Glad you have drawn attention to this complex equation of balancing between technique and out and out strength, size, crazy power etc. Look at highly skilled lightweights such as Zac Purchase / Peter Haining etc. Pure magic. My first coaching advice to any young or old newby, is to forget power and strength issues completely for starters and firstly get the technical stroke and fluidity sorted…..then, later, worry about the very important issue of applying power, which is of course essential for competition.The Ergo has a lot to answer for in my view, as it tends to over-emphasise the power element to those not fortunate enough to be pointed in the right direction from the start in rowing / sculling.
Thanks for posting! I am also very curious about your thoughts on Karolien Florijn's technique. Superficially, it seems there are some similarities in her and Olli's body position.
You have mentioned Robbie Manson. He used to hammer the blades into the water, too. Mahe Drysdale also did it. It makes absolute sense not to hammer the blades into the water. But the fastest scullers ever did it. Do you see a difference between Oliver Zeidlers technique and the technique of the New Zealand guys?
Nice video, as always. Been following and learning a lot from your channel. Can you make a video comparing van Dorp and Zeidler in the recent Lucerne Cup II?
Giving up brute force for finesse cuts across many sports, like how to throw, or hit an object. But for many the first instinct is to go too hard. Thanks for this video, I’ve enjoyed watching Ziegler! A herniated disc is not fun! My boy’s high school boat now all have bad backs years later.
@@AramTraining also wanted to say, the analysis of why he is weak in bouncy water blew my mind, I always knew that crews that rowed on larger lakes seemed to do better than smaller, anecdotal information on my part from seeing my local rowing scene, but the crews on big water and larger waves always had cleaner placements than the crews that practiced on better water. Never saw the connection before with the deeper placement and stability requirement. You are an exceptional, exceptional coach, very impressive
I am confused after your video. I learned that the back need to be bend a little bit to have the body mass point on the same level. Now you say his back is too weak and that is the reason why Oliver is not good enough?
Hey! Just for your information: Olli Zeidler hammer his rowing so fast and hard in the olympic final, he literally smashed all other opponents for his olympic gold medal in Paris 2024!
5:50 In my senior mens boat, we have a call that is "row like a woman" meaning row properly, more raw power doesn't mean better output if you are doing it wrong
Hello, thanks for this video. really appreciated it. I know the Paris Olympics site in Vaires sur Marne, quite often very choppy water, way more than in Mantes la Jolie. No good news for Oliver Zeidler. I wish him all the best. Annette
Hi Aram, the best way to build up a solid corp strenght is to use Kettlebells (one arm swings, one arm snatches, windmill, turkish get up). But a proper technique is essential.
Glad you have drawn attention to this complex equation of balancing between technique and out and out strength, size, crazy power etc. Look at highly skilled lightweights such as Zac Purchase / Peter Haining etc. Pure magic. My first coaching advice to any young or old newby, is to forget power and strength issues completely for starters and firstly get the technical stroke and fluidity sorted…..then, later, worry about the very important issue of applying power, which is of course essential for competition.The Ergo has a lot to answer for in my view, as it tends to over-emphasise the power element to those not fortunate enough to be pointed in the right direction from the start in rowing / sculling.
Thanks for posting! I am also very curious about your thoughts on Karolien Florijn's technique. Superficially, it seems there are some similarities in her and Olli's body position.
Absolutely. That was my first impression as well
Do a video from the 4x Netherlands mens
Amazing analysis
You have mentioned Robbie Manson. He used to hammer the blades into the water, too. Mahe Drysdale also did it. It makes absolute sense not to hammer the blades into the water. But the fastest scullers ever did it. Do you see a difference between Oliver Zeidlers technique and the technique of the New Zealand guys?
Great analysis of Zeidler.
Nice video, as always. Been following and learning a lot from your channel.
Can you make a video comparing van Dorp and Zeidler in the recent Lucerne Cup II?
You are absolutely correct about the race course at Maintes La Jolie.
thanks for the analysis
Giving up brute force for finesse cuts across many sports, like how to throw, or hit an object. But for many the first instinct is to go too hard. Thanks for this video, I’ve enjoyed watching Ziegler! A herniated disc is not fun! My boy’s high school boat now all have bad backs years later.
another great video Aram, I teach the same thing and it's great to see someone else teach the same principles
Thank you mate
@@AramTraining also wanted to say, the analysis of why he is weak in bouncy water blew my mind, I always knew that crews that rowed on larger lakes seemed to do better than smaller, anecdotal information on my part from seeing my local rowing scene, but the crews on big water and larger waves always had cleaner placements than the crews that practiced on better water. Never saw the connection before with the deeper placement and stability requirement. You are an exceptional, exceptional coach, very impressive
Much appreciated! Took me some time to figure this out as well
Would be fun to watch if you compared Drysdale vs Zeidler, both really powerful.
HRR 2016 Drysdale vs. Obreno shows different techniques quite well.
Incredible video super nice love it, can you make a video analysis about the swiss lightweight 2x (schäuble/ahumada) would be super interesting
I was at the junior wordl championship in france there was so much wave
Can you please analyze the Gier brothers from the Atlanta games?
I am confused after your video. I learned that the back need to be bend a little bit to have the body mass point on the same level. Now you say his back is too weak and that is the reason why Oliver is not good enough?
It depends where it is bent, certainly not around the pelvis
As I said, Ollie has the potential of being the fastest of all time. His technique is horrible though.
More likely the guy who just beat him at the Worlds! If Robbie Manson came back 1x rather than 2x for Paris….maybe him?! !
20:15 all technical analysis aside LOOK AT THAT REACH at 1/2 slide.
Bro could get the handles outside the pins if he tried hard enough.
Excellent analysis
Hey! Just for your information: Olli Zeidler hammer his rowing so fast and hard in the olympic final, he literally smashed all other opponents for his olympic gold medal in Paris 2024!
5:50 In my senior mens boat, we have a call that is "row like a woman" meaning row properly, more raw power doesn't mean better output if you are doing it wrong
Crazy how he won against his competition in the Olympics. Not an expert - was his technique now better?
Hello, thanks for this video. really appreciated it.
I know the Paris Olympics site in Vaires sur Marne, quite often very choppy water, way more than in Mantes la Jolie. No good news for Oliver Zeidler. I wish him all the best.
Annette
Hi Aram, the best way to build up a solid corp strenght is to use Kettlebells (one arm swings, one arm snatches, windmill, turkish get up). But a proper technique is essential.
I’d love to see an analysis of the men’s quad or double from the Netherlands. They have been dominate over the past few seasons.