Hayden has talked about the youngling that stumbled back when Anakin ignited his lightsaber. He said that during filming, when he ignited it, he shouted at the kid, startling him, and they took the first take.
The novelization nailed this moment so well. The story is kinda bookended by chapters that start with "This is how it feels to be Anakin Skywalker..." with the first being borderline euphoric, and the last sounding like a literal hell. Highly recommend it.
We are truly sorry for how much of the reaction portion are muted & blurred! The reason is because so many scenes are layered with iconic music that kept triggering YT's copyright detection, so we had to keep going back to re-edit and muted and blur more and more scenes until we got a version that didn't result in a copy right complaint :(
I know nobody has complimented you on this but it seems like you both have great taste in music!!! I loved your Epica and The Velvet Underground shirts!!!
Sorry for that tangent, it's just that you mentioned music in this comment and I have one more suggestion, I know normally you don't react to videos but now that you've finished the prequels as well, you should React to the video "Before The Dark Times" by Mr. RazNZ, it is a great video to understand what Obi Wan was thinking of and going through inside at the beginning of Episode IV.
Y’all should watch the clone wars, it explains a ton of stuff behind the clones and why they turned, anakins apprentice, and a ton of other stuff, it’s great
Palpatine had been grooming him since he became a padawan. It's implied that Anakin was created by someone through the Force. Also implied that Palpatine had influenced Anakin's nightmares and paranoia.
I hate bringing up the sequels but its the perfect reference for this. Palpatine gave Kylo Ren The Anakin Treatment. He essentially told him something along the lines of "I am every voice you've ever heard in your head." its the same thing he did to anakin
In the book Plageus it is outright stated that he tried to create the ultimate darkside force user but the living force rejected his attempt to upset the balance so much so kind of allowed it to work but in a random woman on the planet. Plageus thought it didn't work.
Lucas quote " Anakin's birth The midi-chlorians started the birth process in Anakin's mother. The Whills communicated the command to the midi-chlorians, which activated the DNA that germinated the egg. That's why Anakin doesn't have a father. He was in a bizarre and metaphorical way touched by God, but in this case they happened to be one-celled animals"
This guy is the ONLY reviewer I've seen that actually noticed that Anakin lost both legs and his human arm. Everyone else only remarks at him losing his legs. And I've watched a lot of Star Wars reaction vids
Always remember storm troopers are not clone troopers they are not the same... Storm troopers are not clones.. Anakin was born from the force itself Not Sidious Like I said in my other comment watch the clone wars series.. there's even a story arc about the chosen one called Mortis And it's 100% canon even into the Mandalorian and future shows to come
technically you could say he was born because of Sidious, or rather, as a reaction to Sidious and Plagueis manipulating the force and tilting it towards the dark side. When people say he brings balance to the force it's LITERALLY balance.
@@mallus1313 nope All of them retire So we're told ,,,more than likely we will find out in the bad batch ,,,, they all get exterminated Because their inhibitor chips aren't working anymore ..
@@WileSire It's already been asked to Lucas film and we got a definitively cannon answer Sidious /Palpatine Is not his father ,Nor did he manipulate the force to create him ,The force doesn't work that way... I could send you a video link if you feel like watching ua-cam.com/video/EAAqJgSWBD8/v-deo.html
"I'm curious what happened between Anakin and Obi-Wan, that he would trust the Chancellor more than him." Don't forget that Obi-Wan has essentially raised him since he was a kid taken from his mother. That's a very paternal relationship, and Anakin is rebelling. It's likely that he blames Obi-Wan, at least in part, for many of the frustrations and disappointments he has had in his life. The Chancellor, on the other hand, is reinforcing his rebellion, telling him things he wants to hear.
Thing is, after being taken away from his mom, a paternal relationship is what Anakin wanted, but he did not get that with Obi-Wan. Kenobi acted as Anakin's older brother: he obviously cared for his Padawan, but sometimes acted condescendingly, with Anakin feeling he was being weighed down. The rest of the Jedi Masters' attitude was strict and demanding, also mistrustful in Windu's case. In contrast, Palpatine played the role of a loving and understanding father, slowly eroding Anakin's trust in the Jedi and essentially grooming him for apprenticeship for 13 years.
The definitive question is: if Anakin followed Yoda's advice and literally did nothing to save Padmé, would she still be alive? Because it was this quest that ended up killing Padmé.
I think she would have died anyway, that's the power of the vision. But the Jedi ideology is basically let go of that which you cannot control, Anakin couldn't accept it. Assuming you have or can gain the power to change things is a dark side trait in itself.
Part of the reason Jango Fett was used as the prototype for the clones, is that he was a notorious Jedi killer. As an "OT" fan, I didn't harbor the same level of dislike for this trilogy as many of my peers. I actually enjoyed the PT, especially THIS episode. 9:46 - Obi-Wan treated Anakin like a "brother"... whereas Palpatine treated him like a SON. A "father figure" is what Anakin has been searching for all his life. 10:30 - The Dark Side of The Force is a pathway to MANY abilities, some consider to be.... unnatural..... (sorry, couldn't help myself) 12:02 - Palpatine knew, because he had "spies" all over Naboo(his own home planet). Even though there was only the "minister" who performed the ceremony, the two participants, and the droids....... he KNEW that Anakin and Padme' had gotten married(in secret). Either the minister gave up the info, or Palpatine saw it through The Force. 12:21 - That's a Sith ability. The scream Palpatine let out as he leapt forward causes feat/doubt in his target. In the Clone Wars series, Anakin uses this same power, at some point. 13:28 - If I hadn't already given the Like.... I would have done it for the Eddie Izzard reference! NICELY DONE!!! 16:02 - Good call! You noticed that Obi-Wan cut off both legs AND his left arm in one swoop. 17:30 - Okay.... to answer THAT question.... there is only speculation, really. It's possible that Palpatine used some sort of Sith alchemy to drain Padme' of her life force to preserve Anakin. Though, this has NOT been confirmed. It does, remain a very logical choice.
What you said about 9:46 is also the reason the music playing during Darth Maul fight in EP 1 is called "Duel of Fates", since if Qui-Gon had survived, he would be the one to train Anakin and he would be more like a father to him, rather than a brother
Yeah Cinema Therapy does a great episode on Anakin and how he has BPD and we are shown on screen that Palps is always that loving and helpful father (as an act) and always giving unconditional support where as the Jedi, especially Kenobi really do treat Anakin like absolute shit. Like there is perhaps only 1 or 2 examples in the whole of cannon of Kenobi actually praising Anakin in a sincere way (when they split up for the last time) but dozens of him being sarcastic or giving backhanded complements. He also gets super attached to the first woman who gives him any care and attention who isn't his mother. As to the last one. It's shown in cannon that Palps can use the force to choke people to death via holocom. So probably.
@@AlexanderNash No need to fight you. I think it's definitely in the top 4, which, in my opinion, are all pretty much tied for the top spot. Star Wars (A New Hope to you younger fans), Empire Strikes Back, and Rogue One are the other three that are right up there with it. ANH because it WAS the one that started this whole thing, and revolutionized the way movies were made. Empire because of it's "shocking twist" that no one saw coming in 1980, RotS because, well, it's fully bad-ass, and Rogue One because of how it details just how the Rebels stole the plans for the Death Star in the firs place. Also, that Vader hallway scene. If you want to make it "top 5", then Jedi comes in that spot. But the top 4 are pretty much tied for that "top spot".
For the prequels, they are called CLONE TROOPERS, and make up the bulk of the Republicain Army. By the time we get to Episode 4, there is no more Republic, and it has been replaced by an Empire. The clones have also been replaced by actual folks who signed up to serve the Empire and became Storm Troopers.
Anakin's attack on the temple was going to have more scenes but were cut out because it was too brutal. You do actually see a part of one of those cut scenes when Obi-wan is watching the hologram of anakin fighting with some jedi.
The book of Revenge of the Sith explains so much more of this story and I recommend all to read it. Palpatine's speech about Darth Plagueis should include that his holocron (data/info store) was confiscated by the Jedi, held in the Temple Archives and is only accessible to a Jedi Master. When Palpatine appoints Anakin to the Council - which should convey Master rank (opening the way for him to save Padme), the Jedi Council refuses to make him a Master (blocking the path to save Padme). From a certain point of view, Palpatine is helping Anakin and the Jedi keep holding him back. The 'seduction' scene in the book is magnificent too, with Palpatine pushing Anakin with the question "What do you want?". When Anakin tells Palpatine he should kill him for being Sith, Palpatine responds with "I'm offering you anything you want. Did you think that excluded my life? If you need to kill me, I won't resist you." Anakin is shocked - you won't fight back!? Palpatine looks horrified: You're my friend - I would never fight you!
@@ThePixel1983 because Anakin leads with his emotions not his mind where as Palpatine only sees emotions as a way of controlling other people but he himself doesn't have any except for hatred. Palpatine is a master of manipulation
I read the book before I saw the movie. So I understood things that happened in the movie that others complained about going to fast. I just tell them to read the book to flesh out the seduction to the dark side
Fun fact - the reaction of the youngling who stumbled backwards was real. Hayden Christensen yelled "BOO!" to scare him and make his reaction look more real. It worked!
Couple things: 1. Yes. Darth Plageus and Palpatine were responsible for the creation of Anakin. His plan was to create the ultimate being, the Chosen One, by throwing the force out of balance. Yes. Palpatine was the apprentice who kills him. So, when Anakin and Palpatine are sitting at the opera, in that one scene, he’s basically telling him “I’m your father”. Interestingly, if you were to go back and watch attack of the clones, the representative for the Banking Clan, allying themselves with Dooku and the separatists, is the same species as Plageus. 2. Despite Anakin losing his limbs, getting burned alive, and getting put in a bulk, painful, mostly robotic iron lung suit, this is not what makes him “weaker”. These are things Vader slowly overcomes. It’s when Palpatinelies to his apprentice about the death of his wife, in the hopes that losing the last of his ties would make him the ultimate Sith apprentice. While we do see for a short amount of time the raw strength of Vader’s rage, this is what ultimately breaks him. It fills him with hate, but instead of using this against everyone and anything around him, he turns against himself. He becomes depressed. Since Sidious is the last connection Vader has, this is why he never goes through taking his place. Thus, Sidious seems Vader a failure and schemes to have him replaced one day. It’s not until Vader learns that the rebel who destroyed the Death Star was his lost child, does he regain some personal motivation and purpose. 3. I always say the conversation Obi-Wan and Anakin have on the river of lava come across as: “You should have told me the Council was plotting to overthrow the Chancellor after Grivous was killed.” Obi-Wan does not deny this. In fact: he justifies this by telling him: “Yo man, he’s evil.” Which is kinda a stupid reason, practically. From the outsider’s perspective: Palpatine helped build an army, win a war, and give the Republic a new sense of purpose. Who cares if he’s evil or a Sith. What even is that?” Obi-Wan knew this is what the council was plotting to do this, or had an idea of this, and kept this from Anakin. Which is the final straw for the man.
