WHEN BIKERS FIGHT BACK | Crazy Motorcycle Moments Ep. #70

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  • @MotorcycleExtreme
    @MotorcycleExtreme  Місяць тому +7

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  • @jonathan1755
    @jonathan1755 4 місяці тому +702

    The biker at the gas station was overly dramatic seriously. It was obviously an accident and the guy immediately started apologizing, AND there was no damage to any of the vehicles.

    • @alancrisp1582
      @alancrisp1582 4 місяці тому +133

      🤯 It was a female rider. So what do you expect?. Drama queen !..

    • @kurtccocain
      @kurtccocain 4 місяці тому +41

      @@alancrisp1582 As a woman....... I give all my respect to you😂😂😂😂

    • @Fallenomen2010
      @Fallenomen2010 4 місяці тому +24

      ​@@alancrisp1582"that's a woman""

    • @jesusisgod11j
      @jesusisgod11j 4 місяці тому +19

      I mean yeah but also as a biker when someone hits your back tire, it would make me mad too but I totally agree with you bro

    • @Cameron_44
      @Cameron_44 4 місяці тому +24

      yeah I felt bad for that guy he apologized multiple times and the biker was being annoying I don't blame him for driving off

  • @SickSensei223
    @SickSensei223 4 місяці тому +330

    "You wanna catch one or what?"
    Proceeds to pull the fruitiest fighting moves ive ever seen 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Nicktheguy24
      @Nicktheguy24 4 місяці тому +6

      Don’t do drugs kids 😂

    • @JustinFronczek-e2l
      @JustinFronczek-e2l 3 місяці тому +1

      Asch Loch

    • @jackberdine
      @jackberdine 2 місяці тому +3

      How I fight in dreams

    • @Vespyr_
      @Vespyr_ 2 місяці тому

      I mean, to be fair, he kept him out lol.

    • @craigconcrete5936
      @craigconcrete5936 Місяць тому

      @@jackberdine lol I hate that! Trying to punch but it's like slow motion and zero power behind it! Almost like trying to punch underwater! 😂

  • @SnmSnm-o4b
    @SnmSnm-o4b 3 місяці тому +127

    5:20 I felt so bad for the guy he kept on saying am sorry

    • @zibear9213
      @zibear9213 2 місяці тому +6

      Imagine if he kept saying his insurance information instead

    • @Cookie-h2w
      @Cookie-h2w 2 місяці тому +4

      Fr

    • @aidentgaming9977
      @aidentgaming9977 2 місяці тому +20

      @@zibear9213 for what, there was no obvious damage what is she gonna say "he hurt me feeling"

    • @Silly_Nikko17
      @Silly_Nikko17 Місяць тому +5

      @@aidentgaming9977 LITERALLY. He BUMPED the tire. Didn't pop it, scratch anything, just a bump. Bikers do it to each other all the time even on purpose. It was the tiniest bump and she acted like he did it on purpose. Embarrassing for her.

    • @gregbester3855
      @gregbester3855 27 днів тому

      Yeah and Joe Pesci on the bike needs to chill.

  • @paciiiimijak
    @paciiiimijak 4 місяці тому +77

    I love the biker who went to defend the elderly man! Class act my guy

  • @_nyth
    @_nyth 3 місяці тому +113

    6:34 3 mexicans fighting in english 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @siliotee8153
      @siliotee8153 3 місяці тому +6

      I SAID THE SAME THING AHAHAAJAHAHAHA

    • @DIAMONDHANDPOPS
      @DIAMONDHANDPOPS 3 місяці тому +1

      it looks like the 5 or 105 freeway most likely LA

    • @cheliX2
      @cheliX2 3 місяці тому

      That's low-key racist 😂

    • @nerose274
      @nerose274 3 місяці тому

      Probably just chicanos.

    • @homecoming_maniac
      @homecoming_maniac 2 місяці тому +7

      @@cheliX2how

  • @jakelamotta2387
    @jakelamotta2387 3 місяці тому +100

    "WHEN BIKERS FIGHT BACK"
    *bikers proceed to start fights*🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @red3y3z
      @red3y3z 2 місяці тому +5

      shhhh...truth isn't what this channel is about

    • @BTSIPURPLEYOU-zi4mk
      @BTSIPURPLEYOU-zi4mk 2 місяці тому +1

      @@red3y3zwhat are you yapping about?

