Draymond Green's Legacy is RUINED!
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2024
- Another day. Another Draymond Green suspension. In today’s video we discuss what Draymond’s legacy has turned into vs what it should be. Also the lack of accountability the warriors have shown in all of Draymond’s antics.
The Steve Kerr part is too accurate
Nah that Steve Kerr impression had me dying😂
Feel like a lot of guys aren't talking about this with the correct amount of passion and intensity and I'm glad you are P. It's utterly insane all the shit this dude has gotten away with and the league, the FO especially has just been willfully ignorant to it
7:38 that stare had me thinking i did something wrong
LMAO yep I almost apologized to the screen
I love the energy you brought. A lot of media pundits are downplaying the incident. The game doesn’t have room for bullshit like this, punching teammates & coworkers. Acting like this isn’t signs of serious emotional issues with Draymond & lack of integrity from the Warriors.
seeing P pissed off is comedy gold
With Draymond's history of suspensions compared to every other NBA player I feel like he would've been driven out of basically every other sports league by now and I never understood how punching Poole wasn't the last straw.
The Warriors were more worried about how the tape leaked then the punch lol
Thank you P. im so tired of Steve Kerr talking in the post game press conferences like he doesn't know whats going on. He needs to take accountability and show some actual emotional investment in the team
Steve Kerr such a liar. Draymond was literally in front of the warriors bench but Steve Kerr ain't see nothin. What a fraud.
The last indefinite suspension was Kyrie for only 8 games (Granted that was a very different circumstance), and it came out today that Dray is still allowed to practice with the Dubs while suspended. I'd love for this to be some long thing that he ultimately learns from, but I won't believe it until I see it
The warriors won’t step up to suspend him from all basketball operations. Literally did nothing after the Poole punch and when he bitched Kd out
If ja gets 25 games for a lighter then I feel like dray need Atleast 30 for all these antics
@@antithoughtz6167my thoughts exactly. Has to be longer than Ja's. I thought he deserved 30 after stomping Sabonis' ribs last year.
Great vid P. This was on the best takes on this Draymond green situation I’ve heard
aye man i love when u come out with no filter like this just rant bc i feel the same way. this situation is fucking insane but i agree with basically everything youre saying
STEVE “I GOTTA SEE THE PLAY” KERR!😂😂 FINALLY!! SOMEBODY WILL CALL THIS SHIT OUT. The same way they fear draymond, nba fans fear being critical of Steve Kerr, this guy is so clueless at times.
He plays dumb to avoid responsibility. The play literally happened in front of him, but he ain't seen nothing.
I wouldn't really say his legacy is ruined but he's definitely going to be remembered a bit differently after how much he's acted out these last couple seasons.
His legacy is most definitely ruined rlly his whole reputation bc bro is just bad for the game of basketball ppl need to see the bs for what it is and he’s not that guy and hasn’t been for a while reality is reality
@@notyouraverage10k95 honestly I think it’s gonna come down to the person like it do w pretty much every players legacy. it’s gon be people that remember dray for being the heart n soul of the team, dpoy, one of the greatest defenders of his era and of all time really n a contributor to the warriors dynasty. but it’s also gon be people that have all of his outbursts as the first thing they remember about him, and I ain’t even sayin they wrong to do that. personally his legacy ain’t ruined in my eyes ima always appreciate the player he’s been for his team but ion blame anyone that does consider it ruined
I mean, look at a guy like Bill Laimbeer. He's mostly remembered for his dirty plays, hard fouls and fights. People don't remember that he was also a 4 time all-star, prossibly the first ever stretch 5 and a big part of one of the best teams of all time. The same could easily happen to Draymond.
@@jxmmykriminallive 💯
@@jxmmykriminalliveDefinitely matters how he responds from this the most tho. Which is solely based on the Warriors success regardless even if he’s not playing dirty. Warriors have a lot of thinking to do this upcoming trade deadline.
