Ever heard "silence is violence"? You have to vocally and enthusiastically proclaim your allegiance or they will hound you. Sooner or later, staying quiet won't help you either.
She was playing with fire when she started trolling the blue hair people about pronouns in her Twitter bio. That's was a red flag there but kept playing with the fire. She had more to lose than them.
@@Arphemius the same thing happen to Chris pratt. The blue hair people attacked him for his religious beliefs. He let his co-stars Robert Downey Jr defend him. Instead of feeding the flames. Even Pedro Pascal defended Gina but she kept trolling until it upset someone at Disney.
@@Arphemius No that's bullshit, just don't use social media at all, don't even have an account. If they can't contact you or communicate with you, you are safe. There are literally plenty of actors and otehr people who avoid woke mobs this way. Gina should have been smart enough to not use social media.
The message of this video is bascially; "Instead of giving large, souless corporations staffed with people who probarly hate you and your money; how about you consume some of my art: something great or something made by somebody who appreciates your patronage?" Fair enough.
Hell most people can just dream or imagine worlds stories and characters of many shades without writing it down. While those with the ability to create will make these worlds a reality. Thus why I do like certain creators in comicsgate that put themselves out there to have people gamble on them to create works that don’t need the stagnation or corruption of the big publishers.
I agree that people should spend their time on other things. In my opinion, people should watch more classic films, especially films from the 30s, 40s, 50s, and 60s. Many people are aware of mainstream classic films, such as Casablanca and Gone with the Wind, but truth be told, it would take you several lifetimes to watch all of the classic films that exist.
I just watched all the Ghibli stuff in HBO Max and I’m enchanted by Miyazaki’s works in full. There is that one disappointment: Howl’s Moving Castle, but it’s good that I still watched it to see where Miyazaki lost his touch. And I finally watched Superman and Superman II, really good movies.
@@madcapmakov2 Howl's Moving Castle was much better as a book. There were elements of the movie that I liked, but the book blows the movie out of the water. So I'll give Studio Ghibli credit for introducing me to something I would likely not have stumbled across otherwise.
Cara Dune was one of the most popular characters from the show and Cara was the number one selling toy. Disney may not be hurting for money but they sure as hell don't want to maximize profits.
Since yall wanna nitpick, I'll clarify. At one point Cara Dune was the #1 selling Star Wars action figure. That is a fact. It took them a long time to come out with official Grogu merch. Now, go bother someone else.
@@morningstarxiv342 It's not a fact just because you say it is. Show me the source for your claims. I'm not saying Cara Dune didn't sell well (and both the Black Series and TVC was amazing figures), but it's far from being number 1. That's just the way it is.
You're probably right it doesn't matter, but at the very least I can stop supporting them and their hate. "It is not a man's duty, as a matter of course, to the eradication of any, even the most enormous wrong; he may still properly have other concerns to engage him; but it is his duty, at least, to wash his hands of it, and, if he gives it no thought longer, not to give it practically his support." -Henry David Thoreau
Man I loved Gina's role in Star Wars. She was one of the strongest female characters that didn't feel like she was just there because she was female. I don't think this would've happened in a Lucas led Lucasfilm.
Yea I never for a second bought into the *Mandalorian,* I knew *Disney* would eventually stick the knife into our backs, because they’re the *BIGGEST* SJW company on the planet. *Star* *Wars* is dead to me, I still haven’t watched ROS & I never will. I still can’t believe *Star* *Wars* is finished for me, 10 years ago I never would have thought I wouldn’t be watching movies & TV shows about it.
@@jackvancekirkland Amen to that, I've actually been telling this to a friend of mine. Life is too short of can be long with sorrow if your living on borrowed time based on a franchises or a thing. People need to connect with other people like minded. Move on and build things that will give you value in your life like wealth and relationships vs soulless consumerism.
@@dantasticmania8728 the distinction between building real (intergenerational) wealth and consumerist, hedonistic rat-race pursuit of $ is so important. Plant trees.
These corporations hope they can hold on long enough to permanently move the social/political needle to fit an ideology. They're change agents, and they know we are a populace that's addicted to media.
I never had a subscription to Disney+, so I can’t unsubscribe even if I wanted to. For me, I’m mostly disappointed with the films that go by the Star Wars name that is under Disney, though I do find the standalone films to be quite enjoyable for what they are. The six films by George Lucas is what I enjoy the most, I also enjoy the various other books, comics, games and things of that nature prior to Disney getting into the picture. I think the 2003 Clone Wars microseries is better than the 2008 series as it was concise in the story it was telling and didn’t go on too long as it left you wanting more, but happy with what it gave you. I also think the 2008 Clone Wars went on a bit too long. Perhaps it should have ended with 5 seasons and wrapped up its story more efficiently. Basically, when it comes to Star Wars, I’m all set in what I like with the franchise. The newer stuff doesn’t really entice me much, though I did think the Obi-Wan series initially sounded interesting where we see what he was doing on Tatooine watching over Luke, but then as quickly as it was announced to be happening it was reported that they were going to rewrite the series and are basically going to have Darth Vader and Obi-Wan fight, despite the series taking place between III & IV and it’s implied in the interaction between the two in IV that they haven’t seen each other since III. For those who enjoy Disney Wars, more power to them, but I’ve got the Star Wars entertainment I’m fine with.
Once Lucas sold then I knew the movies (and TV) went from being actual art that took commerce into account into being complete commerce and so I looked at them in that way. It's a project by project basis. Nothing they've done is a patch on what he did. At best they've done some decent material outside of their sequels but that's it. I hope the Obi-Wan series is good but it will have to be exceptional for me to look at it as part of the actual Lucas story. That said it just might be a very entertaining sidestep.
About time someone spoke the cold truth. I agree about branching out to find new material to enjoy. Though when something gains enough popularity to grab mainstream attention the woke crowd swoops in to either bend it to their will or remove it. Competition is their worst enemy after all. They know most people can't stand their crap.
So imagine when the Voice of Olf Josh Gad stars in the "Book of Mormon" a play that vulgarly degrades a religion its celebrated. But when Gina makes a comparison about the treatment of a religion she is fired?..... so Disney is ok with hating on Mormons but not Jews? Huh ok?
Unfortunately, you have not been attention to greater society for decades. Mormons are not technically Christians, but close enough for this discussion. Yes, it's fine to hate them. The ethnic group in question is a protected class. They most protected class including active censorship against them. When I heard about the content of the Tweet, I knew she was doomed. That's in part because Hollywood has more that nation per capita then you might expect. Iger is a member of that nation. /shrug
@@AM-os4ty beyond what you've said, Josh Gad's offensive rhetoric was not his own, it was just his part - BoM was Trey Parker and Matt Stone's creation IIRC- who Disney would never hire anyway.
Sure, Disney are a big cooperation, but so is Blizzard. There are still many who think that Blizzard isn't on life support cause of interest in their products are damn low. We won't see a sudden fall with these, only a slow grind to the bottom as the beams holding the structure up slowly are eaten up by termintes that the SJW;s are.
No doubt brands work. But if Toyota was bought buy people who obviously were making bad cars I would understand Toyota was no longer Toyota. No doubt there is something about brands but often an illusion
Well put. Reading the older literature like Howard and Lovecraft not following modern western comics, shows and movies has been a blessing. Manga and anime fill that void. Severing the emotional tie with a franchise is not maybe easy, but it is a necessary step in some cases.
Very interesting position. Part of me doesn't want to agree. Perhaps naively I want to believe fan action can still make a difference. But when your point on Disney as it is now not caring about the money... that hit home. It explains so many actions that othewise don't make sense. Where do we go from here though???
You can't kill Disney. But you can, trivially easily, make it possible for a small or indie artist to make a living. Taking your art and entertainment consumption dollar from Disney doesn't hurt them - well, I respect Austrian economics so I'd say it really does - but giving it to someone worthy makes all the difference in the world.
THE NBA and NFL(to a lesser degree) are hurting because people are not watching. I hope that people that cancel their Disney+ subscriptions do not turn around and see the next Marvel Movie. They need to refuse to give Disney any money.
