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I think Nobushige did do something to place fear in the mind of ieyasu due to this efforts during the winter campaign but as far as killing him goes. I don't know however I do think had Goto Mototsugu survived Domyoji with the Sanada reinforcements there to back him up, things could've been different. Even the Osaka general, Mori Katsunaga who did push back Honda Tadatomos army in order to make a charge at the Honjin of Ieyasu and this could've established a counter offense by the Osaka side. However it is interesting to note that this was the second time since Mikatagahara that ieyasus Uma jirushi had been brought by someone related to the Takeda. For me, I think Nobushige came close but not close enough. Dude, I love your videos Please keep going and may you cover the years leading up to Osaka no Eki
Definitely something I believe, Yukimura was that guy: capable, cunning, courageous, and could find you in the field. The momentum was with the tokugawas & they won the day however, yukimura took the field. Respectfully, -The Void
Tokugawa Iehiro, who is a politician in the CDP (Constitutional Democratic Party of Japan; Japan's largest opposition party), is one of the descendants of Tokugawa Ieyasu and his clan.
I think you should know there are no direct descendants from the lineage of Ieyasu or Hidetada after the death of the 7th Shogun, Ietsugu since he had no heir however yes, Iehiro is probably descanded from the Iesato line.
@@thedragonofechigo7878 you mean descended from the line of the second shogun, Hidetada. All the shoguns of the Tokugawa are Ieyasu’s descendants, it just depends on which sons line it is from. The 8th shogun, Yoshimune, was the direct descendant of Ieyasu’s tenth son and founder of the Kii branch of the Tokugawa.
@@RlRmPd Tokugawa Yoshimune is not a direct descendant of the main Shogunal house but rather from a branch of one of the Tokugawa Gosanke, the Kishu domain but he was not from the main Shogunal line established by ieyasu although he has relation to the Tokugawa name since he was a son of Tokugawa Mistutada, the 2nd lord of Kishu domain and son of Tokugawa Yorinobu, the founder of the Kii domain but this does not mean that he is direct heir to the position of Seii-taishogun. Some successive Shoguns from Yoshimune to Yoshinobu came from branch houses which is why these houses were established with the intended purpose of nominating an heir to the position of Tokugawa Shogun should there be no heir from the main Shogunal house. Iemochi, for example, was the 13th lord or Kishu domain, one of the Tokugawa Gosanke and not from the main Shogunal house since his father was a younger brother of ieyoshi, the 12th Shogun and cousin of iesada, the 13th Shogun. Iesada nominated Yoshitomi (Iemochi) as the 14th Shogun in 1858 after two groups comprising of the Hitotsubashi group such as Shimazu Nariakira and Tokugawa Nariaki that favored Yoshinobu and the Nanki group such as Ii Naosuke and others that favored Yoshitomi(Iemochi) proposed each of their heirs for succession although in the end Iesada demonstrated an exceptional initiative and announced the punishment on the daimyos of the Hitotsubashi group due to the internal turmoil caused by the issue of succession. This was the first and the last time Iesada took the initiative and showed action as a Shogun. The direct lineage of Hidetada died with Ietsugu who was a son of Ienobu which means that once Ietsugu died, the direct line of descendancy from the main Shogunal house from Hidetada was no more. Not all Shoguns are from the main Shogunal house in terms of lineage although they do hold relation of the Tokugawa and this is why branch houses were established should there be an issue of succession and this case, Ietsugu died young. Just because Yoshimune did have relations to the Tokugawa Shogunal family in terms of descendancy through Mistutada, it doesn't mean that he held any legitimate claim to the position of Seii-taishogun unless he was nominated which he was.
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James Clavell's novel and the mini-series based on it, "Shogun", introduced me to the events of Tokugawa Ieyasu and Miura Anjin. Their fictional counterparts are Yoshi Toranaga and John Blackthorne. In the mini-series, the late Mifune Toshiro was cast as Toranaga. His portrayal was cemented into my mind so much that whenever I think of Tokigawa, I cannot help but imagine Mifune. He was such a wonderful actor and had a certain charisma to him.
I just found out thta Mifune was responsible for some changes to the Japanese dialogue in the miniseries. It was supposedly too modern so it was his idea to alter it to be more 'archaic' to fit the setting of the late Sengoku Jidai.
