Everything is compared to the outback for a reason. I put my behind in every competitor i could. The outback just flat out beats them all. Turning, coasting, cruising and paddling. The drive is absolutely a winner. The 2020 outback has the 180 drive with kick up turbo fins. It just cuts through the water like a knife. Yes it cost me a bit more. Its an investment in myself. If you're able to eat Ramen for a couple months, get one! If you can't wing the $3k for one, look into a compass. Gets you the 180 with turbo fins, adds up to a few hundred more than the vibe with drive, but absolutely worth it too.
Same reason they used to say "rides like a Cadillac!" Its their own fault they got rid of the ride quality that built their company into a legend... but that's a different deal. I agree completely on the Hobie. I am still on the fence but think I want a pedal yak next... I've had sit ins, sit on tops, and job boats and bass boats...and of course, I'd never be without at least one canoe... but after years of looking at all of them, I still think the Hobie would be my choice. Something to be said for going with the market king.
lmao at the 'rona fish name. Also that's a fascinating way of 'descending' fish, never seen it before. I don't have experience in the deepwater reefs in my east coast inshore terf and always assumed those deep fish were 'just keep em or they'll die anyway' (abiding regulations of course) . Awesome to see as a primarily C&R angler. I'm hoping someone will come up with an improved rudder, maybe just an extension from the bixpy mounting screws. And especially because the added weight would help the rudder drop under it's own weight, which I've been having trouble with. Fun video, subbed.
That looks so fun. I'm jealous. How secure do you feel in the vibe? I want one for the Saint johns in fl, but with the huge gators and it being really low to the water it makes me a little nervous.
Well kind because the vibe was going to be the Outback competition at a low price point ... still comparing side by side turning, stability, portability, handling all around ... we tested them for two months side by side
@@EdubOutdoors yea but you put turbo fins and upgraded the hobie. Have you done any upgrades to the shearwater? I don't own either but that hobie is likely a full grand more than the shearwater. Thats enough monetary difference that I could buy a really nice standard kayak to go with my maxed out shearwater.
Yeah there's a reason it's a 1000 bucks more better built Kayak... the Hobie will turn circles around the Shearwaters 125 with the same drive... the shearwaters is a nice Kayak but I'll take a Hobie anyday of the week... I've tested both in th Ocean,Rivers and lakes you get what you pay for
@@EdubOutdoors So where does the sheer water fail then when compared to the hobie? I know you mentioned turning radius in the video, but it would be nice to point out specifically where the $1000 value add is found? Is it that much faster, more stable, more comfortable, durability etc? While the Hobie may be better built if it doesn't outperform at a level that matches $1000 price difference then it's hard for some to justify the cost. I've seen reviews saying the shearwater rudder could be updated to make it steer better but have never driven either. I'm actually considering moving from my standard kayak into a pedal driven one which is why I'm asking. the hobie looks nice, but I'm also looking at the sheerwater, and old town pdls as well. The latter 2 both are much better price points than the hobie. I also saw a video of a hobie outback taking on water when hitting some surf areas which was odd, but I'm not expecting to really use in that type of setting.
great video. I was searching for a comparison between the Outback and Shearwater, and you guys had a perfect video. It was fun watching you guys slaying the fish. Blue lingcod was sooo cool looking.
Awesome fishing! Quick question, I will be a first time kayak buyer, hobies are idea but not so sure if I want to dump a ton of cash for it or jump on the vibe shearwater for a more affordable price range. I plan to fish offshore, will the vibe shearwater 125 fish comfortably and handle the tough ocean conditions?
@@EdubOutdoors yes sir I seen that monster !!! Keep up the awesome videos ! Thank you for your help. Heading out to Doran beach second week of December.
Edub Outdoors what are your honest impressions of the mirage drive insert strength? I also hear that you can buy Hobie drives and put them in the SW125 ... can you try that with your hobie drive? Also have you been able to stand up and cast in calm water yet? How does the SW compare to the Outback in stability, speed, other ? Thanks
Everything is compared to the outback for a reason. I put my behind in every competitor i could. The outback just flat out beats them all. Turning, coasting, cruising and paddling. The drive is absolutely a winner. The 2020 outback has the 180 drive with kick up turbo fins. It just cuts through the water like a knife. Yes it cost me a bit more. Its an investment in myself. If you're able to eat Ramen for a couple months, get one! If you can't wing the $3k for one, look into a compass. Gets you the 180 with turbo fins, adds up to a few hundred more than the vibe with drive, but absolutely worth it too.