The problem with fandoms is the investment by the fans. I know from experience (I was both a Star Wars and World of Warcraft fan). I finally hit my breaking point with TLJ in regards to Star Wars and BFA with World of Warcraft, with help mainly from this channel (which I appreciate immensely) I was able to see things for what they were. Once you're willing to let that investment go you can move on to other things, that's easier said than done in most cases though. There have been some videos on this channel which have opened my eyes to things I never considered, like all the points made in this particular video. Anyways, once I decided to try other things and earnestly give them a chance I found that there are so many other things out there which are so enjoyable, like all the content which SW and WoW is based on! This is only one aspect of life which this channel has helped me with and I am so glad I found it. Lots of wisdom to be found here, if you're new to the channel I suggest you go and watch all the stuff from the past few years, it definitely wont be time wasted!
This really is the only take I've seen on this matter that is any good. Star Wars fans really sound like battered wives at this point and the constant refrain of "Dave Feloni/Jon Favreau is going to save the franchise!" sounds a lot like "He said he'll change". I think you're right on the money but sadly I think that most people are perfectly happy to continue feeding the Disney machine because recieving a subpar product is easier than branching out and putting effort into finding something new. There's comfort in familiarity, even if it is mediocre.
People should just come to terms with that they hate you and stop giving them their money. I urge you to cancel your Disney&Netflix account no matter how many others do it, buy physical media if you like something from before.
Telling people that it won’t move the needle might be true, but telling people to stick to their principles is a much more powerful messages. If we all did that maybe those needles would be eventually moved... after all that’s why the Mandalorian is happening as it is, because we pushed back.
The Mandalorian is not happening because you pushed back. Disney barely cares unless you're a whale customer and even it's dicey. The Mandalorian is a fluke, a small project green lit when they were focused on the sequel trilogy. It is accidentally mediocre because the corporate people were not paying all that much attention. It is now what is keeping Star Wars alive. It will not be long before this is completely messed up too. The last Disney shareholder meeting involved essentially any number of spin off Star Wars TV series like the Mandalorian. As a child of serial TV shows from the 80's and early 90's, I'm sorry to say that all will do is kill off favorite characters one by one on lower budget. Find something else to love and you will be better off for it. You may even hasten Disney's demise in the process.
Mando is happening because they want to sell you trash product because Luke Skywalker is in it for a minute, they did it with TFA. nothing to do with fans, just standard pimping of nostalgia. so they capped off a mediocre SW rip off with a fan service scene? they did it in both TFA and Rogue One. it is because they know they can make mediocre content and sell it as long as they occasionally massage the fan ego.
Clearly the youtuber(up there) never read a history book or knows of are own history. Because if he did he would know that the needle can be moved. The British were that needle during the R-War and guess what we gave them the finger and we won against them and we got a country of are own. When the US was split in two between the North and South we sided with the North because we wanted slavery to end and we won against them and slavery came to an end it is not are fault that morons from the South forgot that fact. When Japan bombed us in WW2. They awakened a sleeping giant and that giant was the full might of the US and we defeated them because we knew if we did nothing then that would prove that we were a nation of weaklings and playboys. So standing up can move mountains and when there is more then enough people then they can change the world. As for that needle it would be moved it will be destroyed. V from V For Vendetta was right about his speech about how Governments should be afraid of their people and same thing goes for corps.
I read several of her postings and tweets. She was really asking for it, for a long time, and I don't really get it. Sure, maybe she is "a loudmouth" like many of us, but she kept saying provokative and even obviously crazy stuff, that was all over the place and quite clearly offending to several groups. I've seen people being calcelled for such a little misbehave, but this outcome was no way surprising.
She's a fighter and in that subculture it is common to taunt and show your toughness with tough words. Most propably she was influenced by her friends from that field. And maybe alcohol or something stronger was also in the mix.
@Jose Talks what part of it doesn't make any sense? I have better things to do than re-search tweets that I searched before to make my own judgement about them. All the information is out there. I am not your butler.
If Get Woke, Go Broke was real, Netflix should have gone bankrupt years ago. Yet my parents still pay for it. Conservatives are stagnant and complacent, and most of the controversy non-normie people see in the Internet entertainment news cycle doesn't have any tangible real-world impact.
Technically, Netflix isn't turning a profit based on their debt and cash burn. Yet they're still going strong because investors actually expect be able to successfully monetize their content at some point. Disney, by contrast, has zero trouble already monetizing its content. They'll take a loooong ass while to go broke. "Get woke, go broke" seems to be true for individual products- movies, games, and so forth. But it doesn't affect the overall corporation that much since it has so many assets and property.
My feed exploded with "Gina Carano fired!" this morning. You were the first one I watched, because I knew you'd have an interesting take on it. 100% agree with your conclusions. I think the hard part for much of the fandom is that Star Wars is in part replacing the role of Christianity and God in their lives. It's poor substitute, but it explains the intensity of their fandom. It also explains why what sounds like a thoroughly mediocre TV show appears, they'll take it. In terms of Luke returning, I feel like I am watching a horror movie play out in real life, but nobody else is hearing the ominous music. I give it one season before they mess up post RofTJ Luke too. They are not going to get the character right. As you mention somebody who hates the fandom is going to influence it, and it's done. The pain is back but maybe even 10X worse than Old Man Luke. Everyone is so much better off finding other art to love and maybe giving that God thing a whirl, too while they are at it.
Sure, "get woke go broke" is a cope, but while I appreciate your "whitepill" take, I'm not necessarily sure it is one. "The Mando" is whatever (first season was interesting, but I can't take "the danger of the Empire" seriously when the Remnant in the show is so pathetically useless now), and I never subscribed to Disney+ to begin with, but even if I get to walk out and enjoy better things, the "normies", my fellow brothers and sisters, will remain stuck in the metaphorical river of coom, shouting "red team" and "blue team" at each other like good NPCs, while the world falls apart around them. This isn't a whitepill because I'll potentially get to uplift my mind and soul a little, it's a blackpill because many of my people won't. As for Carano, I'm sad to see her go. I'd heard she was somewhat b a s e d and though I won't comment on the post that apparently got her fired, she seems to have been making wrongthinking posts on social media for a while now. Alas, as any influence that might have helped people start thinking, investigating facts, and questioning narratives would have been a good thing.
Get woke go broke works just fine at the everyday level. Some companies though are too big to fail - at least, for a mere ten years or so of mediocre management. Given a couple more decades of it and they will in fact go broke. The big publishing houses were unassailable until they disappeared. The big newspapers were the arbiters of reality until THEY disappeared. If you sit by the river long enough, the body of the woke will float by.
This is why I didn't watch Season 2 of Mandalorian and why I don't care about Star Wars anymore. For me, it's episode 1-6 and the Expanded Universe. I started doing exactly what you said without even knowing it. Reading old books, playing old games I've never played, and rewatching the movies that I love. Wise words and great advice.
You like Elric you should collaborate with Razorfist a UA-camr who loves Elric and the Shadow good old pulp heroes. Which he help me to fall back in love with pulp heroes like Conan the Rocketeer and the Spirit.
While I don’t completely agree with Dave suggestion that ‘get woke, go broke’, isn’t a thing (particularly with the pandemic), I totally support the idea that we don’t get so caught up in the wokeness of what we are being fed and re/discover the wealth of inspiring material out there.
I always go back to last year when "cancel netflix" trended on twitter for like a week because of that "Cuties" movie. Even politicians like Ted Cruz and Tulsi Gabbard chimed their 2 cents in. Then last month i looked at Netflixs numbers and they had a huge gain in subscriptions year over year from 2019, they are at over 200 million now. Internet boycotts don't work.
My friends with little kids are fans of Star Wars and Star Trek for that matter but they aren't going to cancel anything. They are too busy to keep up with the drama and they have Disney+ so the little ones can watch something like Moana. At best they will just stop watching the Star Wars portion of Disneys portfolio.
So imagine when the Voice of Olf Josh Gad stars in the "Book of Mormon" a play that vulgarly degrades a religion its celebrated. But when Gina makes a comparison about the treatment of a religion she is fired?..... so Disney is ok with hating on Mormons but not Jews? Huh ok?
I remember moving to the digimon, persona and smt series specifically because the pokemon franchise is stagnating. Now I am wondering when I will move on from smt digimon and persona.
