Captain Rex: "Looks like we got ourselves a batch of *shinies,* Commander." Echo: "Shinies, sir?" Captain Rex: "That's right. Your armor - it's shiny and new. Just like you."
Honestly, Rex’s hybrid armor was the best in my opinion. It takes the most effective attributes from both: the strength of phase 1 with the flexibility of phase 2. I daresay it could’ve been the template for phase 3 if things were different.
Honestly they could release a season of The Clone Wars dedicated to the various characters making upgrades to their kit. Rex fusing his armor, Anakin upgrading the bucket ship he and Ahsoka got when they rescued Rotta the Hutt, all of it.
Probably the fact that the war was turning clearly in the GARs favor once Phase 2 came out. Probably figured the war would end soon so to reequip en masse, again, just wouldnt be economical
@Hoggy Muscles that’s definitely not true. Modern US soldiers and Marines can and are expected to carry up to 160lbs of gear/equipment/armor on any given day. (Why small women should not be allowed in combat)
@Hoggy Muscles granted I agree overall id want to wear the phase 2. and thank you for your service. But I believe full suits of medieval Knight armor were also around the same 88 pound mark and they were extremely formed to the wearer and maneuverable despite myths that say the opposite. Probably the phase 1 armor isn’t as well tailored and weight evenly distributed as perfect suits of armor from Medieval/Renaissance perioid. (Im sure the kaminoans wouldn’t care that much) but the fact the whole army is made of clones and wears the same size probably helps with the overall design fitting somewhat well
@Hoggy Muscles just telling you these armour are exclusively made for clones, bred from fetuses to be the most hard-core army the galaxy has ever seen. They definitely know the limits of clone armour
Correct me if I’m wrong, but another difference between the 2 armors were the prices: Phase 1- 2,000 credits Phase 2- 3,000 credits. As someone who’s revisiting Battlefront 2004, I find it uncanny seeing Phase 1 Clones during the Battle of Kashyyyk, but it’s unique I guess.
Honestly in prolonged combat you want gear that's not going to overheat or exhaust your troopers. I think Rex had the right idea putting the most armor on the chest area. That's where the major organs that need protecting are (look at Military and Law Enforcement armor systems).
If we go by in universe comments and referances to the various armors in both comfort and protection, then the winner by much is actually the Phase II Clone armor. If we ignore any "game stats" out there, and look at what is written and said in universe, then the phase 2 armor is designed for added mobility, lighter weight while still providing as much protection as possible. Also the armor suit was versitile, even the "marine armr" the "snowtooper looking" ones for the 21st Nova Corps (galactic marines) is actually a regular phase II armor with added skirts, helmet starps masks and the like, another feature of the armor was the ability to add on to it rather than later when the empire expanded the militaty machine, making "new" specialized armor, the phase II was simply a skeleton armor to add on to for all from space trooper, jump trooper, under water, snow and yes the classic marines with the "face skirt" and all, ' This is why by far the Phase II armor is the best one in the universe timeline
I wasn't a big fan of Phase 2 at first, it reminded me too much of the StormTroopers, but then I saw all the unique customization, especially during the Battle of Umbara with how different Rex, Fives, Jesse, Hardcase, Tup, and Dogma's armors all looked, and I loved it.
With how long the Clone army was in development you'd think the armor wouldn't have needed any changes save for specific deployments like dessert, cold, and space. It's not like their weapons or vehicles changed much throughout the war. Rex's hybrid feels like a cop out when every other clone that got shot in a similar location dies. But then there's Thorn taking several shots in the chest with Phase 2 when Rex gets blown off his bike and injured from a sniper to the chest.
Rex had the right idea, but if I had to choose one or the other it's phase 2. The added mobility, specialist attachments and comfort win out when it's already dealing with 90% of the dangers on a battlefield. At this point all I need to do is keep my head low and get on with the job.
Phase 1 for sure. I love the look, especially on jump troopers, & the extra durability. I also have a bunch of nostalgia playing Star Wars Battlefront as the clones & watching the 2003 clones wars animations.
I always preferred the more sleek look of the Phase 1 helmet. The sharp curves around the jawline of the helmet and the distinct fin on the top always stood out as unique and cool. But with what I know now, I've recently changed to the Arc trooper helmet. It's like a perfect blend of Phase 1 and 2. Like a Phase 1.5, it has the distinct fin, with the T-viser and nozzles of Phase 2.
i always liked phase 1 amour more. and there are a few reasons for that. first off i liked the look of phase 1 amour more, the fin on the helmet and the general look of the helmet is just more my taste i guess. that and i grew up with that look with the clone wars and the attack of the clones. but the bigger and deeper reason is because for me the phases symbolizes the gradual rise of the empire and the fall of democracy. when you look at the rough time of phase 2s introduction its around the same time as the army of the galactic republic became more and more like the empire. and i feel like that no where is that more telling then the gear of the clones. it was one of the first things i noted as a kid when i watched revenge of the sith. and i have just come to associate phase 2 with the gradual evil that would later become the empire. and that saddens me every time i see it because i know that order 66 is just around the corner. in short i always saw phase 2 as a step closer to the empire. and even tho i would rather where phase to if i had the choice. i still love the OG amour
The Phase Armor was an icon for the Galactic Republic Army and later the Galactic Empire though considering how troublesome the Phase I armor was it will sadly be a statement of protection rather of faulty design like all good armor are.
