WOW totally AWESOME! amazing series, skyhigh is now one of my favorite players. Gotta have a whole team if you wanna win, Oz! Such justice.... this is starcraft!
GLORIOUS Game, I've never seen a TvT that made me choke on my coffee like that - Sweet! Many congratulations to the winner, and thanks to Cholera and Rise for bringing this to us in such an entertaining way - GGs in abundance!
Quite cool of Skyhigh to pwn the Jaedong & Friends team in a big matchup. He showed very good nerves, making ballsy plays in important games. Also, I have to mention that the "Jaedong lost on purpose" opinions are lame and silly. Whereas "Jaedong's team would be nowhere without him" is something that I agree with.
I'm surprised rise and cholera didn't mention hiya's lvl 2 upgrades. I'm actually surprised he didn't win more of the battles simply due to that great play by the winner, awesome finals
Wow, poor Jaedong. He must be thinking "If I only hadn't cheesed and played properly...". Anyway, great game, great commentary. Gratulations to Skyhigh and his team (mainly to Skyhigh) and thanks to Cholera and Rise.
Holy crap, this was REALLY unexpected :O JD almost doing an all kill, getting stopped at the last minute by someone I've never heard of, and the whole team falls. I know that the word is overused to no end, but... This shit really IS epic! :D
No one expected this outcome to occur, not even Jaedong himself, which is why he decided to take it lightly in Game 4. I mean even if he loses, he probably thought his team would eventually get Skyhigh. Hwaseung Oz even though this and sent out two rookies to gain exp to lvl up because they thought they could afford it. Unfortunately for Jaedong and team, Skyhigh blew everyone's expectations well... skyhigh. I commented before that Oz was Jaedong. My statement still stands.
I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned more, but I really think JD 5-pooled because he wanted his team to have a chance to help too. It's not like he totally threw the game, but I think he figured he would go all in and if it worked than great, they win, but if not then his teammates shouldn't have a problem getting ONE win! I think what JD did was good for his team, good for the sport, and good for entertainment. He's probably more frustrated that his team sux than that he lost the 4th game.
yeah he will be fine and i really think he can beat anyone on any map right now and i really think that jaedong himself regret his decision to 5pool that game after his team lost :> that's all im saying. Well obviously props to skyhigh, not everyone can handle that kind of pressure and perform such an epic come-back :) Jaedong will be fine, but i can bet he will remember this particular 5pool for a long time :)
lol after the 3-0 i thought that at least 2 of the remaining vids would be fakes so it would be less than half an hour before i could go to sleep...now getting up is going to be tough next morning. thanks guys^^.
gg and great come back by CJ too bad backho couldnt help out OZ. still pretty funny how out of all the good players on CJ Skyhigh was the one that won it for the team
Apparently a lot of them skip night school to go to these matches and so they don't want their parents to see them on tv when they should be studying. At least that's what Tasteless said.
Spoiler watch out :O ---------- Skyhigh has certainly established himself here, what a well rounded player. HOWEVER i still believe this victory was less from Skyhigh's play (which was quite nice, especially for a "no name" player, I'm pressed) and more because of Jaedong's very unusual 5 pool attempt... Jaedong could probably have won if he played standard, but must feel pretty annoyed being the workhorse for the whole team GG's either way, this match was awesome to watch!
what an incredibly random yet amazing way 2end this series. poor jaedong.. gotta b thinking while hes crying, "i had this fkn series, WHYTF did i 5pool" skyhigh for the all kill. so sick.
yeah i know exactly why he did that, but he knows that if he played a straight up game he would have won also, that's what i meant. I obviously didn't mean it literally that he will never 5pool, but he knows it everyone else knows it "if only i played a normal game" .. he will get over it but all i am saying that his look/face was heartbreaking..
yeah i dont disagree, i'd argue a lot of old schoolers were crazy good TvT, but nowadays? I couldn't think of any off the top of my head. I'd say maybe Leta & Flash, but that's really it.