@@FlameBringer84 it doesn’t matter if it’s unwanted -they will shove it down the throats of the populace, they have the cultural capital and resources to do so. Have to break out of the framework of liberalism and capitalism to truly fight against cultural marxists.
I've yet to see the "Go Broke" part be a pattern. Captain Marvel - meh movie that it was -, The Disney Star Wars Sequel Trilogy, Wonder Woman, Black Panther... All made A TON of money.
Yep loyal to a vice is incredibly accurate unfortunately. Even me I am begrudgingly hopeful for a turn for the better. The woke corporation effect is understated in the destruction of these great franchises. And comics have become subpar with the woke agendas
I can only agree, I am a book reader for nearly 40 years now, and since I got a kindle, I got to enjoy a lot of self-publishing authors. And the number of stories out there you will need a lifetime to get through all of them. Not all of them are good, but once in a while, I find an author who writes truly imaginative stories without presenting to "stupid protagonists" to ramp up the drama or artificial character motivations or... basically everything that makes modern movies crap in my opinion (with scarce exceptions). This is particularly true for sci-fi, the only sci-fi series, indeed contemporary series, is The Expanse, based on books and contains everything you otherwise can get in books. There are many post-apocalypse series, which could help you get over Walking Dead because they are just better. Things like "Under The Graveyard Sky" by John Ringo or "The New World" by John O' Brien and many many more. Those books contain rational human beings who are trying to survive without Plot-Armor. In space-opera, we have David Weber, Jack Campbell, Walter Jon Williams, and John Ringo. For example "March Upcountry" and following books in the series by John Ringo and David Weber are great. There is an alternative history series like "Belisarius series" by David Drake and Eric Flint. Or 1632 series by Eric Flint, this one alone one can spend years to get through all the books. And if you want more star wars, there are novels there, they are a lot better then the movies if it comes to stories and characters, hell every Star Wars fan should read fanfic series by Chuck Sonnenburg aka sfdebris, called Unity. It Is raw because not edited, but has a better story for Star Wars /Star Trek characters than anything I have ever seen in movies for both franchises. Long story short, there is no reason to worry about crap coming from Hollywood, better spend your money on books for authors who put all their soul all their intellect and imagination into their works. Instead of all those hacks who do not bother to close a milewide plot hole in a simple script, just because they think you are stupid and will gobble it all up, no matter how pathetic and lazy the creators are.
Luckily, video games continue to have a massive amount of creativity in the indie sphere. And it goes unmentioned because it is not really known, but video games eclipse movie ticket sales (from 2019) by about 10:1. Edit: From the same year, 2019, TV streaming service were around $100 billion; still not matching video game industry.
they'll care. the reason this is different is disney plus is the only thing keeping them afloat and mandalorian the only thing keeping star wars afloat. each subsequent star wars movie has done less and less with han solo being a complete failure. disney plus mandalorian is really the only thing keeping that site afloat being galaxy's edge actually cost disney enough money they let go of staff and are rebuilding it into something else. no, disney isn't the power house it once was, in part due to giving allegiances to china who spread the virus that killed their parks. it'll matter. one bit doesn't. but several over time? yeah... it matters. they can't even shell out original properties anymore and it's starting to hurt them. i imagine we will be here when disney actually falls and it'll be glorious. now if we can only watch the liberal government fall in the same manner...
100% agree. And besides, the writing for the Mandalorian has devolved to the level of a seven year old lining his action figures up and having the good guys knock down the bad guys. Disney has the formula down now. Jangling the Luke Skywalker character in front of their audience is just icing on the cake. The fanboys loyalty is now secure.
I stopped being a Star Wars fan once I realized they hate me. So I took your advice before you even gave it! I stopped giving money to Disney and I’ve pivoted to novels like yours, David. Cheers!
And I believe there are still great stories to be told. The ratio of writers in the world vs published authors is quite vast. They probably can’t get published because their product is quote on quote not “marketable”.
I think we're on the verge of independent filmmakers overshadowing these big corporations. Soon they will be rendered irrelevant because fan made and third party content will be BETTER than the studio productions because of the fan passion and artistic merit and more accessible production tools. There will of course be a lot of trash in there and corporate accessibility will always be easier to the normies but fanbases will develop for other content. I'm developing my own franchise using Unreal's Metahuman technology that will look competitive with any main stream film studio. We don't need the Disneys and Foxes and Warner Brothers of the world anymore for quality storytelling.
Awesome - I actually predicted that game engine technology would provide the future of affordable effects and assets a few years back, so it's good to see some people putting that to use! And almost 100% of the time a bad movie is bad because of its writing, which is the LEAST expensive part of the production.
One of the current best Star Wars things is the Movie Battles 2 mod for Jedi Academy that's been around for years. I also somehow enjoy playing and modding the new EAfront 2, but it was given away for free on epic, I bought it after support ended while on sale after having played free trials and enjoying. Wouldn't recommend people buy it. I generally just avoid buying any Star Wars things other than the rare Lego set these days, and I was one of those people that never bothered to go pay to see Rise of Skywalker after my family had a pretty vapid experience seeing the Last Jedi. My sister eventually scrolled past it on TV and just WTFed at the "Rey Skywalker" bit, which was entertaining to witness her reaction to :P
For the vast majority of people, books are not equivalent at all to visual storytelling. So you still don't really have a solution here until making high-tier movies becomes extremely cheap.
I... Agree completely... The only way to win is not to play... I am now glad I have my cousins Disney+ account (who is a complete normie, so she will never know about this) so I can watch most of the back catalog I missed as a child... Been looking for all new old stuff that I can't get enough of and it is great, from classics in Conan to exiled stuff like the Star Wars Legends books and stories, plus enjoying Cobra Kai like nobodies business. I am having the time of my life, while I see people on the other side completly distraught by all of this... I can't hold my need to say "I told you so!"
Get woke, go broke can be a real curse, but like many things, the bigger you are the less being stupid will effect you. Like with this Disney thing with Gina, losing 2-5% of the subscribers won't sink them, but it can cause massive damage to say, Marvel before Disney bought. Heck you could say that's why they had to sell out to Disney.
There's no way they're losing even 1% of their subscribers to this. They have almost 100 million subscribers and virtually none of them know or care about this. The ones that do will resub later in large numbers, I guarantee it. And even if they lost a large percentage it doesn't matter because many of the people in charge do not care about making money as much as they care about politics. The moral vision trumps the financial one every single time. Based on past fan engagement there's maybe, MAYBE 50,000 people who.would cancel over this. That's a lot, but it's actually only 0.05%.
@@DVSPress umm, I don't disagree with you. I was just trying to say that a huge company like Disney can get away with things like this, even if the backlash was my admittedly over estimated 2-5%. My family owns a small business and if we acted like Disney, well get woke go broke would be true for us. Since we aren't rich, the politics don't trump the financial. I'm not attacking you or your views, just commenting around the margins. Be safe, be healthy, God Bless Charles
I think this is a good point. After watching this I realized people keep saying "get woke go broke" but I don't see much of it. It would probably be better to just let star wars die alone and find new hobbies. Lovecraft could do with more fans (especially with everyone bitching about him) and Howard's works deserve more atttention in the public consciousness. And it does feel pointless to hate on Star Wars at this point anymore.
5:51 MOST important point in the whole video. Companies are becoming more absurd, more aggressive and of course more "woke" because why care about revenue when interest rates are super low, the central banks and governments bailing out everything under the sun, the ease at which to take on debt and, of course, the stock-buyback game where investors reward companies for getting into debt to buy back their own stock. We are far, far away from capitalism and are already living in a socialist society, which is why culture and aesthetics are going straight into the gutter. By removing consequences and rewarding failure on the financial level this spreads out into the cultural level, it's why covert left-wing films/books/art becomes overt. Government departments and local government have been like this for decades now, but this regressive attitude is spreading through the private sector too. Put it this way if we had actual capitalism there would be no Tesla, no mega companies, no Disney into gargantuan form, very little "SJW" media presence, a smaller oligarchy and a vastly more efficient government.
If we had actual capitalism you could start a competing firm to Twitter without having to have users mail you checks to buy your own servers because no one will do business with you.