I really, REALLY want to know about kabukimonos and Keiji Maeda. Mostly because almost all the major historic characters I've known thanks to "Hana no Keiji" ("Keiji il Magnifico" in Italia) an old manga from Tetsuo Hara, based around this famous kabukimono. Don't know how faithful is yet I loved it nonetheless. Also: love your videos. Very interesting, informative and well made.
Yeah, all later games and Anime portray Keji Maeda as one of the best warriors in Sengoku jidai, but in the history records there were not a lot of evidence that supports that high of a ranking, I think it's because of the Manga.
@@hong-enlin4651 He's a kind of controversial figure and, from what I understand, was much more important on a cultural/social level than in the military. Yet he partecipated in A LOT of battles and sieges.
I thought this was a theory, nothing more because even the records of the Edo Bakufu did confirm ieyasu died the following year in 1616 which is widely accepted to be the year he died but then again I never took this theory seriously that he did die at Osaka no Eki. Although, there is a chance that perhaps the Edo Bakufu made use of a Kagemusha(Ogasawara Hidemasa) in place of Ieyasu until enough time passed. The theory is that Goto Matabei killed Ieyasu as he was trying to run away from the battle in a Palanquin , retreating to Sakai. However at this time, Goto Matabei had already died at Domyoji due to his troops being crushed by Masamune so it could'nt have been possible. And Ogasawara Hidemasa died at Natsu no Jin along with his eldest son, Tadanaga. If ieyasu did die at Osaka no Eki and his grave is at Nanso-ji then whose remains are inside the great urn at Kunozan-tosho gu. As for ieyasu dying of sea bream, that theory doesn't hold up anymore. Yes for a long time, poisoning from fried sea bream was the most plausible cause of death. However, it was January 21 when Ieyasu ate fried sea bream for the evening meal, and it was on April 17 that he died. If the cause was food poisoning, too many days had passed. From the various symptoms, it is now considered that he might have died from stomach cancer or syphilis. By the way, it was at Tanaka-jo that he ate the problematic fried food. The end of the Toyotomi meant the Tokugawa would rule unopposed and to probably remove the "master and vassal" relationship between the two houses since ieyasu was an ally of the Toyotomi administration when Hideyoshi was still alive so this went a long way to relieve the Tokugawa of such an image since their power and wealth throughout the land was solidified by the time Osaka no Eki even began and before the Hoko-ji bell incident so perhaps such an image of being a "vassal " house of the Toyotomi would tarnish the legitimacy of the Tokugawa being the sole power in the country at the time.
If we had reliable personal records from people who met Ieyasu a before and after the battle of Osaka, it’s likely that the theory can be answered once and for all. But it would have to be someone who is neutral or less positively inclined to the Tokugawa so that’s a bit difficult.
@@RlRmPd I mean, Okubo Tadataka reported the attack by Sanada Nobushige on Ieyasus Honjin who really had no reason to smear the Tokugawa name ( and this wasn't even the time Pro-Tokugawa writers begin to compliment Anti-Tokugawa figures loyalty). Even Tadataka commented on the fact that Ieyasus life was in danger of ending at Domyoji when he mentioned Nobushiges effort during the closing stages of Osaka no Eki. So if there was a great amount of substance behind this theory then it would've been supported by such writers. I'd posit that Nobushige did nearly kill ieyasu but did not succeed which caused him to run and possibly a theory was evaluated from that incident and the fact that Tadataka had no reason to smear the Tokugawa or have neutrality proves this.
@@thedragonofechigo7878 when you consider that the Tokugawa would likely be looking for such material (which challenges their power and story) in public records, it’s a given that many would choose to not mention it or do it in a way that doesn’t provoke too much scrutiny. For those closer to the Tokugawa, it’s definitely just as much of an issue since with enemy clans, it’s understandable. As for Okubo, he did mention the attack, but never mentioned he died. Mentioning the attack and saying/implying Ieyasu’s survival is a testament to Ieyasu’s luck and skill, so it’s not a surprise it was left in. Pretty sure later generations hostile to the Tokugawa made up the story too, but from a realpolitik standpoint, you can see why the theory may or may not be true.