The jedi council basically assuming anakin was dangerous or a threat to the jedi and treating him as such, was actually part of the reason he turned to the dark side in the first place. Maybe if the council didn't treat him with such suspicion he would have been loyal to them instead of palpatine. I think this is part of what Yoda is talking about when he says "Failed, I have".
When I was in third grade (1978?) I read that Darth Vader and Ben Kenobi fought on the edge of a volcano and Darth Vader fell in and that is why he had that whole suit and breathing thing. I waited from then until this movie came out to see the scene. (27 years)
Grievous actually has a very tragic story Basically, before he was a cyborg, he was a Kaleesh warrior (reptilian species). An alien species called the Huk were trying to enslave the Kaleesh people. At the time, Grievous had a girlfriend, who was also a warrior. The Huk killed his girlfriend, and Grievous couldn't even find the body, as it was now in Davy Jones locker. This is when Grievous changed his name to "Grievous" his name before was "Q'yaeunn" or something like that. Enraged, Grievous made a counter attack to the Huks home planet. Grievous and his warriors were just about to win the war, until the Huk contacted the Jedi. The Jedi's --without looking into the details and the fact that the Huk were the enslavers-- started fighting the Kaleesh. Eventually, the Kaleesh people had to retreat, and got fined by the Republic for the war. Now, the home planet of Kalee had starving Kaleesh people everywhere. They went into extreme poverty. By now Grievous had an extreme hatred for the Jedi. This is when Count Dooku and Sidious contacted Grievous. The offer was that the CIS would keep the Kaleesh people from dying, and would pay their bills, as long as Grievous was a council member. They saw this as an opportunity to get a great warrior. Hesitantly, Grievous agreed. Grievous was a council member for a little while, and the Kaleesh people were doing well. After a while, Grievous wanted to quit, as his home planet was doing fine. But Dooku and Sidious couldn't let that happen. They rigged the shuttle that Grievous was gonna use, and rigged it to explode. Grievous almost died in the explosion, so Dooku gave him cybernetic parts in order to survive. Dooku also told him that the Jedi were the ones who shot down the ship, only fueling Grievous's hatred. Dooku had also added cybernetics to Grievous's brain, making him more loyal to Dooku. Dooku then taught him how to use lightsabers. Now Grievous was a Jedi killer. He hunted Jedi and took their lightsabers as trophies. He was also a General and commanded the Droid army. Grievous truly had a tragic life.
@@mallus1313 its still canon until they make a movie or something about it. But that's not going to happen. Besidesn Lair of Grievous hints at that backstory.
Should watch ROTJ to see the end of Vader and the Empire, not the beginning of it. I don't understand why people don't get that the prequels are back story, and you don't end on the back story.
Anakin was more upset about not being granted the title of Master Jedi because as a Master he would have access to books that would have shown him more about the force. He thought the books had info on how he could save Padme.
You should really get into the clone wars animated series in the future. Really fleshes out the time between 2-3. And yes, that was “Jango.” They are clones of him after all. You’ll get to know more of Clone Troopers in the series as well.
Padme also does alot more in the Clone Wars show along with Dooku. Order 66 and the clones are super fleshed out as well. Its more heartbreaking then brutal once you watch the show.
I don't think the Sith can influence dreams. I've always believed that Anakin was having his own dream, but Palpatine was able to sense Anakin's desperation.
There is the CloneWars (2003) cartoon mini-series (Volume I+II) that was supposed to be watched between episode II and III. It makes a lot of things more clear in episode III. The later 7-season CloneWars CGI series does a similar job, but tells a somewhat different story. Don't even bother watching Disney StarWars episode VII to IX or Solo. (RogueOne is good though).
Hayden took so much detail from James Earl Jones voice of Vader, the way he pronounces things like "my master" it just rolls off his lips perfectly, and he took those movements from the late great David Prowse that was the physical body of Vader in the original movies
Daaaaamn you guys even caught the immaculate conception thing. Yeah, it’s speculated (maybe even outright stated in books that might not be canon anymore) that Plaguis and Sidious were messing with the force in ways that actually made the Force react, thus creating Anakin. He’s like the universe creating an antibody to rectify a huge imbalance of power.
The very reason that the clone troops could be "programmed" to execute secret orders, is also the reason the emperor scraps the clone program and recruit storm troops instead.
When someone is burned alive oftentimes one of the first things to happen is severe damage to the lungs due to the inhalation of hot gasses. According to Wikipedia. The breathing apparatus would have definitely been necessary.
When you realize that Darth Sidious orchestrated both sides of the Clone Wars, and engineered an army with genetic programming predisposed to eradication of all of his enemies. He is truly insidious.
Also, I'll add in some clarity. This isn't like Expanded Universe, it comes from the novelization... So Anakin is having the death dreams. He researches that there may be the info he needs to save Padme in the Jedi Archives in these storage devices called holocrons. They even have a few Sith holocrons. However, to get to the deep arcane holocrons and Sith ones, you have to be a Master. So when Palpatine put him on the Council, Anakin thinks he has soled his issue. But when Mace tells him he's on the Council but not a Master, that's why he's mad and frustrated. It's not cause he wants power or to just be a Master. It creates another wedge in that the Jedi just keep roadblocking him. Palpatine keeps offering him solutions, the Jedi blocking. Oh and think of Grevious as a Vader prototype. He was an alien and is now a cyborg, so sort of Beta test Vader. He is coughing to show he's organic and not a battle droid, but in the Clone Wars animated, Mace and him fight and Mace crushes his lungs and damages him, hence the cough.
It's really irritating how there's so much stuff from the EU in general and even just the movie novelizations that makes the prequel's story so much better/more interesting that just wasn't included in the actual movies.
The order 66 scene feels even more sad and shocking after watching the "Clone Wars" series because they develop the clones and the relationships they have created with the Jedi over the years.
Lucas himself confirmed there was only really one alternate course of events that could have saved Anakin. That is if Qui Gon had lived. He doesn’t elaborate passed that, except to say, that that’s why the song is called Duel of the Fates when they fight Darth Maul, because Anakin’s fate was literally in the balance. My interpretation of it is thar Anakin, as an older child with connections to his mother and the need for relationships, was different than the other students who are taken as infants and raised in the temple. For him to properly develop, he needed a deeper connection in his life and he needed someone who would not ALWAYS follow the rules. Qui Gon was a little bit of a rebel Jedi. He didn’t always follow the code, because he knew that out in the real world, you had to react to the Force in the moment. He would have been capable of reading Anakin, catering his learning to his needs, perhaps even rescuing his mother and even helping him balance his love and relationship with Padme with his place as a Jedi. So no, Padme was never gonna bring Anakin back to the light, whether Obi Wan was with him or not.
I agree. In a way, Qui Gon would have been a good father figure. Unfortunately, he got the bad father figure in Sidious. Both trilogies are about father son relationship really. In one the son saves the father, and in the other the father dooms the son. Obi Wan, bless him, tried, but he was an elder brother, not a father. A fatherly one, but still... I always loved in fact how Lucas mirrors the transformation. In Jedi the son is laying on the floor begging his father to save him, and Anakin does, saving his own soul in the process. While here, Sidious is the one lying on the floor begging to be saved, and Anakin dooms himself by doing so.
Lucas likes his “rhyming” thematic elements. Lol. The moments do echo each other, but I always like to point out that Anakin’s doesn’t fall because of his attachments. He falls because he gets obsessive and possessive. By contrast, Luke is grounded by his attachments, but he’s so selfless that he puts everyone above himself and so makes better decisions ultimately. It is, in fact, Anakin’s attachments that eventually save him. Without them, he’s unlikely to make the decision to help Luke in ROTJ.
@@Dacre1000 ultimately I tend to interpret the two trilogies as “this is how attachment can destroy you” and “this is how attachment can save you”. I always kind of hated the whole “Jedi are sexless monks who can’t have families thing. It bothered me that Star Wars characterizes deep emotional connection as a gateway drug to the dark side, and it reminds me of the people I’ve known who have maintained healthy relationships vs the ones who become codependent and obsessive. I’m a big fan of the old novels that came out prior to the prequels and the concept of the celibate Jedi. I watched Luke get married and have a kid and even when tragedy struck, he maintained his goodness despite wanting to succumb to rage and anger because he used good psychological coping mechanisms. To me the image of Anakin embraced by the light can only be read as an example of positive attachment and the selflessness of real love (father/son) vs the twisted and possessive version he engaged in with Padme.
Personally, I really like the Clone Wars series, which takes place in the period between episode 2 and episode 3 of the movies, because it really develop better the "terrain" for Revenge of the Sith. I would recommend you watch it sometime.
For all the hatred Anakin feels, it's mostly directed at himself. He betrayed his fellow Jedi, the man who he considered brother and father all for the woman he loved and in the end. . .it was all for nothing. That's what he sees and that is why it is so easy for Palpatine to control him now, because Vader believes there's nothing left for him in the galaxy.
Fun fact *(sorta spoilers for I think maybe parts of Clone Wars, and Bad Batch, can't remember)* . . . . . . . . . . The storm troopers aren't actually the clones! The clones were phased out at some point in the Empire's life in favor of volunteers from the general public. So the reason they can't ever aim properly (besides plot armor) is the Empire's training programs must really suck, lol
If you really wanna understand more you should read the books on Plagueis, it is a very good read and gives a lot of backstory to Palpatine. As much of a villain as he is, once you read that book you understand how badass Palpatine is, but he was PURE EVIL at a very young age. To turn Palpatine to the darkside was quite easy for Plagueis.
“I’m curious what happened between Anakin and Obi-Wan, for Anakin to trust the Chancellor like that.” Here’s what I’ll say to that-Anakin and Obi-Wan’s relationship was complicated, and there were some things Anakin couldn’t trust Obi-Wan with, which he highly likely told Palpatine. Palpatine knew Anakin just as long as Obi-Wan did, and he played the father figure role to perfection. Tbh, the only Jedi who would’ve been equipped to train Anakin in the way he needed …was Qui-Gon. Jedi were pretty much raised at a very young age-younger than Anakin was when he met Qui-Gon. That’s because younglings haven’t fully developed emotional attachments to their families and loved ones, so it’s easier for them to not hold onto those they’re taken away from. Qui-Gon understood that emotions - both negative and positive - were natural and healthy-a sentiment most Jedi did not agree with. This was a major reason why Qui-Gon never made it to the High Council. There’s moments in The Phantom Menace where Obi-Wan didn’t agree with Qui-Gon’s stances, as Obi-Wan had mostly adhered to the Jedi’s way of life. That’s why Qui-Gon’s death was so impactful. Only Qui-Gon would’ve helped Anakin navigate his emotions and transition into Jedi way of life. Up until the Duel with Maul, Obi-Wan didn’t trust Anakin and honestly agreed with the High Council as to why Anakin shouldn’t have been trained. So in some ways, Anakin wasn’t lying in Episode II when he said Obi-Wan was holding him back… because you can argued he definitely did. Obi-Wan only took on that responsibility out of respect to Qui-Gon’s memory. Anakin’s future as Vader was sealed the moment Maul plunged that lightsaber in Qui-Gon’s stomach, hence “Duel of the Fates”.