@@DVSPress These years and this period will pass. Just because this setup (with companies and debt) is dominant and almost ubiquitous doesn't mean it will always be so, as you said. Once upon a time slavery was commonplace, so was European colonialism where we controlled most of the world... They all went away in the end, so I guess it's keeping the flame alive.
"Don't give money to people who hate you" has really been my focus the past few months, and I would say it is making me a little happier, more and more so as time goes on. I'm not giving money to Amazon or Target, I'm giving it to local businesses. I'm revisiting and loving old film and old books or experiencing some for the first time. When friends want to talk about the latest whatever on Netflix I just tell them I don't watch Netflix and move the conversation somewhere else. There's some confusion at first, but they're usually happy to talk about something else.
I basically left Star Wars fandom after I watched The Last Jedi, I did watch Solo with a friend and I finished watching Rebels (although I'm not sure if that was before or after The Last Jedi), so with the exception of the Star Wars RPG, I really don't care about Star Wars anymore (and Disney can't tell me how to run my Star Wars Campaigns). A similar thing has happened to me with Marvel, the MCU is pretty great, but after Endgame I have very little interest in continuing on with it, that could change. And since I get way more satisfaction out of creating my own worlds and writing my own stories, I figure that's what I should be focusing on rather than soulless corporate products.
I just take exception to the double standards considering two people working on the High Republic made anti-white statements but still get to keep their jobs.
While it’s a bummer that we all agree there’s a double standard between left and right. Gina tried to be cute IMO and fell face first into the blue hair’ trap. Anti-white is kinda meta compared to Holocaust comparisons which is an instant CANCELLATION
Well Disney might have a big wealth of IPs but they're not gonna pay their employees out of that, they need money after all, and with the pandemic shutting down most theaters, and most of Disney theme parks, they already had to lay-off a lot of staff with more lay-offs to come, so this is why the majority of Star Wars content is now out of hands of Kenedy, they spent 4 billion dollars on this IP and they haven't made it back yet in a long run, and they realized the only way to do so it thought content that respects fans and the IPs legacy
First good video about this subject I've seen. Most of the people making a scene about this will forget about it soon. Complete waste of energy for an actress nobody cared about until now and nobody will care about after this settles down.
I suggest Warhammer 40K novels for those done with Star Wars, it's crazy good.I'm 15 books into the Horus Heresy series (200 or so books in it) and I can't get enough (i'm doing the audiobook thing). The lore of of its universe is crazy rich. Here's a reading order wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Horus_Heresy_Series
More people need to hear this. While I don’t want to discourage those who are boycotting Disney (I certainly am), they need to understand that “Get Woke, Go Broke” doesn’t exactly work when you’re dealing with ideologues in a company the size of Disney who no longer acts in accordance with a profit motive.
You go see her comment and is something absolutely fair, those of a libertarian and conservative view point are being persecuted on social media as well anyone who puts logic first and question flawed narratives.
So stay off of social media as best you can. I am aware that is where the in crowd goes to hang out. Does anyone need it? I have never seen anyone say "I became a better person after I join Twitter". I have seen countless sentiments that amount to "Thank God they kicked me off of Twitter".
Yeah, to me The Force Awakens was a slap to the face. The amount of nostalgia couldn't deceive me. I saw it two times in theatre, once with friends, once with family and I regret it. :D I watched Rogue One from torrent, it was better but it didn't blow me away... then I stopped. I haven't seen the other movies, not even The Mandalorian. I still consider myself a Star Wars fan though. I just keep my focus on the pre-Disney era. Sometimes I watch some Fandom Menace videos because I still care about the future of the franchise, but I don't give money to Disney. I don't even have access to Disney+ in my region so... :D I purchased all "Legends" books that were published here, but sadly that's only one third off all books ever written and by the end of this year publishers won't be allowed to sell those books either... only the "new canon". It's so sad. It would have been better if Lucas never sold Star Wars to anyone. Even if his children wouldn't have carried the torch further, the franchise could have died with dignity.
I have really enjoyed the Mandolorian, and I appreciated her character a lot in the show. IMO it's been the only decent thing to come out of Disney-era star wars so far. I saw the critiques of her and... no, I don't think people should lose their jobs over having opinions and daring to express them, even if I disagree with those opinions. Having an unpopular opinion is not actually the same thing as actively harming people! I agree with you though, Disney is gonna do what they want regardless. A few cancelled subscriptions is irrelevant to them (though I'm not going to unsubscribe since there is a lot on there me and my kids enjoy and I'll probably still watch Mando too, because I really like the show 🤷♀️)
Let's also not forget that Disney has a ready made market in China, so just because Star Wars might not make money, they can just pander and cater content to the Chinese market. Great Video David, as always I appreciate the clear headed view, and the introspection ☺️
I'm so out of the loop, I saw Gina Carano and just had a vague recollection of her getting knocked out by Cyborg. xD I don't have Disney+ nor any interest in SW after The Force Awakens though.
The lesson of the day is If you get a high paying job just delete your social media
Ever heard "silence is violence"? You have to vocally and enthusiastically proclaim your allegiance or they will hound you. Sooner or later, staying quiet won't help you either.
She was playing with fire when she started trolling the blue hair people about pronouns in her Twitter bio. That's was a red flag there but kept playing with the fire. She had more to lose than them.
@@SteelSaiyan That's true, but the inferno keeps going even if you don't play with it.
@@Arphemius the same thing happen to Chris pratt. The blue hair people attacked him for his religious beliefs. He let his co-stars Robert Downey Jr defend him. Instead of feeding the flames. Even Pedro Pascal defended Gina but she kept trolling until it upset someone at Disney.
@@Arphemius No that's bullshit, just don't use social media at all, don't even have an account. If they can't contact you or communicate with you, you are safe. There are literally plenty of actors and otehr people who avoid woke mobs this way. Gina should have been smart enough to not use social media.
star wars has been a sinking ship for a while.
The ship has long since sunk. What's left are those clinging to pieces trying not to fall into the depths -_-
Yeah Star Wars was sinking, but I feel like the Mandaloria was an exception to that for a while.
The fandom menace threatens to jump ship every day. It gets old.
@@blackRXrider it already jumped ship. Only the sjw late arrivals remain, vainly going down with the ship.
The message of this video is bascially; "Instead of giving large, souless corporations staffed with people who probarly hate you and your money; how about you consume some of my art: something great or something made by somebody who appreciates your patronage?"
Fair enough.
I know right. Just honesty and transparency.
I'm making my own Star Wars now (doing it already). Not with blackjack and hookers, but with self-made art and role playing with my friends.
Right on!
Ehh, forget the blackjack!
Thought that may have been a Futurama reference, forgive me if I'm wrong ;D
Imagination!
Hell most people can just dream or imagine worlds stories and characters of many shades without writing it down. While those with the ability to create will make these worlds a reality. Thus why I do like certain creators in comicsgate that put themselves out there to have people gamble on them to create works that don’t need the stagnation or corruption of the big publishers.
The Sequels are corporate fan fiction. I will stick with what I enjoyed about Star Wars in the first place. OT/PT and EU.
I agree that people should spend their time on other things. In my opinion, people should watch more classic films, especially films from the 30s, 40s, 50s, and 60s. Many people are aware of mainstream classic films, such as Casablanca and Gone with the Wind, but truth be told, it would take you several lifetimes to watch all of the classic films that exist.
I just watched all the Ghibli stuff in HBO Max and I’m enchanted by Miyazaki’s works in full. There is that one disappointment: Howl’s Moving Castle, but it’s good that I still watched it to see where Miyazaki lost his touch.
And I finally watched Superman and Superman II, really good movies.
@@madcapmakov2 Howl's Moving Castle was much better as a book. There were elements of the movie that I liked, but the book blows the movie out of the water. So I'll give Studio Ghibli credit for introducing me to something I would likely not have stumbled across otherwise.
Caenef I heard it’s fits better in its original source material.
Cara Dune was one of the most popular characters from the show and Cara was the number one selling toy. Disney may not be hurting for money but they sure as hell don't want to maximize profits.
Number one selling toy? Lol, you're obviously not a toy collector.
Clearly Grogu is at the top sales as are lots of Mandalorian toys.