I think something important that he notes here is that there were things phase 2 did just as well and even better than phase 1, aside from being lighter and more comfortable. With that in mind, I think this is an example of real steel warfare principles carrying over. Irl, you don’t want your body armor to be so light that it doesn’t stop what is being shot at you, but you also don’t want it to be so heavy and uncomfortable that you can’t move as you need to. You want to find the right balance, and see if it is possible to have armor that will stop your weapons and those of your enemy while also being light enough for you to move, because keep in mind that if you can’t move, you’re more likely to need the armor. So I think it was wise for them to change the design, even if they overcorrected a bit. Aside from adding more versatility and the ability to prepare clones for space missions, they made it so clones could move more freely, which likely saved lives, and based on how blaster bolts work(according to Kyle Hill) even a thinner sheet of plastic with the thick body glove underneath should be enough to stop most small arms fire.
Honestly, I think something of a hybrid of the two would be more ideal. That or at the very least let the clones make the changes as they need them. But that would probably be stepping on commando toes and stuff like that. Personally, I would do what Rex did too and just make key parts of my suit, head and chest area more durable. It won't always look pretty but if it works. Then well.
@@TheBlueFoxOverlord I 100% agree, had the war continued further beyond. There very much could of been a phase 3 and that one. Could take inspiration from Rex's customization. I dare even say. If that happened we could have seen the model to be proto storm trooper armor. Like akin to what we see in Bad Batch. :D Which would be pretty neat. But thats just my take on if it continued on. Though if you ask me, I don't think it would have cause then well. Palp would probably slip up somewhere and well. Even to this day, I still have a hard time believing how cunning palp is. I don't know how to explain it. Maybe its all the various legend lore and cannon stuff conflicting idk. :P
Can anyone pinpoint when the Phase II armors finally replaced all Phase I armors within the Clones Army? This is hard to notice if we focused on how the war goes after all.
In our own world, the resurgence of helmets and body armor was meant not to stop direct ballistic threats but shrapnel. Helmets still can't stop full-power or intermediate-caliber rounds (7.62 nato or 5.56 respectively) but significant progress has been made in those areas in recent years. Today's best ballistic helmets can stop up to .44 magnum. Body armor, however, is currently capable of stopping .30-06 Armor Piercing. Having made the advancement from flak/shrapnel protection to direct ballistic protection much faster than helmets did. If you look at American body armor over the last 25-30 years you'll see a trend of heavier and more comprehensive protection until around 2013-2015ish. During the last 5-10 years body armor is progressing more and more to streamlined and lightweight systems. See things like today's Crye JPC vs the Interceptor body armor with all of its extra restrictive plates. Between this and my own personal experience with body armor, lighter is better. Being able to 'hook and jab' or 'boot scoot boogie' is far more important. Lay down effective fire on the enemy so they cant return the favor. But not much of this real-world analyse matters in an IP where their version of cutting-edge tactics is mass wave assaults.
for my character that snuck his way into the GAR he would stick with phase 1 armor but would probably also take a blow torch to the helmet to upgrade a few components, one of them not actually being the air nozzles, dont need them if your a droid, his main issue though was making sure no one realised he was a droid, stronger armor then was his go to
When I first hit this video I thought this was a 501st clone commanders video like the one on the coruscant guard commanders. Would be cool since the 501st had five known commanders.
I prefer Phase I. My number one priority would be protection, I want my armor to able to protect me from as many things as possible. Comfort is a secondary concern. The armors primary purpose is to keep its wearer alive in combat. A Phase III that had all of the durability and protection of Phase I but with all of the added benefits of Phase II would have been perfect.
I’m personally a phase 2 guy myself because of the variety that it gives in cosmetic and equipment options like helmets I’m a barc helmet guy personally but Rex’s hybrid armor is *chefs kiss*
I personally like the phase 1 more, the helmets are more sleek, clean and elegant to me. The Tvisor itself, the way the mouth droops down, the "mohawk" and its little red light on the end. The phase 2 with those "tubes" on the bottom of the helmet and the teardrop visor isnt nearly as interesting looking to me as the phase 1. Thats just my personal thoughts on it. Now when it comes to some of the other helmets the clones used like the arf or pilots its a whole other story. I LOVE that open faced clone pilot helmet from the rots opening, wish we saw more of that in the clone wars. And yes i know the phase 1 is more like the mando helmets and the phase 2 more like the stormtrooper helmet.
