Maybe the best rendition this piano has in all UA-cam in terms of classical action/playing (what I'm looking for). I'm thinking to buy it, I'm a beginner/Inter tho. I will not explode the speakers at all.. So, what's your recomendation? thanks
Sorry about that! Only noticed after sending the footage to our editor. ): But thankfully, no. You can see the culprit at the end, and it's a demo bench we have kicking around. The KDP-120s isn't noisy. --Drew
We had an AP470 in-stock earlier last year! From what I can recall, it has a springier action and maayyybeee a brighter sound. Kawai includes their SK-EX rendering on this guy so you might have a preference for that. Otherwise, pretty standard and comparable feature set. Were you considering one or the other? --Drew, 👪🎹
Great video! Say I hope you read this…..I’m so torn between this Kawai KDP120 and the Roland RP501R!! I cannot find a Kawai to try out here locally in Minnesota, my local guitar center has the Roland though! I really liked the feel of the keys on the Roland , but I love the look of the Kawai itself. So very curious on what’s the better buy ? And if the key action of the Kawai is similar to Roland’s if not better? Hope to hear something from you!!
What about the KDP120's look do you prefer to the RP501R? They're both pretty similar in their traditional home console styles. If you liked the feel of the Roland, I would go with the Roland. That's one of the most important things in a piano. Personally, I'm a huuuge fan of their app too. Recording in practice logs is so nice for beginners, and I love how easy it is to use. I do like this Kawai too, but another thing to consider is availability. It's been tough for us to keep them in-stock lately. Let me know what you decide! (: --Drew, 👪🎹
@@familypianoco So I’ve never had the chance to even see the Kawai in person!! Just online videos. I’d prefer the Kawai because it comes in white. And I used to play a Kawai forte piano! Acoustic one! So that name just brings back memories and what not….biggest question is do the keys on the 120 feel they same as the Roland ?! Or similar at least!?
Hi Bobby - We don't carry new Korg digitals at Family Piano and I haven't tried this exact model elsewhere so unfortunately I can't give a real informed-by-experience opinion on it outside of listing spec differences. In general, Korgs tend to be quality, respected instruments so I'd expect both to be within the same basic ballpark of overall musical quality. As Salvador mentions (though I disagree with calling Korg trash, I find they generally veer above industry-average quality for the price), I do believe there's an advantage in realism Kawai and Yamaha gain from their extensive acoustic piano engineering experience vs. digital-only manufacturer's - I tend to find Kawai digitals to have the edge in overall action feel, pedal feel, and sound quality (They tend to sound significantly more "authentic" and less electronic to my ears with an overall more detailed and perceptive sense of touch) for comparably priced digitals to Korg while Korg generally wins out on number of sounds (LP380U has twice as many voices as KDP120), more sound customization options, and greater emphasis on more digital features while Kawai focuses on realism. Have you made your decision between the two yet? If so, I'm curious which you went for and how it's treating you! -Max
Hi, Do you know of any store in the US carrying the KDP120 in Satin black? It seems like it is nowhere to be found... I have ordered it somewhere but I am wondering when it'll come.
Really hoping you got it by now, Claire. We got three in last month, and they all went out within the same week. So you're not alone as far as wanting one. And unfortunately, we're not alone in our difficulty getting more in-stock. Supply and logistics for manufacturers has been a nightmare with. . . y'know, "C word." Sorry for the late reply! --Drew, 👪🎹
What do you suggest the piano has the best key action .. KDP120 or CLP725/735 ? Don't want the much heavy keys. As i can use VST's so onboard sounds do not matter much.
VSTs are very nice, but I'm gonna bet there will be times that you just want to turn on the instrument and play, without all the set-up time. That convenience is really handy, so I do recommend considering the onboard sounds, at least somewhat. In terms of actions, you're comparing two pianos at very different price points. the CLP-725 has wood and escapement, so yes, is superior to the KDP-120. That being said, the Kawai CA-49 is a much more equal comparison to the CLP725 and I think is better, in terms of action, sound, bluetooth, and more.