Since yall wanna nitpick, I'll clarify. At one point Cara Dune was the #1 selling Star Wars action figure. That is a fact. It took them a long time to come out with official Grogu merch. Now, go bother someone else.
@@morningstarxiv342 It's not a fact just because you say it is. Show me the source for your claims. I'm not saying Cara Dune didn't sell well (and both the Black Series and TVC was amazing figures), but it's far from being number 1. That's just the way it is.
@@morningstarxiv342 Thanks for the answer but not the attitude. It's hardly a nitpick but an genuine question.
You're probably right it doesn't matter, but at the very least I can stop supporting them and their hate.
"It is not a man's duty, as a matter of course, to the eradication of any, even the most enormous wrong; he may still properly have other concerns to engage him; but it is his duty, at least, to wash his hands of it, and, if he gives it no thought longer, not to give it practically his support."
-Henry David Thoreau
Yeah, I guess. He had momma bringing him clean laundry to his cabin in the woods. He may not be font of practical wisdom.
The Force Awakens is when I put it down.
This is the way
Read books 👍👍👍👍👍 and make models, make art, talk to like minded people
Man I loved Gina's role in Star Wars. She was one of the strongest female characters that didn't feel like she was just there because she was female.
I don't think this would've happened in a Lucas led Lucasfilm.
This!☝️👆
Really? Her whole purpose in the 1st season was to beat Mando in a 1 on 1 fight as a woman.
Yea I never for a second bought into the *Mandalorian,* I knew *Disney* would eventually stick the knife into our backs, because they’re the *BIGGEST* SJW company on the planet. *Star* *Wars* is dead to me, I still haven’t watched ROS & I never will.
I still can’t believe *Star* *Wars* is finished for me, 10 years ago I never would have thought I wouldn’t be watching movies & TV shows about it.
When Fandom consumerism replaces religious practice and people need their entertainment franchises to carry them through their whole lives... yikes.
@@jackvancekirkland Who the hell actually needs garbage like this in their lives?
@@jackvancekirkland Amen to that, I've actually been telling this to a friend of mine. Life is too short of can be long with sorrow if your living on borrowed time based on a franchises or a thing. People need to connect with other people like minded. Move on and build things that will give you value in your life like wealth and relationships vs soulless consumerism.
@@dantasticmania8728 the distinction between building real (intergenerational) wealth and consumerist, hedonistic rat-race pursuit of $ is so important. Plant trees.
These corporations hope they can hold on long enough to permanently move the social/political needle to fit an ideology. They're change agents, and they know we are a populace that's addicted to media.
I never had a subscription to Disney+, so I can’t unsubscribe even if I wanted to. For me, I’m mostly disappointed with the films that go by the Star Wars name that is under Disney, though I do find the standalone films to be quite enjoyable for what they are. The six films by George Lucas is what I enjoy the most, I also enjoy the various other books, comics, games and things of that nature prior to Disney getting into the picture. I think the 2003 Clone Wars microseries is better than the 2008 series as it was concise in the story it was telling and didn’t go on too long as it left you wanting more, but happy with what it gave you. I also think the 2008 Clone Wars went on a bit too long. Perhaps it should have ended with 5 seasons and wrapped up its story more efficiently. Basically, when it comes to Star Wars, I’m all set in what I like with the franchise. The newer stuff doesn’t really entice me much, though I did think the Obi-Wan series initially sounded interesting where we see what he was doing on Tatooine watching over Luke, but then as quickly as it was announced to be happening it was reported that they were going to rewrite the series and are basically going to have Darth Vader and Obi-Wan fight, despite the series taking place between III & IV and it’s implied in the interaction between the two in IV that they haven’t seen each other since III. For those who enjoy Disney Wars, more power to them, but I’ve got the Star Wars entertainment I’m fine with.
Well you gave up easily to begin with so you jumped off a while back.
Once Lucas sold then I knew the movies (and TV) went from being actual art that took commerce into account into being complete commerce and so I looked at them in that way. It's a project by project basis. Nothing they've done is a patch on what he did. At best they've done some decent material outside of their sequels but that's it. I hope the Obi-Wan series is good but it will have to be exceptional for me to look at it as part of the actual Lucas story. That said it just might be a very entertaining sidestep.
About time someone spoke the cold truth. I agree about branching out to find new material to enjoy. Though when something gains enough popularity to grab mainstream attention the woke crowd swoops in to either bend it to their will or remove it. Competition is their worst enemy after all. They know most people can't stand their crap.
I stopped being a fan of things long ago because i realized that being a fan more or less turns your brain into mush
I don't think this is case of being fan, but principle. Even thought they don't care.
Or being a fan of something that the filmmakers, creators or creative groups
Keeping to the creator’s works don’t give a fuck.
true
'Fan' is short for fanatic.
So imagine when the Voice of Olf Josh Gad stars in the "Book of Mormon" a play that vulgarly degrades a religion its celebrated. But when Gina makes a comparison about the treatment of a religion she is fired?..... so Disney is ok with hating on Mormons but not Jews? Huh ok?
Unfortunately, you have not been attention to greater society for decades. Mormons are not technically Christians, but close enough for this discussion. Yes, it's fine to hate them. The ethnic group in question is a protected class. They most protected class including active censorship against them. When I heard about the content of the Tweet, I knew she was doomed. That's in part because Hollywood has more that nation per capita then you might expect. Iger is a member of that nation. /shrug
@@AM-os4ty beyond what you've said, Josh Gad's offensive rhetoric was not his own, it was just his part - BoM was Trey Parker and Matt Stone's creation IIRC- who Disney would never hire anyway.
Sure, Disney are a big cooperation, but so is Blizzard. There are still many who think that Blizzard isn't on life support cause of interest in their products are damn low.
We won't see a sudden fall with these, only a slow grind to the bottom as the beams holding the structure up slowly are eaten up by termintes that the SJW;s are.
No doubt brands work. But if Toyota was bought buy people who obviously were making bad cars I would understand Toyota was no longer Toyota. No doubt there is something about brands but often an illusion
Well put. Reading the older literature like Howard and Lovecraft not following modern western comics, shows and movies has been a blessing. Manga and anime fill that void. Severing the emotional tie with a franchise is not maybe easy, but it is a necessary step in some cases.
Very interesting position. Part of me doesn't want to agree. Perhaps naively I want to believe fan action can still make a difference. But when your point on Disney as it is now not caring about the money... that hit home. It explains so many actions that othewise don't make sense.
Where do we go from here though???
You can't kill Disney. But you can, trivially easily, make it possible for a small or indie artist to make a living. Taking your art and entertainment consumption dollar from Disney doesn't hurt them - well, I respect Austrian economics so I'd say it really does - but giving it to someone worthy makes all the difference in the world.
@@WR3CK4G3firstandonly Yeah, I will be using the saved cash on kickstarter and indiegogo
THE NBA and NFL(to a lesser degree) are hurting because people are not watching. I hope that people that cancel their Disney+ subscriptions do not turn around and see the next Marvel Movie. They need to refuse to give Disney any money.
Haven't given Disney a single dollar since The Force Awakens, won't change now.
The ad that played before this video was for disney+. Oh the irony.
I'm pleased to write that I haven't given one penny to Disney since TLJ and I refuse to watch UA-cam videos that discuss The Mandelirium.
And I've embraced the Duneverse to scratch my sci-fi itch. I currently have twenty of the audiobooks on my phone. There are worlds beyond Star Wars.
The problem with fandoms is the investment by the fans. I know from experience (I was both a Star Wars and World of Warcraft fan). I finally hit my breaking point with TLJ in regards to Star Wars and BFA with World of Warcraft, with help mainly from this channel (which I appreciate immensely) I was able to see things for what they were. Once you're willing to let that investment go you can move on to other things, that's easier said than done in most cases though. There have been some videos on this channel which have opened my eyes to things I never considered, like all the points made in this particular video. Anyways, once I decided to try other things and earnestly give them a chance I found that there are so many other things out there which are so enjoyable, like all the content which SW and WoW is based on! This is only one aspect of life which this channel has helped me with and I am so glad I found it. Lots of wisdom to be found here, if you're new to the channel I suggest you go and watch all the stuff from the past few years, it definitely wont be time wasted!