I like phase II paras and shrouded helms like Cody’s but I also like phase I with the colored ranks and ARCs(not the hybrid finned phase II ones) One thing I’ve wondered though looking at the pics you use in your videos: you pull from the movies, battlefront II and art from Star Wars Legion. So my question is what is the DC-15a? Is it an automatic heavy weapon like in battlefront or is it like a designated marksman weapon like in Legion?
I’d use a mix of the two like Rex. I’d sacrifice a little mobility to protect my vitals and if you can see the enemy first you can hit them first by using phase one visor hud.
honestly, I associate the phase I with those guys who came to the Jedi to help in Geonosis, and those who fought side by side with them. The second phase is with those who began to exterminate the Jedi.
Rex's awesome Frankenstein armor. Best of both worlds. Updated software from phase 2, comms, hud, the like. Better visibility, and blast resistance from the chest plate and helmet from the phase 1 set. Lighter phase 2 armor on the thighs for better comfort. Also the comma, though only rated for protection against shrapnel, could be used instead of the phase 1 leg set.
I'd say that the out of universe explanation is that because phase 2 armor looks more like stormtrooper armor, it's meant to show the republics slow transformation into the empire
From my understanding, most helmets like that from the era of that universe, look completely transparent from the inside(wearer's point of view) once activated With hud, and different levels opacity of the helmet itself Try reading Boba Fett stories, or play republic commando
I know it would've been a pain to animate, but I always wondered why we don't see the occasional clone still don phase 1. It's all phase 1 or all phase 2.
Short answer they’re suppose to work in a group so a miss wouldnt be bad as they’re all firing at once and the helmets visor being weird Why? No point who would go against the empire barely, any did until Luke did so and the last reason P L O T - A R M O R
I think that if the armours were combined with all of there positives, it would be better, like keeping p1 chestplate and using phase 2 everything else like rex, most of soldiers injuries are chest wounds because of how big that area is.
Leaving behind the lore, my favorite armor will always be Phase 2. I always found the helmet to be more intimidating and more easy to customize. Phase 2 always 🥵
Through out history you have people taking kits and making what you will of them. Either cause the item is more effective or cause of resource scarcity. Thus I feel Rex's kit is effective for what he learned. But you do not see others making the same changes. Look at Wolfe and Cody for example. Most of the changes made there were in the helm.
As a SW helmet lover, Phase II looks cooler from the outside but at the end of the day Phase I has much better visibility thanks to the classic T shaped visor.
Am still torn, but really, Katarn armor and its oft-overlooked Imperial variant are still worthwhile, especially with shields. Also, this video better get a sequel vid comparing them with the Stormtrooper armor over the eras.
With the comment about fans brushing off the usefulness of Clone Trooper and stormtrooper armor it remind me when people are surprised when they find military combat helmets aren't rated for most of the rounds the military uses or will be facing because the helmet not designed to take a direct blow and most places it's meant to protect against shrapnel.
in the movies at least the only noticeable difference in the armor is the helmet but in the clone wars series you can see way more differences between phase 1 and 2 the knee and elbow pads on phase 1 are part of the leg and arm pieces but on phase 2 are separate moving pieces the also have different shoulder pads and the chestplate is cut differently around the abs and the arms
rex did it right with his armor, and knowing how evvective Rex was in combat, why didn't the republic use Rex's for a phase 3 for the benefit's of both armors in one
Kindda odd though that P1 1 didn't stick around as heavy armour, that extra protection still had value even if it would demand a retrofit to keep it up to the standard P2 sets.
I like the upgrades of the phase 2, but I wish they didn't alter the helmet so much, looks too much like a storm trooper, and as Rex said, the altered visor was harder to see out of, the phase one helmet is what made them stand out from the stormtroopers that came after, which is good because stormtroopers were nothing compared to Clones, they weren't even properly trained as frontline soldiers, when the Empire started the Stormtrooper training regiment, they had the 'brilliant' idea to make clone commando's their instructor's, right have commando's trained for spec ops missions train an entire army for frontline combat, real smart move there.
Commando Armor (known as Katarn class) was superior to both Phase 1 and Phase 2 in virtually all regards from protection with its own deflector shielding and reinforced duraplast plating. Not to mention the addition of bacta pads available through the suit and its integrated backpack which could store gadgets, gear, and ammo + explosives.
Rex's Combo is the best in my opinion but I love the astheic of the phase one armor just looks bad ass not saying the phase 2 doesn't but it looks to much like the storm troopers and I'm not a big fan of them how ever I do love seeing special units or diversified armor being worn by both clones and storm troopers it adds personality
Imagine this is how our soldiers of the future will be encased in armor like the clones or knights of the past. Modern militaries are definitely trying to design a full body suit using light, bullet-proof alloys.