If you're gonna go all in you gotta go all in. Jaedong would've had a much better shot at winning that match even after the 5-pool if he had kept making lings instead of trying to build an economy. There is no transition from a 5pool into anything else if you don't do significant damage to your opponent, which JD should know.
Grats to CJ and Skyhigh! Skyhigh is my favorite terran. Watch his games vs best in gomtv s2 for some awesome tvp action. I hope OZ is rethinking their strategty for next season. Seriously... Wtf is a player like spear doing in the WL finals.
just a question for you guys, i see in the description of the video that this game has been played this year but are they still full on playing starcraft 1 in korea, as in as much as before because its such an older game now....1998 was a long time ago ....???
Yeah, Flash is the highest ELO rating, with only 2163. Leta, Hwasin and ForGG are the only others above 2100 TvT. To compare, Jaedong ZvZ is (awesome of course) 2328 with 6 players over 2100, and Bisu's PvP is 2232 but only 3 players above 2100. But you're right, these days no one's truly shining TvT, unlike the other mirror matches.
Cmon! Lomo[fou] isn't bad! He's good with wraiths! In my opinion, he could match Hiya in TvT. They also had ForGG who is good, but left for reasons uknown.
He'll be fine, he has lost before and got over it, he will again. But people keep saying "if he played a straight up game, he would have won". Obviously, Jaedong didn't feel that way, so he choose to cheese. It's not sure that he would have won in a straight up game, skyhigh is good and it was a terran favoured map, JD could have lost in a straight up game also. People keep acting like it would have been a garatueed win for him, that's not the case even though he is ranked second in the world.
best tvt game in a long time. excellent series overall
oh my god SO good TvT, one of the best in a loooong while! Awesome set, awesome commentary!
WOW totally AWESOME! amazing series, skyhigh is now one of my favorite players. Gotta have a whole team if you wanna win, Oz! Such justice.... this is starcraft!
Great series, thanks guys. And awsome play from Skyhigh.
Epic Epic match. Best one I've seen so far imo.
this entire set was SO EPIC. HOLY CRAP. this was amazing.
Wow, what a crazy, fun TvT. No inching around the map, sieging and unsieging for hours. What a perfect end to an insane series.
GLORIOUS Game, I've never seen a TvT that made me choke on my coffee like that - Sweet!
Many congratulations to the winner, and thanks to Cholera and Rise for bringing this to us in such an entertaining way - GGs in abundance!
Awesome game and awesome commentary. Thanks!
One of the greatest and most intense TvT ive ever seen
ozzylaza, yes, crazy as it seems, starcraft 1 is still be played professionally and televised in Korea because it is such an awesome game.
CJ ENTUS WINNERSLEAGUE WINNER~~!!🏆✌️💪👏👏
EPIC EPIC EPIC EPIC
With a name like Sky High and game play like that we're definitely gonna see more of him.
wow... epic game, epic series
Quite cool of Skyhigh to pwn the Jaedong & Friends team in a big matchup. He showed very good nerves, making ballsy plays in important games.
Also, I have to mention that the "Jaedong lost on purpose" opinions are lame and silly. Whereas "Jaedong's team would be nowhere without him" is something that I agree with.
New favorite player. Man that guy is good.
Gotta love the new guy.
Why can't all TvT be like this?
Thanks Rise&Cholera :)
Skyhigh is my new favorite player. Just amazing skill he's shown in this series.
thanks for commentating this series guys! :)
Epic and amazing
epimazing?
I can't believe this ...
Amazing game !!
Awesome match
Cholera + Rise ftw :)
great job as always, thanks
I love Destination, that was one of the best games I have ever seen, skyhigh went indeed skyhigh,
I just can't believe how much a team depends on one player
I'm surprised rise and cholera didn't mention hiya's lvl 2 upgrades. I'm actually surprised he didn't win more of the battles simply due to that
great play by the winner, awesome finals
Wow, poor Jaedong.