This really is the only take I've seen on this matter that is any good. Star Wars fans really sound like battered wives at this point and the constant refrain of "Dave Feloni/Jon Favreau is going to save the franchise!" sounds a lot like "He said he'll change". I think you're right on the money but sadly I think that most people are perfectly happy to continue feeding the Disney machine because recieving a subpar product is easier than branching out and putting effort into finding something new. There's comfort in familiarity, even if it is mediocre.
People should just come to terms with that they hate you and stop giving them their money.
I urge you to cancel your Disney&Netflix account no matter how many others do it, buy physical media if you like something from before.
Netflix yes but Disney? So sorry.
Telling people that it won’t move the needle might be true, but telling people to stick to their principles is a much more powerful messages. If we all did that maybe those needles would be eventually moved... after all that’s why the Mandalorian is happening as it is, because we pushed back.
The Mandalorian is not happening because you pushed back. Disney barely cares unless you're a whale customer and even it's dicey. The Mandalorian is a fluke, a small project green lit when they were focused on the sequel trilogy. It is accidentally mediocre because the corporate people were not paying all that much attention. It is now what is keeping Star Wars alive. It will not be long before this is completely messed up too. The last Disney shareholder meeting involved essentially any number of spin off Star Wars TV series like the Mandalorian. As a child of serial TV shows from the 80's and early 90's, I'm sorry to say that all will do is kill off favorite characters one by one on lower budget. Find something else to love and you will be better off for it. You may even hasten Disney's demise in the process.
Mando is happening because they want to sell you trash product because Luke Skywalker is in it for a minute, they did it with TFA. nothing to do with fans, just standard pimping of nostalgia. so they capped off a mediocre SW rip off with a fan service scene? they did it in both TFA and Rogue One. it is because they know they can make mediocre content and sell it as long as they occasionally massage the fan ego.
Clearly the youtuber(up there) never read a history book or knows of are own history. Because if he did he would know that the needle can be moved.
The British were that needle during the R-War and guess what we gave them the finger and we won against them and we got a country of are own.
When the US was split in two between the North and South we sided with the North because we wanted slavery to end and we won against them and slavery came to an end it is not are fault that morons from the South forgot that fact.
When Japan bombed us in WW2. They awakened a sleeping giant and that giant was the full might of the US and we defeated them because we knew if we did nothing then that would prove that we were a nation of weaklings and playboys.
So standing up can move mountains and when there is more then enough people then they can change the world. As for that needle it would be moved it will be destroyed.
V from V For Vendetta was right about his speech about how Governments should be afraid of their people and same thing goes for corps.
I read her posting. She was fired for pointing out the left's game plan.
I read several of her postings and tweets. She was really asking for it, for a long time, and I don't really get it. Sure, maybe she is "a loudmouth" like many of us, but she kept saying provokative and even obviously crazy stuff, that was all over the place and quite clearly offending to several groups. I've seen people being calcelled for such a little misbehave, but this outcome was no way surprising.
@@juhonieminen4219 What kind of things did she say?
She's a fighter and in that subculture it is common to taunt and show your toughness with tough words. Most propably she was influenced by her friends from that field. And maybe alcohol or something stronger was also in the mix.
@Jose Talks what part of it doesn't make any sense?
I have better things to do than re-search tweets that I searched before to make my own judgement about them. All the information is out there. I am not your butler.
conspiracy theories are not "the lefts game plan"
If Get Woke, Go Broke was real, Netflix should have gone bankrupt years ago. Yet my parents still pay for it. Conservatives are stagnant and complacent, and most of the controversy non-normie people see in the Internet entertainment news cycle doesn't have any tangible real-world impact.
Big true true. Was thinking about that at the end of 2020 and how much that phrase meant squat.
Technically, Netflix isn't turning a profit based on their debt and cash burn. Yet they're still going strong because investors actually expect be able to successfully monetize their content at some point. Disney, by contrast, has zero trouble already monetizing its content. They'll take a loooong ass while to go broke. "Get woke, go broke" seems to be true for individual products- movies, games, and so forth. But it doesn't affect the overall corporation that much since it has so many assets and property.
My feed exploded with "Gina Carano fired!" this morning. You were the first one I watched, because I knew you'd have an interesting take on it. 100% agree with your conclusions. I think the hard part for much of the fandom is that Star Wars is in part replacing the role of Christianity and God in their lives. It's poor substitute, but it explains the intensity of their fandom. It also explains why what sounds like a thoroughly mediocre TV show appears, they'll take it. In terms of Luke returning, I feel like I am watching a horror movie play out in real life, but nobody else is hearing the ominous music. I give it one season before they mess up post RofTJ Luke too. They are not going to get the character right. As you mention somebody who hates the fandom is going to influence it, and it's done. The pain is back but maybe even 10X worse than Old Man Luke. Everyone is so much better off finding other art to love and maybe giving that God thing a whirl, too while they are at it.
Sure, "get woke go broke" is a cope, but while I appreciate your "whitepill" take, I'm not necessarily sure it is one. "The Mando" is whatever (first season was interesting, but I can't take "the danger of the Empire" seriously when the Remnant in the show is so pathetically useless now), and I never subscribed to Disney+ to begin with, but even if I get to walk out and enjoy better things, the "normies", my fellow brothers and sisters, will remain stuck in the metaphorical river of coom, shouting "red team" and "blue team" at each other like good NPCs, while the world falls apart around them. This isn't a whitepill because I'll potentially get to uplift my mind and soul a little, it's a blackpill because many of my people won't.
As for Carano, I'm sad to see her go. I'd heard she was somewhat b a s e d and though I won't comment on the post that apparently got her fired, she seems to have been making wrongthinking posts on social media for a while now. Alas, as any influence that might have helped people start thinking, investigating facts, and questioning narratives would have been a good thing.
Get woke go broke works just fine at the everyday level. Some companies though are too big to fail - at least, for a mere ten years or so of mediocre management. Given a couple more decades of it and they will in fact go broke. The big publishing houses were unassailable until they disappeared. The big newspapers were the arbiters of reality until THEY disappeared. If you sit by the river long enough, the body of the woke will float by.
@@WR3CK4G3firstandonly Thanks, man.
Definitely buying your creativity book today... thanks so much for your time and thoughtfulness
This is why I didn't watch Season 2 of Mandalorian and why I don't care about Star Wars anymore. For me, it's episode 1-6 and the Expanded Universe. I started doing exactly what you said without even knowing it. Reading old books, playing old games I've never played, and rewatching the movies that I love. Wise words and great advice.
You like Elric you should collaborate with Razorfist a UA-camr who loves Elric and the Shadow good old pulp heroes. Which he help me to fall back in love with pulp heroes like Conan the Rocketeer and the Spirit.
Let's be honest, David is basically a PG version of Razorfist.
@@dukeman8481 I think they would really balance each other out.
While I don’t completely agree with Dave suggestion that ‘get woke, go broke’, isn’t a thing (particularly with the pandemic), I totally support the idea that we don’t get so caught up in the wokeness of what we are being fed and re/discover the wealth of inspiring material out there.
Thanks, David!
Everybody buy his books
if you didn't have enough reasons to quit disney before...
I always go back to last year when "cancel netflix" trended on twitter for like a week because of that "Cuties" movie. Even politicians like Ted Cruz and Tulsi Gabbard chimed their 2 cents in. Then last month i looked at Netflixs numbers and they had a huge gain in subscriptions year over year from 2019, they are at over 200 million now.
Internet boycotts don't work.
My friends with little kids are fans of Star Wars and Star Trek for that matter but they aren't going to cancel anything. They are too busy to keep up with the drama and they have Disney+ so the little ones can watch something like Moana. At best they will just stop watching the Star Wars portion of Disneys portfolio.
Pretty true
Always sane & sober thoughtful videos. Thank you. And one helluva a writer. Have a great day David.
It doesn't matter because Star Wars itself doesnt matter anymore.
My mum got annoyed when Marie osmond got let go by that talk show she watched for being conservative
So imagine when the Voice of Olf Josh Gad stars in the "Book of Mormon" a play that vulgarly degrades a religion its celebrated. But when Gina makes a comparison about the treatment of a religion she is fired?..... so Disney is ok with hating on Mormons but not Jews? Huh ok?