I'm not saying the because it looks better or superior, but as I have seen and compared them in my mind over the years which version is better Phase I or Phase II. I think the Phase I armor looks lighter, tougher, and sleeker. The Phase II armor looks heavier and makes it harder to move around because of the thickness of it. I get they made the Phase II armor the way it is because it is the predecesser to the iconic Stormtrooper armor that we all know and love today. But that is just the way it looks to me.
As someone who has had to run around in full Military gear, 40 kilos is a hell of alot of weight. Thats not even including the DC 15, power packs, detonators, food, etc. If your just on a ship, fine. But in combat, in mud, sand, snow, etc, screw that. Phase II all the way, just for the less strain on the body.
If the armor was so good at keeping the clones protected with other things, than it's weird how the most common weapons in the clone wars and storm trooper missions, were their weakness
Phase 2 armor was also likely cheaper, maybe even faster, to produce. Because IF there's any remote similarity between the sci-fi of Star Wars and the real world? It's likely the fact that wars of ANY kind, eat up resources and money about as fast as they eat up peoples and cultures. And one can see a distinct difference and overall decline in general societal wealth and opulence between the Republican pre-Clone Wars era and the post-Clone Wars/early Imperial era. Which would sorta indicate that the impact of the Clone Wars on Galactic society as a whole, was extremely huge and largely negative. Not just because it paved the way for the return of the Sith and the rise of the Galactic Empire. But because it touched about every known world in the Star Wars galaxy in such a way that was like an apocalyptic, world ending, disaster.
I grew up with Stormtroopers so I tend to favor the phase II suit,I also enjoy the colored markings they used since Stormtroopers were a little...bland
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Echo: "Shinies, sir?"
Captain Rex: "That's right. Your armor - it's shiny and new. Just like you."
Also Captain Rex, “Roger. Roger. “
Also Rex: *Giggle* at Anakin "sky guy" nickname
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“I’m always first kid”.
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I definitely loved how Captain Rex used both parts of Phase I and II for both durability and flexibility
The kaminoans tried making clone armour out of plot resistant materials, but the mando's beat them to it
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Honestly, Rex’s hybrid armor was the best in my opinion. It takes the most effective attributes from both: the strength of phase 1 with the flexibility of phase 2. I daresay it could’ve been the template for phase 3 if things were different.
Plus, it looks cool 😎
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I think Rex decided to make a hybrid because the phase 1 chestplate saved his life.
Yea for real, I’ve never really thought about Rex’s hybrid armor too much beyond the fact that he customized parts of it until this great video
Perfectly said.
Honestly they could release a season of The Clone Wars dedicated to the various characters making upgrades to their kit. Rex fusing his armor, Anakin upgrading the bucket ship he and Ahsoka got when they rescued Rotta the Hutt, all of it.
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I do not understand why Captain Rex's mod was not made a universal thing throughout the GAR...might as well have issued a phase 2.5 or something.
They called him a mad man, because they couldn't comprehend his genius
Most likely either logistical or political reasons. Or Palpy reasons.
Probably the fact that the war was turning clearly in the GARs favor once Phase 2 came out. Probably figured the war would end soon so to reequip en masse, again, just wouldnt be economical
I used to call it phase 1.5 because it’d after phase 1 and a bit before phase 2.
@@Iamaclone3821 didn’t they already have a 1.5 judging from the first arc troopers
I liked both phase one and phase two both have interesting designs and upgrades
same
I like the fin on the Phase 1 helmet. Nice touch of 1950's retro futurism in there.
Definitely phase 1 armor. It’s reminiscent of Mandalorian armor and even real life ancient Greek armor. Especially in the helmet, makes it the coolest
Agreed
On that note combine it with senate guard armor (blue clone version) for a far greater effect
@Hoggy Muscles that’s definitely not true. Modern US soldiers and Marines can and are expected to carry up to 160lbs of gear/equipment/armor on any given day. (Why small women should not be allowed in combat)
@Hoggy Muscles granted I agree overall id want to wear the phase 2. and thank you for your service. But I believe full suits of medieval Knight armor were also around the same 88 pound mark and they were extremely formed to the wearer and maneuverable despite myths that say the opposite. Probably the phase 1 armor isn’t as well tailored and weight evenly distributed as perfect suits of armor from Medieval/Renaissance perioid. (Im sure the kaminoans wouldn’t care that much) but the fact the whole army is made of clones and wears the same size probably helps with the overall design fitting somewhat well
@Hoggy Muscles just telling you these armour are exclusively made for clones, bred from fetuses to be the most hard-core army the galaxy has ever seen. They definitely know the limits of clone armour
Phase 1 helmets are my favourite helmets in all science fiction.