    • @ZepsyY22
      @ZepsyY22 2 місяці тому +3

      Looks like u really didnt watch the video since majority of riders actually defending themselfs from degenerates on the road that doesnt deserve a license 🤷

    • @alexbreen316
      @alexbreen316 Місяць тому

      @@ZepsyY22most of the videos were: driver makes non malicious mistake on the road, as everyone has at some point. Biker smashes mirror. Runs away

    • @itchiegames
      @itchiegames 27 днів тому +1

      yep, they start the fight, hit their mirror and then run away scared lol
      if only their fragile egos didnt make them so entitled maybe they wouldnt get themselves into these situations constantly

  • @alexquintana1031
    @alexquintana1031 2 місяці тому +45

    As a motorcyclists myself....smacking someone's mirror and then TAKING OFF is cowardly😂

    • @dummesschwein8727
      @dummesschwein8727 Місяць тому +3

      What ure gonna do?? Stay there and get ran by the car??

    • @duncan0842
      @duncan0842 Місяць тому

      @@dummesschwein8727 just not hit the mirror I guess

    • @ChinHobbyToys
      @ChinHobbyToys Місяць тому +1

      Most people that’s does are cowards… i ride too and I don’t agree with that action.. atleast be a real man.

  • @Ghosty0101
    @Ghosty0101 4 місяці тому +78

    The french man defending an old person is my favorite clip

    • @greenhorn6582
      @greenhorn6582 3 місяці тому +1

      Not French but Swizz ;)

    • @lemonrise2686
      @lemonrise2686 3 місяці тому +2

      @@greenhorn6582 no no it was french

  • @ju5572
    @ju5572 2 місяці тому +14

    15:00 "She almost knocked the biker out of his lane". Bro, he is driving on the SHOULDER, there is no lane

    • @BaderFPV
      @BaderFPV 2 місяці тому

      That’s what I’m saying bro

  • @noahborden9546
    @noahborden9546 4 місяці тому +22

    17:55 hungry hungry hippos

  • @andrewdinns1746
    @andrewdinns1746 3 місяці тому +38

    0:12 where is the rest of the clip? I don't believe this guy cut him off or else he would have shown it.

    • @craigconcrete5936
      @craigconcrete5936 Місяць тому +1

      I agree, I don't think he cut him off at all, there was still a couple / few car lengths in between them, biker boy is just a little bltch.

    • @itchiegames
      @itchiegames 27 днів тому +2

      @@craigconcrete5936 most of them are. fragile egos, entitlement and ignorance are a dangerous combo

  • @WALLZ-VR
    @WALLZ-VR 4 місяці тому +70

    13:50 the fire on his phone 💀

    • @zachberti4611
      @zachberti4611 2 місяці тому

      I came to address this as well. I absolutely love it.

    • @MarkieMark-vy7hg
      @MarkieMark-vy7hg 2 місяці тому +5

      Probably listening to a story. Often I find videos of books with backgrounds being something like that

    • @WALLZ-VR
      @WALLZ-VR 2 місяці тому +3

      @@MarkieMark-vy7hg fair enough.

    • @RobertBoston-n4d
      @RobertBoston-n4d 2 місяці тому

      I need to do that lol

    • @zachberti4611
      @zachberti4611 2 місяці тому +2

      @@MarkieMark-vy7hg I didn’t think about that.

  • @bryce8594
    @bryce8594 4 місяці тому +136

    half of these were like at least 50% the bikers fault tho... like the lady who almost hit the biker and then he destroyed her mirror. why was he in the road in the first place? she should have moved over but the biker wasnt even in a bike lane from what I could tell. and the bikers in this video shouldnt be cussing. everyone should be kind and courteous, even if the other person isnt. very few people in this video show love or kindness or patience. truly shows how wicked of a world we live in. not excluding myself in that either.

    • @Curlyreacts-o8v
      @Curlyreacts-o8v 3 місяці тому +1

      Not really it her fault he broken it for revenge

    • @Crazycoldlady
      @Crazycoldlady 2 місяці тому +1

      A bike or motorcycle?