@@familypianoco Thanks for the reply .. I have decided to go with Roland HP704 with wooden keys that has the best keybed PHA 50 which roland uses in most expensive pianos. Also it sounded much clean and open and as good as Kawai CA49/CA59.
@@paragagarwal8718 i personally have the kdp120 and am extremely happy with how It sounds. I don’t know if I’d justify another thousand but that’s just me.
It's always funny to say this, but I really love/prefer Roland's native app, and that influences my answer a lot. I agree with Max that the Kawai is very good for a digital piano in this price range though. And I can't speak on the Yamaha much, unfortunately. Which were you leaning towards? --Drew, 👪
@@familypianoco This is like the biggest confusion ever. Mon and Thu - Kawai, Tue and Fri - Roland, Wed and Sat - Roland. Sundays I am tired. Okay, okay. I haven't had the chance to play the Roland or the YDP series. However, I am impressed by the Roland app (like you) from what I have seen on UA-cam. Also it has 300 odd native tones to play with. But what itches me is apparently Roland is not an acoustic piano maker (I might be wrong on this). Currently price wise in India, KDP 120 and RP 701 both are approximately $250-$300 costlier than the Yamaha YDP165. KDP120 felt very classy and I liked the sound. YDP165 also looks neat, cheaper but lacks bluetooth. So I am always back to square one when I try to zero on one. Phew.
No external recording on the KDP-120, unfortunately. You can capture MIDI if you hook it up, but to record sound, you'd need to record externally. --Drew, 👪🎹
Both actually have the same Responsive Hammer Compact II action. So in full transparency, noise should be about the same between the two. That said, I personally don't think either is noisy! Maybe because I've played distractingly noisy digitals, but these are acceptable in my opinion. Acoustic actions aren't totally noiseless either.
@@familypianoco Definitely not true. According to Kawai, this is a point they were working on: "This updated 2021 model features an improved version of the Responsive Hammer Compact II keyboard action, with improved cushioning material that helps to reduce action noise when keys are released. "
Hi Angelia & Argi, I was holding out on responding about key noise until I had a chance to try out the KDP-110 and KDP-120 back to back in the same location to listen specifically for key noise difference but I'd like to add on to my coworker's response. The KDP-110's action noise is by no means out of the ordinary compared to other digital pianos around the same price range, but there was definitely room for improvement and I'm glad Kawai recognized that. For me (someone fairly sensitive to key noise), I only really started to notice the KDP-110's key noise when playing under about 40% volume, which isn't much of an issue for me as I'd rarely ever play below that volume level but it will still make noise for others to hear when you play with headphones on. For the KDP-120 it was noticeable for me at about 30% volume, just a touch more noise than the RHCIII action found on the CN29/39, ES920, and DG30 which I don't notice key noise until under 20% volume. With the new improved RHCII action, the KDP-120 action is noticeably quieter than the great majority of digitals in the same price range but if you're looking for just about the quietest a plastic-keyed digital action can get, I'd look at the CN29/39. And if you want even quieter than that, the CA49/59's Grand Feel Compact action's noise is only noticeable to me at under 10% volume and is quieter than the vast majority of acoustic upright actions I've ever played on. Hope this helps! -Max
@@tentrade2 i once was in a pianostore and tried the casio ap 470 and the keyaction was really loud compared to arius 164. I dont say that you are wrong i just want to mention that not every piano of casio piano has a quiet action. the pxs 1000 has a different action than the ap 470.
What don't you like about it?? The RHCII isn't too offensive. Admittedly I personally prefer the RHIII, but I wouldn't say this one is bad. Thanks for the comment! --Drew, 👪🎹
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Wow you're such a versatile pianist!
Maybe the best rendition this piano has in all UA-cam in terms of classical action/playing (what I'm looking for). I'm thinking to buy it, I'm a beginner/Inter tho. I will not explode the speakers at all.. So, what's your recomendation? thanks
I notice the bench was quite squeaky. Was that the actual bench that comes with the KDP-120?
Sorry about that! Only noticed after sending the footage to our editor. ): But thankfully, no. You can see the culprit at the end, and it's a demo bench we have kicking around. The KDP-120s isn't noisy. --Drew
@@familypianoco Good to hear :)
How this piano compares with the casio AP 470?