@@edmundoalarcon2000 worlds gone nuts
I remember moving to the digimon, persona and smt series specifically because the pokemon franchise is stagnating.
Now I am wondering when I will move on from smt digimon and persona.
Or just watch some Dragonball(Z).
SMT is fantastic, I'll give the japanese one thing, they're not afraid to push the envelope
Silver Man Yes, their creative outreach is far out there than the West.
@@madcapmakov2 yep its why I invest my money in Japanese games and anime and just pirate western stuff till they get their shit in order
@@Silverman216 Mhm even I watched all their Miyazaki films on HBO Max. There's like one I dislike, but everything else I enjoyed.
This is SUCH an important message. Thanks for espousing this point of view!
I know it will not make any difference but I'm already boycotting Disney for years just because of principle.
Thank you for the book suggestions. 👍
“Get woke go broke” is a cope.
It's like "move the needle". It's stage 3 of Grief for the death of a beloved franchise: Bargaining.
Tell that to everything that's failed financially for going woke. The only people coping are lefties who can't accept that their swill is unwanted.
@@FlameBringer84 it doesn’t matter if it’s unwanted -they will shove it down the throats of the populace, they have the cultural capital and resources to do so. Have to break out of the framework of liberalism and capitalism to truly fight against cultural marxists.
@@Ethantk12 now if you want to see some hardcore copium addiction, reread your posts. Ironic, no?
I've yet to see the "Go Broke" part be a pattern. Captain Marvel - meh movie that it was -, The Disney Star Wars Sequel Trilogy, Wonder Woman, Black Panther... All made A TON of money.
"Don't give your money to people who hate you." ~Sage Wisdom
Yep loyal to a vice is incredibly accurate unfortunately. Even me I am begrudgingly hopeful for a turn for the better. The woke corporation effect is understated in the destruction of these great franchises. And comics have become subpar with the woke agendas
I can only agree, I am a book reader for nearly 40 years now, and since I got a kindle, I got to enjoy a lot of self-publishing authors. And the number of stories out there you will need a lifetime to get through all of them. Not all of them are good, but once in a while, I find an author who writes truly imaginative stories without presenting to "stupid protagonists" to ramp up the drama or artificial character motivations or... basically everything that makes modern movies crap in my opinion (with scarce exceptions). This is particularly true for sci-fi, the only sci-fi series, indeed contemporary series, is The Expanse, based on books and contains everything you otherwise can get in books.
There are many post-apocalypse series, which could help you get over Walking Dead because they are just better. Things like "Under The Graveyard Sky" by John Ringo or "The New World" by John O' Brien and many many more. Those books contain rational human beings who are trying to survive without Plot-Armor.
In space-opera, we have David Weber, Jack Campbell, Walter Jon Williams, and John Ringo. For example "March Upcountry" and following books in the series by John Ringo and David Weber are great.
There is an alternative history series like "Belisarius series" by David Drake and Eric Flint. Or 1632 series by Eric Flint, this one alone one can spend years to get through all the books.
And if you want more star wars, there are novels there, they are a lot better then the movies if it comes to stories and characters, hell every Star Wars fan should read fanfic series by Chuck Sonnenburg aka sfdebris, called Unity. It Is raw because not edited, but has a better story for Star Wars /Star Trek characters than anything I have ever seen in movies for both franchises.
Long story short, there is no reason to worry about crap coming from Hollywood, better spend your money on books for authors who put all their soul all their intellect and imagination into their works. Instead of all those hacks who do not bother to close a milewide plot hole in a simple script, just because they think you are stupid and will gobble it all up, no matter how pathetic and lazy the creators are.
The virgin fan vs The Chad Pop-Culture Connoisseur.
Luckily, video games continue to have a massive amount of creativity in the indie sphere. And it goes unmentioned because it is not really known, but video games eclipse movie ticket sales (from 2019) by about 10:1.
Edit: From the same year, 2019, TV streaming service were around $100 billion; still not matching video game industry.
Spot on! I just got "whitepilled".
My view of Go Woke Go Broke is that there's different types of it like Financial,Communal,&Canonical ect
They might not go broke right away but In the long term it does permanent damage
Only governmemt/military/intel agencies can operate at a financial loss, and the subsidiaries they sponsor too.
they'll care. the reason this is different is disney plus is the only thing keeping them afloat and mandalorian the only thing keeping star wars afloat. each subsequent star wars movie has done less and less with han solo being a complete failure.
disney plus mandalorian is really the only thing keeping that site afloat being galaxy's edge actually cost disney enough money they let go of staff and are rebuilding it into something else. no, disney isn't the power house it once was, in part due to giving allegiances to china who spread the virus that killed their parks.
it'll matter. one bit doesn't. but several over time? yeah... it matters.
they can't even shell out original properties anymore and it's starting to hurt them. i imagine we will be here when disney actually falls and it'll be glorious.
now if we can only watch the liberal government fall in the same manner...
100% agree. And besides, the writing for the Mandalorian has devolved to the level of a seven year old lining his action figures up and having the good guys knock down the bad guys. Disney has the formula down now. Jangling the Luke Skywalker character in front of their audience is just icing on the cake. The fanboys loyalty is now secure.
I stopped being a Star Wars fan once I realized they hate me. So I took your advice before you even gave it! I stopped giving money to Disney and I’ve pivoted to novels like yours, David. Cheers!
And I believe there are still great stories to be told. The ratio of writers in the world vs published authors is quite vast. They probably can’t get published because their product is quote on quote not “marketable”.
I think we're on the verge of independent filmmakers overshadowing these big corporations. Soon they will be rendered irrelevant because fan made and third party content will be BETTER than the studio productions because of the fan passion and artistic merit and more accessible production tools. There will of course be a lot of trash in there and corporate accessibility will always be easier to the normies but fanbases will develop for other content. I'm developing my own franchise using Unreal's Metahuman technology that will look competitive with any main stream film studio. We don't need the Disneys and Foxes and Warner Brothers of the world anymore for quality storytelling.
Awesome - I actually predicted that game engine technology would provide the future of affordable effects and assets a few years back, so it's good to see some people putting that to use!
And almost 100% of the time a bad movie is bad because of its writing, which is the LEAST expensive part of the production.
One of the current best Star Wars things is the Movie Battles 2 mod for Jedi Academy that's been around for years. I also somehow enjoy playing and modding the new EAfront 2, but it was given away for free on epic, I bought it after support ended while on sale after having played free trials and enjoying. Wouldn't recommend people buy it.
I generally just avoid buying any Star Wars things other than the rare Lego set these days, and I was one of those people that never bothered to go pay to see Rise of Skywalker after my family had a pretty vapid experience seeing the Last Jedi. My sister eventually scrolled past it on TV and just WTFed at the "Rey Skywalker" bit, which was entertaining to witness her reaction to :P
For the vast majority of people, books are not equivalent at all to visual storytelling. So you still don't really have a solution here until making high-tier movies becomes extremely cheap.
I... Agree completely... The only way to win is not to play... I am now glad I have my cousins Disney+ account (who is a complete normie, so she will never know about this) so I can watch most of the back catalog I missed as a child... Been looking for all new old stuff that I can't get enough of and it is great, from classics in Conan to exiled stuff like the Star Wars Legends books and stories, plus enjoying Cobra Kai like nobodies business. I am having the time of my life, while I see people on the other side completly distraught by all of this...
I can't hold my need to say "I told you so!"
Get woke, go broke can be a real curse, but like many things, the bigger you are the less being stupid will effect you. Like with this Disney thing with Gina, losing 2-5% of the subscribers won't sink them, but it can cause massive damage to say, Marvel before Disney bought. Heck you could say that's why they had to sell out to Disney.
There's no way they're losing even 1% of their subscribers to this. They have almost 100 million subscribers and virtually none of them know or care about this.
The ones that do will resub later in large numbers, I guarantee it.
And even if they lost a large percentage it doesn't matter because many of the people in charge do not care about making money as much as they care about politics. The moral vision trumps the financial one every single time.
Based on past fan engagement there's maybe, MAYBE 50,000 people who.would cancel over this. That's a lot, but it's actually only 0.05%.
