English Pronunciation: T after R like in PARTY - American English
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
- ESL: How to pronounce T? Learn the American English accent / pronunciation with videos from Rachel's English.
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Hi Simcha,
Thanks for your comment. I'm working on a video on this right now. :) It is the same sound as a D between vowels in American English, which is like [ɾ]. But since [ɾ] isn't a symbol you'll see associated with American English in the leading dictionaries, I've decided to simplify and go with [d], since 'matter' = 'madder'.
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Yes, it's like the Spanish and Portuguese R. It's also like the American D in similar situations: matter = madder.
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First of all, thank you all your videos, they are really helpful.
This - T after R like in PARTY - is what I find the most difficult pronunciation in english, but you did an excellent job explaining it.
Now I guess it's just a matter of practice until I pronounce it the right way even in my mind while reading!
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really good. I've always wanted to find a video like this, specially with the R-T. I think there should be professors like you in regular schools because the only thing that English professors teach you is how to write it but speaking it is as important as writing it and I've had trouble pronouncing RT sounds for a very long time. Love it.
I do have a website, and offer courses. Check it out --- the link is in the description. :)
The T in 'to' can only be flapped as part of a phrase, if a vowel or R sound comes before "go to", "he's a father to me". I don't make my R with the tongue flipped up, but I think it would still be the same flap sound in both cases.
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It's a Great explanation . thank you Rachel.
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I have made a video on B and P -- they can be hard to distinguish. I don't have DVDs, but I do offer an online course. Visit my website to sign up for my mailing list to find out about the next one! :)
Oh wow this has been 9 years ago!? Damn! Thank you Rachel. You see Rachel, I was graduated with English degree in my non-native country and after years of working I found myself doing better with English with my speculation that it's from mimicking stuff surrounding me every day. That means I do not know the mechanism of them, which is why I'm here. I may sound pretty like native speakers as they said to me but I've never truly understood how it works. Thank you very much for your videos.
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How much I am thankful to you for bringing this subject up! Really improved my pronunciation. I used to pronounce t in the word Article for years so far!! Now anymore, though. Thanks.
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This is a very useful video. I have been living in Canada for a few months now and I still struggle with words like party (which I tend to use often as a college student). In my native language both r and t are very hard sounds and r's are rolling. Watching your video and practicing really helps!
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@ourtortsystem Yes, they are! (when pronounced this way. The 'official' pronunciation of T is never the D... this is just the way it is in everyday speech)
OMG Rachel !! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO ! That was EXACTLY what I was looking for !
Hi Svetlana, check out my video on T pronunciations, that might help: watch?v=iZ8p85NRAsI
Also, my most recent video gives a tip for practicing the Flap T: /watch?v=Y7FUneS1mBs
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You cannot imagine how much your videos do help! Especially this one! I'm not exaggerating here but I have been really wanting to pronounce the word "party" like native Americans but unfortunately I could never find a way. Now that I have you, I think I can never find a better one!! =D
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Yes, exactly right.
Fact is that /t/ and /d/ are tongue-alveolar phonemes in English (unlike Latin languages), sharing the same point of articulation with /n/ and /l/: "want to do" or "wanda do" becomes "wanna do" (/n/ and /d/ fuse together). Unstressed /t/ becomes /d/. And there's also the glottal stop as in "lalety" [lay 'lee]. Right Rachel? You're great!
Thanks for your comment. I've chosen not to use [ɾ] and to instead use [d] b/c we already use that symbol in American English, and I have yet to see a dictionary that uses [ɾ]. So, I made that choice for simplicity. I do agree that the sound of a D and a T both between vowels is equivalent to [ɾ].
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@AndreAbsol We only have one symbol for D, and I would say when it comes between two vowels, it is just like a T between two vowels. You're right that it is quick. Very similar to the sound you suggested.
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This is really hard for me to pronounce, but I am practicing. Thanks very much for the video!!
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Check out this video: /watch?v=1FDjhKY8HwM
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I really like the sound flap T in American accent. Thanks a lot!
as a spanish speaker i wanna ad that when you say the letter "D" or its at the beginning of a word (different), it sounds like a D, but when in the middle of a word(middle) it sou ds more like an R (at least to spanish speakers), hence why we have so much trouble saying party, and no one explains it from our point of view. to us it just sound pary kind of. so maybe you can give spanish speakers more insight if you never knew that we wont understand the T sounds like a D, because D has 2 different sounds, one sounds like a D and the other sound like an R Kind of; to us at least.
+victor diaz yes same thing in arabic
I had thought the same. For us it is like a light and fast R.
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Rachel is wrong though, and here is why.
Americans don't pronunce it as "d". In fact, those are two completely different sounds (/d/ and /ɾ/). The "t ; tt ; d ; dd ; th" group, depending on accent, can be pronounced as an alveolar tap (phonetically speaking, it is the symbol /ɾ/. Which is the center of this topic of discussion). To put in an example, it is the same "r sound" from the word "pero" and "party" (AmE accent).
Hope this clears it up. Further questions just reply me. I will try and reply asap.
you right. For us spanish speakers its kind of hard if they dont explain us as ous point of view, it would be easier for us 4 example if they just use "R" as a sound for so many words.
That's a good point. I, as a native Italian speaker, have never had problems with the D sound in words like 'Eddie', 'pity' and so on, in fact in these cases the sound is the same as an Italian or Spanish R, called alveolar tap. Words like 'party' and 'murder' on the other hand are very tough, which doesn't make sense, because if it really were the same sound in there, I should have no problem with it.
I did some research, and as it turns out, in these two cases two different versions of the sound are produced. In words like 'Eddie' the D is pronounced as an alveolar TAP, which we do have in Italian, Spanish, Arabic and so on, so it comes natural to us. In words like 'party' instead it is an alveolar FLAP, which sounds a bit different and is produced with a different movement of the tongue. We do not have this sound in Italian and Spanish so we just have to learn it from scratch.