This is one of the best breakdowns of Draymond I've ever seen. Good shit P, I feel you, I'm so fucking frustrated by Draymond, enough is enough
My guy P is fed up & I can't blame him 😂
P. I love your talking points, I love all the different angles you take when taking on a topic. But above all, I love when you’re conscious of the bigger picture and the message of things, and this video is a huge example of this. This isn’t your first time doing this, I’m a huge fan of you in particular but also TTW, so I’ve seen you get at stuff like this before. It just reminds me of why I’m such a big fan and supporter of you. Much love to you and your family as well following your recent loss, I’m praying everybody stays strong.
Beautiful comment. Much respect
He's a grown ass dude whos career is built off writing checks that he can't even cash, he lucky he got 30 in his corner lmao, that boy is different.
Honestly I never understood why Draymond was regarded as a hall of famer. He's a great role player but his success has been based off of circumstances. If Rudy Gobert had played with curry and klay in their primes he'd be a hall of famer also. Draymond without the warriors is just a great defensive player but not an all time talent that's a first ballot hall of famer
This is disgusting
@@lewis9275😂😂
Rudy will be in the HOF anyway.
It makes a lot of sense why Bob meyers got up outta there when he did. The writing was on the wall
It’s insane how long the warriors let his blatantly childish actions get swept under the rug. It’s clear he’s one to not change his ways on his own, and then feeding into his behavior is crazy. Especially Steve Kerr, claiming to not see the play every time. The nba really needs to make this suspension worth it, because he he keeps this up, just based on his insane volume of altercations, he is going to hurt someone. Nurkic is a tough guy, but if that could’ve seriously hurt someone else.
Lmao @ Andy Wiggins 😂😂😂
Thank you for calling out Kerr, embarrassing asf to sit up there and lie like that
Yeah, idk who's backing this behavior up anymore, like I think even the dubs fans are sick and tired of Draymond acting like a grown baby. It's time for them to move on from him because this core just ain't it anymore.
We most definitely are sick of him
THANK YOU PEE, People can talk about the picks, Kuminga over Franz, Wisemen over a ton of people. The dynasty was over the second Draymond punched Jordan Poole and they did NOTHING. Draymond didnt miss a regular season game. The Warriors constantly have an excuse for it. He cost them a finals, cost them KD, and that was before he was swinging on teammates. THEN that teammate didnt care at all so his value tanks and you get a 36 year old PG and you gave them the 1st. All bc Draymond Green.
I’ve always appreciated how big of an impact draymond has for the warriors the heart he plays with and taking on that “enforcer” role but at this point he’s not enforcing anything any more he’s just have a crazy violent outbursts and refuses to stop instead he’s trying to top himself every time he does something crazy violent
Nah P the “Andy Wiggins” killed me 💀, bro rly hasn’t shown up this year
“Oh u thought u was curry, nahh they dont love you like that”
P spittin facts 💯
As Warriors Fan since 2011 P I love the way you broke this situation. Draymond has been the problem all long and as much he is a blessing at times I think he’s been more of a curse these recent years and I have had enough for a while and I just wish the Warriors Organization saw this a long time ago. 🙄💯
I love how real this podcast is!
Great analysis per usual P. Talk to em!
Aye P had time today 😂. But I love it cause it’s the truth . Them tv personalities be sugar coating anything
you funny as hell for that title P lmao
Draymond is also the reason KD wanted to get outta there
Edit: you talk about it later in the vid.
What is Draymond’s legacy? Being consistently the 3rd, sometimes 4th best player on 4 championship teams?
I’m sorry, but I don’t understand how Draymond has been given so much leeway to do whatever he wants for the better part of a decade. It’s not like he’s ever been a top 15 player in the league.
Whoever remixed The Coolest for your intro is nice asl with it P
I’m a lifelong mavs fan but I have always really loved Draymond. What you said about the kind of player is so spot on and it really does suck that he’s going to be remembered for all this bullshit and not what his true greatness was
When an NBA player just completely STOPS caring about winning basketball games, he just needs to retire. Draymond Green just doesn't care. He walks onto the court and does whatever the hell he wants. HE IS NOT THAT GUY.