Now I get why Rex said Phase One in Rebels after being nailed from B1s and droidekas.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but another difference between the 2 armors were the prices:
Phase 1- 2,000 credits
Phase 2- 3,000 credits.
As someone who’s revisiting Battlefront 2004, I find it uncanny seeing Phase 1 Clones during the Battle of Kashyyyk, but it’s unique I guess.
Honestly in prolonged combat you want gear that's not going to overheat or exhaust your troopers. I think Rex had the right idea putting the most armor on the chest area. That's where the major organs that need protecting are (look at Military and Law Enforcement armor systems).
Commando’s laughing in the background “we never got updated armor until the Imperial days”
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If we go by in universe comments and referances to the various armors in both comfort and protection, then the winner by much is actually the Phase II Clone armor.
If we ignore any "game stats" out there, and look at what is written and said in universe, then the phase 2 armor is designed for added mobility, lighter weight while still providing as much protection as possible.
Also the armor suit was versitile, even the "marine armr" the "snowtooper looking" ones for the 21st Nova Corps (galactic marines) is actually a regular phase II armor with added skirts, helmet starps masks and the like, another feature of the armor was the ability to add on to it rather than later when the empire expanded the militaty machine, making "new" specialized armor, the phase II was simply a skeleton armor to add on to for all from space trooper, jump trooper, under water, snow and yes the classic marines with the "face skirt" and all,
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This is why by far the Phase II armor is the best one in the universe timeline
I wasn't a big fan of Phase 2 at first, it reminded me too much of the StormTroopers, but then I saw all the unique customization, especially during the Battle of Umbara with how different Rex, Fives, Jesse, Hardcase, Tup, and Dogma's armors all looked, and I loved it.
With how long the Clone army was in development you'd think the armor wouldn't have needed any changes save for specific deployments like dessert, cold, and space. It's not like their weapons or vehicles changed much throughout the war.
Rex's hybrid feels like a cop out when every other clone that got shot in a similar location dies. But then there's Thorn taking several shots in the chest with Phase 2 when Rex gets blown off his bike and injured from a sniper to the chest.
Rex had the right idea, but if I had to choose one or the other it's phase 2. The added mobility, specialist attachments and comfort win out when it's already dealing with 90% of the dangers on a battlefield. At this point all I need to do is keep my head low and get on with the job.
Phase 1 for sure. I love the look, especially on jump troopers, & the extra durability. I also have a bunch of nostalgia playing Star Wars Battlefront as the clones & watching the 2003 clones wars animations.
I would combine the best qualities of both armors along with a pinch of the armor used by the republic troops in the Old Republic mmo.
I always preferred the more sleek look of the Phase 1 helmet. The sharp curves around the jawline of the helmet and the distinct fin on the top always stood out as unique and cool.
But with what I know now, I've recently changed to the Arc trooper helmet.
It's like a perfect blend of Phase 1 and 2.
Like a Phase 1.5, it has the distinct fin, with the T-viser and nozzles of Phase 2.
I wish you had also contrasted that with stormtrooper armor.
i always liked phase 1 amour more. and there are a few reasons for that. first off i liked the look of phase 1 amour more, the fin on the helmet and the general look of the helmet is just more my taste i guess. that and i grew up with that look with the clone wars and the attack of the clones. but the bigger and deeper reason is because for me the phases symbolizes the gradual rise of the empire and the fall of democracy. when you look at the rough time of phase 2s introduction its around the same time as the army of the galactic republic became more and more like the empire. and i feel like that no where is that more telling then the gear of the clones. it was one of the first things i noted as a kid when i watched revenge of the sith. and i have just come to associate phase 2 with the gradual evil that would later become the empire. and that saddens me every time i see it because i know that order 66 is just around the corner. in short i always saw phase 2 as a step closer to the empire. and even tho i would rather where phase to if i had the choice. i still love the OG amour
Yeah I at first prefer phase 2 but phase one grew up on me
Idk maybe because of the way the helmet looks, it so simple yet neat
@@comradekenobi6908 yeah it really is, i always liked the tail fin thingy on the helmet
Finally some one has the same thought I had the phase 2 armor looks evil
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The Phase Armor was an icon for the Galactic Republic Army and later the Galactic Empire though considering how troublesome the Phase I armor was it will sadly be a statement of protection rather of faulty design like all good armor are.
