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I must say that you understood Romanian plight in WWII far better than many Western historians of recent times.
Great video reaction , 4.5 milion troups invaded the soviet Union ,3 milion were germans. 900 000 romanians and the rest finnish , hungarians , italians, Slovacs and the blue divizion that were spanish volunters.
Here are some details that the video doesn't cover:
1) During WW1, Romania sent their national treasure and gold reserves to Russia to protect from invading Germans. Tons of gold, jewels, paintings, and others Valuables were sent to Russia just before the Communists took over.
The Communists refuse to send the treasure back effectively, making the largest theft of treasure and culture in that part of the century.
So the troops were motivated to get there, find their treasure, and send it back home.
2) Romanians knew better than any Latin country how ruthless and oppressive the Communists were because of their oppressive leading of Ukraine and Poland. So Russia was seen as just a big a threat if not more so that Germans.
3) Romania sent a lot of Jewish people to those camps but it also sent equal numbers of Roma or gypsies to those camps too.
That is some of the least known facts: that Eastern Europe had a lot of gypsies and sent them those camps too or more so...
4) Romania has always been surrounded by empires, and so it knows that it can only show loyalty to itself because whatever you do, you still end up on someone's enemy list.
5) Also, for all his promises, Germans didn't return Northern Transylvania and didn't push the Hungarians to send more tropes to the front either. Instead the Germans wanted to give Romania parts of Ukraine and Odessa which weren't nearly as rich as Northern Transylvania. (So effectively they broke their promise/pact)
6) It also didn't help that Romania found out about the Pact with the Russians to divide Romania, which led to Romania getting in the war.
7) Finally, the Axis could have sent more troops to suport Romania's defense but it looked like every country was bracing for the defense of their own countries (Hungary reinforced its defenses, Bulgaria brokered a peace with the Communists) leaving Romania alone as canon fodder for the communist tanks.
With all these betrayals and sacrifices is it any wonder why Romania did what it did? It could have done better, but it tasted the cool aid. I didn't like it but didn't spit it out. Instead, Romania chugged it all and then had to pay for it.
My grandpa died in the Stalingrad battle , I have two photos of him, one in my parent's house, and one on his grave😢
Not only was France invaded in 1940, a lot of neutral countries were as well. Denmark, Norway, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Belgium. So yeah, at that point neutral was not a good place to be either.
The majority of Romanian politicians did not agree with the continuation of the war against the USSR beyond the borders of Bessarabia, but they no longer had any power. Romania was able to return its weapons for two reasons: people did not agree with the continuation of the war outside of Bessarabia, and, after so many losses, the army listened rather to King Mihai and not to General Antonescu.
Romania did not end WWI with military defeats. At the beginning of the war, it lost battles and territories, especially to the German army. But then, with French help, Romnia managed to stop the German army and inflict some defeats on it. Bolshevik Russia, however, abandoned the entire eastern front (millions of soldiers) and Romania was left alone in front of Germany and the Austrian Empire, so it had to accept peace under unfavorable conditions.
All that is what my father escaped. His family got letters through once he arrived in England. They advised him to settle and not attempt to come back.
It was an election poster for the Goga-Cuza party, Octavian Goga was one of the biggest poets of Romania, and Cuza was teacher at University of Iași, The city where Iron Guard was born, Cuza was the teacher of Corneliu Zelea Codreanu, the founder of Iron Guard
The USSR was very powerful thanks to its seemingly endless manpower aswell as Stalin's doctrine of victory at all costs. If we remove the allied aid to the soviets they could be defeated if the germans had taken the Caucasus oil fields aswell as key cities like Stalingrad, Leningrad and Moscow. We can only speculate if the soviets hold out without western support but that was the plan to defeat the soviet union
BULLSH1T!!! This is the new western propaganda! The western aid was given BECAUSE THEY KNOW without Russia THEY WILL ALSO FALL!!!!!
10:33 you know, it's kinda funny, because deep diving the whole affair, not just the WW2 position, justifies the Romanian's view. Especially when you start reading post WW2, the Allies wiping their hands of Eastern Europe, but in particular Romania... while sustaining a VERY spicy government in Greece (as a counterbalance).
When the Russian army was nearing the Romanian borders Antonescu had a plan. He understood that the war was lost and decided to make a defensive line at Iasi to stop the Russian advance towards Berlin. At that point there was a race between the Russians and the American/ British coalition forces to reach Germany and Berlin. So the Romanian army lead by Antonescu began diging up fortifications and preparing to stop the Russian advance in an atempt to secure a favorable exit from the war wich would allow us to keep Basarabia and Transilvania . Both territories had a majority Romanian population (estimates vary from as low as 70% ethnic Romanians to as high as 87%). However, king Michael betrayed Antonescu, arrested him and delivered him to the Romanian communist party which in turn delivered him to Moscow. The result of the kings betrayal greatly contributed to the aftermath of the war when over 1 million Romanians were deported to Siberia (Norten Russia) in force labor camps never to return again or starved to death under Russian ocupation. But as always this genocide was forgotten by the history.