    • @jonnykonig9802
      @jonnykonig9802 2 місяці тому

      @@Crazycoldladybiker= a human driving a motorcycle

    • @Crazycoldlady
      @Crazycoldlady 2 місяці тому +1

      @@jonnykonig9802 Ok then then what do you call people on Bikes 🚲

    • @jonnykonig9802
      @jonnykonig9802 2 місяці тому

      @@Crazycoldlady are you really asking me that question? Cyclists that simple.

  • @cody2470
    @cody2470 3 місяці тому +3

    That man helping the elderly person is a real one. We need more like him in this world.

    • @Designer-o3e
      @Designer-o3e 2 місяці тому +1

      nah we need to be like him

  • @TheBigChad
    @TheBigChad 4 місяці тому +15

    The French guy “trained in martial arts” was the most animated person I’ve seen

    • @YouTuber-el7dq
      @YouTuber-el7dq 3 місяці тому +3

      Did you mean the german guy around 4:07 ?

  • @Davaa-4u
    @Davaa-4u 2 місяці тому +10

    4:01 martrial art with that hand placement 😂😂I don’t think so 😂

    • @Zsocaq
      @Zsocaq 2 місяці тому

      Fr prob first time throwing up hands

  • @Spryrix
    @Spryrix 2 місяці тому +6

    just say sorry it catches everybody off guard and calms them down immediately which can be way funnier

    • @deadlyfarriswheel
      @deadlyfarriswheel 2 місяці тому +1

      Unless it's an accident then that could be seen as admiting you're in the wrong

  • @GreenDayDog2004
    @GreenDayDog2004 3 місяці тому +12

    4:53 I felt bad for this guy and there is no damage on the bike. The woman who is recording just got mad over something petty and couldn’t let a small thing slide, wasting the time of the police.

    • @mostpaloney5400
      @mostpaloney5400 2 місяці тому

      You know there's no damage how? If he hit the exhaust which is what it looks like he hit, he could've bent or snapped the exhaust and mounting bolts.

    • @Macenx8
      @Macenx8 Місяць тому

      No I think he hit the tire but what ever

  • @mothertheresa7597
    @mothertheresa7597 4 місяці тому +10

    I love it at the 10:50 mark! These two women come after the motorbike guy and the little girl in the car that caused the problem sits there and let's mommy and sister give it out. CLASSIC!!!

  • @thereactor6945
    @thereactor6945 4 місяці тому +54

    Chick at 5 min is completely unnecessary

  • @FoxieWild
    @FoxieWild 3 місяці тому +10

    I love the one with the bike and a guy

    • @calebs.8776
      @calebs.8776 3 місяці тому +3

      Oh yeah, I especially loved the one with the car on the road😮

    • @aidanlegg2863
      @aidanlegg2863 2 місяці тому +1

      The one where they were wearing a camera. Wooh. Never seen anything like that😮😮

    • @majorfender6054
      @majorfender6054 2 місяці тому

      i personally like the one with the street on the ground😮😮😮

  • @Dc-10_aviation961
    @Dc-10_aviation961 4 місяці тому +7

    22:28 that's the most chill biker I ever seen

  • @Kaisun542
    @Kaisun542 Місяць тому +4

    5:33 this biker is a Karen the guy said sorry. Plenty of times and he only hit her tire

  • @swaglabchannel
    @swaglabchannel 3 місяці тому +2

    Seeing motorcycle moments reminds us to keep a safe distance from other vehicles.

  • @hadesobsidian5231
    @hadesobsidian5231 2 місяці тому +4

    Everyone that drives a motorcycle in these videos is like the short guy on the Cleveland Show lol.

    • @itchiegames
      @itchiegames 27 днів тому

      fragile manchildren with awful ego problems is 99% of these clips

  • @keechariley1996
    @keechariley1996 3 місяці тому +6

    the first one was personal💀

  • @iHeartEdits31
    @iHeartEdits31 2 місяці тому +3

    2:54 nah bro he was in my personal bubble 😭

  • @Imalwaysconfused
    @Imalwaysconfused 3 місяці тому +12

    Those guys at 2:30
    Were they not in the road? Like given it was all the way on the right side but like you’re on the road

  • @Sentinel_bruv
    @Sentinel_bruv 2 місяці тому

    Bro having a phone playing a video of a fireplace on a bike is just the top way to make a ride comfy

