💯✊🏾
whoever edited the video Shawn reacted to needs to be put on Aks PR team. I watched the full 20 minute "apology" stream and it was NOTHING like that. they legit took all his "best" moments and bunched it together. the actual stream was all those clips of him apologizing with 15 minutes of blaming and threatening other streamers spliced throughout.
Crashademiks’ conduct for a minute foreshadowed a lot, like litigating a 17 & 21 year old aren’t different. He earned all the heat & disassociation coming.
I don't get how ppl even wanted him to apologize. This is not something you can just apologize for and move on.💀💀 on some "sorry for being a creep I won't do it again" it doesn't work
Get AKadiddles tf outta here
Think streamers should stfu when they don’t know the nuance of the words that they say, not trynna hear rage talk about what “real” grooming looks like.
To them "real grooming" is r. Kelly, anything less is just creepy
The guys saying this isn't grooming kinda make me mad. One of the men in the call literally says "you know a lot of rappers lost their virginity to older women, right?" No matter how you look at it, he tried to tell a kid that something dangerous and unhealthy is normal, and that he should do it. That is grooming. Point blank.
These are the men who don’t consider young teenagers children and don’t realize they are the creepy old dude. They see these young teenagers as themselves and not as children and them as GROWN men. These are the ones who’d date a 15 year old these are the ones who knows the age of consent in every state and country lol
“I’ll just take the responsibility.” How noble an offer to accept accountability for your own actions… is that unusual for you (AK), friend? 🤔
Ak getting multiple thousands of ppl that still tune in to his streams is another reason where I realized this gen is cooked.
AK is currently banned off Twitch which is insane. That's just a slap on the wrist but bro made the situation worse than it needed to be
He on UA-cam live acting like nothing happened
@@RenoDeJuan99 Sad
This wasn’t an apology - this was Akology. He still shows an incredible lack of accountability. Trying to rope others into his disgusting display with that 15-year-old kid is an incredible lack of accountability. Remember, accountability has nothing to do with the other person.
Another correlation I discovered with most Akademiks fans: They say the N word a lot. And as a black person, it doesn't sound right when they say it. Almost like they shouldn't be saying it.
Half his fans that say the N word ain’t even black! Like that loud ass Latino dude in this video! Shut all these fools down!
There's no "almost" to it. They shouldn't be.
@@LadyAstarionAncunin Don't think you got my point but I feel you big dog.
I was not expecting to see an Omar and Shawn Cee crossover
I have a 15 year old brother. Simply having a single conversation with him, truly shows the difference between adults with responsibilities versus being a 15 year old. Im only 8 year's older than him. I have never talked to him about his "sexual conquests." Its just makes my skin crawl even thinking about asking someone in the age bracket about sexaul actives as a family member or just a family friend.
He must have been drunk when he doubled down on all of this the other day. Then he sobered up and came out and apologized…. Super weird 😂
A drunken mind only contains sober thoughts. He meant every word, even if he was “drunk”.
@ true
No the crew on the apology call is still crazy
I hate the type of person that has to like double down four times before apologizing, He lost brand deals and shit, He got dropped by stake and they DIDN'T even drop Drake, probably wouldn't have happened if he just said sorry
He’s cancelled
Ak would’ve deffo pushed this under the rug if not for the backlash lmaoo
wtf! That guy calling him a loser and he doesn't go to school!!? He's a Palestine refugee in Malaysa. His mom passed away and he doesn't speak the language there so these people are the only ones Nour is talking to over the internet. I don't care if he is trying yo be cool talking like that the adult should say whoaaaa whoa nope we not doing that! They keep blaming this kid like he can consent with anything! It's literally the definition of Grooming. People hate terminology. They have all said some crazy shit too on stream so they are never going to say it's bad.
He doubled down on his take earlier! The only reason he’s apologizing now is because he’s realized that this is spreading and everyone is genuinely outraged.
I saw his stream. Man could not stop with interspersing his 'apology' with "I'm not defending it, BUT" "if you're woke I get how this seems bad" or "blah blah kendrick fans want to make me seem weird"... like you know damn well that's not how to take accountability for your actions. Fakeass apology.