@Darkstar how could they choose not the follow order 66 we didn't see anything like that if you talk about Rex i think it was about Fives telling him about the chips
The Gungans and Nemoidians definitely got on my nerves by the end. But yeah, everything else I love. Seeing Anakin as a slave, the podrace, him blowing up the main ship, the Duel of the Fates fight. Seeing the council and the political system that they had before the Empire.
You are not alone. I personally cringed from all the bad press the prequels got, and felt bad for George Lucas. He worked so hard to bring the movies back and everybody hated on him. How do y'all feel now that it is in the hands of Disney?! Bet the prequels look pretty great now, huh?
I think you are spot on with your immaculate conception theory. It also ties into a theory I heard that the Sith cant actually create life, only transfer it. So Padme was killed because the emperor was pulling her life to save Vader. Some poor person also died to create Anikin.
In an older draft of the movie, it confirmed that palpatine and plagueis did create anakin, but George Lucas removed it cause he wanted to leave some matters ambiguous for fans to decide
Also padme couldve died from an actual condition, i forget the name. But the heartstrings that control ur valves and snap from extreme stress. Maybe when ani choked her after her relaizing that the love of her life isnt himself anymore, her heart probably couldnt handle the stress from also being choke by her soulmate.
I'm sure that this is answered in one of the 379 comments that already exist, but I am too lazy to check: Vader does mean Father in Dutch, but it's 100% a coincidence for it's use in the movies.
The fact that some clones didnt know what they did. Some had breakdowns after, i heard some s*cid*s. And some clones just went along becuase they still have to serve there new emperor and y had to evolve or be killed. Clones had it so bad, and george lucas gives interesting morales about clones. Ewan mcgregor is in an ok movie abojt clones and the morals about them, called the island.
The Darth Plagues thing is just a Deus Ex Machina. George needed a way to entice Anakin to the Dark side so Sidious just happens to know the techniques of Plagues to tempt Anakin, cause Anakins biggest fear is LOSING those he loves, his Mother and now possibly Padme. Also if you listen to the part where Sidious says Plagues is killed by his apprentice and it was ironic cause of Plagues powers thats becuase Sidious was Plagues apprentice, hence how he knows about the power to save others. Also the Opera Scene is considered the BEST scene of the Prequels. Yeah its not action or about the main characters journey but it expands upon the lore and abilities of the Force and the Sith in the Star Wars universe.
Plagueis was experimenting around with using the Force to extend his own life, and created Anakin as a side effect. When Palpatine killed Plagueis, he was aware of Anakin's existence and actively groomed him to become his future apprentice. Poor kid was literally born to be a tool of the Sith. In regards to your, "what if?' scenario, the real question is what would have happened had Anakin's apprentice not been expelled from the Jedi Order. In between episodes 2 and 3 he had an apprentice that fought with him during the Clone Wars and functioned as sort of a voice of reason and conscience. [>>SPOILERS below for "The Clone Wars," "Rebels" and "The Mandalorian" television shows
@@wolfpredator1000 TCW may be a bigger time investment than 2003 CW but it is a lot more than just filler. It develops the friendship between Anakin and Obi-Wan much more than the movies. It makes Anakin's fall to the dark side a lot more believable as the jedi council screws over both him and his padawan. It gives the clones and the jedi a lot more personality and gives the clones a reason for executing order 66 without question, which makes it even more tragic. It gives more screen time to Dooku and Grievous and shows the power gap between Dooku and Anakin slowly closing. It shows the political manipulations by Palpatine to gain more power and slowly turn the republic into the empire. It introduces a new protagonist (Ahsoka) and new antagonists like Darth Maul who have great story arcs of their own. It first introduces the Mandalorians and thus laid the groundwork for The Mandalorian. I have nothing against 2003 CW. It is great in its own right. But TCW did so much world building and character development that it really enhances the prequels and Star Wars in general. I'd argue that TCW is some of the best Star Wars content out there.
@@maltemartin4580 The clones are clones, not your friends, you think an endless war for three years gives people "personality"? That adds no tragedy, that's just for emotional fragile fans who can't take cold blood betrayal. The Obi-Wan/Anakin friendship happens nowhere in the show, they barely are together in every season. Anakin felt to the dark side to save Padme. not because of the order, in fact that takes away the drastic decision that Anakin made on his own. Grievous fails at everything he does. It never shows how Palpatine gains power because of one scene where Padme turns the senate to HER side, so save the lies. Ahsoka has nothing going on on her own besides getting her feelings hurt by the order not trusting her, and Maul's arc serves no purpose to the overall story, that's just random filler that will make no difference if it was deleted. It doesn't introduce the mandalorians first, you amateur. TCW only makes the galactic republic seem like a few random villages per planet instead of massive cities to make it actually look believable.
@@wolfpredator1000 No need to be so offensive. I view almost all your points completely differently but you seem to be very emotional about TCW so I won't be able to convince you. So let's just agree to disagree, ok?
@@maltemartin4580 Let me tell you something about TCW, when it is not a pointless arc like a bunch of astrodroids getting back a memory card from the separatists that is never mentioned again in the entire series and you never find a single trail of use either, it is a complete incoherence about the character like Obi-Wan and Anakin working together with Dooku to escape a few pirates instead of having the priority to kill Dooku right there to end the clone wars. That's how ridiculous TCW is. You think I'm emotional when you can't bare the fact that the cliché soldiers the clones were turned into with their sense of democracy and all that can't be just as the Kaminoans created them and act like sociopaths? Give me a break
Palpatine/Plageuis created Anakin. Palpatine had been grooming and influencing Anakin. Influencing his dreams, psychology. Likely influenced helping the sand people kill his Mother. Palpatine is pure evil and the puppet master. He pulls all the strings.
About Padme doing a lot more, a lot of deleted scenes shows her, along with a younger Senator Mon Mothma (whom we see as the prime leader of the Rebel Alliance in Episode VI), laying foundations to what would eventually become the Rebel Alliance in the Original Trilogy. You could find those clips here in the Tube.
You need to watch Clone Wars. The reason on what Padme fue, Is because Lord Sidious can't create life, just "transform" energy. So, Sidious "take" Padme's life to save Vader, because Anakin die.
Just think how many decades of suffering and death could have been prevented if Obi-wan had been a bro and put Vader out of his misery. Wtf kind of person just leaves somebody to suffer like that, even if they are an enemy or someone who betrayed you?
25:15 "Star Wars: Infinities" was a series of comics that spin out very different chains of events in each film, following a single change in the plot. In "A New Hope" Luke's torpedoes fail to destroy the Death Star. In "The Empire Strikes Back" Luke dies in the blizzard on Hoth and Leia ends up training under Yoda. In "Return of the Jedi" that pretty convoluted plan to rescue Han from Jabba's palace goes wrong.
The Clone Wars [animated series] explains about General Grievous - he is a cyborg - mostly machine but he started off as a warrior who chose to be "augmented".
just me i guess from freinmds i talked too, but i love hopw they show yoda, this 800 year old powerhouse get his ass beat but the EMPORER. if yoda from the OT was so badass and 800 yo how did he not stop sidous and save the replic. well EP 3 showed he tried at the last moment and Obiwan wan and ruined the chosen one while yoda lost.
Vader got to become a force ghost because he redeemed himself in the last 5 minutes of his life.... unlike Qui-Gon Jinn who was cremated and never seen again.
I don't think much would have changed if Obi-Wan hadn't shown up there. Honestly, I already think it would be very difficult for Anakin to change his mind at that end because he was already very paranoid and fallen to the dark side, I think it would be much more likely that he would try to force Padme to join his new empire. But even assuming Padme managed this, if Obi-Wan hadn't shown up, the whole republic would still have gone to hell and over 90% of the Jedi exterminated at that point. The existence of the Empire and the return of Sith oppression was already a reality at that point, the only thing that would change is that Anakin would run away from his crimes and hide in some corner of the galaxy (Of course, in this scenario the Empire would lose a strong ally, which would be Darth Vader, but I don't think this improves the situation that much tbh. And I think Palpatine would have moved his ass to find a new apprentice somewhere, probably not as strong as Vader, but someone who would still fill that empty space he would leave in the Empire).
"The Clone Wars" - Season 7, Episodes 9 -12 (last 4 eps of series), mirrors the same time as the "Order 66" moments from this film. Really amazing additional perspective to the same time frame. Annakin and Darth Vader included, along with Obi Wan. Would highly recommend those 4 episodes.
I believe the Sith names went like this: - Originally George creates a story with lots of background details to give it a rich palette from which he can draw to create at least one, hopefully three, movies - Those background details are in a constant state of flux as the story grows and he, being the ultimate decision-maker about that universe, decides what makes it better or worse - an example being that Luke was originally called Luke Starkiller, not Skywalker. - when he named the main villain from the original Star Wars movie, he decided on Darth Vader as a quasi-Dark Father inference. This served the original purpose well enough. I believe that in Dutch the wording is pretty close. - Later, when he decided to create the Prequels, there were many things he had to give meaning to. At that point we know that he decides to imply that ‘Darth’ is a Sith title, like Padawan of Master is for Jedi. So then, when naming Palpatine’s Sith persona, he plays with dropping the ‘In’ from Invader and Insidious - why else would the word Sidious be used. I’m aware that Maul, Tyranus, and Plagueis don’t fit this, nor does Revan or some others from the EU, but Invader vs Insidious is just too obvious to be a coincidence. It might not have been George’s original intention in the mid-70s, but it definitely had to have formed his decision for the Prequels.
It's important to note that the Clone Troopers are not the same as the Stormtroopers. They are the predecessors of Stormtroopers and their armor is designed to look similar, but they're not the same thing. The Clone Wars and The Bad Batch TV show's go into more detail with that.
Simone and George looked straight up horrified when Anakin lost his limbs, eyes turned yellow, screamed “I HATE YOU!”, and then bursted into flames being consumed by evil. That scene left me traumatized.