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You know that's an interesting thing because I have no idea why most japanese portraits before meiji restoration show almost all samurai as fat maybe someone knows why
Great colab! Great video - love the Interpreting of what might have really happened backed by knowledge of events and cultural/political trends of time
@@thedragonofechigo7878 Yup Bro In English Osaka no Eki is called Siege of Osaka. By the Way I am also a great fan of Lord Uesugi Kenshin also know as the Dragon of Ichigo. Peace✌️✌️
My thoughts 3. This one seems like the Tenkai myth, except is has less evidence to both back it up and contradict it. I think that said temple had a worship shrine of Mitsunari on the request of Satake Yoshinobu. 4. This one i do not know much about, however it seems quite unbelievable,
Toyotomi Hideyoshi discovered Ishida Mitsunari as a tea master, not as a soldier. I might believe half the fantasies regarding his political intrigues but not his capability to survive a bloodbath especially how prominent he is to his enemies.
Shogo, as someone who had read about Japan since childhood, I admire and love your videos. I have a mix of things you might choose to tell us about in one of your next videos: Hattori Hanzo (Ieyasu's ninja), the movie Shinobi no Mono (the first one and maybe the rest of them), and lastly about zaibatsus (do they still exist in Japan). Domo arigato!!!
Hey Shojo! Can you possibly make a video upon the subject of using other silverware (forks, spoons, ect) in Japan? Like reactions from certain people, if its okay at a restaurant or not allowed, all of that stuff, I think alot of people would like to see it!
Great video as always! I recall ともこ wanting to start a band with the rest of the team and I just came up with a fun name if that ever happens, "the shogonate" it's just something I found kinda funny but yeah
You should do a video about Yoshimitsu Ashikaga, the third shogun of the Muromachi period who almost usurped the Imperial Throne before mysteriously dying (some people says he was poisoned)
With respect, I believe ALL the therorys mentioned this & the previous video. I did NOT agree with the shogunate's feeling about mitsunari ishida however, with the exception of this plausibility: the friend obviously felt indebted to him and made the monument with considerations for his family & ishida personally. Consider this though, why would there be details about the man engaging in ritual suicide at the age of 74, Were it not actually true? I think his benefactor & friend that passed away ( kobuta) was in fact in his debt and provided sanctuary for him for as long as he needed (due to his coming to his defense and aid in maintaining his political position and yearly stipend) without disgrace or honor lost so, it would seem extremely plausible that this man would patron him and care for him until his death at which point ishida, after living a long and fruitful life, in his care, would have nothing to do but thereafter follow him into the Afterlife for: their fates where tied together & would have most likely lost a protection that kabota offered- I mean, nobody else owed him anything right? So, what else to do but follow your friend into the thereafter? Verily, -The Void
So in summary that Tokugawa Ieyasu was killed in Osaka and Akechi Mitsuhide survived and lived as monk advisor of the Tokugawa shogunat is pausible. While the other theories are very unlikely, especially the theory of Uesugi Kenshin was a woman.
Especially because he was adopted by Uesugi, like what's the point adopting a woman what poses as a man to be a person who will continue Uesugi clan. Like nobody will get a hint when she will give a birth to a child (like in a legendary story of female Pope Joan, or how she was called). That's the most insane theory ever. Kenshin was just infernile and, quite probably, a pederast. Shingen>Kenshin
So Tokugawa also didn't really fair that much better than CaoCao huh? Guess the way of Sun Tzu is really the ultimate way of winning by any means necessary but won't bod well for those who do it.
🇺🇸😕Actually, Tokugawa Ieyasu is my hero for ending the Sengoku Period and re-establishing Japan under a new Shogunate order by the Tokugawa Clan. And now you tell us that Ieyasu died right before he established his Tokugawa Shogunate order? These theories are controversial to me and I strongly want to believe that Tokugawa Ieyasu was still alive doing his battle duties, keeping his friendship with his English man William Adams and I want to believe that Ieyasu was still alive before his death in 1616. I still honor him and his Tokugawa Clan as Shoguns that helped keep Japan at peace and prosperity without civil wars and without European Colonial Threats by both Spaniards and Portuguese Traders, those two European traders were real A••holes for ruining Japan from 1543 to 1638! I’m glad the Tokugawa Shogunate had to isolate Japan from 1638 to 1854 so that Japan can preserve its cultural heritage and Japanese influences that we have today, and my tributes go to Tokugawa Ieyasu and his family as Shoguns who also protected the Japanese Imperial family before the Meiji Restoration. Tokugawa Ieyasu is my Japanese hero, forever! 🇺🇸☺️❤️⛩🇯🇵
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Didn't know he was killed
The Yukimura Killing Ieyasu Story is still my favorite!!