We had an AP470 in-stock earlier last year! From what I can recall, it has a springier action and maayyybeee a brighter sound. Kawai includes their SK-EX rendering on this guy so you might have a preference for that. Otherwise, pretty standard and comparable feature set. Were you considering one or the other? --Drew, 👪🎹
@@familypianoco thanks for your opinion.
I already bought the Kawai.
@@joseazevedo5635 how do you like it?? I am thinking of buying it too, dude
Great video! Say I hope you read this…..I’m so torn between this Kawai KDP120 and the Roland RP501R!! I cannot find a Kawai to try out here locally in Minnesota, my local guitar center has the Roland though! I really liked the feel of the keys on the Roland , but I love the look of the Kawai itself. So very curious on what’s the better buy ? And if the key action of the Kawai is similar to Roland’s if not better? Hope to hear something from you!!
What about the KDP120's look do you prefer to the RP501R? They're both pretty similar in their traditional home console styles.
If you liked the feel of the Roland, I would go with the Roland. That's one of the most important things in a piano. Personally, I'm a huuuge fan of their app too. Recording in practice logs is so nice for beginners, and I love how easy it is to use.
I do like this Kawai too, but another thing to consider is availability. It's been tough for us to keep them in-stock lately.
Let me know what you decide! (:
--Drew, 👪🎹
@@familypianoco So I’ve never had the chance to even see the Kawai in person!! Just online videos. I’d prefer the Kawai because it comes in white. And I used to play a Kawai forte piano! Acoustic one! So that name just brings back memories and what not….biggest question is do the keys on the 120 feel they same as the Roland ?! Or similar at least!?
Can I ask how does this compare with KORG LP380U?
Korg is trash
I recommend Yamaha or Kawai digital pianos they actually know what they do since yamaha and kawai sell real grand or upright pianos
Hi Bobby - We don't carry new Korg digitals at Family Piano and I haven't tried this exact model elsewhere so unfortunately I can't give a real informed-by-experience opinion on it outside of listing spec differences. In general, Korgs tend to be quality, respected instruments so I'd expect both to be within the same basic ballpark of overall musical quality. As Salvador mentions (though I disagree with calling Korg trash, I find they generally veer above industry-average quality for the price), I do believe there's an advantage in realism Kawai and Yamaha gain from their extensive acoustic piano engineering experience vs. digital-only manufacturer's - I tend to find Kawai digitals to have the edge in overall action feel, pedal feel, and sound quality (They tend to sound significantly more "authentic" and less electronic to my ears with an overall more detailed and perceptive sense of touch) for comparably priced digitals to Korg while Korg generally wins out on number of sounds (LP380U has twice as many voices as KDP120), more sound customization options, and greater emphasis on more digital features while Kawai focuses on realism. Have you made your decision between the two yet? If so, I'm curious which you went for and how it's treating you! -Max
Hi, Do you know of any store in the US carrying the KDP120 in Satin black? It seems like it is nowhere to be found... I have ordered it somewhere but I am wondering when it'll come.
Really hoping you got it by now, Claire. We got three in last month, and they all went out within the same week. So you're not alone as far as wanting one. And unfortunately, we're not alone in our difficulty getting more in-stock. Supply and logistics for manufacturers has been a nightmare with. . . y'know, "C word." Sorry for the late reply! --Drew, 👪🎹
What do you suggest the piano has the best key action .. KDP120 or CLP725/735 ? Don't want the much heavy keys. As i can use VST's so onboard sounds do not matter much.
VSTs are very nice, but I'm gonna bet there will be times that you just want to turn on the instrument and play, without all the set-up time. That convenience is really handy, so I do recommend considering the onboard sounds, at least somewhat.
In terms of actions, you're comparing two pianos at very different price points. the CLP-725 has wood and escapement, so yes, is superior to the KDP-120. That being said, the Kawai CA-49 is a much more equal comparison to the CLP725 and I think is better, in terms of action, sound, bluetooth, and more.