Democratic Kingdom of Yugoslavia 1919-1941. Communist Federal Yugoslavia 1945-1991.
Technically Yugoslavia existed until 2003, although it was just Serbia and Montenegro.
@@mixlllllll I mean, yeah. Strictly speaking you are right but as you said, that Federal Republic Yugoslavia was literally Serbia + Montenegro.
Awesome video. My grandfather was involved in many of those battles. And survived. He went out to ship people out of encirclement, then was bombed at sea between Crimea and Romania territory. Survived after floating 3 days at sea. And he was only 16 then! There were a lot of stories about changing sides - even the communists told us their story (where King Michael was not involved, because why not forger history). I grew up with the story that invading USSR was a great mistake but then turning to the good side was a good choice. Heh. We had Star Wars before it was even a thing.
Liberté, égalité, fraternité or liberty equality fraternity is the national motto of France, its also on the book the statue of liberty is holding
sounds gay
@@fyrdman2185 well to be fair it is French so probably
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Doubtful perspective about Romania's participation in the Second World War... In reality, in Odessa, even if there was a pogrom against the Jews, the occupation was quite lax compared to all German occupied territories. All the cultural institutions were reopened, from the cinemas to the opera there, the hospitals were functioning and most importantly the market economy, forbidden by the Bolsheviks, was allowed to function, a lot of small craftsmen and traders appeared, there was even some economic development in compared to the Soviet period. So the Romanians had few problems with the so-called "Soviet partisan resistance" which after the attack on the command of the Romanian army and which was the reason for the pogrom disappeared, leaving only a few who retreated into the catacombs and who were neutralized purely and simply by welding the drain covers.
20:49 That's the only way they could have succeeded. They would have lost otherwise.
Between June 1941 and May 1945, Britain delivered to the USSR:
7,411 aircraft (>3,000 Hurricanes and >4,000 other aircraft)
27 naval vessels
5,218 tanks (including 1,380 Valentines from Canada)
>5,000 anti-tank guns
4,020 ambulances and trucks
323 machinery trucks (mobile vehicle workshops equipped with generators and all the welding and power tools required to perform heavy servicing)
1,212 Universal Carriers and Loyd Carriers (with another 1,348 from Canada)
1,721 motorcycles
£1.15bn ($1.55bn) worth of aircraft engines
1,474 radar sets
4,338 radio sets
600 naval radar and sonar sets
Hundreds of naval guns
15 million pairs of boots
USA delivered to the USSR:
400,000 jeeps & trucks
14,000 airplanes
8,000 tractors
13,000 tanks
1.5 million blankets
15 million pairs of army boots
107,000 tons of cotton
2.7 million tons of petrol products
4.5 million tons of food
Yugoslavia effectively existed between about 1920 and 1940 and then again from 1945 to 1995. NB: I see that this video perpetuates the tired old error that Chamberlain proclaimed "peace in our time" in 1938; of course, that phrase meant nothing; Chamberlain actually saidz"peace FOR our time".
Ye, not having a land border with other countries is historically lucky. Speaking from southern Scotland we know about this.
Complicated shit happened man...whilst we hated the soviets, we had to turn arms. It turned out to be a good move, but damn, the shit the Soviet army did in NE Romania...my grandparents had a hard time talking about that, I kind of understood later, as an adult, how hard it must've been for them to think about those times. Men got beaten and humiliated if not outright killed, women would get ra...d , properties vandalized, animals taken. War is horrible and the Soviet army made sure to get remembered.
One off those where my grand grand parents & my granma excape with her siblings in America, Romania to save they re live after they re parents where dead. A lot off small children lost they re parents ( hebrew) 😢😢. My grandmother was lucky to excape but is hard to grow without parents😢
is from france revolution liberte egalite fraternite (freedom, equality, brotherhood)
It's almost impossible to understand the rollercoaster fortunes and capabilities of the USSR in WWII without factoring in Stalin. He had such absolute control of all Soviet society that he was able to, for example, shift major manufacturing and the population to support it beyond the Urals. Stalin can said to have been the most successful dictator of the 20th century, and any talk of the USSR must include him and his decisions.
Libertate means Liberty Egalitate means Egality and Fraternitate isn;t really a word in enghlis but it means like brothership or smt like that
Fraternity is most definitely an English word.
The USSR was not all that unbeatable, and it was only the stupid mistakes of the Germans that led to their failure. It was more likely that Operation Barbarossa would succeed than not. The Soviets were a colossus on legs of clay, capturing Moscow would have cut off the USSR's most important transportation routes and made it possible to capture Stalingrad and Leningrad. Having lost the largest industrial zones that were in these cities, the USSR would have lost the ability to rebuild its army, and then collapsed.