  • @alexanderdoerr5570
    @alexanderdoerr5570 2 місяці тому +2

    Bro watches 2 anime shows and he "knows martial arts"

  • @mattsprayberry0
    @mattsprayberry0 4 місяці тому +11

    Something similar happened to me with a biker but he was the one that cut me off and got mad at me when I honked at him so he decided to take my mirror off But if you know anything about a 97 f250 You know , it doesn't have plastic mirrors on it, it has metal mirrors How do you say he hit it lost his balance and fell off his little bike And then got mad at me all over again

    • @c10chebby69
      @c10chebby69 Місяць тому +1

      I have a 96, mine were plastic. I took my mirror off in a fit of rage because my door wouldn’t open in the rain and I fell.
      7/10 don’t recommend hitting those mirrors even if they’re the plastic ones… they’re still heavy.

  • @costwalt
    @costwalt 20 днів тому

    That moment at 12:30 was actually kind of genuine because that guy seemed to be kind of stressed out in the situation and didn't really know what to do and he was just trying to get by everybody. At least he was calm and peaceful and communicative

  • @khbelived
    @khbelived 2 місяці тому +3

    12:19 this guy was the best one

  • @Fallenomen2010
    @Fallenomen2010 4 місяці тому +23

    I know people are gonna say that the lady on the green bike at the gas station was being overly dramatic (which she was) but a hit is still a hit. AND he openly admits to it saying "I only hit the tire."

    • @Orion7204-m5b
      @Orion7204-m5b 3 місяці тому +1

      Facts I was just gonna type that. Also, it probably seems more dramatic than it is because in this compilation we’ve seen a lot of videos that don’t contain footage of calling the cops.

    • @fredstone3048
      @fredstone3048 3 місяці тому +2

      No imo he obviously didn’t mean it and she is overacting absurdly, absolutely no need for cops

  • @diecastgoblin
    @diecastgoblin 2 місяці тому

    Bro was listening to a Carlos Santana solo. He was about everything in that moment.

  • @AmandaPentecost-j7x
    @AmandaPentecost-j7x 25 днів тому

    The ones where people get out and start fighting triggered trauma😭😭

  • @kellybalitzky5495
    @kellybalitzky5495 2 місяці тому +2

    17:44 white shirt girl be tryna fight for no reason 😂

  • @Luna-Starfrost
    @Luna-Starfrost 4 місяці тому +15

    Please don't be the Karen on the green bike. That was literally absolutely sad.

  • @yaboyfluid9124
    @yaboyfluid9124 2 місяці тому

    Dude curled back his hands like he was about to engage in fisticuffs
    “I’m trained in martial arts “ 😂

  • @DefiantComrade
    @DefiantComrade 16 днів тому

    Safe advice, always check your blind spot especially if you are merging or changing lanes.

  • @kingderek4078
    @kingderek4078 Місяць тому

    nobody who's trained in martial arts holds their hands up like that 😂😂😂

  • @mr1k666
    @mr1k666 29 днів тому +1

    @4:02 I’m trained in martial arts with a stance like that 😂😂😂

  • @K4L3O
    @K4L3O 3 місяці тому

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    • @MotorcycleExtreme
      @MotorcycleExtreme  3 місяці тому

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  • @M_onsoba
    @M_onsoba 3 місяці тому +1

    2:04 Bro's hands are discombobulated 🤣

  • @tap9558
    @tap9558 4 місяці тому +69

    Alot of bikers here are such snowflakes ngl

    • @tomatoboi1-inf
      @tomatoboi1-inf 3 місяці тому +1

      You are correct I counted probably 18 with in 6 minutes

    • @MrMan-ys2jq
      @MrMan-ys2jq 3 місяці тому +5

      Fr I think the woman at the gas station overreacted

  • @HACKER-gi8no
    @HACKER-gi8no Місяць тому

    This guy just knows any language.