Same reason they used to say "rides like a Cadillac!" Its their own fault they got rid of the ride quality that built their company into a legend... but that's a different deal. I agree completely on the Hobie.
I am still on the fence but think I want a pedal yak next... I've had sit ins, sit on tops, and job boats and bass boats...and of course, I'd never be without at least one canoe... but after years of looking at all of them, I still think the Hobie would be my choice. Something to be said for going with the market king.
Hobie definitely has a good reputation. I am currently in the market for my first fishing kayak and have narrowed it down to Hobie and Old Town.
i realize it's kind of randomly asking but do anyone know a good place to watch new series online?
You can use the Hobbie drive with the shearwater
Putting a 180 drive on a built Shearwater myself. I like the Shearwater as a platform more.
lmao at the 'rona fish name. Also that's a fascinating way of 'descending' fish, never seen it before. I don't have experience in the deepwater reefs in my east coast inshore terf and always assumed those deep fish were 'just keep em or they'll die anyway' (abiding regulations of course) . Awesome to see as a primarily C&R angler.
I'm hoping someone will come up with an improved rudder, maybe just an extension from the bixpy mounting screws. And especially because the added weight would help the rudder drop under it's own weight, which I've been having trouble with. Fun video, subbed.
Yes Oregon and Washington require a descending device... it's saves Rockfish
I'm working on that I have a couple of ideas lol
I always have my paddle in my lap for instant steering. Nothing works faster. I crack up when I see so many trying to upgrade the pedal kayak.
Nice catches. Big question. Brand of the descender that you are using? Albion later this week, health permitting.
I make my own from a fish griper
Great vid I want that kayak just hate no reverse and turning not great 🤦♂️ dont know what to get ,but like I said awesome vid🤙
So, basically, you want a jet boat...........that’s small like a kayak. They don’t make those yet
@@kalikasurf it's expensive but the Bixby is a kayak jet drive
@@kalikasurf um yes they do. Either a Hobie with the 360 drive, or a prop style pedal drive with instant reverse.
@@XploreAz wouldn’t instant reverse toss you out of a kayak?
@@kalikasurf huh? It’s pedal powered. You’d have to be the Hulk to produce enough power to throw you out of a kayak by pedaling.
Excellent video. Greetings from San Juan, Puerto Rico.
Looking good brother
That looks so fun. I'm jealous. How secure do you feel in the vibe? I want one for the Saint johns in fl, but with the huge gators and it being really low to the water it makes me a little nervous.
You guys got some exotic looking fish there. Great video and nice catch.
the difference is they are not the same in price point either. if it cost as much as a Hobie then youre comparing Apples to Apples
. good video still.
Well kind because the vibe was going to be the Outback competition at a low price point ... still comparing side by side turning, stability, portability, handling all around ... we tested them for two months side by side
And what’s the final verdict. Pros n cons
@@EdubOutdoors yea but you put turbo fins and upgraded the hobie. Have you done any upgrades to the shearwater? I don't own either but that hobie is likely a full grand more than the shearwater. Thats enough monetary difference that I could buy a really nice standard kayak to go with my maxed out shearwater.
Yeah there's a reason it's a 1000 bucks more better built Kayak... the Hobie will turn circles around the Shearwaters 125 with the same drive... the shearwaters is a nice Kayak but I'll take a Hobie anyday of the week...
I've tested both in th Ocean,Rivers and lakes you get what you pay for
@@EdubOutdoors So where does the sheer water fail then when compared to the hobie? I know you mentioned turning radius in the video, but it would be nice to point out specifically where the $1000 value add is found? Is it that much faster, more stable, more comfortable, durability etc? While the Hobie may be better built if it doesn't outperform at a level that matches $1000 price difference then it's hard for some to justify the cost. I've seen reviews saying the shearwater rudder could be updated to make it steer better but have never driven either. I'm actually considering moving from my standard kayak into a pedal driven one which is why I'm asking. the hobie looks nice, but I'm also looking at the sheerwater, and old town pdls as well. The latter 2 both are much better price points than the hobie. I also saw a video of a hobie outback taking on water when hitting some surf areas which was odd, but I'm not expecting to really use in that type of setting.