@@familypianoco Thanks for the reply .. I have decided to go with Roland HP704 with wooden keys that has the best keybed PHA 50 which roland uses in most expensive pianos. Also it sounded much clean and open and as good as Kawai CA49/CA59.
@@paragagarwal8718 i personally have the kdp120 and am extremely happy with how It sounds. I don’t know if I’d justify another thousand but that’s just me.
Would you recommend this over YDP 164 or RP701?
It's always funny to say this, but I really love/prefer Roland's native app, and that influences my answer a lot. I agree with Max that the Kawai is very good for a digital piano in this price range though. And I can't speak on the Yamaha much, unfortunately. Which were you leaning towards?
--Drew, 👪
@@familypianoco This is like the biggest confusion ever. Mon and Thu - Kawai, Tue and Fri - Roland, Wed and Sat - Roland. Sundays I am tired. Okay, okay. I haven't had the chance to play the Roland or the YDP series. However, I am impressed by the Roland app (like you) from what I have seen on UA-cam. Also it has 300 odd native tones to play with. But what itches me is apparently Roland is not an acoustic piano maker (I might be wrong on this). Currently price wise in India, KDP 120 and RP 701 both are approximately $250-$300 costlier than the Yamaha YDP165. KDP120 felt very classy and I liked the sound. YDP165 also looks neat, cheaper but lacks bluetooth. So I am always back to square one when I try to zero on one. Phew.
How about the volume of this piano?
Pretty good and standard volume! Which is to say you can certainly upset your neighbors if you wanted to. --Drew, 👪🎹
What is the recording mics? Can you record via direct-out?
No external recording on the KDP-120, unfortunately. You can capture MIDI if you hook it up, but to record sound, you'd need to record externally. --Drew, 👪🎹
Some people complained about noisy keys on the KDP110 did you find this problem when playing the KDP120?
Both actually have the same Responsive Hammer Compact II action. So in full transparency, noise should be about the same between the two. That said, I personally don't think either is noisy! Maybe because I've played distractingly noisy digitals, but these are acceptable in my opinion. Acoustic actions aren't totally noiseless either.
@@familypianoco Definitely not true. According to Kawai, this is a point they were working on: "This updated 2021 model features an improved version of the Responsive Hammer Compact II keyboard action, with improved cushioning material that helps to reduce action noise when keys are released. "
Hi Angelia & Argi, I was holding out on responding about key noise until I had a chance to try out the KDP-110 and KDP-120 back to back in the same location to listen specifically for key noise difference but I'd like to add on to my coworker's response. The KDP-110's action noise is by no means out of the ordinary compared to other digital pianos around the same price range, but there was definitely room for improvement and I'm glad Kawai recognized that. For me (someone fairly sensitive to key noise), I only really started to notice the KDP-110's key noise when playing under about 40% volume, which isn't much of an issue for me as I'd rarely ever play below that volume level but it will still make noise for others to hear when you play with headphones on. For the KDP-120 it was noticeable for me at about 30% volume, just a touch more noise than the RHCIII action found on the CN29/39, ES920, and DG30 which I don't notice key noise until under 20% volume. With the new improved RHCII action, the KDP-120 action is noticeably quieter than the great majority of digitals in the same price range but if you're looking for just about the quietest a plastic-keyed digital action can get, I'd look at the CN29/39. And if you want even quieter than that, the CA49/59's Grand Feel Compact action's noise is only noticeable to me at under 10% volume and is quieter than the vast majority of acoustic upright actions I've ever played on. Hope this helps! -Max
@@familypianoco regarding key noise, Roland and Casio are the quietest ...PR 102 ,PX S1000 surprise ! 🤔😊
@@tentrade2 i once was in a pianostore and tried the casio ap 470 and the keyaction was really loud compared to arius 164. I dont say that you are wrong i just want to mention that not every piano of casio piano has a quiet action. the pxs 1000 has a different action than the ap 470.
Good sound, but bad keyboard
What don't you like about it?? The RHCII isn't too offensive. Admittedly I personally prefer the RHIII, but I wouldn't say this one is bad. Thanks for the comment! --Drew, 👪🎹
Sounds not good for me ty for video
Lol still GD for me..GD sound ..GD $$$$$ acceptable to me