I think my favourite Easter egg in this is the E.T. aliens in the senate scene. Lucas and Speilburg have always been good friends, so this was probably a nod to the Yoda part in E.T. It’s a loose connection, but it’s still there.
I forget if I said it before, but now you’ve gotten through Episodes 1 - 6, I recommend checking out Ani by Team Starkid. It’s on their UA-cam channel. It’s set a bit before Episode 4 and it’s about how Darth Vader is feeling down, so he decides to get back into pod racing lol. It’s a fun comedy with some cool songs and dance numbers… Oh and lots of Star Wars jokes! Obi Wan is hilarious! And they might even make Jar Jar a good character…
General Grievous was not a droid, rather he was a cyborg, part machine, part alien. In the Clone Wars cartoon there is an episode where the General meets Mace Windu. Mace forces him to flee, but before he can get away, Mace uses the Force to partialy crush his chest, damaging his lungs, hence the cough. Edit: Mace Windu did not die at the end of the fight with Sidius. He jumped from the window. Edit 2: in Padmes death scene, listen closely to the background noises...there is a heartbeat sound...the same is true of the Vader reconstruction scene...but the beats are out of sync...at first. Sidious used Padmes life force to try and save Vader, who's damage was so great that even with all that was done to save him, he was still dieing. Padmes life force was still not enough (and she dies, so Sidious wasn'treally lieing, Anikin did kill her, in a way), so Sidious ends up tying Vaders life force to his own. That was why Sidious' death in Jedi sealed his fate, and he tells Luke 'it's too late for me now.'
Well, Anakin had been put into fucked up war when he was 16, was made a general, had to kill people, had to decide on the live and death of his own people durng the war. All of that while the Jedi Council told him that he has to forget all the human emotions and be a buddhist monk basically. No wander he killed Duku and no wander he took the path of Vader eventually.
I think Palpatine is responsible for Padmé dying and that's why the droids can't figure out why they're losing her. It's implied that Palpatine manipulated Anakin's nightmares and hired Tusken Raiders to torture his mom as well. Palpatine had it all planned out for years.
Nice Eddie Izzard reference!!! Just think if the Galactic Empire was created by Clones turning up planets & asking ‘Do you have a flag’? Fun Fact: Nick Gillard who was stunt coordinator on the prequels stated in an interview that the slaughter of the younglings was actually filmed & was apparently brutal. Upon seeing the dailies Lucas just said ‘Oh god’ in horror of what he saw. The only part of the sequence that remains, is the security footage Obi Wan watches.
Yes, in an earlier draft of the script, Lucas made it much more clear that Palpatine had indeed caused Anakin's conception via the midichlorians. I guess he back-pedalled a bit because the story already had enough plot going on. He did still have Palpatine refer to Anakin as "son," though...
Pre-disney canon... there were about a dozen chances in this movie where Anakin wouldn't have fallen or turned back good. Making him a master instead of being petty, Anakin wouldn't fall. the Jedi finding out Anakin is having dreams about Padme's death and that's why he's desperate, Anakin wouldn't fall. Obi-Wan being on Coruscant when Anakin told the Council Sidious was Palpatine, Anakin wouldn't have fallen. Obi-Wan would either have kept him at the Temple or been with Windu, Palpatine wouldn't have lasted against them. And if he did, Obi-Wan could've kept Anakin in check while Palpatine was killed. Lot of chances. Sidious turned him because he made himself Anakin's only option.
Does anyone know if they reacted to the other Star Wars movies besides rogue one? I can’t find them but from what they said it sounds like they might of. Maybe they got taken down because of copyright?
Palpatine and Mace Windu both saying “he’s too dangerous to be kept alive” is what convinces Anakin that the Jedi were not as good as they claim to be. George Lucas said about movies “they are like poetry, they have to rhyme” You’ll notice a lot of symmetry in his movies. I feel that if Qui Gon had survived in episode 1, he would have been able to guide Anakin through his emotion. Obi-Wan wasn’t ready to be a master (certainly not the master to the Chosen One) and he tried to be strict like he thought a master should be. Sadly, because of that, Anakin couldn’t open up to him about his feelings for Padme. There’s a line in episode 1 that shows Qui-Gon is used to toe the line of the Jedi code.
if anyone else has told you these things....apologies. (hate repeating) Hayden Christiansen asked (if not begged) to be in the Darth Vader suit. so that's him at the end in the suit. Obi Wan has three "call back moments" - when he's in the elevator he says, about Anikin jumping out, "always on the move". call back to him on Tatooeen helping Luke up about the Sand people coming back...he says "quickly. they're on the move". when he jumps down to face Grevous he says "hello there". on Tatooeen when her finds Luke on the ground and is checking on him, he hears R2, looks over and says, "hello there". and after he shoots Grevous with the blaster, he looks at it and says "so uncivilized". calling back to when he gives Luke the light saber...he says "not as clumsy or random as a blaster. an elegant weapon....for a more civilized age". Originally, in Return of the Jedi, Lucas wanted the forrest moon to be full of Wookies. and they were supposed to be the "primitives". but he realized that, with Chewie being as intelligent as he was, the idea of other Wookies being less intelligent wouldn't work. so, since he couldn't have them in battle in that one....he put them in this one.
So you have to remember that Palatine has been manipulating the Jedi, the senate and grooming Anakin for years that's why Anakin trusts him. Also in the prequels the Republic soldiers are clone troopers, after the end of the Clone Wars they are phased out and replaced by conscripted soldiers (stormtroopers), because cloning is so expensive and the Empire decides there's no need for such a big dedicated army.
A few things : 1. Palpatine used the force to steal Padme's life energy to give to Vader so he would live. 2. Palpatine planted the vision of Padme dying into Anakin's head. 3. When Anakin is crying in the Jedi temple ( before he goes to Mace and Palpatine ) it is because he is crying for the things he is going to do. And when he is crying on mustafar ( which stands for Chosen One ) he is crying because of the things he has done including but not limited to killing the younglings. 4. When Anakin kills the younglings , the youngling who said " master Skywalker there are too many of them what are we going to do " was made to resemble a young Anakin Skywalker ( by request of George Lucas ) to show Vader destroying Anakin until Luke helped Anakin destroy Vader at the end of Ep. 6. Also when the youngling stepped back in fear , this is because Hayden Christensen ( Anakin/Vader ) adlibbed the line " boo " to scare him for authenticity. 5. Vader didnt go looking for Luke or Leia because he presumed that the baby/babies died along with Padme. 6. Darth Plagueis is Anakin's father. 7. The original sequence of them ( Anakin + Obi-Wan ) going to rescue the Emperor was initially 1 hour long.
The scene where Obi-Wan beats Anakin and they start yelling at each other is so good. Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen completely sell it. It's heartbreaking to see Obi-Wan's sadness and anger when he tells Anakin that he loved (past tense) him like a brother, and how his love for Anakin meant that he refused to finish him off and it's his fault that Vader survived and did all the horrible crap he did for the next 20 years. Also, earlier when he asks Padme if Anakin is the father of her child and she refuses to answer and he just says "I'm so sorry" and walks away is so good.
Darth Tyrannis (Dooku) provided blood from the frozen body of Jedi Master Sifo-Dyas as a means of keeping Grievous's body alive during his transit to Geonosis, where Poggle the Lesser and his Geonosian scientists implanted his brain and eyes into a duranium alloy body reminiscent of a Krath war droid, complete with LX-44 robotic legs.
Hayden has talked about the youngling that stumbled back when Anakin ignited his lightsaber. He said that during filming, when he ignited it, he shouted at the kid, startling him, and they took the first take.
That's awesome. Hence such a genuine reaction. Beautiful shot, too.
Hayden:
"LIAR!!!"
Some kid actor:
"Hayden... wtf I'm a KID, bro!"
Hayden shouted “Boo” at the kid to help the kid’s reaction be more genuine.
Oh man I would have been TERRIFIED as the kid and FELT SO BAD after if I were Hayden.
@@Sambow23 They should have left the BOO in! 🤣
You know what's going to happen. But when you hear that first breath taken, it still sends a chill down your spine.
You know what’s going to happen, but most reactors still hope against hope that Anakin won’t turn to the dark side.
and lucas had them make the mist move above the grill in the mask
Agreed. Such an awesome shot. Too bad it's followed by the meme-orable "NooOOOoooo"
The novelization nailed this moment so well. The story is kinda bookended by chapters that start with "This is how it feels to be Anakin Skywalker..." with the first being borderline euphoric, and the last sounding like a literal hell.
Highly recommend it.
@@ryanj5993 level of detail in the novelization was amazing
We are truly sorry for how much of the reaction portion are muted & blurred! The reason is because so many scenes are layered with iconic music that kept triggering YT's copyright detection, so we had to keep going back to re-edit and muted and blur more and more scenes until we got a version that didn't result in a copy right complaint :(
I know nobody has complimented you on this but it seems like you both have great taste in music!!! I loved your Epica and The Velvet Underground shirts!!!
Sorry for that tangent, it's just that you mentioned music in this comment and I have one more suggestion, I know normally you don't react to videos but now that you've finished the prequels as well, you should React to the video "Before The Dark Times" by Mr. RazNZ, it is a great video to understand what Obi Wan was thinking of and going through inside at the beginning of Episode IV.
To prevent this you could divide the videos in 2 or 3 parts
Y’all should watch the clone wars, it explains a ton of stuff behind the clones and why they turned, anakins apprentice, and a ton of other stuff, it’s great
@@rxlxviii well seasons 4-7 weren’t like that
Palpatine had been grooming him since he became a padawan. It's implied that Anakin was created by someone through the Force. Also implied that Palpatine had influenced Anakin's nightmares and paranoia.
I hate bringing up the sequels but its the perfect reference for this.
Palpatine gave Kylo Ren The Anakin Treatment. He essentially told him something along the lines of "I am every voice you've ever heard in your head." its the same thing he did to anakin
@@dannyholland7209 True, in Kylo's case he enhanced his fear of never being as good as his grandfather, always being lesser in the family.
In the book Plageus it is outright stated that he tried to create the ultimate darkside force user but the living force rejected his attempt to upset the balance so much so kind of allowed it to work but in a random woman on the planet. Plageus thought it didn't work.
@@Badartist888 Yeah, the fact that the force created anakin because of plagueis is really interesting
Lucas quote " Anakin's birth The midi-chlorians started the birth process in Anakin's mother. The Whills communicated the command to the midi-chlorians, which activated the DNA that germinated the egg. That's why Anakin doesn't have a father. He was in a bizarre and metaphorical way touched by God, but in this case they happened to be one-celled animals"
This guy is the ONLY reviewer I've seen that actually noticed that Anakin lost both legs and his human arm. Everyone else only remarks at him losing his legs. And I've watched a lot of Star Wars reaction vids
I've seen only one other reactor that caught that.