I think something important that he notes here is that there were things phase 2 did just as well and even better than phase 1, aside from being lighter and more comfortable. With that in mind, I think this is an example of real steel warfare principles carrying over. Irl, you don’t want your body armor to be so light that it doesn’t stop what is being shot at you, but you also don’t want it to be so heavy and uncomfortable that you can’t move as you need to. You want to find the right balance, and see if it is possible to have armor that will stop your weapons and those of your enemy while also being light enough for you to move, because keep in mind that if you can’t move, you’re more likely to need the armor. So I think it was wise for them to change the design, even if they overcorrected a bit. Aside from adding more versatility and the ability to prepare clones for space missions, they made it so clones could move more freely, which likely saved lives, and based on how blaster bolts work(according to Kyle Hill) even a thinner sheet of plastic with the thick body glove underneath should be enough to stop most small arms fire.
Hypothetically if there was a phase 3 I would think the armor smiths would use Rex’s armor as a template
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Honestly, I think something of a hybrid of the two would be more ideal. That or at the very least let the clones make the changes as they need them. But that would probably be stepping on commando toes and stuff like that.
Personally, I would do what Rex did too and just make key parts of my suit, head and chest area more durable. It won't always look pretty but if it works. Then well.
could be upgraded to phase 3 if war gone further cause they be hella useful maybe even imrpove of such idea cvombine both worlds
@@TheBlueFoxOverlord I 100% agree, had the war continued further beyond. There very much could of been a phase 3 and that one. Could take inspiration from Rex's customization.
I dare even say. If that happened we could have seen the model to be proto storm trooper armor. Like akin to what we see in Bad Batch. :D Which would be pretty neat. But thats just my take on if it continued on.
Though if you ask me, I don't think it would have cause then well. Palp would probably slip up somewhere and well.
Even to this day, I still have a hard time believing how cunning palp is. I don't know how to explain it. Maybe its all the various legend lore and cannon stuff conflicting idk. :P
Can anyone pinpoint when the Phase II armors finally replaced all Phase I armors within the Clones Army? This is hard to notice if we focused on how the war goes after all.
I'm not really sure, but I would hazard a guess at some time around the second or third year of the war
In our own world, the resurgence of helmets and body armor was meant not to stop direct ballistic threats but shrapnel. Helmets still can't stop full-power or intermediate-caliber rounds (7.62 nato or 5.56 respectively) but significant progress has been made in those areas in recent years. Today's best ballistic helmets can stop up to .44 magnum. Body armor, however, is currently capable of stopping .30-06 Armor Piercing. Having made the advancement from flak/shrapnel protection to direct ballistic protection much faster than helmets did.
If you look at American body armor over the last 25-30 years you'll see a trend of heavier and more comprehensive protection until around 2013-2015ish. During the last 5-10 years body armor is progressing more and more to streamlined and lightweight systems. See things like today's Crye JPC vs the Interceptor body armor with all of its extra restrictive plates.
Between this and my own personal experience with body armor, lighter is better. Being able to 'hook and jab' or 'boot scoot boogie' is far more important. Lay down effective fire on the enemy so they cant return the favor.
But not much of this real-world analyse matters in an IP where their version of cutting-edge tactics is mass wave assaults.
Visually I prefer phase 1 armor
So it’s like Phase 1 was like a F-15 and Phase 2 was a F-16, and stormtrooper armour was a MiG 25
I thought it was an F/A-18, the Stormie.
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Phase 1 armor is my favorite I just love the helmet design.
p1 for me, but i like heavy weapons so running fast isnt the issue so the boost to def would be my thing for sure
for my character that snuck his way into the GAR he would stick with phase 1 armor but would probably also take a blow torch to the helmet to upgrade a few components, one of them not actually being the air nozzles, dont need them if your a droid, his main issue though was making sure no one realised he was a droid, stronger armor then was his go to
Clone armor was 88 pounds… goddamn they truly are troopers
"Generation one armor always holds up." - Captain Rex
Too bad it's ugly
What Rex's armor or Phase 1 armor? Cuz I think Rex's armor is pretty awesome.
My FAVORITE ARMOR was the Phase 1.5 Arc Trooper that Fives wore , EVEN BETTER the Umbra Operative Arc Trooper
When I first hit this video I thought this was a 501st clone commanders video like the one on the coruscant guard commanders. Would be cool since the 501st had five known commanders.
I prefer Phase I. My number one priority would be protection, I want my armor to able to protect me from as many things as possible. Comfort is a secondary concern. The armors primary purpose is to keep its wearer alive in combat. A Phase III that had all of the durability and protection of Phase I but with all of the added benefits of Phase II would have been perfect.
Clone pilot looking at phase 1 Armour:
- I need one of those.
personally phase 1 armor looks better especially the helmet there's something about the helmet that makes me adore it.
Phase I Armor: Exists
Phase II Armor: Also Exists
Rex: Does a Fusion Dance with a clone of himself in Phase II armor and makes his hybrid gear
I’m personally a phase 2 guy myself because of the variety that it gives in cosmetic and equipment options like helmets I’m a barc helmet guy personally but Rex’s hybrid armor is *chefs kiss*
I think Rex has it right
A combination of the two is the best decision
I personally like the phase 1 more, the helmets are more sleek, clean and elegant to me.