  • @Acrillian
    @Acrillian 4 місяці тому +11

    12:38 the biker ran a red light

    • @Zsocaq
      @Zsocaq 2 місяці тому

      You did not saw the whole clip 💀👺🤡

    • @Acrillian
      @Acrillian 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Zsocaq I didnt see him slowing down and the light was still red before the video ended so I guess he passed through

  • @Yasminalwaysalone
    @Yasminalwaysalone 3 місяці тому

    Not my dutchies coming trough these comps love to hearing them come trough😂😂

  • @Chill_axz
    @Chill_axz 22 дні тому

    dang the girl got speechless at 1st clip

  • @dindunuffinwadiddido
    @dindunuffinwadiddido 9 днів тому

    And here we got the yomomma mafia... :P

  • @gensbxx4197
    @gensbxx4197 3 місяці тому +1

    That action when the witte caddy almost craxy hit the biker is in de Nederlands to den haag😂

  • @Burnt_Loaf.
    @Burnt_Loaf. Місяць тому

    18:58 He sounds so polite, dude.

  • @theLegoLightbulbGuy
    @theLegoLightbulbGuy 4 місяці тому

    He’s back!!!

  • @privateer0561
    @privateer0561 Місяць тому

    I just keep going. There's always someone crazier than you.

  • @Micamicamico
    @Micamicamico 2 місяці тому

    everyone who says "ooooo you’re so cool" sarcastically is just projecting so much jealousy

  • @coldnox5227
    @coldnox5227 2 місяці тому +1

    Knowing german at this Part is ja funny😂 4:27

  • @jmgas101
    @jmgas101 2 місяці тому +1

    at 4 minute mark when they guy say I know martial arts and then proceeds to but his hands up like A grade schooler kid would haha lol

  • @Voltage0_0
    @Voltage0_0 2 місяці тому

    I love these vids

  • @connorwilliams574
    @connorwilliams574 2 місяці тому +1

    Nobody throws hands anymore, fkn tragic

  • @scottspann8624
    @scottspann8624 3 місяці тому +1

    Mini bike rider is a baby 😂😂😂 come to NM and brake mirrors baby!

  • @kirathecreatorofthings
    @kirathecreatorofthings 3 місяці тому

    2nd guy looks like a mouth breather 😂

  • @кяуртіс
    @кяуртіс 2 місяці тому

    Always baffles me when people want to fight someone with essentially a bowling ball on their head.

  • @JeffreyMaboi
    @JeffreyMaboi 4 місяці тому +2

    I love ur video and frist one here

  • @michaeltheboatinglife9359
    @michaeltheboatinglife9359 4 місяці тому +5

    Never cross an angry black woman😂

    • @hitman_s1
      @hitman_s1 4 місяці тому +4

      They threw down like angry Harambe

    • @aliway4136
      @aliway4136 3 місяці тому

      Why? Are they somehow special?

  • @jaxson2788
    @jaxson2788 2 місяці тому

    26:30 bros built diffrent😂😂

  • @martinjason8466
    @martinjason8466 Місяць тому

    Living in a country where people don't respect the traffic rules and impede bikers, I'd rather stop and let them go

  • @ka-tray
    @ka-tray Місяць тому

    2:30 My country does that so many times, however, the bikers don't even care about how close it was lol

  • @adamg4754
    @adamg4754 2 місяці тому

    If you're gonna smash a mirror off you better be sure your motorcycle is fast enough to get away 😂

  • @harrison00xXx
    @harrison00xXx 2 місяці тому

    one thing i learned in those videos for sure. NEVER kick a mirror like this, with a high chance there is NO DAMAGE
    You need force from top to bottom or vice versa, like this you remove the mirror including ripped apart cables and reasonable damage.

  • @charlesbyrd3154
    @charlesbyrd3154 4 місяці тому +28

    This whole video has to be a joke. Most of it was the bikers fault or them saying someone did something without showing what they did. Just a bunch of over aggressive drama queens.

  • @tasheenaplayz5781
    @tasheenaplayz5781 2 місяці тому +1

    I feel bad for the gramps there nice and there face is like 🥺🥺🥺 I feel bad BUT PEOPLE WHO FEEL BAD FOR THE GRAMS LIKE THIS COMMENT

  • @Jappa-ez7iv
    @Jappa-ez7iv 3 місяці тому

    There are many people who think motorbikes are very loud and can give some people a headache

  • @nanotech2691
    @nanotech2691 Місяць тому

    As motorcyclist myself, the unfortunate reality is that people simply don't see bikers much of the time. They don't generally mean to pull out in front of bikes, they just aren't really looking for them and so bikers are often cut off. People are looking for other cars, trucks and other larger vehicles, not necessarily motorcycles.