Yep I appreciated that.
Even as he is noticeably crawling with only one arm no one catches it. Nice catch.
I noticed that too
I always knew that (and I watched it as a kid,) I believe I've seen a few reactors point out the arm though.
Always remember storm troopers are not clone troopers they are not the same... Storm troopers are not clones..
Anakin was born from the force itself Not Sidious Like I said in my other comment watch the clone wars series.. there's even a story arc about the chosen one called Mortis And it's 100% canon even into the Mandalorian and future shows to come
Some stormtroopers are clones (in 4-5-6 episodes)
technically you could say he was born because of Sidious, or rather, as a reaction to Sidious and Plagueis manipulating the force and tilting it towards the dark side. When people say he brings balance to the force it's LITERALLY balance.
@@mallus1313 nope All of them retire So we're told ,,,more than likely we will find out in the bad batch ,,,, they all get exterminated Because their inhibitor chips aren't working anymore ..
@@WileSire It's already been asked to Lucas film and we got a definitively cannon answer Sidious /Palpatine Is not his father ,Nor did he manipulate the force to create him ,The force doesn't work that way... I could send you a video link if you feel like watching ua-cam.com/video/EAAqJgSWBD8/v-deo.html
@@Pinkielover I was referencing the whole “grand experiment” thing, not saying that he was created by him.
the balcony ¨i love you¨ scene of Ani & Padme was very Days of our Lives
"I'm curious what happened between Anakin and Obi-Wan, that he would trust the Chancellor more than him." Don't forget that Obi-Wan has essentially raised him since he was a kid taken from his mother. That's a very paternal relationship, and Anakin is rebelling. It's likely that he blames Obi-Wan, at least in part, for many of the frustrations and disappointments he has had in his life. The Chancellor, on the other hand, is reinforcing his rebellion, telling him things he wants to hear.
Thing is, after being taken away from his mom, a paternal relationship is what Anakin wanted, but he did not get that with Obi-Wan. Kenobi acted as Anakin's older brother: he obviously cared for his Padawan, but sometimes acted condescendingly, with Anakin feeling he was being weighed down. The rest of the Jedi Masters' attitude was strict and demanding, also mistrustful in Windu's case. In contrast, Palpatine played the role of a loving and understanding father, slowly eroding Anakin's trust in the Jedi and essentially grooming him for apprenticeship for 13 years.
The chancellor is the cool uncle.
The definitive question is: if Anakin followed Yoda's advice and literally did nothing to save Padmé, would she still be alive? Because it was this quest that ended up killing Padmé.
What’s really gonna bake your noodle later is would you have knocked it over if I hadn’t said anything. - The Oracle
"One often meets their destiny on the road they take to avoid it."
@@sean---the-other-one lmao
I rarely see people talk about how Yoda warned him about sensing the future.
I think she would have died anyway, that's the power of the vision. But the Jedi ideology is basically let go of that which you cannot control, Anakin couldn't accept it. Assuming you have or can gain the power to change things is a dark side trait in itself.
Part of the reason Jango Fett was used as the prototype for the clones, is that he was a notorious Jedi killer.
As an "OT" fan, I didn't harbor the same level of dislike for this trilogy as many of my peers. I actually enjoyed the PT, especially THIS episode.
9:46 - Obi-Wan treated Anakin like a "brother"... whereas Palpatine treated him like a SON. A "father figure" is what Anakin has been searching for all his life.
10:30 - The Dark Side of The Force is a pathway to MANY abilities, some consider to be.... unnatural.....
(sorry, couldn't help myself)
12:02 - Palpatine knew, because he had "spies" all over Naboo(his own home planet). Even though there was only the "minister" who performed the ceremony, the two participants, and the droids....... he KNEW that Anakin and Padme' had gotten married(in secret). Either the minister gave up the info, or Palpatine saw it through The Force.
12:21 - That's a Sith ability. The scream Palpatine let out as he leapt forward causes feat/doubt in his target. In the Clone Wars series, Anakin uses this same power, at some point.
13:28 - If I hadn't already given the Like.... I would have done it for the Eddie Izzard reference! NICELY DONE!!!
16:02 - Good call! You noticed that Obi-Wan cut off both legs AND his left arm in one swoop.
17:30 - Okay.... to answer THAT question.... there is only speculation, really. It's possible that Palpatine used some sort of Sith alchemy to drain Padme' of her life force to preserve Anakin. Though, this has NOT been confirmed. It does, remain a very logical choice.
What you said about 9:46 is also the reason the music playing during Darth Maul fight in EP 1 is called "Duel of Fates", since if Qui-Gon had survived, he would be the one to train Anakin and he would be more like a father to him, rather than a brother
Yeah Cinema Therapy does a great episode on Anakin and how he has BPD and we are shown on screen that Palps is always that loving and helpful father (as an act) and always giving unconditional support where as the Jedi, especially Kenobi really do treat Anakin like absolute shit. Like there is perhaps only 1 or 2 examples in the whole of cannon of Kenobi actually praising Anakin in a sincere way (when they split up for the last time) but dozens of him being sarcastic or giving backhanded complements. He also gets super attached to the first woman who gives him any care and attention who isn't his mother.
As to the last one. It's shown in cannon that Palps can use the force to choke people to death via holocom. So probably.
This is the best Star Wars movie. Fight me.
@@AlexanderNash No need to fight you. I think it's definitely in the top 4, which, in my opinion, are all pretty much tied for the top spot. Star Wars (A New Hope to you younger fans), Empire Strikes Back, and Rogue One are the other three that are right up there with it. ANH because it WAS the one that started this whole thing, and revolutionized the way movies were made. Empire because of it's "shocking twist" that no one saw coming in 1980, RotS because, well, it's fully bad-ass, and Rogue One because of how it details just how the Rebels stole the plans for the Death Star in the firs place. Also, that Vader hallway scene.
If you want to make it "top 5", then Jedi comes in that spot. But the top 4 are pretty much tied for that "top spot".
For the prequels, they are called CLONE TROOPERS, and make up the bulk of the Republicain Army. By the time we get to Episode 4, there is no more Republic, and it has been replaced by an Empire. The clones have also been replaced by actual folks who signed up to serve the Empire and became Storm Troopers.
Anakin's attack on the temple was going to have more scenes but were cut out because it was too brutal. You do actually see a part of one of those cut scenes when Obi-wan is watching the hologram of anakin fighting with some jedi.
supposedly Anakin murders Shaak ti while meditating
@@juancarlosgonzalezmartinez8793 Correct. That was also a filmed scene they cut.
@@juancarlosgonzalezmartinez8793 Shaak Ti has died like 20 times tho depending on whose telling the story tbh.. lol
@@dannyholland7209 I think canonically she died by anakins hand as that’s what we see in his Mortiss vision
@@dannyholland7209 yeah....I think the force is not with her XD
The book of Revenge of the Sith explains so much more of this story and I recommend all to read it. Palpatine's speech about Darth Plagueis should include that his holocron (data/info store) was confiscated by the Jedi, held in the Temple Archives and is only accessible to a Jedi Master. When Palpatine appoints Anakin to the Council - which should convey Master rank (opening the way for him to save Padme), the Jedi Council refuses to make him a Master (blocking the path to save Padme). From a certain point of view, Palpatine is helping Anakin and the Jedi keep holding him back. The 'seduction' scene in the book is magnificent too, with Palpatine pushing Anakin with the question "What do you want?". When Anakin tells Palpatine he should kill him for being Sith, Palpatine responds with "I'm offering you anything you want. Did you think that excluded my life? If you need to kill me, I won't resist you." Anakin is shocked - you won't fight back!? Palpatine looks horrified: You're my friend - I would never fight you!
Wow the Timing, just ordered the book. Couldn’t be more excited
That explains a bit. I never understood why Anakin is so stupid to fall for this.
@@ThePixel1983 because Anakin leads with his emotions not his mind where as Palpatine only sees emotions as a way of controlling other people but he himself doesn't have any except for hatred. Palpatine is a master of manipulation
I read the book before I saw the movie. So I understood things that happened in the movie that others complained about going to fast.
I just tell them to read the book to flesh out the seduction to the dark side
Grievous story is in animated Star Wars the Clone Wars. You also see more reasons that got Anakin to go to dark side. You see human side of clones
"This is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause."
Fun fact - the reaction of the youngling who stumbled backwards was real. Hayden Christensen yelled "BOO!" to scare him and make his reaction look more real. It worked!
Couple things:
1. Yes. Darth Plageus and Palpatine were responsible for the creation of Anakin. His plan was to create the ultimate being, the Chosen One, by throwing the force out of balance. Yes. Palpatine was the apprentice who kills him. So, when Anakin and Palpatine are sitting at the opera, in that one scene, he’s basically telling him “I’m your father”. Interestingly, if you were to go back and watch attack of the clones, the representative for the Banking Clan, allying themselves with Dooku and the separatists, is the same species as Plageus.
2. Despite Anakin losing his limbs, getting burned alive, and getting put in a bulk, painful, mostly robotic iron lung suit, this is not what makes him “weaker”. These are things Vader slowly overcomes. It’s when Palpatinelies to his apprentice about the death of his wife, in the hopes that losing the last of his ties would make him the ultimate Sith apprentice. While we do see for a short amount of time the raw strength of Vader’s rage, this is what ultimately breaks him. It fills him with hate, but instead of using this against everyone and anything around him, he turns against himself. He becomes depressed. Since Sidious is the last connection Vader has, this is why he never goes through taking his place. Thus, Sidious seems Vader a failure and schemes to have him replaced one day. It’s not until Vader learns that the rebel who destroyed the Death Star was his lost child, does he regain some personal motivation and purpose.
3. I always say the conversation Obi-Wan and Anakin have on the river of lava come across as: “You should have told me the Council was plotting to overthrow the Chancellor after Grivous was killed.” Obi-Wan does not deny this. In fact: he justifies this by telling him: “Yo man, he’s evil.” Which is kinda a stupid reason, practically. From the outsider’s perspective: Palpatine helped build an army, win a war, and give the Republic a new sense of purpose. Who cares if he’s evil or a Sith. What even is that?” Obi-Wan knew this is what the council was plotting to do this, or had an idea of this, and kept this from Anakin. Which is the final straw for the man.
The jedi council basically assuming anakin was dangerous or a threat to the jedi and treating him as such, was actually part of the reason he turned to the dark side in the first place. Maybe if the council didn't treat him with such suspicion he would have been loyal to them instead of palpatine. I think this is part of what Yoda is talking about when he says "Failed, I have".