It's just that all this would have had to happen by the end of 1942. After that, support from the U.S. was already too much, and Germany had to fight on two fronts. In that case, they were no longer able to win.
Just capture Moscow lol! It’s only a city of millions, hundreds of miles beyond German supply hubs. German logistics was already at its absolute limit by the time winter came, and they didn’t even reach the defensive lines around the city. The Soviets had British intelligence, infinite oil (both their own, and America’s to make up any shortfall), millions more men to recruit, massive logistical support from Lend-lease (train cars, trucks, food), a military industrial base that was too far away for Germany to target (all while Britain is bombing German production), and could depend upon partisan action behind enemy lines because the Nazis considered all Slavs subhuman. Germany’s war production was an inefficient mess which waited too long to adopt standardized mass production, and their military was internally divided due to domestic power struggles (the Army, SS, navy, and air force all had their own infantry, for example).They sabotaged their own scientific capabilities by targeting Jews, and sacrifices millions of potential recruits in their war against the Soviets by stabbing them in the back for “racial inferiority.” They had fewer tanks than either the Soviets or the Americans, and were fighting them both at the same time, in addition to the British Empire, who had them under complete naval blockade. I could literally list 50 more reasons if this comment wasn’t already too long. They had no chance of winning. None.
@@hyperlinkblocked5659 Yes and the Germans were 30km away from it, and the Land Lease was not yet relevant in 1941 and support didn't start to become noticeable until late 1942/early 1943. Nowhere did I write that Germany had any chance of winning this war as a whole only that they could defeat the USSR.
The Germans lost the battle for Moscow in 1941 not because they were unable to, but because Hitler wanted to encircle Vlasov at Kiev, which was completely unnecessary, created confusion, and which at the same time delayed the assault on Moscow. This gave the Soviets time to dig in and caused them to miss the weather window before the rasputica, which destroyed their logistics. It was not the winter but the mud that stopped the Germans. Winter, on the other hand, gave the USSR time to rebuild its army and counterattack. In the summer and early autumn German logistics were not yet at a tragic level, they were able to send an armored division near Kiev, return and approach Moscow. If they had done this with momentum they would have succeeded in capturing the city.
The moment the U.S. turned on LL for Stalin the Germans lost the opportunity to win the war against the USSR, up to that point they still had it.
You say that like the hardest part wasn’t still ahead of them. Remember what happened at Stalingrad? This isn’t Hoi4. Surrounding a city does not make it fall immediately. They would have to maintain the encirclement for months while fighting off Soviet counterattacks on their flanks, and conducting urban warfare in Moscow proper. Unless you’re suggesting they just leave it under siege like Leningrad for who knows how long, all while they’re on a tight schedule and their window of opportunity is closing.
900 K could be the total number of involved soldiers between 1941 and 1944, not the ones that started the invasion. Romania had many casualties of war in this campaign.
Over 600K casualties. We blaim the Germans for it, because of poor management of our troops în their pursuit for glory. They left us guarding the flanks whith almost no artilery support, no antitank capabilities, very disperse and with very little ammunition. To have an idea, the Romanian soldiers where dispersed being 1 at every 50m away from each other. Once every 2 days, the ammunition would come: 200 bullets and a hadful of grenades for each soldier. That means what? 1 bullet at 15 minutes interval? The Romanian generals and ministers appealed Hitler several times to displace more troops to the flanks or to give the comand of the Romanian army to Romanians. Hitler didn't care. He took many of the Romanian troops to help his troops in conquering Stalingrad. Stalin identified the weak link, and he attacked it with armored vehicles. Despite many acts of heroism, Romanians where destroyed. Their only option was to get close to the tanks and stick a handful of grenades to the tank. Most of the times they where killed on their way to the tanks. Most of the grenades that they somehow managed to stick to the tanks failed to stop the tanks. It was a blood bath. Those that survived, where taken prisoners, just to end up having a worse death.
All of this because of Hitler's mad ambitions. Yep. Passed waters anyway.
The map does say Yugoslavia, so it must be an old video
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The day Romania turned its arms against Germany, the Soviets took 100000 Romanian soldiers prisoner, including my uncle.
The presentation is false from the beginning and tries to give a false interpretation of the events
The Romanians were never anti-Semitic! They fought the Russians because the Russians always tried to tear pieces from Romania or to occupy it! They were not driven by any anti-Semitic feelings! I don't even think that the Romanian soldiers knew anything about the Jews, because Jews were not so numerous in Romania
This is the invented point of view of the Romanians, there is no point of view of the Romanians in this clip. Someone keeps changing our history and that is not good.
Romania lost her army at stalingrad.
She was a very bad army to fight against ussr
False
Only if the American Allies didn't supply them with heavy artilery, ammuntion,food,clothing and bolstered their morals. Without that, we could have won.