  • @diecastgoblin
    @diecastgoblin 2 місяці тому

    6:52 the biker literally wasn't even in possession of that lane before that van went over the line lol.

  • @robertingham3525
    @robertingham3525 Місяць тому

    Calling the police over a hit tire lol

  • @mahtinown-eel
    @mahtinown-eel 2 місяці тому

    I’m sorry but British arguments/confrontations are just adorable

  • @kanaky-drift
    @kanaky-drift 4 місяці тому +1

    Hi great video as always big Big UP from France 🇨🇵👍👌💪😎🔥🔥🔥

  • @_Drxpy1
    @_Drxpy1 2 місяці тому

    I subbed

  • @12kinect
    @12kinect Місяць тому

    Is the bikers fighting back in the video with us?

  • @Black_Death861
    @Black_Death861 3 місяці тому

    I like it when most cyclists point out the camera they stop what they were doing 😂

  • @TEAM-YUGIOH-FRIENDS.X
    @TEAM-YUGIOH-FRIENDS.X 2 місяці тому

    5:20 the biker was too overdramatic, the guy was just apologizing

  • @GRDSHK
    @GRDSHK Місяць тому

    13:40 dude was so nice. I don’t know if I’d have had the patience after THAT close of a call. I might have had to just leave once I saw the driver.

    • @taylorbishop1298
      @taylorbishop1298 Місяць тому

      They shouldn’t be on the roads when it gets to that

  • @benja_304
    @benja_304 2 місяці тому

    honestly that old lady shouldn't be driving, it's incredibly unsafe

  • @zartic4life
    @zartic4life 4 місяці тому +1

    Anyone that tells you they're trained is lying. You would just find out.

  • @half876543210
    @half876543210 2 місяці тому

    The guy with the phone should’ve got his phone taken

  • @Ty-tan
    @Ty-tan 2 місяці тому

    Of course bikers are always the villains smh

  • @war_robots7911
    @war_robots7911 3 місяці тому +1

    You need to fight back

  • @ilikemitchhedberg
    @ilikemitchhedberg 2 місяці тому

    The sad truth is that many drivers believe that they own the road, and everyone else deserves to die. I would say that some drivers have a violent hatred toward bikers... but that would be misleading. Because many drivers hate everyone, including their fellow drivers.

  • @bornab53
    @bornab53 2 місяці тому

    8:57 her father must be proud

  • @ReDlyxxy
    @ReDlyxxy 3 місяці тому

    8:55 I love that moment

  • @Shadow_202.
    @Shadow_202. 3 місяці тому

    The germans was so funny iam german and this was funny😂

  • @FhillipQuelInting
    @FhillipQuelInting 9 днів тому

    BRO SOUND LIKE JOE IN FAMILY GUY

  • @FlorinEnache-y9w
    @FlorinEnache-y9w Місяць тому

    I must say that driving in the emergency lane, even on a motorbike is illegal. At minute 11

  • @dogesie
    @dogesie 21 день тому +2

    5:22 bro he apologized

  • @corrvptedintl.2025
    @corrvptedintl.2025 Місяць тому +1

    1:33 man get your Dr. Disrespect looking ahh out bro 😂😂😂
    27:11 On Lancaster Blvd, CA

  • @ChoppyLV
    @ChoppyLV Місяць тому

    Preety much of youtube channels promotes smashing mirrors. It would just make car drivers more upset and you will put into a risk another biker. Just accept the thing that you are invisible on the road and drive safely
    P.S. 12:16 this is the way you want to communicate with car driver. Lesson should be learned

  • @THEEshapesson
    @THEEshapesson 3 місяці тому

    The second video with the guy in the white car. He looks like the lead singer for korn, Jonathan Davis

  • @Konax_knp
    @Konax_knp 3 місяці тому

    "Faaaahr Weitaaaaa"

  • @samhyde2339
    @samhyde2339 2 місяці тому +1

    A lot of these incidents posted on youtube just look like motorcyclists being drama queens or looking for a fight. Honestly pathetic and gives all riders a bad reputation.