When I was in third grade (1978?) I read that Darth Vader and Ben Kenobi fought on the edge of a volcano and Darth Vader fell in and that is why he had that whole suit and breathing thing. I waited from then until this movie came out to see the scene. (27 years)
Grievous actually has a very tragic story
Basically, before he was a cyborg, he was a Kaleesh warrior (reptilian species). An alien species called the Huk were trying to enslave the Kaleesh people. At the time, Grievous had a girlfriend, who was also a warrior. The Huk killed his girlfriend, and Grievous couldn't even find the body, as it was now in Davy Jones locker. This is when Grievous changed his name to "Grievous" his name before was "Q'yaeunn" or something like that.
Enraged, Grievous made a counter attack to the Huks home planet. Grievous and his warriors were just about to win the war, until the Huk contacted the Jedi. The Jedi's --without looking into the details and the fact that the Huk were the enslavers-- started fighting the Kaleesh. Eventually, the Kaleesh people had to retreat, and got fined by the Republic for the war. Now, the home planet of Kalee had starving Kaleesh people everywhere. They went into extreme poverty. By now Grievous had an extreme hatred for the Jedi.
This is when Count Dooku and Sidious contacted Grievous. The offer was that the CIS would keep the Kaleesh people from dying, and would pay their bills, as long as Grievous was a council member. They saw this as an opportunity to get a great warrior.
Hesitantly, Grievous agreed. Grievous was a council member for a little while, and the Kaleesh people were doing well. After a while, Grievous wanted to quit, as his home planet was doing fine. But Dooku and Sidious couldn't let that happen. They rigged the shuttle that Grievous was gonna use, and rigged it to explode.
Grievous almost died in the explosion, so Dooku gave him cybernetic parts in order to survive. Dooku also told him that the Jedi were the ones who shot down the ship, only fueling Grievous's hatred. Dooku had also added cybernetics to Grievous's brain, making him more loyal to Dooku.
Dooku then taught him how to use lightsabers. Now Grievous was a Jedi killer. He hunted Jedi and took their lightsabers as trophies. He was also a General and commanded the Droid army. Grievous truly had a tragic life.
...and now it's not canon, thanks to Disney(
@@mallus1313 we don't talk about that
@@mallus1313 its still canon until they make a movie or something about it. But that's not going to happen. Besidesn Lair of Grievous hints at that backstory.
I wanted an actual Backstory to GG in Clone Wars, wish they do it someday in some special or mini-series - that is if Disney want to.
@@mallus1313
If the legend of Hercules stays the same regardless of a bad Disney movie, than so does StarWars
Need to watch Rogue One immediately after this to get some hope back in your heart after this tragedy.
@Darkstar the last word of the movie gives everyone hope.
I’d recommend watching Team Starkid’s Ani instead lol
SOLO is set before Rogue One as Rogue One is set directly before Episode 4 and there is around 18 to 19 years between Episode 3 and 4
I'd recommend just watching ANH
Should watch ROTJ to see the end of Vader and the Empire, not the beginning of it. I don't understand why people don't get that the prequels are back story, and you don't end on the back story.
Rogue 1 is amazing and ties thr prequels to the original trilogy! I highly recommend watching it? It is one of my favorites!
The soldiers are clones of Jango Fett.
Anakin was more upset about not being granted the title of Master Jedi because as a Master he would have access to books that would have shown him more about the force. He thought the books had info on how he could save Padme.
You should really get into the clone wars animated series in the future. Really fleshes out the time between 2-3. And yes, that was “Jango.” They are clones of him after all. You’ll get to know more of Clone Troopers in the series as well.
She should have knew if she paid attention in attack of the clones
Padme also does alot more in the Clone Wars show along with Dooku. Order 66 and the clones are super fleshed out as well. Its more heartbreaking then brutal once you watch the show.
The Clone Wars series is beyond Amazing.
I don't think the Sith can influence dreams. I've always believed that Anakin was having his own dream, but Palpatine was able to sense Anakin's desperation.
There is the CloneWars (2003) cartoon mini-series (Volume I+II) that was supposed to be watched between episode II and III. It makes a lot of things more clear in episode III.
The later 7-season CloneWars CGI series does a similar job, but tells a somewhat different story.
Don't even bother watching Disney StarWars episode VII to IX or Solo.
(RogueOne is good though).
Hayden took so much detail from James Earl Jones voice of Vader, the way he pronounces things like "my master" it just rolls off his lips perfectly, and he took those movements from the late great David Prowse that was the physical body of Vader in the original movies
Daaaaamn you guys even caught the immaculate conception thing. Yeah, it’s speculated (maybe even outright stated in books that might not be canon anymore) that Plaguis and Sidious were messing with the force in ways that actually made the Force react, thus creating Anakin. He’s like the universe creating an antibody to rectify a huge imbalance of power.
Man the bible would be so much more interesting if Jesus went to the dark side.
Hayden nailed this role I don’t care what anyone says
Agreed perfect anakin
Lol
The very reason that the clone troops could be "programmed" to execute secret orders, is also the reason the emperor scraps the clone program and recruit storm troops instead.
Yes "recruit"
Clones and stormtroopers are not the same, most storm troopers were recruited as the Empire canceled the clone project.
Yes "recruited" lol more like conscripted.
When someone is burned alive oftentimes one of the first things to happen is severe damage to the lungs due to the inhalation of hot gasses. According to Wikipedia. The breathing apparatus would have definitely been necessary.
When you realize that Darth Sidious orchestrated both sides of the Clone Wars, and engineered an army with genetic programming predisposed to eradication of all of his enemies. He is truly insidious.
Also, I'll add in some clarity. This isn't like Expanded Universe, it comes from the novelization... So Anakin is having the death dreams. He researches that there may be the info he needs to save Padme in the Jedi Archives in these storage devices called holocrons. They even have a few Sith holocrons. However, to get to the deep arcane holocrons and Sith ones, you have to be a Master. So when Palpatine put him on the Council, Anakin thinks he has soled his issue. But when Mace tells him he's on the Council but not a Master, that's why he's mad and frustrated. It's not cause he wants power or to just be a Master. It creates another wedge in that the Jedi just keep roadblocking him. Palpatine keeps offering him solutions, the Jedi blocking.
Oh and think of Grevious as a Vader prototype. He was an alien and is now a cyborg, so sort of Beta test Vader. He is coughing to show he's organic and not a battle droid, but in the Clone Wars animated, Mace and him fight and Mace crushes his lungs and damages him, hence the cough.
It's really irritating how there's so much stuff from the EU in general and even just the movie novelizations that makes the prequel's story so much better/more interesting that just wasn't included in the actual movies.
The order 66 scene feels even more sad and shocking after watching the "Clone Wars" series because they develop the clones and the relationships they have created with the Jedi over the years.
where's your other Star Wars reaction videos?
17:30 I think the emperor guy siphoned her life force to bring anakin back from the brink of death, ultimately killing her.
Lucas himself confirmed there was only really one alternate course of events that could have saved Anakin. That is if Qui Gon had lived. He doesn’t elaborate passed that, except to say, that that’s why the song is called Duel of the Fates when they fight Darth Maul, because Anakin’s fate was literally in the balance. My interpretation of it is thar Anakin, as an older child with connections to his mother and the need for relationships, was different than the other students who are taken as infants and raised in the temple. For him to properly develop, he needed a deeper connection in his life and he needed someone who would not ALWAYS follow the rules. Qui Gon was a little bit of a rebel Jedi. He didn’t always follow the code, because he knew that out in the real world, you had to react to the Force in the moment. He would have been capable of reading Anakin, catering his learning to his needs, perhaps even rescuing his mother and even helping him balance his love and relationship with Padme with his place as a Jedi.
So no, Padme was never gonna bring Anakin back to the light, whether Obi Wan was with him or not.
I agree. In a way, Qui Gon would have been a good father figure. Unfortunately, he got the bad father figure in Sidious. Both trilogies are about father son relationship really. In one the son saves the father, and in the other the father dooms the son. Obi Wan, bless him, tried, but he was an elder brother, not a father. A fatherly one, but still...
I always loved in fact how Lucas mirrors the transformation. In Jedi the son is laying on the floor begging his father to save him, and Anakin does, saving his own soul in the process. While here, Sidious is the one lying on the floor begging to be saved, and Anakin dooms himself by doing so.
Lucas likes his “rhyming” thematic elements. Lol. The moments do echo each other, but I always like to point out that Anakin’s doesn’t fall because of his attachments. He falls because he gets obsessive and possessive. By contrast, Luke is grounded by his attachments, but he’s so selfless that he puts everyone above himself and so makes better decisions ultimately. It is, in fact, Anakin’s attachments that eventually save him. Without them, he’s unlikely to make the decision to help Luke in ROTJ.
@@Dacre1000 ultimately I tend to interpret the two trilogies as “this is how attachment can destroy you” and “this is how attachment can save you”. I always kind of hated the whole “Jedi are sexless monks who can’t have families thing. It bothered me that Star Wars characterizes deep emotional connection as a gateway drug to the dark side, and it reminds me of the people I’ve known who have maintained healthy relationships vs the ones who become codependent and obsessive. I’m a big fan of the old novels that came out prior to the prequels and the concept of the celibate Jedi. I watched Luke get married and have a kid and even when tragedy struck, he maintained his goodness despite wanting to succumb to rage and anger because he used good psychological coping mechanisms. To me the image of Anakin embraced by the light can only be read as an example of positive attachment and the selflessness of real love (father/son) vs the twisted and possessive version he engaged in with Padme.
Personally, I really like the Clone Wars series, which takes place in the period between episode 2 and episode 3 of the movies, because it really develop better the "terrain" for Revenge of the Sith. I would recommend you watch it sometime.
For all the hatred Anakin feels, it's mostly directed at himself. He betrayed his fellow Jedi, the man who he considered brother and father all for the woman he loved and in the end. . .it was all for nothing. That's what he sees and that is why it is so easy for Palpatine to control him now, because Vader believes there's nothing left for him in the galaxy.
Which is why I HATED how he was depicted in Rogue One, telling dad-jokes like he was having fun being a tortured cyborg wallowing in regret and pain.
Fun fact *(sorta spoilers for I think maybe parts of Clone Wars, and Bad Batch, can't remember)*
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The storm troopers aren't actually the clones! The clones were phased out at some point in the Empire's life in favor of volunteers from the general public. So the reason they can't ever aim properly (besides plot armor) is the Empire's training programs must really suck, lol
If you really wanna understand more you should read the books on Plagueis, it is a very good read and gives a lot of backstory to Palpatine. As much of a villain as he is, once you read that book you understand how badass Palpatine is, but he was PURE EVIL at a very young age. To turn Palpatine to the darkside was quite easy for Plagueis.
Palpatin is a very long and good "friend" to Anakin (in his perspective). I think Anakin told him about Padme being his wife and much more.
“I’m curious what happened between Anakin and Obi-Wan, for Anakin to trust the Chancellor like that.”