@@DVSPress umm, I don't disagree with you. I was just trying to say that a huge company like Disney can get away with things like this, even if the backlash was my admittedly over estimated 2-5%. My family owns a small business and if we acted like Disney, well get woke go broke would be true for us. Since we aren't rich, the politics don't trump the financial. I'm not attacking you or your views, just commenting around the margins.
Be safe, be healthy, God Bless
Charles
In other words, mainstream culture is a tepid cesspool, so we should create our own culture. I couldn't agree more.
even IGN reported on this in true CNN fashion.
wonder who owns IGN
I think this is a good point. After watching this I realized people keep saying "get woke go broke" but I don't see much of it. It would probably be better to just let star wars die alone and find new hobbies. Lovecraft could do with more fans (especially with everyone bitching about him) and Howard's works deserve more atttention in the public consciousness. And it does feel pointless to hate on Star Wars at this point anymore.
5:51 MOST important point in the whole video. Companies are becoming more absurd, more aggressive and of course more "woke" because why care about revenue when interest rates are super low, the central banks and governments bailing out everything under the sun, the ease at which to take on debt and, of course, the stock-buyback game where investors reward companies for getting into debt to buy back their own stock.
We are far, far away from capitalism and are already living in a socialist society, which is why culture and aesthetics are going straight into the gutter. By removing consequences and rewarding failure on the financial level this spreads out into the cultural level, it's why covert left-wing films/books/art becomes overt. Government departments and local government have been like this for decades now, but this regressive attitude is spreading through the private sector too.
Put it this way if we had actual capitalism there would be no Tesla, no mega companies, no Disney into gargantuan form, very little "SJW" media presence, a smaller oligarchy and a vastly more efficient government.
If we had actual capitalism you could start a competing firm to Twitter without having to have users mail you checks to buy your own servers because no one will do business with you.
@@DVSPress These years and this period will pass. Just because this setup (with companies and debt) is dominant and almost ubiquitous doesn't mean it will always be so, as you said. Once upon a time slavery was commonplace, so was European colonialism where we controlled most of the world... They all went away in the end, so I guess it's keeping the flame alive.
Very insightful. I didn't think about it that way.
Im paraphrasing you but I like 'the walking away' stance you are promoting.
I love you perspectives, always great to listen to you :)
First logical thinking I've heard on social media, Thank you ;-). Basically get over it, and get on with it. Love it......
ThankYou i thought i was the only person that felt this way!! thank you for this breakdown! so true
"Don't give money to people who hate you" has really been my focus the past few months, and I would say it is making me a little happier, more and more so as time goes on. I'm not giving money to Amazon or Target, I'm giving it to local businesses. I'm revisiting and loving old film and old books or experiencing some for the first time. When friends want to talk about the latest whatever on Netflix I just tell them I don't watch Netflix and move the conversation somewhere else. There's some confusion at first, but they're usually happy to talk about something else.
Only saw Force Awakens. I went yep Disney screwed this up like I thought they would. Haven't watched anything Disney Star Wars since.
I basically left Star Wars fandom after I watched The Last Jedi, I did watch Solo with a friend and I finished watching Rebels (although I'm not sure if that was before or after The Last Jedi), so with the exception of the Star Wars RPG, I really don't care about Star Wars anymore (and Disney can't tell me how to run my Star Wars Campaigns). A similar thing has happened to me with Marvel, the MCU is pretty great, but after Endgame I have very little interest in continuing on with it, that could change. And since I get way more satisfaction out of creating my own worlds and writing my own stories, I figure that's what I should be focusing on rather than soulless corporate products.
Anime is my last bastion of modern visual media that is worth my time.
I just take exception to the double standards considering two people working on the High Republic made anti-white statements but still get to keep their jobs.
While it’s a bummer that we all agree there’s a double standard between left and right. Gina tried to be cute IMO and fell face first into the blue hair’ trap. Anti-white is kinda meta compared to Holocaust comparisons which is an instant CANCELLATION
@@captaincrunch1707 I don't think that was her point.
Jesus... I NEEDED that video. Thanks David!! ☺️☺️☺️
Well Disney might have a big wealth of IPs but they're not gonna pay their employees out of that, they need money after all, and with the pandemic shutting down most theaters, and most of Disney theme parks, they already had to lay-off a lot of staff with more lay-offs to come, so this is why the majority of Star Wars content is now out of hands of Kenedy, they spent 4 billion dollars on this IP and they haven't made it back yet in a long run, and they realized the only way to do so it thought content that respects fans and the IPs legacy
... and nothing of value was lost.
First good video about this subject I've seen. Most of the people making a scene about this will forget about it soon. Complete waste of energy for an actress nobody cared about until now and nobody will care about after this settles down.
Many more people be sailin' the high seas, M8-E. This be yet another reason, aye.
I suggest Warhammer 40K novels for those done with Star Wars, it's crazy good.I'm 15 books into the Horus Heresy series (200 or so books in it) and I can't get enough (i'm doing the audiobook thing). The lore of of its universe is crazy rich. Here's a reading order
wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Horus_Heresy_Series
Breaths the fresh air. I've been doing this since Bendis fracked Superman over a Barrel and ruined his family.
Oh boy, Bendis, The master of the nine panel tracing page.
I can’t agree more with you David.
i'm a Starwars EU fan, not a disney fan
the old republic is gonna be WokeWashed.
More people need to hear this. While I don’t want to discourage those who are boycotting Disney (I certainly am), they need to understand that “Get Woke, Go Broke” doesn’t exactly work when you’re dealing with ideologues in a company the size of Disney who no longer acts in accordance with a profit motive.
You go see her comment and is something absolutely fair, those of a libertarian and conservative view point are being persecuted on social media as well anyone who puts logic first and question flawed narratives.
So stay off of social media as best you can. I am aware that is where the in crowd goes to hang out. Does anyone need it? I have never seen anyone say "I became a better person after I join Twitter". I have seen countless sentiments that amount to "Thank God they kicked me off of Twitter".
Yeah, to me The Force Awakens was a slap to the face. The amount of nostalgia couldn't deceive me. I saw it two times in theatre, once with friends, once with family and I regret it. :D I watched Rogue One from torrent, it was better but it didn't blow me away... then I stopped. I haven't seen the other movies, not even The Mandalorian. I still consider myself a Star Wars fan though. I just keep my focus on the pre-Disney era. Sometimes I watch some Fandom Menace videos because I still care about the future of the franchise, but I don't give money to Disney. I don't even have access to Disney+ in my region so... :D I purchased all "Legends" books that were published here, but sadly that's only one third off all books ever written and by the end of this year publishers won't be allowed to sell those books either... only the "new canon". It's so sad. It would have been better if Lucas never sold Star Wars to anyone. Even if his children wouldn't have carried the torch further, the franchise could have died with dignity.
Engaging with current mainstream content is exhausting a lot of the time.
Whenever someone says "it doesn't matter" i reply "it matters to me". We don't have to change the world. We can at least try something
I have really enjoyed the Mandolorian, and I appreciated her character a lot in the show. IMO it's been the only decent thing to come out of Disney-era star wars so far. I saw the critiques of her and... no, I don't think people should lose their jobs over having opinions and daring to express them, even if I disagree with those opinions. Having an unpopular opinion is not actually the same thing as actively harming people! I agree with you though, Disney is gonna do what they want regardless. A few cancelled subscriptions is irrelevant to them (though I'm not going to unsubscribe since there is a lot on there me and my kids enjoy and I'll probably still watch Mando too, because I really like the show 🤷♀️)
If only there was a way to watch movies and tv shows , but not pay for them .... Hmmmmmm
You're still giving them your attention.
You didn't even mention Flash Gordon!!! there wouldn't be a Star Wars if it wasn't for Flash Gordon!!!
True
@@DVSPress I didn't mean to come off as rude if I did keep up the good work, Dave.
Let's also not forget that Disney has a ready made market in China, so just because Star Wars might not make money, they can just pander and cater content to the Chinese market.
Great Video David, as always I appreciate the clear headed view, and the introspection ☺️
I'm so out of the loop, I saw Gina Carano and just had a vague recollection of her getting knocked out by Cyborg. xD I don't have Disney+ nor any interest in SW after The Force Awakens though.