He has won 4 CHAMPIONSHIPS. From where im sittin, he doesn't care about matching Kobe. I just dont know anymore. Draymond Green is the most confusing player in the league.
imo his legacy was already ruined but it’s sad cause we’re from the same hometown but i can’t root for someone who’s literally the most unprofessional person in the sport outside of like miles bridges and KPJ. difference is this guy is a 4x champ and a 2x dpoy
P YOU'RE SPITTING STRAIGHT FACTS
Warriors are the weakest "dynasty" in terms of standing among the other NBA dynasties IMO. The half of their championships that made them a dynasty were won with the cheat code of KD (who was better than Steph those years LBR), and it made them entitled and over confident in their abilities and legacy. Steph can no longer coast on naturally good team chemistry and it's highlighting his weaknesses as a leader.
Consider me a fan. You’re so real and don’t give a fuck and that’s what got me! The Warriors need to be held accountable as well. It’s not just a Draymond situation it’s a WARRIORS SITUATION ITS A NBA SITUATION!
Love the content p!
Its so cathartic hearing P spit and calling out everyones BS rightfully so
The most underrated things Draymond got away with was in the 2022 finals when he should’ve been ejected in game 2 with those altercations with Grant and Jaylen because he knew the NBA won’t do nothing
We here ❤
I had to stop watching Warriors games because of Draymond. Every game its just complianing to refs yelling and doing dumb shit to opponents. I just want to watch and learn not see Draymond punching people and getting no consequences. Send him to therapy and suspend him for 20 games give him the Ja treatment. Ja didn't even do anything illegal Draymond just straight up commiting assault its crazy how much bullshit he gets away with.
I agree with 90% of what you said. Only thing I just don’t agree with is Draymond punching Poole and that being the reason the Warriors didn’t win a championship. It was basketball related when it came to the playoffs, not Draymond punching Poole in the off season.
I connect the basketball with the punch. The same way Draymond did at the start of this season. Saying the different in chemistry and how much it matters. They go hand and hand. Hard to play elite level basketball with people you don’t want to be around.
@@Peeweedaplug yea that’s true. I guess I just looked at it like they weren’t going to win anyway with the talent they had on last years team. Maybe Pooles downfall is because of the punch. But he looks terrible on the Wizards too.
Commenting oand likening every post til you see that I called you a goat love you man (and can a brother get a hoodie)
This what i been saying to myself honestly, the league suspending draymond indefinitely will hopefully force the warriors to take some accountability for allowing Green to get to this level of bully. Warriors front office might even think its time to shake some things up
Steph and Steve kurr have 0 leadership skills and this is what happens because of it
That take about emotions being in motion was super dope.
I thought last time they should have suspended him for 41 games and just eradicated the warriors chances this year because I knew that this shit was going to happen. The only way to somewhat affect Draymond is by seriously putting 30 chances to bed for a season. I also agree that the warrior teammates, front office and coaching have all been fucking spineless in dealing with Draymond.
Love this shit man! Good content!
P spitting w this one🤝
If you’re going to say Draymond is interchangeable in those championship, you gotta provide examples. I’m not taking your word for it. I can’t think of anyone they could have replaced Draymond with.
I agree that Draymond's antic are inexcusable but to say he is replaceable is absurd, no other player defends or facilitate the way Draymond can do when placed in the warriors system. It is completely fine to hate his foolish actions but to denounce his defensive presence is bizarre.
this title is wild
This reminds me so much of Vontaze Burfict
My question is, what if while dray is suspended, the Warriors start to win more games
Good Take Sir
Curry moving from GSW could be one of the worst and best things for the NBA probably since Bron left the Cavs for the first time.
Andy Wiggins💀💀💀
The root word of emotion is motion, I was like eeeee P you were in your bag! I agree he’s ruined his legacy, sad that GSW dynasty going out like this…
7:28 lmaoooo W P
I don't agree with the indefinite suspension. It feels like they punish him out of the narrative instead out of the rulebook. I agree he should be punished harsher than his previous suspension but the NBA should suspend him with a definite number of games because it can be used to set standard on any similar situation in the future.