Oh nice I'm not sure where we are going next we are a couple hours from there
I’m sorry, but this video tells me absolutely nothing about “Vibe vs Hobie”
great video. I was searching for a comparison between the Outback and Shearwater, and you guys had a perfect video. It was fun watching you guys slaying the fish. Blue lingcod was sooo cool looking.
Nice Kayak, the shearwater, What is your maximum speed in the cruising effort?
About 2 1/2 to 3 mph easy
Hi friend! What a beautiful kayak that 125. It is on my wish list ... would you recommend it? is it good for you? thanks and greetings from Argentina😉
There is a guy on here that modded his rudder but extending the rope/ rudder attachment by any once and got sharper turns
Awesome fishing! Quick question, I will be a first time kayak buyer, hobies are idea but not so sure if I want to dump a ton of cash for it or jump on the vibe shearwater for a more affordable price range. I plan to fish offshore, will the vibe shearwater 125 fish comfortably and handle the tough ocean conditions?
You shouldnt be on a kayak in tough ocean conditions. Regardless of the brand.
Exactly. To many skills to learn before going their !
Get yourself a feel free lure 13.5 but be safe out there you never wanna be out in rough conditions
Nice catches
Can I ask where those caves were that u paddled through? Is that southern Cali?
Hasta la vista baby 👍
Wow...enjoy guys...😉😉
Edub Outdoors what pole and size are you using? Great video!
I have the video on my channel how to make it from a mono pod from Walmart
@@EdubOutdoors Thank you ! Also are you using the Phenix rod ? With a 4000 series reel
Yes Phenix M1 inshore 2oz 6oz 7'7" rod Diawa Saltist 3000 if you watch my Pacific Halibut video you can see what it can handle Monster Halibut...
@@EdubOutdoors yes sir I seen that monster !!! Keep up the awesome videos ! Thank you for your help. Heading out to Doran beach second week of December.
Where are you fishing? I have never seen fish that look like that. Is that in another country?
Northern California... Fort Bragg area
Hello, could you tell me the size of the kit x drive paddle box
Not sure what you want me to measure
@@EdubOutdoors pedals x-drive kit comes in a small box or is the package large?
It's comes in a box with the peddles arm off
I guess it's a medium sized box
@@EdubOutdoors The curious side of me is wondering why the hell that information is important to him 🤔 😂
I want to go lingcod fishing what were you using?
Hello! What minimum size should the blades have to paddle well on the SW125?
Great question !! I’m wondering WHERE is the “comparison” part of this video !!
Wow great video! Good fish! Where is that place at?
Northern Calif South of Fort Bragg
Fort Ross? timber cove? I'd like to know too. Nice Verm!!
Hi! Could someone tell me how tall is the Shearwater 125? Thank you so much!
Just the hull ?
@@EdubOutdoors
Yes, the courier requests it for transportation to Argentina
@@EdubOutdoors yes! The courier asks for it to pass the shipping budget
I’m hoping someone comes up with an extension or some other add on to the rudder. Increased surface area to decrease turning radius.
seems like it would be easy, since it has the removable portion for the bixpy, take that off and fabricate an add on larger piece.
Hobe now has their 360 drive system which turns on a dime. But it’s expensive and heavy
Do you think this is a good yak
Where can we Demo one the the SW125's ?
I'm not sure because they are trying to get them out still to everyone
Edub Outdoors what are your honest impressions of the mirage drive insert strength? I also hear that you can buy Hobie drives and put them in the SW125 ... can you try that with your hobie drive? Also have you been able to stand up and cast in calm water yet? How does the SW compare to the Outback in stability, speed, other ? Thanks
@@TheKokanut so far is been strong enough it's a good fit just don't like the plastic locking mechanism...
@@EdubOutdoors Ok seems like a solid kayak and so I am rolling the dice and bought one today. Thanks for your videos to help me decided.
Can the x drive go reverse?
No unless you have a Hobie drive with it
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Video is mis titled/ Should be.... "Look at me" Not a real comparison video. Just another ego driven omage to yourself. Wasted six minutes
Waisted a lot more commenting
Everything was great until you had to joke and called that China rockfish "corona" fish....
I liked it 😀. I found it to be a tasteful joke about modern history.
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