Here’s what I’ll say to that-Anakin and Obi-Wan’s relationship was complicated, and there were some things Anakin couldn’t trust Obi-Wan with, which he highly likely told Palpatine. Palpatine knew Anakin just as long as Obi-Wan did, and he played the father figure role to perfection. Tbh, the only Jedi who would’ve been equipped to train Anakin in the way he needed …was Qui-Gon.
Jedi were pretty much raised at a very young age-younger than Anakin was when he met Qui-Gon. That’s because younglings haven’t fully developed emotional attachments to their families and loved ones, so it’s easier for them to not hold onto those they’re taken away from.
Qui-Gon understood that emotions - both negative and positive - were natural and healthy-a sentiment most Jedi did not agree with. This was a major reason why Qui-Gon never made it to the High Council. There’s moments in The Phantom Menace where Obi-Wan didn’t agree with Qui-Gon’s stances, as Obi-Wan had mostly adhered to the Jedi’s way of life.
That’s why Qui-Gon’s death was so impactful. Only Qui-Gon would’ve helped Anakin navigate his emotions and transition into Jedi way of life. Up until the Duel with Maul, Obi-Wan didn’t trust Anakin and honestly agreed with the High Council as to why Anakin shouldn’t have been trained. So in some ways, Anakin wasn’t lying in Episode II when he said Obi-Wan was holding him back… because you can argued he definitely did. Obi-Wan only took on that responsibility out of respect to Qui-Gon’s memory. Anakin’s future as Vader was sealed the moment Maul plunged that lightsaber in Qui-Gon’s stomach, hence “Duel of the Fates”.
It wasn't Clones fault, all those poor Clones :(
@Darkstar how could they choose not the follow order 66 we didn't see anything like that if you talk about Rex i think it was about Fives telling him about the chips
@Darkstar im guessing you didn't ACTUALLY watch clone wars😂🤷🏾♀️
Oh, c'mon! I can't be the only living soul *on the planet* who actually *LOVES* The Phantom Menace.
Can I??? 🥺
It has Liam Neeson in it. That is not a bad thing.
I love it too.
The Gungans and Nemoidians definitely got on my nerves by the end. But yeah, everything else I love. Seeing Anakin as a slave, the podrace, him blowing up the main ship, the Duel of the Fates fight. Seeing the council and the political system that they had before the Empire.
You are not alone. I personally cringed from all the bad press the prequels got, and felt bad for George Lucas. He worked so hard to bring the movies back and everybody hated on him.
How do y'all feel now that it is in the hands of Disney?! Bet the prequels look pretty great now, huh?
You are not. I loved TPM. I wouldn’t be a Star Wars fan without the Prequel Era.
I think you are spot on with your immaculate conception theory. It also ties into a theory I heard that the Sith cant actually create life, only transfer it. So Padme was killed because the emperor was pulling her life to save Vader. Some poor person also died to create Anikin.
i don't think she lost the will to live. the emperor used the force to take her life and and transfer it to the dying vader. that's what i think
In an older draft of the movie, it confirmed that palpatine and plagueis did create anakin, but George Lucas removed it cause he wanted to leave some matters ambiguous for fans to decide
I guess that could be possible but it doesn't track with Anakin being the chosen one who brings balance to the force, which was confirmed later.
Also padme couldve died from an actual condition, i forget the name. But the heartstrings that control ur valves and snap from extreme stress. Maybe when ani choked her after her relaizing that the love of her life isnt himself anymore, her heart probably couldnt handle the stress from also being choke by her soulmate.
where can i find the previous star wars reactions???
I'm sure that this is answered in one of the 379 comments that already exist, but I am too lazy to check:
Vader does mean Father in Dutch, but it's 100% a coincidence for it's use in the movies.
Padme wouldnt have talked Anakin down on Mustafar.
At that point he was drunk on the power the dark side promised.
where are all the other star wars reactions? patreon?
The fact that some clones didnt know what they did. Some had breakdowns after, i heard some s*cid*s. And some clones just went along becuase they still have to serve there new emperor and y had to evolve or be killed. Clones had it so bad, and george lucas gives interesting morales about clones. Ewan mcgregor is in an ok movie abojt clones and the morals about them, called the island.
Cake? such nonsense. Everyone knows the dark side doesn't have cake, it has cookies :v
The Darth Plagues thing is just a Deus Ex Machina. George needed a way to entice Anakin to the Dark side so Sidious just happens to know the techniques of Plagues to tempt Anakin, cause Anakins biggest fear is LOSING those he loves, his Mother and now possibly Padme. Also if you listen to the part where Sidious says Plagues is killed by his apprentice and it was ironic cause of Plagues powers thats becuase Sidious was Plagues apprentice, hence how he knows about the power to save others.
Also the Opera Scene is considered the BEST scene of the Prequels. Yeah its not action or about the main characters journey but it expands upon the lore and abilities of the Force and the Sith in the Star Wars universe.
Why were the other Star Wars videos taken down, seems alot from your channel is missing. 😮💨
Plagueis was experimenting around with using the Force to extend his own life, and created Anakin as a side effect. When Palpatine killed Plagueis, he was aware of Anakin's existence and actively groomed him to become his future apprentice. Poor kid was literally born to be a tool of the Sith. In regards to your, "what if?' scenario, the real question is what would have happened had Anakin's apprentice not been expelled from the Jedi Order. In between episodes 2 and 3 he had an apprentice that fought with him during the Clone Wars and functioned as sort of a voice of reason and conscience.
[>>SPOILERS below for "The Clone Wars," "Rebels" and "The Mandalorian" television shows
I know I'm months late but I hope they watch Clone Wars and Rebels!
The animated series are really good at filling in the gaps and timelines......they are really good too😊
The 2003 micro series. TCW is filler with Ahsoka in the middle, in fact, it is the Ahsoka show
@@wolfpredator1000 TCW may be a bigger time investment than 2003 CW but it is a lot more than just filler. It develops the friendship between Anakin and Obi-Wan much more than the movies. It makes Anakin's fall to the dark side a lot more believable as the jedi council screws over both him and his padawan. It gives the clones and the jedi a lot more personality and gives the clones a reason for executing order 66 without question, which makes it even more tragic. It gives more screen time to Dooku and Grievous and shows the power gap between Dooku and Anakin slowly closing. It shows the political manipulations by Palpatine to gain more power and slowly turn the republic into the empire. It introduces a new protagonist (Ahsoka) and new antagonists like Darth Maul who have great story arcs of their own. It first introduces the Mandalorians and thus laid the groundwork for The Mandalorian.
I have nothing against 2003 CW. It is great in its own right. But TCW did so much world building and character development that it really enhances the prequels and Star Wars in general. I'd argue that TCW is some of the best Star Wars content out there.
@@maltemartin4580 The clones are clones, not your friends, you think an endless war for three years gives people "personality"? That adds no tragedy, that's just for emotional fragile fans who can't take cold blood betrayal. The Obi-Wan/Anakin friendship happens nowhere in the show, they barely are together in every season. Anakin felt to the dark side to save Padme. not because of the order, in fact that takes away the drastic decision that Anakin made on his own. Grievous fails at everything he does. It never shows how Palpatine gains power because of one scene where Padme turns the senate to HER side, so save the lies.
Ahsoka has nothing going on on her own besides getting her feelings hurt by the order not trusting her, and Maul's arc serves no purpose to the overall story, that's just random filler that will make no difference if it was deleted.
It doesn't introduce the mandalorians first, you amateur.
TCW only makes the galactic republic seem like a few random villages per planet instead of massive cities to make it actually look believable.
@@wolfpredator1000 No need to be so offensive. I view almost all your points completely differently but you seem to be very emotional about TCW so I won't be able to convince you. So let's just agree to disagree, ok?
@@maltemartin4580 Let me tell you something about TCW, when it is not a pointless arc like a bunch of astrodroids getting back a memory card from the separatists that is never mentioned again in the entire series and you never find a single trail of use either, it is a complete incoherence about the character like Obi-Wan and Anakin working together with Dooku to escape a few pirates instead of having the priority to kill Dooku right there to end the clone wars. That's how ridiculous TCW is. You think I'm emotional when you can't bare the fact that the cliché soldiers the clones were turned into with their sense of democracy and all that can't be just as the Kaminoans created them and act like sociopaths? Give me a break
Palpatine/Plageuis created Anakin. Palpatine had been grooming and influencing Anakin. Influencing his dreams, psychology. Likely influenced helping the sand people kill his Mother. Palpatine is pure evil and the puppet master. He pulls all the strings.
About Padme doing a lot more, a lot of deleted scenes shows her, along with a younger Senator Mon Mothma (whom we see as the prime leader of the Rebel Alliance in Episode VI), laying foundations to what would eventually become the Rebel Alliance in the Original Trilogy. You could find those clips here in the Tube.
Sad how much you guys cut out. The whole intro battle was skipped completely for example. :(
Storm troopers are not the same as clone troopers
You need to watch Clone Wars.
The reason on what Padme fue, Is because Lord Sidious can't create life, just "transform" energy.
So, Sidious "take" Padme's life to save Vader, because Anakin die.
Just think how many decades of suffering and death could have been prevented if Obi-wan had been a bro and put Vader out of his misery. Wtf kind of person just leaves somebody to suffer like that, even if they are an enemy or someone who betrayed you?
25:15 "Star Wars: Infinities" was a series of comics that spin out very different chains of events in each film, following a single change in the plot. In "A New Hope" Luke's torpedoes fail to destroy the Death Star. In "The Empire Strikes Back" Luke dies in the blizzard on Hoth and Leia ends up training under Yoda. In "Return of the Jedi" that pretty convoluted plan to rescue Han from Jabba's palace goes wrong.
The Clone Wars [animated series] explains about General Grievous - he is a cyborg - mostly machine but he started off as a warrior who chose to be "augmented".
just me i guess from freinmds i talked too, but i love hopw they show yoda, this 800 year old powerhouse get his ass beat but the EMPORER. if yoda from the OT was so badass and 800 yo how did he not stop sidous and save the replic. well EP 3 showed he tried at the last moment and Obiwan wan and ruined the chosen one while yoda lost.
Vader got to become a force ghost because he redeemed himself in the last 5 minutes of his life.... unlike Qui-Gon Jinn who was cremated and never seen again.
I don't think much would have changed if Obi-Wan hadn't shown up there. Honestly, I already think it would be very difficult for Anakin to change his mind at that end because he was already very paranoid and fallen to the dark side, I think it would be much more likely that he would try to force Padme to join his new empire.