I think Nobushige did do something to place fear in the mind of ieyasu due to this efforts during the winter campaign but as far as killing him goes. I don't know however I do think had Goto Mototsugu survived Domyoji with the Sanada reinforcements there to back him up, things could've been different.
Even the Osaka general, Mori Katsunaga who did push back Honda Tadatomos army in order to make a charge at the Honjin of Ieyasu and this could've established a counter offense by the Osaka side.
However it is interesting to note that this was the second time since Mikatagahara that ieyasus Uma jirushi had been brought by someone related to the Takeda.
For me, I think Nobushige came close but not close enough.
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Definitely something I believe, Yukimura was that guy: capable, cunning, courageous, and could find you in the field. The momentum was with the tokugawas & they won the day however, yukimura took the field.
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Tokugawa Iehiro, who is a politician in the CDP (Constitutional Democratic Party of Japan; Japan's largest opposition party), is one of the descendants of Tokugawa Ieyasu and his clan.
Interesting how he's with the Democrats. Is the CDP like the US Democratic party?
I think you should know there are no direct descendants from the lineage of Ieyasu or Hidetada after the death of the 7th Shogun, Ietsugu since he had no heir however yes, Iehiro is probably descanded from the Iesato line.
@@thedragonofechigo7878 you mean descended from the line of the second shogun, Hidetada. All the shoguns of the Tokugawa are Ieyasu’s descendants, it just depends on which sons line it is from. The 8th shogun, Yoshimune, was the direct descendant of Ieyasu’s tenth son and founder of the Kii branch of the Tokugawa.
@@RlRmPd Tokugawa Yoshimune is not a direct descendant of the main Shogunal house but rather from a branch of one of the Tokugawa Gosanke, the Kishu domain but he was not from the main Shogunal line established by ieyasu although he has relation to the Tokugawa name since he was a son of Tokugawa Mistutada, the 2nd lord of Kishu domain and son of Tokugawa Yorinobu, the founder of the Kii domain but this does not mean that he is direct heir to the position of Seii-taishogun.
Some successive Shoguns from Yoshimune to Yoshinobu came from branch houses which is why these houses were established with the intended purpose of nominating an heir to the position of Tokugawa Shogun should there be no heir from the main Shogunal house. Iemochi, for example, was the 13th lord or Kishu domain, one of the Tokugawa Gosanke and not from the main Shogunal house since his father was a younger brother of ieyoshi, the 12th Shogun and cousin of iesada, the 13th Shogun.
Iesada nominated Yoshitomi (Iemochi) as the 14th Shogun in 1858 after two groups comprising of the Hitotsubashi group such as Shimazu Nariakira and Tokugawa Nariaki that favored Yoshinobu and the Nanki group such as Ii Naosuke and others that favored Yoshitomi(Iemochi) proposed each of their heirs for succession although in the end Iesada demonstrated an exceptional initiative and announced the punishment on the daimyos of the Hitotsubashi group due to the internal turmoil caused by the issue of succession.
This was the first and the last time Iesada took the initiative and showed action as a Shogun.
The direct lineage of Hidetada died with Ietsugu who was a son of Ienobu which means that once Ietsugu died, the direct line of descendancy from the main Shogunal house from Hidetada was no more.
Not all Shoguns are from the main Shogunal house in terms of lineage although they do hold relation of the Tokugawa and this is why branch houses were established should there be an issue of succession and this case, Ietsugu died young.
Just because Yoshimune did have relations to the Tokugawa Shogunal family in terms of descendancy through Mistutada, it doesn't mean that he held any legitimate claim to the position of Seii-taishogun unless he was nominated which he was.
@@outboundflight4455 partyers is little bit different all around the world, I mean in Russia so called liberals - is all who just against corruption , but they still for free gun markets ets... Japanese democratic party (imho) more like central with little bit of left in mind. I mean main difference between left and right (from my point of view) "should we have a army, or not...."