People mistake grooming as something that's intentional and always sexual. F.D Signifier has a good video about Akademiks and how that mindset starts or is defended. I suggest watching the full video.
Nah as a 42 year old man i got no reasons to interact with a 15 year old online literally
Saying all of this after just having an interview with Vybz Kartel in Jamaica is CRAZY. Fiyahhh 🇯🇲🔥
Bro forgot his Ukulele, smh.
Mind you akademiks only knew nour for a week and felt comfortable to talk to him like that
Ohmeezy and Shawn Cee “collab” we are one step closer to Shawn being on LKIAB
This is why jokes like he made about bad bhabies 15 year old body aren’t funny and should be taken serious. He should’ve been got this treatment for that tweet a long time ago.
These are the type of people that can say “Yeah she 17, I know I got caught to talking to her, but so what? It’s not like I was actually gonna meet up with her.” Type shitt. People just don’t understand the principles of things. The fact that you did it emotionally or mentally is enough.
Travis Scott ahh apology💀
not accepting no damn apology. he doesnt deserve it man took too long to apologize and its just gross
Drake is in his house cheering that he never went on bros stream right now.
bro's officially ovo certified
i doubt some of these people actually understand the definition of patriarchy have you seen how many people recently that just dont understand tariffs even though they've been explained all our lives in school and other places
15:00 im watching Shawn react to Rage react to Dontaii react to AK…I need to get my life together
I think Katt Williams meant 2025 was the year where dudes would get exposed moreso than 2024 😂
THESE PREDATORS MOVE IN FLOCKS
Here is the problem with online debate/argue after seeing shipload of people arguing over stupid shit on the internet
IT WILL DO NOTHING TO ANYTHING
Everybody there already made up their mind and nobody there are open to change their views no matter how many fact you provide
I would disagree specifically on the idea that grooming can be accidental. It inherently has to be intentional that’s why when someone is called a groomer it’s meant in a more insidious way because the act of grooming is methodical by definition.
You are correct, as "grooming" implies intent.
Sean ready to tear down the patriarchy let’s goooo 🫡
We wonder who else was on that stream not showing their face not speaking and if I were to put my money on it, it would be these fools that are defending the ridiculousness.
Its wild to me how many times we've ignored women telling us he's a sex predator because of their own experiences with him. It's sad people will just ignore things like that, to the point it has to come all the way to this.
Ak desperately wants to be a teenager and its creepy. Im his age so it makes it so much weirder knowing how removed i am from a teens world
ak didn't grow up since youtube days
Kinda like drake
He doubled down on his take earlier! The only reason he’s apologizing now is because he’s realized that this has gotten big and everyone is genuinely outraged.
EDP ahh apology
Ak has a whole gang r8pe case and now he’s talking about sez with a child 😑
Akademiks has a rope accusation from 2022 he's still dealing with, don't forget that
We come from a time when it's okay to talk to young boys this way, and this is another moment to acknowledge that a lot of the things that happened "back in the day" were wrong.
Yeah no, we not acceptin that apology ✌🏾😂
LBH, Ak is not apologizing because he feels real remorse. This is a business apology.
Why are people surprised. As someone who has been watching Ak since I was a kid I knew he was weird when he cried on stream over the lil boom situation. His gripe wasn’t over Boom being a predator but because he ‘lied’ to him.
He’s only apologizing because it’s now starting to affect his business before. He said he doesn’t apologize for anything and he stands on whatever he says he doesn’t give a F so apparently the only reason why he is fussing up is because he can’t get around it too many people saw it.
AMP been super quiet lately.
“Put the wrong label on me, ima get him dropped”
His apology means nothing to nobody now
Keep in mind he’s only apologizing because he got banned on Twitch. If this wasn’t fucking up his money or reputation as badly as it is, he wouldn’t be.
Extremely important coverage from Shawn here and I love that he promotes the great FD signifier’s work
Maaaan AK can keep his half-ass apology
Don't care about his apology, pack him out
kendrick diss tracks and mr morale keep aging like fine wine damn