But even assuming Padme managed this, if Obi-Wan hadn't shown up, the whole republic would still have gone to hell and over 90% of the Jedi exterminated at that point. The existence of the Empire and the return of Sith oppression was already a reality at that point, the only thing that would change is that Anakin would run away from his crimes and hide in some corner of the galaxy (Of course, in this scenario the Empire would lose a strong ally, which would be Darth Vader, but I don't think this improves the situation that much tbh. And I think Palpatine would have moved his ass to find a new apprentice somewhere, probably not as strong as Vader, but someone who would still fill that empty space he would leave in the Empire).
17:40 - was this Palpatine’s way of sating Bros before Hoes?
"The Clone Wars" - Season 7, Episodes 9 -12 (last 4 eps of series), mirrors the same time as the "Order 66" moments from this film. Really amazing additional perspective to the same time frame. Annakin and Darth Vader included, along with Obi Wan. Would highly recommend those 4 episodes.
I believe the Sith names went like this:
- Originally George creates a story with lots of background details to give it a rich palette from which he can draw to create at least one, hopefully three, movies
- Those background details are in a constant state of flux as the story grows and he, being the ultimate decision-maker about that universe, decides what makes it better or worse - an example being that Luke was originally called Luke Starkiller, not Skywalker.
- when he named the main villain from the original Star Wars movie, he decided on Darth Vader as a quasi-Dark Father inference. This served the original purpose well enough. I believe that in Dutch the wording is pretty close.
- Later, when he decided to create the Prequels, there were many things he had to give meaning to. At that point we know that he decides to imply that ‘Darth’ is a Sith title, like Padawan of Master is for Jedi. So then, when naming Palpatine’s Sith persona, he plays with dropping the ‘In’ from Invader and Insidious - why else would the word Sidious be used.
I’m aware that Maul, Tyranus, and Plagueis don’t fit this, nor does Revan or some others from the EU, but Invader vs Insidious is just too obvious to be a coincidence. It might not have been George’s original intention in the mid-70s, but it definitely had to have formed his decision for the Prequels.
You need to watch rouge one it has the best Darth Vader scene ever
Rouge One… My favorite shade of lipstick…
Yeah just spoil it for them
It's important to note that the Clone Troopers are not the same as the Stormtroopers. They are the predecessors of Stormtroopers and their armor is designed to look similar, but they're not the same thing. The Clone Wars and The Bad Batch TV show's go into more detail with that.
Simone and George looked straight up horrified when Anakin lost his limbs, eyes turned yellow, screamed “I HATE YOU!”, and then bursted into flames being consumed by evil. That scene left me traumatized.
I think my favourite Easter egg in this is the E.T. aliens in the senate scene. Lucas and Speilburg have always been good friends, so this was probably a nod to the Yoda part in E.T. It’s a loose connection, but it’s still there.
I forget if I said it before, but now you’ve gotten through Episodes 1 - 6, I recommend checking out Ani by Team Starkid. It’s on their UA-cam channel. It’s set a bit before Episode 4 and it’s about how Darth Vader is feeling down, so he decides to get back into pod racing lol. It’s a fun comedy with some cool songs and dance numbers… Oh and lots of Star Wars jokes! Obi Wan is hilarious! And they might even make Jar Jar a good character…
I heard a theory about Padme dying and it was because the Emperor channeled her lifeforce in to Anakin to save him
Yeah, which maybe is the power Plaguis had, and a power one more Palpatine has in another movie...
It's a stupid theory because if Palpatine is able to do that, why doesn't he sense Luke and Leia?
Why doesn't he remote-kill Luke after episode 4?
General Grievous was not a droid, rather he was a cyborg, part machine, part alien. In the Clone Wars cartoon there is an episode where the General meets Mace Windu. Mace forces him to flee, but before he can get away, Mace uses the Force to partialy crush his chest, damaging his lungs, hence the cough.
Edit: Mace Windu did not die at the end of the fight with Sidius. He jumped from the window.
Edit 2: in Padmes death scene, listen closely to the background noises...there is a heartbeat sound...the same is true of the Vader reconstruction scene...but the beats are out of sync...at first. Sidious used Padmes life force to try and save Vader, who's damage was so great that even with all that was done to save him, he was still dieing. Padmes life force was still not enough (and she dies, so Sidious wasn'treally lieing, Anikin did kill her, in a way), so Sidious ends up tying Vaders life force to his own. That was why Sidious' death in Jedi sealed his fate, and he tells Luke 'it's too late for me now.'
So where are the reviews for the other two prequels?
Well, Anakin had been put into fucked up war when he was 16, was made a general, had to kill people, had to decide on the live and death of his own people durng the war. All of that while the Jedi Council told him that he has to forget all the human emotions and be a buddhist monk basically. No wander he killed Duku and no wander he took the path of Vader eventually.
I think Palpatine is responsible for Padmé dying and that's why the droids can't figure out why they're losing her. It's implied that Palpatine manipulated Anakin's nightmares and hired Tusken Raiders to torture his mom as well. Palpatine had it all planned out for years.
i love how they able to bring back the OG acotors for alot of this movie. the empore is the OG actor from EP 6
Nice Eddie Izzard reference!!!
Just think if the Galactic Empire was created by Clones turning up planets & asking ‘Do you have a flag’?
Fun Fact: Nick Gillard who was stunt coordinator on the prequels stated in an interview that the slaughter of the younglings was actually filmed & was apparently brutal. Upon seeing the dailies Lucas just said ‘Oh god’ in horror of what he saw. The only part of the sequence that remains, is the security footage Obi Wan watches.
Yes, in an earlier draft of the script, Lucas made it much more clear that Palpatine had indeed caused Anakin's conception via the midichlorians. I guess he back-pedalled a bit because the story already had enough plot going on. He did still have Palpatine refer to Anakin as "son," though...
Actually, the origin of Stormtroopers can be seen in the animated series The Bad Batch. But you should watch The Clone Wars series first.
Pre-disney canon... there were about a dozen chances in this movie where Anakin wouldn't have fallen or turned back good. Making him a master instead of being petty, Anakin wouldn't fall. the Jedi finding out Anakin is having dreams about Padme's death and that's why he's desperate, Anakin wouldn't fall. Obi-Wan being on Coruscant when Anakin told the Council Sidious was Palpatine, Anakin wouldn't have fallen. Obi-Wan would either have kept him at the Temple or been with Windu, Palpatine wouldn't have lasted against them. And if he did, Obi-Wan could've kept Anakin in check while Palpatine was killed. Lot of chances. Sidious turned him because he made himself Anakin's only option.
Does anyone know if they reacted to the other Star Wars movies besides rogue one? I can’t find them but from what they said it sounds like they might of. Maybe they got taken down because of copyright?
I have a feeling they saw them before starting the channel.
The 2D animated Star Wars show from Cartoon Network, about 2 hours, on Disney+
Explain what happens before Episode 3
Palpatine and Mace Windu both saying “he’s too dangerous to be kept alive” is what convinces Anakin that the Jedi were not as good as they claim to be.
George Lucas said about movies “they are like poetry, they have to rhyme”
You’ll notice a lot of symmetry in his movies.
I feel that if Qui Gon had survived in episode 1, he would have been able to guide Anakin through his emotion. Obi-Wan wasn’t ready to be a master (certainly not the master to the Chosen One) and he tried to be strict like he thought a master should be. Sadly, because of that, Anakin couldn’t open up to him about his feelings for Padme. There’s a line in episode 1 that shows Qui-Gon is used to toe the line of the Jedi code.
Considering Anakin was slaughtering women and children before he even became a jedi,...he wasn't so "good" either.
if anyone else has told you these things....apologies. (hate repeating)
Hayden Christiansen asked (if not begged) to be in the Darth Vader suit. so that's him at the end in the suit.
Obi Wan has three "call back moments" - when he's in the elevator he says, about Anikin jumping out, "always on the move". call back to him on Tatooeen helping Luke up about the Sand people coming back...he says "quickly. they're on the move". when he jumps down to face Grevous he says "hello there". on Tatooeen when her finds Luke on the ground and is checking on him, he hears R2, looks over and says, "hello there". and after he shoots Grevous with the blaster, he looks at it and says "so uncivilized". calling back to when he gives Luke the light saber...he says "not as clumsy or random as a blaster. an elegant weapon....for a more civilized age".
Originally, in Return of the Jedi, Lucas wanted the forrest moon to be full of Wookies. and they were supposed to be the "primitives". but he realized that, with Chewie being as intelligent as he was, the idea of other Wookies being less intelligent wouldn't work. so, since he couldn't have them in battle in that one....he put them in this one.
So you have to remember that Palatine has been manipulating the Jedi, the senate and grooming Anakin for years that's why Anakin trusts him.
Also in the prequels the Republic soldiers are clone troopers, after the end of the Clone Wars they are phased out and replaced by conscripted soldiers (stormtroopers), because cloning is so expensive and the Empire decides there's no need for such a big dedicated army.
Aw - no reaction to The Best Acted Scene Of The Prequels? Such a striking scene.
A few things :
1. Palpatine used the force to steal Padme's life energy to give to Vader so he would live.
2. Palpatine planted the vision of Padme dying into Anakin's head.
3. When Anakin is crying in the Jedi temple ( before he goes to Mace and Palpatine ) it is because he is crying for the things he is going to do. And when he is crying on mustafar ( which stands for Chosen One ) he is crying because of the things he has done including but not limited to killing the younglings.
4. When Anakin kills the younglings , the youngling who said " master Skywalker there are too many of them what are we going to do " was made to resemble a young Anakin Skywalker ( by request of George Lucas ) to show Vader destroying Anakin until Luke helped Anakin destroy Vader at the end of Ep. 6. Also when the youngling stepped back in fear , this is because Hayden Christensen ( Anakin/Vader ) adlibbed the line " boo " to scare him for authenticity.
5. Vader didnt go looking for Luke or Leia because he presumed that the baby/babies died along with Padme.
6. Darth Plagueis is Anakin's father.
7. The original sequence of them ( Anakin + Obi-Wan ) going to rescue the Emperor was initially 1 hour long.
The scene where Obi-Wan beats Anakin and they start yelling at each other is so good. Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen completely sell it. It's heartbreaking to see Obi-Wan's sadness and anger when he tells Anakin that he loved (past tense) him like a brother, and how his love for Anakin meant that he refused to finish him off and it's his fault that Vader survived and did all the horrible crap he did for the next 20 years. Also, earlier when he asks Padme if Anakin is the father of her child and she refuses to answer and he just says "I'm so sorry" and walks away is so good.
Darth Tyrannis (Dooku) provided blood from the frozen body of Jedi Master Sifo-Dyas as a means of keeping Grievous's body alive during his transit to Geonosis, where Poggle the Lesser and his Geonosian scientists implanted his brain and eyes into a duranium alloy body reminiscent of a Krath war droid, complete with LX-44 robotic legs.
Poggle the Lesser :D