Ishida Mitsunari is an absolute tragedy in history. I wish but I wouldn’t believe he actually survived
Love your content Shogo! So cool to see The Shogunate as your collaborator for these past two videos. Hope to see greater and better things in the near future!
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James Clavell's novel and the mini-series based on it, "Shogun", introduced me to the events of Tokugawa Ieyasu and Miura Anjin. Their fictional counterparts are Yoshi Toranaga and John Blackthorne. In the mini-series, the late Mifune Toshiro was cast as Toranaga. His portrayal was cemented into my mind so much that whenever I think of Tokigawa, I cannot help but imagine Mifune. He was such a wonderful actor and had a certain charisma to him.
I just found out thta Mifune was responsible for some changes to the Japanese dialogue in the miniseries. It was supposedly too modern so it was his idea to alter it to be more 'archaic' to fit the setting of the late Sengoku Jidai.
I really, REALLY want to know about kabukimonos and Keiji Maeda.
Mostly because almost all the major historic characters I've known thanks to "Hana no Keiji" ("Keiji il Magnifico" in Italia) an old manga from Tetsuo Hara, based around this famous kabukimono.
Don't know how faithful is yet I loved it nonetheless.
Also: love your videos. Very interesting, informative and well made.
Yeah, all later games and Anime portray Keji Maeda as one of the best warriors in Sengoku jidai, but in the history records there were not a lot of evidence that supports that high of a ranking, I think it's because of the Manga.
@@hong-enlin4651 He's a kind of controversial figure and, from what I understand, was much more important on a cultural/social level than in the military. Yet he partecipated in A LOT of battles and sieges.
O_O thank you for the informational vids abt Japanese culture! And i love your channel so much?
I thought this was a theory, nothing more because even the records of the Edo Bakufu did confirm ieyasu died the following year in 1616 which is widely accepted to be the year he died but then again I never took this theory seriously that he did die at Osaka no Eki.
Although, there is a chance that perhaps the Edo Bakufu made use of a Kagemusha(Ogasawara Hidemasa) in place of Ieyasu until enough time passed. The theory is that Goto Matabei killed Ieyasu as he was trying to run away from the battle in a Palanquin , retreating to Sakai. However at this time, Goto Matabei had already died at Domyoji due to his troops being crushed by Masamune so it could'nt have been possible.
And Ogasawara Hidemasa died at Natsu no Jin along with his eldest son, Tadanaga.
If ieyasu did die at Osaka no Eki and his grave is at Nanso-ji then whose remains are inside the great urn at Kunozan-tosho gu.
As for ieyasu dying of sea bream, that theory doesn't hold up anymore. Yes for a long time, poisoning from fried sea bream was the most plausible cause of death. However, it was January 21 when Ieyasu ate fried sea bream for the evening meal, and it was on April 17 that he died. If the cause was food poisoning, too many days had passed. From the various symptoms, it is now considered that he might have died from stomach cancer or syphilis. By the way, it was at Tanaka-jo that he ate the problematic fried food.
The end of the Toyotomi meant the Tokugawa would rule unopposed and to probably remove the "master and vassal" relationship between the two houses since ieyasu was an ally of the Toyotomi administration when Hideyoshi was still alive so this went a long way to relieve the Tokugawa of such an image since their power and wealth throughout the land was solidified by the time Osaka no Eki even began and before the Hoko-ji bell incident so perhaps such an image of being a "vassal " house of the Toyotomi would tarnish the legitimacy of the Tokugawa being the sole power in the country at the time.
If we had reliable personal records from people who met Ieyasu a before and after the battle of Osaka, it’s likely that the theory can be answered once and for all. But it would have to be someone who is neutral or less positively inclined to the Tokugawa so that’s a bit difficult.
@@RlRmPd I mean, Okubo Tadataka reported the attack by Sanada Nobushige on Ieyasus Honjin who really had no reason to smear the Tokugawa name ( and this wasn't even the time Pro-Tokugawa writers begin to compliment Anti-Tokugawa figures loyalty).
Even Tadataka commented on the fact that Ieyasus life was in danger of ending at Domyoji when he mentioned Nobushiges effort during the closing stages of Osaka no Eki.