He must be thinking "If I only hadn't cheesed and played properly...".
Anyway, great game, great commentary.
Gratulations to Skyhigh and his team (mainly to Skyhigh) and thanks to Cholera and Rise.
Amazing multitasking from Skyhigh, we should watch out for this guy.
Awesome game, awesome commentary, awesome excuse to avoid studying! :D
Holy crap, this was REALLY unexpected :O JD almost doing an all kill, getting stopped at the last minute by someone I've never heard of, and the whole team falls.
I know that the word is overused to no end, but... This shit really IS epic! :D
thats a great way to end the winners league play-offs, epic comeback from CJ ohh well epic comeback from skyhigh
According to Tasteless's hypothesis: The death of the pandaman caused the loss for the one that killed it.
brilliant!
holy shit this series was amazing
That was a hilarious commentary game :D Zergbong vs skyhigh... it was a pretty smokey auditorium!
No one expected this outcome to occur, not even Jaedong himself, which is why he decided to take it lightly in Game 4.
I mean even if he loses, he probably thought his team would eventually get Skyhigh. Hwaseung Oz even though this and sent out two rookies to gain exp to lvl up because they thought they could afford it.
Unfortunately for Jaedong and team, Skyhigh blew everyone's expectations well... skyhigh.
I commented before that Oz was Jaedong. My statement still stands.
He's a professional. They're all professionals. Show some respect.
Oh Jesus! What a great game.
I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned more, but I really think JD 5-pooled because he wanted his team to have a chance to help too. It's not like he totally threw the game, but I think he figured he would go all in and if it worked than great, they win, but if not then his teammates shouldn't have a problem getting ONE win! I think what JD did was good for his team, good for the sport, and good for entertainment. He's probably more frustrated that his team sux than that he lost the 4th game.
Amazing reversal by Skyhigh. GG.
I bet the celebration party was as epic as this series.
Nobody mentioned Nal_Ra?!
his face was on camera twice!
AWESOME!
If i was Jaedong I'd be looking for a team change, congratulations to Skyhigh amazing
i felt the result was unfortunate, but this was epic in so many ways
yeah he will be fine and i really think he can beat anyone on any map right now and i really think that jaedong himself regret his decision to 5pool that game after his team lost :> that's all im saying. Well obviously props to skyhigh, not everyone can handle that kind of pressure and perform such an epic come-back :)
Jaedong will be fine, but i can bet he will remember this particular 5pool for a long time :)
SKYHIGH???
Who the hell is this guy!
What amazing play!!
epic series
lol after the 3-0 i thought that at least 2 of the remaining vids would be fakes so it would be less than half an hour before i could go to sleep...now getting up is going to be tough next morning. thanks guys^^.
skyhigh looks so stoic when he plays
Skyhigh truly deserves his name.
FRIKEN AWESOM GAME GG
Jaedong knows how Flash feels now
CJ really has such a deep lineup. t
wow man hes a huge talent :)
orly?
Jaedong is still human. Playing 4 games in a row is mentally and physically exhausting.
I wish nal_ra still plays =(
(he still has the same glasses as before xD)
how does that happen?
gg and great come back by CJ
too bad backho couldnt help out OZ. still pretty funny how out of all the good players on CJ Skyhigh was the one that won it for the team
massive game gg
hiya lost when he killed the panda bear monster, the curse is VERY strong
he payed for not knowing the curse
seeing Jaedong after this match was heartbreaking, man he will NEVER 5pool anyone again :)
Epic win, nice end to the series.
Apparently a lot of them skip night school to go to these matches and so they don't want their parents to see them on tv when they should be studying. At least that's what Tasteless said.