Here's the Wikipedia page: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dental_and_alveolar_flaps
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It's too hard man, some stuff like that makes me lose hope to speak english and youtubers like these here also speak fast like we are super speakers
Don't worry u'll catch up. I often pause alot to practice.
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Thank you, Rachel! I had problems with this subject and with little practice my pronunciation is much better :) Cheers from Croatia!
Really interesting!! All the words and phrases given by you at the end of the video are pronounced with the flap T in google translator. I hadn't noticed that, even though I use a lot the google translator. I know it's not a perfect tool but it helps.
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Thanks, Rachel.. I found this video, and I watched during twenty minutes and it is helping me too much. I'm from Brazil, and I also think you so beautiful.
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Party in England can be pronounced Pah-ee, or Potty depending on location
Yes, the Flap T sounds just like the R in certain languages, like Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic.
You are using regional speech. It is also very common to hear the following: 'alert' [?a] as there is a a glottal in front of the mid low vowel. Also in the case of 'party' [pa?di] or [pa?thi] (not switching to the real IPA on this keyboard) the glottal stop in the USA is not used as much as in the UK but this is a case where you will find it.
I see now, so you pronounce the first word with the r and then right after the light d, like in party, alerted, etc. Thank you!
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@gv1216 I pronounce it with a D. It's a little tricky b/c the schwa/N sound after it can be a little swallowed, like GAR-dn.
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That´s because the ¨r¨ sound becomes syllabic, this is called syllabicity in phonetics when a consonant becomes a prominent o central element in the syllable. The same applies to the ¨L¨ sound in for example ¨little¨.
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Thanks for the video. The lesson was quite helpful. Could you please give me some outline of what an assimilation is and if there's any difference between American and British Pronunciation regarding this topic?
I'm not sure about there being a difference between American and British English regarding assimilation, but I think this site does a good job of explaining this concept in connection with phonology! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assimilation_(phonology)
@sarasarapowdersnow Do you mean 'pattern'? I would pronounce it 'paddern.'
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@ricolee622 I would say here the word 'of' reduces to just the schwa sound -- no V sound. Part-uh-the-problem.
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That's the alveolar tap or flap [ɾ], also you can hear it in "forty".
Hi Rachel, I found this video very useful!
I don't have difficulty pronouncing the Flap T in words such as "matter" or "latter". I think here the Flap T sounds like the Spanish R. However, it's very difficult for me to pronounce words such as "party" or "forty". I don't think using the Spanish R here will produce the correct T. It's just very difficult going from American R to Spanish R!
I will appreciate it very much if you give me some feedback.
Hi! You are not alone in finding this difficult! I think the thing to realize is that the Flap T can be made by flapping the tongue ANYWHERE on the roof of the mouth. What matters is the speed, not the location. So, don't feel like you need to bring the tongue forward again after the American English R and tap the tongue on the roof of the mouth right behind the teeth. It can happen further back than that and it will still sound natural. This may help you pronounce these words with more ease.
@@rachelsenglish Thanks, Rachel🙂🙂That explanation helps! I always thought that I need to bring my tongue forward to produce the Flap T. As you say, I will try to tap anywhere on the roof of my mouth. You're great, please keep up the good work!👏 👏
Pronouncing "Party" in American english is quite beautiful !!
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It has the same sound of the r of the portuguese word "amarelo"
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OK I agree with you about the smoothness of American dialect but sometimes we can have some homonyms like sordid and sorted . Wouldn't this make a big difference in the meaning ? He is sorted and He is sordid.
Yes! However, context will help the listener know which one you are using. It would be rare that those words would be confused for each other!
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Thanks Rachel. One thing you did not mention is that the tongue seems to go down when pronouncing the 'd' after the 't' sound here. I feel the my tongue comes down from the rolled up position and hits my palate with the bottom of the tip of my tongue, and not with the top part of it. Am I wrong?
That "t" pronunciation is so hard for me. I'm trying for a long time, and my tongue doesn't obey me. it is practically impossible for me to say the word "party". I'm brazilian.
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Yeah the same here. Have been trying for ages and my tongue is troubling me so much.
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! Me too! I hate this word. I can't pronounce it like a native speaker at all. My tongue can't do this
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Hi Rachel, first of all, thank you for your videos. Is this sound like the sound of the "r" in the Spanish word "PERO"?
I have such a hard time pronouncing words such as charted, harder, carter, murder. I sound like charer harer carer murer. What do you suggest to improve?
In your dialect of Portuguese, do you use the rolled R (apical trill), or the one farther back (uvular fricative)? The apical trill is the same as the flap [ɾ], except the flap isonly one flap. So it's impossible to pronounce a flap after a trill - it just sounds like part of the trill.
I grew up in America, so American English is my reference point. Therefore, of course, British English doesn't sound like the only 'real' English to me.
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How about "patten"?
padrn or patn? "tn" as in "written".
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Very useful! I'm a portuguese speaker and this "RT" is a bit hard to speak.
Ooh thank you, what about making video about 'glattal' sound?
Good suggestion!
Am I correct in noticing there is a difference between the flapped t coming between vowels and the one between "r" and a vowel in terms of execution? While latter is approached downwards (as in party, starting) the former seems to be sounded with more of an upward brush on the same alveolar ridge (as in water, better). I presume it's down to where the tongue finds itself leading up to the flap t, though not sure how much of a difference it makes to the ear.
And this is why I love American pronunciation :) What about 'tomorrow'? I've heard that 't' pronounced as 'd' sometimes. (American movies, sitcoms, etc) For example: See you tomorrow. Rachel, could you please help me?
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