So if there was a great amount of substance behind this theory then it would've been supported by such writers.
I'd posit that Nobushige did nearly kill ieyasu but did not succeed which caused him to run and possibly a theory was evaluated from that incident and the fact that Tadataka had no reason to smear the Tokugawa or have neutrality proves this.
@@thedragonofechigo7878 when you consider that the Tokugawa would likely be looking for such material (which challenges their power and story) in public records, it’s a given that many would choose to not mention it or do it in a way that doesn’t provoke too much scrutiny. For those closer to the Tokugawa, it’s definitely just as much of an issue since with enemy clans, it’s understandable. As for Okubo, he did mention the attack, but never mentioned he died. Mentioning the attack and saying/implying Ieyasu’s survival is a testament to Ieyasu’s luck and skill, so it’s not a surprise it was left in.
Pretty sure later generations hostile to the Tokugawa made up the story too, but from a realpolitik standpoint, you can see why the theory may or may not be true.
There was another theory Ieyasu already died in the battle of Mikatagahara, how about that? 😉
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Very informative!
I love it!
Keep safe Shogo!🌠
Finally it’s about time you guys got together on reviewing history .
If the battle didn't kill Tokugawa Ieyasu his morbid obesity would if his portrait is anything to go by.
You know that's an interesting thing because I have no idea why most japanese portraits before meiji restoration show almost all samurai as fat maybe someone knows why
Oh man, perfect collab. Please do more together
Great colab! Great video - love the Interpreting of what might have really happened backed by knowledge of events and cultural/political trends of time
Happy to see you two having fun
This series has been super interesting! It'd be cool to see more japanese history collabs with nate.
Really interesting, thanks so much.
This was interesting. Thank you shogo=San
Awesome Video Sir but the title is "Siege of Osaka" not Battle of Osaka.
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Osaka no Eki if you want to be specific although Natsu no Jin for the summer Siege.
@@thedragonofechigo7878 Yup Bro In English Osaka no Eki is called Siege of Osaka.
By the Way I am also a great fan of Lord Uesugi Kenshin also know as the Dragon of Ichigo.
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Thanks again, Shogo, for an interesting video. :)
👍🏾👍🏾 Thank you for part two. Miyamoto Musashi’s story would be nice😆
Yesss been wanting a story of him.
I really like your channel
your family is so beautiful-
I enjoy your video, as always, sir
Very nice to see your colabs
My thoughts
3. This one seems like the Tenkai myth, except is has less evidence to both back it up and contradict it. I think that said temple had a worship shrine of Mitsunari on the request of Satake Yoshinobu.
4. This one i do not know much about, however it seems quite unbelievable,
Toyotomi Hideyoshi discovered Ishida Mitsunari as a tea master, not as a soldier. I might believe half the fantasies regarding his political intrigues but not his capability to survive a bloodbath especially how prominent he is to his enemies.
I mean, he initially served Hideyoshi as a page and not a soldier so you are right.
The crossover I've been waiting for!!! ❤️
Shogo, as someone who had read about Japan since childhood, I admire and love your videos. I have a mix of things you might choose to tell us about in one of your next videos: Hattori Hanzo (Ieyasu's ninja), the movie Shinobi no Mono (the first one and maybe the rest of them), and lastly about zaibatsus (do they still exist in Japan). Domo arigato!!!
Hey Shojo! Can you possibly make a video upon the subject of using other silverware (forks, spoons, ect) in Japan? Like reactions from certain people, if its okay at a restaurant or not allowed, all of that stuff, I think alot of people would like to see it!
These guys have such a natural chemistry
Now we know it, thanks for your brief Japan history of our studies as well,, 👍👍
Have you ever seen “Shogun” by James Clavell, miniseries from the 80’s ???
Thanks for the History lesson U are great at educating People on Japanese history Thumbs up 👍 Shogo
Great video!!!!
Shogo can u pls make a video about clans fightings and these clans pls. I want to learn more about clans
Great video as always! I recall ともこ wanting to start a band with the rest of the team and I just came up with a fun name if that ever happens, "the shogonate" it's just something I found kinda funny but yeah
You should do a video about Yoshimitsu Ashikaga, the third shogun of the Muromachi period who almost usurped the Imperial Throne before mysteriously dying (some people says he was poisoned)
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Could you do a review on the movie "The Man with the Iron Fists" 1 and 2 please?