The Tvisor itself, the way the mouth droops down, the "mohawk" and its little red light on the end.
The phase 2 with those "tubes" on the bottom of the helmet and the teardrop visor isnt nearly as interesting looking to me as the phase 1.
Thats just my personal thoughts on it.
Now when it comes to some of the other helmets the clones used like the arf or pilots its a whole other story.
I LOVE that open faced clone pilot helmet from the rots opening, wish we saw more of that in the clone wars.
And yes i know the phase 1 is more like the mando helmets and the phase 2 more like the stormtrooper helmet.
I like phase II paras and shrouded helms like Cody’s but I also like phase I with the colored ranks and ARCs(not the hybrid finned phase II ones)
One thing I’ve wondered though looking at the pics you use in your videos: you pull from the movies, battlefront II and art from Star Wars Legion. So my question is what is the DC-15a? Is it an automatic heavy weapon like in battlefront or is it like a designated marksman weapon like in Legion?
Keep the phase 1 helmet and chest plate, but replace everything else. I'm going to be a very fast tank!
I'd personally wear Mark 2 with a Mark 1 helmet.
I’d use a mix of the two like Rex. I’d sacrifice a little mobility to protect my vitals and if you can see the enemy first you can hit them first by using phase one visor hud.
honestly, I associate the phase I with those guys who came to the Jedi to help in Geonosis, and those who fought side by side with them. The second phase is with those who began to exterminate the Jedi.
Rex's awesome Frankenstein armor. Best of both worlds. Updated software from phase 2, comms, hud, the like. Better visibility, and blast resistance from the chest plate and helmet from the phase 1 set. Lighter phase 2 armor on the thighs for better comfort. Also the comma, though only rated for protection against shrapnel, could be used instead of the phase 1 leg set.
i like the head crest, it resembles the fin on Kaminoan males.
I'd say that the out of universe explanation is that because phase 2 armor looks more like stormtrooper armor, it's meant to show the republics slow transformation into the empire
We're I a clone, I would mix bits of the different phases together, mainly keeping the phase I Cuirass.
Objective view: for mass production and grand scale strategy Phase II
Subjective view: Phase I looks the coolest and is the most iconic
5:16 wait, which jedi is in this picture? their armor looks almost clone/mandolorian like
From my understanding, most helmets like that from the era of that universe, look completely transparent from the inside(wearer's point of view) once activated
With hud, and different levels opacity of the helmet itself
Try reading Boba Fett stories, or play republic commando
I know it would've been a pain to animate, but I always wondered why we don't see the occasional clone still don phase 1. It's all phase 1 or all phase 2.
Video Idea: Why Stormtroopers can't Aim
It'd be too short I'd say. He'd just have to shout "Plot Armour!" And then roll the credits.
Stormtrooper can aim
Short answer they’re suppose to work in a group so a miss wouldnt be bad as they’re all firing at once and the helmets visor being weird
Why? No point who would go against the empire barely, any did until Luke did so and the last reason
P L O T - A R M O R
I think that if the armours were combined with all of there positives, it would be better, like keeping p1 chestplate and using phase 2 everything else like rex, most of soldiers injuries are chest wounds because of how big that area is.
Great video bro
Leaving behind the lore, my favorite armor will always be Phase 2. I always found the helmet to be more intimidating and more easy to customize. Phase 2 always 🥵
Please do a video on all star wars metals
What would the ARC trooper armor classify as?
Probably phase 1.5
The Canon ARC troopers are mostly phase 2 with the phase 1 fin
ARC troopers and Rex casually combining both: imma do what’s called a pro gamer move
Through out history you have people taking kits and making what you will of them. Either cause the item is more effective or cause of resource scarcity. Thus I feel Rex's kit is effective for what he learned. But you do not see others making the same changes. Look at Wolfe and Cody for example. Most of the changes made there were in the helm.
Phase 2 looks dope tho just look at some arc troopers
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I also prefer the look of the phase 2 armor. Great video!
As a SW helmet lover, Phase II looks cooler from the outside but at the end of the day Phase I has much better visibility thanks to the classic T shaped visor.
As a new fan I didn't know about phase 1 or 2, so thank you for this information, I prefer phase 2
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Quick question - was phase 3 considered part of the empire? Or is phase 3 a different thing?
It may not stop a blaster bolt from downing you, but it could mean the difference between a trip to a bacta tank or the morgue.
Phase 2 armor is better if for no reason other than that it looks cooler
Am still torn, but really, Katarn armor and its oft-overlooked Imperial variant are still worthwhile, especially with shields.
Also, this video better get a sequel vid comparing them with the Stormtrooper armor over the eras.