Spoiler watch out :O
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Skyhigh has certainly established himself here, what a well rounded player. HOWEVER i still believe this victory was less from Skyhigh's play (which was quite nice, especially for a "no name" player, I'm pressed) and more because of Jaedong's very unusual 5 pool attempt... Jaedong could probably have won if he played standard, but must feel pretty annoyed being the workhorse for the whole team
GG's either way, this match was awesome to watch!
what an incredibly random yet amazing way 2end this series. poor jaedong.. gotta b thinking while hes crying, "i had this fkn series, WHYTF did i 5pool"
skyhigh for the all kill. so sick.
truely epic
i really dont understand why Oz didnt send out Lomo or BackHo or something instead of spear and young
8:54 NADA!!
yeah i know exactly why he did that, but he knows that if he played a straight up game he would have won also, that's what i meant. I obviously didn't mean it literally that he will never 5pool, but he knows it everyone else knows it "if only i played a normal game" .. he will get over it but all i am saying that his look/face was heartbreaking..
the new curse of pro starcraft is killing innocent critters
yeah i dont disagree, i'd argue a lot of old schoolers were crazy good TvT, but nowadays? I couldn't think of any off the top of my head. I'd say maybe Leta & Flash, but that's really it.
I'm not a big fan of Jaedong but I think he should just move to another team, is that posible?
if only they still had anytime
Wow!!!! Jaedong must be pissed off. It's like he's the only competent player on their team.
Best TvT ever.
If you're gonna go all in you gotta go all in. Jaedong would've had a much better shot at winning that match even after the 5-pool if he had kept making lings instead of trying to build an economy. There is no transition from a 5pool into anything else if you don't do significant damage to your opponent, which JD should know.
I have a feeling that Jaedong threw his game in order to prolong the series.
But who knows. Great game by the winner.
hiya looked like he was about to pull a by_baby
Probably, but I don't think it destroyed JD's confidence to the extend where is going to start loosing.
cloaked dropships would be scary
Grats to CJ and Skyhigh!
Skyhigh is my favorite terran. Watch his games vs best in gomtv s2 for some awesome tvp action.
I hope OZ is rethinking their strategty for next season. Seriously... Wtf is a player like spear doing in the WL finals.
Who uploaded this, I had no idea what was game it was until the video started.
SICK
oh my god.. what the heck just happened
anyone got timestamps for nal_ra's face?
That was EPIC!
OZ's stat in the proleague playoff:
Jaedong: 7-1
Others: 0-3
just a question for you guys, i see in the description of the video that this game has been played this year but are they still full on playing starcraft 1 in korea, as in as much as before because its such an older game now....1998 was a long time ago ....???
they skip school to watch so they dont want to get caught on live tv.
so is WL over? what is the grand final?
what game is this
Man epic game. GG indeed.
Jaedong's face looks like he wants to pwn people really hard at team practice.
Yeah, Flash is the highest ELO rating, with only 2163. Leta, Hwasin and ForGG are the only others above 2100 TvT.
To compare, Jaedong ZvZ is (awesome of course) 2328 with 6 players over 2100, and Bisu's PvP is 2232 but only 3 players above 2100.
But you're right, these days no one's truly shining TvT, unlike the other mirror matches.
why is the video quality bad on HQ? -_-
Cmon! Lomo[fou] isn't bad! He's good with wraiths! In my opinion, he could match Hiya in TvT. They also had ForGG who is good, but left for reasons uknown.
they tried to use map statistics (read: imbalances) to their advantage... it didn't work obviously.
He'll be fine, he has lost before and got over it, he will again. But people keep saying "if he played a straight up game, he would have won". Obviously, Jaedong didn't feel that way, so he choose to cheese. It's not sure that he would have won in a straight up game, skyhigh is good and it was a terran favoured map, JD could have lost in a straight up game also.
People keep acting like it would have been a garatueed win for him, that's not the case even though he is ranked second in the world.
TANK BOMB!!!
Skyhigh new pwnage Terran? Hell yes.