I am not sure if that movie is Japanese or not.
Can you try hachiman minamoto next I a little bit confuse
"DEATH BY SEAFOOD!" By historical coincidence KING HENRY I of England was said to have died after eating lampreys (a kind of eel- like sea creature).
With respect, I believe ALL the therorys mentioned this & the previous video. I did NOT agree with the shogunate's feeling about mitsunari ishida however, with the exception of this plausibility: the friend obviously felt indebted to him and made the monument with considerations for his family & ishida personally. Consider this though, why would there be details about the man engaging in ritual suicide at the age of 74, Were it not actually true? I think his benefactor & friend that passed away ( kobuta) was in fact in his debt and provided sanctuary for him for as long as he needed (due to his coming to his defense and aid in maintaining his political position and yearly stipend) without disgrace or honor lost so, it would seem extremely plausible that this man would patron him and care for him until his death at which point ishida, after living a long and fruitful life, in his care, would have nothing to do but thereafter follow him into the Afterlife for: their fates where tied together & would have most likely lost a protection that kabota offered- I mean, nobody else owed him anything right? So, what else to do but follow your friend into the thereafter?
Verily,
-The Void
But the biggest question still remains...
Who killed Sakamoto Ryōma?
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It wasn't me. I have an alibi.
So in summary that Tokugawa Ieyasu was killed in Osaka and Akechi Mitsuhide survived and lived as monk advisor of the Tokugawa shogunat is pausible. While the other theories are very unlikely, especially the theory of Uesugi Kenshin was a woman.
Especially because he was adopted by Uesugi, like what's the point adopting a woman what poses as a man to be a person who will continue Uesugi clan. Like nobody will get a hint when she will give a birth to a child (like in a legendary story of female Pope Joan, or how she was called). That's the most insane theory ever.
Kenshin was just infernile and, quite probably, a pederast.
Shingen>Kenshin
What's the pros and cons between a cutlass and a katana during a battle inside a ship?
I've watched age of samurai on Netflix like five times now and they say that he died in his bed a year after from stomach cancer...
I remember watching a movie in the 80's that had Ieyasu being killed by battlefield ninja led by Sanada.
I dunno. I've read somewhere that mitsunari's head was already discovered in 1901 after it went missing when it was displayed in kyoto
The title scared me a bit too much, I thought you're actually gonna talk to a REAL shogunate but The Shogunate is just the channel name 😅😂
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another suprise from Nippon history!
I swear, Genshin Impact have a lot of references to this 😂
It wasn't the tempura so much as the sea bream tempura was cooked in camilia seed oil which is slightly toxic.
Douglas Macarthur was the last Shogun
interesting theories.
Did Akechi Mitsuhide kill Oda Nobunaga?
Bro I watch empire of Japan on Netflix and it ended with ieyasu
What about date masamune?!
I guess Yukimura got the last laugh
hiiii
So Tokugawa also didn't really fair that much better than CaoCao huh? Guess the way of Sun Tzu is really the ultimate way of winning by any means necessary but won't bod well for those who do it.
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🇺🇸😕Actually, Tokugawa Ieyasu is my hero for ending the Sengoku Period and re-establishing Japan under a new Shogunate order by the Tokugawa Clan. And now you tell us that Ieyasu died right before he established his Tokugawa Shogunate order? These theories are controversial to me and I strongly want to believe that Tokugawa Ieyasu was still alive doing his battle duties, keeping his friendship with his English man William Adams and I want to believe that Ieyasu was still alive before his death in 1616. I still honor him and his Tokugawa Clan as Shoguns that helped keep Japan at peace and prosperity without civil wars and without European Colonial Threats by both Spaniards and Portuguese Traders, those two European traders were real A••holes for ruining Japan from 1543 to 1638! I’m glad the Tokugawa Shogunate had to isolate Japan from 1638 to 1854 so that Japan can preserve its cultural heritage and Japanese influences that we have today, and my tributes go to Tokugawa Ieyasu and his family as Shoguns who also protected the Japanese Imperial family before the Meiji Restoration. Tokugawa Ieyasu is my Japanese hero, forever!
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