With the comment about fans brushing off the usefulness of Clone Trooper and stormtrooper armor it remind me when people are surprised when they find military combat helmets aren't rated for most of the rounds the military uses or will be facing because the helmet not designed to take a direct blow and most places it's meant to protect against shrapnel.
i wonder what a phase 3 amour would look like.
I love the marc 2. They are just clones to me. But phase one is just special it has a great look. You gotta love em both.
in the movies at least the only noticeable difference in the armor is the helmet but in the clone wars series you can see way more differences between phase 1 and 2 the knee and elbow pads on phase 1 are part of the leg and arm pieces but on phase 2 are separate moving pieces the also have different shoulder pads and the chestplate is cut differently around the abs and the arms
Phase II is the better of the bunch, honestly, but god damn, Phase I's Helms are just fucking fantastic.
rex did it right with his armor, and knowing how evvective Rex was in combat, why didn't the republic use Rex's for a phase 3 for the benefit's of both armors in one
Kindda odd though that P1 1 didn't stick around as heavy armour, that extra protection still had value even if it would demand a retrofit to keep it up to the standard P2 sets.
I like the upgrades of the phase 2, but I wish they didn't alter the helmet so much, looks too much like a storm trooper, and as Rex said, the altered visor was harder to see out of, the phase one helmet is what made them stand out from the stormtroopers that came after, which is good because stormtroopers were nothing compared to Clones, they weren't even properly trained as frontline soldiers, when the Empire started the Stormtrooper training regiment, they had the 'brilliant' idea to make clone commando's their instructor's, right have commando's trained for spec ops missions train an entire army for frontline combat, real smart move there.
I'm sure they snuck in phase 3 armor for the clones and other troops as well in the later part of the clone wars and the early years of the empire.
Commando Armor (known as Katarn class) was superior to both Phase 1 and Phase 2 in virtually all regards from protection with its own deflector shielding and reinforced duraplast plating. Not to mention the addition of bacta pads available through the suit and its integrated backpack which could store gadgets, gear, and ammo + explosives.
Rex's Combo is the best in my opinion but I love the astheic of the phase one armor just looks bad ass not saying the phase 2 doesn't but it looks to much like the storm troopers and I'm not a big fan of them how ever I do love seeing special units or diversified armor being worn by both clones and storm troopers it adds personality
Both? Both. Both. Both is good.
I’d pick phase 2
Rex's Hybrid armor definitely should've become standard it has to have been a Kaminoan oversight either that or Rex himself was just smart
I prefer the look of phase 1. When I think of a clone trooper that is the image that comes up. Subjectively
I done like the movie version of phase 1 but I love how it looks in the clone wars show
Imagine this is how our soldiers of the future will be encased in armor like the clones or knights of the past. Modern militaries are definitely trying to design a full body suit using light, bullet-proof alloys.
Rex hybrid is clearly the best but would say I love the look of phase one, 2 isn't bad in anyways
I'm not saying the because it looks better or superior, but as I have seen and compared them in my mind over the years which version is better Phase I or Phase II. I think the Phase I armor looks lighter, tougher, and sleeker. The Phase II armor looks heavier and makes it harder to move around because of the thickness of it. I get they made the Phase II armor the way it is because it is the predecesser to the iconic Stormtrooper armor that we all know and love today. But that is just the way it looks to me.
As someone who has had to run around in full Military gear, 40 kilos is a hell of alot of weight. Thats not even including the DC 15, power packs, detonators, food, etc. If your just on a ship, fine. But in combat, in mud, sand, snow, etc, screw that. Phase II all the way, just for the less strain on the body.
If the armor was so good at keeping the clones protected with other things, than it's weird how the most common weapons in the clone wars and storm trooper missions, were their weakness
,,Phase 2 armour provided much less protection against blaster fire."
Commander Thorn:and I took that personally
I prefer the below the neck linephase 2 armour but the phase 1 helmet looks far more elegant I mean they have fins on top
Phase 2 armor was also likely cheaper, maybe even faster, to produce.
Because IF there's any remote similarity between the sci-fi of Star Wars and the real world?
It's likely the fact that wars of ANY kind, eat up resources and money about as fast as they eat up peoples and cultures.
And one can see a distinct difference and overall decline in general societal wealth and opulence between the Republican pre-Clone Wars era and the post-Clone Wars/early Imperial era. Which would sorta indicate that the impact of the Clone Wars on Galactic society as a whole, was extremely huge and largely negative.
Not just because it paved the way for the return of the Sith and the rise of the Galactic Empire.
But because it touched about every known world in the Star Wars galaxy in such a way that was like an apocalyptic, world ending, disaster.
I grew up with Stormtroopers so I tend to favor the phase II suit,I also enjoy the colored markings they used since Stormtroopers were a little...bland