For me, just say suspend him for 10-20 games and then told the Warriors to take responsibility on keeping him accountable. The problem is not just on Draymond but also the way GSW never hold him accountable on every bad things he did just built on the way he keep doing all the dirty plays.
its indefinite because hes doing counseling and has to get past that before being able to play. And you can't really put a timetable on how long that will take
@@damii6024I understand that but it's shouldn't be the NBA discipline committee's responsibility. If Draymond does need a counseling session, then it's the GSW responsibility to provide it to keep him accountable. The NBA can pressure the GSW to give Draymond a counseling but as the direct employer GSW should be the one who takes the action.
Let's say NBA suspend Draymond for 20 games. The NBA then can ask the GSW to get him a counseling as one way of keeping him accountable. After 20 games of suspension, formally he can play but under the team's assessment if the GSW think he will not do the same violation again he can play, but if they're not sure if he will not do his shit again then as their responsibility the GSW can hold him from playing any games even after the suspension period is over. That's show that GSW as an organisation can take responsibility on holding their player accountable. But of course if he does play and repeat his violation again and again then the punishment must get harsher and harsher.
The thing is, it's kinda late to take this action because he have been doing that dirty plays for years. So I understand why they choose to suspend him indefinitely, but it feels like the NBA didn't punish him for his violation this season only but they punish him for his every dirty plays on his entire career.
If the Warriors are smart they will clear as much cap space as possible and try to sign Kawhi and PG in free agency to team up with Steph
Let’s go P 🐐
He didnt just punch his teammate, he knocked him out cold
That’s tuff that they gave Draymond all that money to keep that core together but Klay and dray haven’t showed anything this season but techs and the team lets it happen smh
I will say compare Boogie to Draymond and its surpassing the leash dray has
Great vid P
Lmao Steve Kerr press conferences be so funny man . But yes the whole warriors front office is at fault.
P bottom row look kinda crazy never peeped 😭
Let me just start of by saying I’ve always seen draymond as this kind of dirty player from when they first made the finals and kicked lebron in the nuts.
Now, I agree with everything except for the part where you said his role with the dynasty is replaceable.
He was the second most important piece for the team. Curry obviously number 1, but without draymonds defense and playmaking they don’t win anything.
At the time when they were starting their dynasty this mentality was needed because everyone viewed them as soft, so draymonds play and off court antics was necessary to establish the team as legit.
Now that he’s old and washed he shouldn’t be doing the same stupid things off the court but in my opinion this is what warriors fans deserve. For the last 10 years they were happy when draymond was being dirty, hurting or injuring players because draymond was barely ever punished and the team was good and dominating. The fans always supported him when he was doing the exact same thing years ago, but now that they aren’t winning anymore they are saying that he’s a horrible person. He’s always been horrible but it’s too late to feel bad for warriors fans because they are part of the problem just like Steve Kerr and the rest of the team.
They have no one to blame but themselves for what draymond is now.
Commenting before watching the vid.
This doesn’t hurt his legacy. He’s just going to be remembered as the last guy that plays with “grit”. Let’s be honest they will always give him a slap on the wrist
Very well said p
As a warriors fan i loved his passion in the past, always hated his antics but still thankful what he brought as far as winning. But these last years he seems just so insecure. Sees Poole contributing to a chip in which he himself was trash in the finals, KD taking his spotlights and sees himself declining. He has become a cancer and at this moment i want him traded, cut, i dont care anymore
Don’t really care how long the suspension is honestly wish there was more fighting it makes rivalries more fun but obviously you can’t off guard punch somebody in the head so some kinda punishment is needed. But personally don’t really care he adds a level of excitement
he’s gonna be on his best behavior for another two seasons then have some kinda freak breakdown that’s gonna get him retired.
Title is crazy P
With 4 rings he probably thinks he’s untouchable.
I agree with almost everything you say except for one important thing, I think Draymond is the second most important GSW player throughout their dynasty years, and he’s not replaceable.
Facts. Klay’s one of my favorite players, but i think he was easier to replace than dray during their run. (Not easy to replace but easier)
@@Jalenciagaaa yeah I mean they’re both hard to replace but that’s part of what made them a dynasty. Imo the synergy between Draymond and Steph was a major driving factor of the GS offence, and Draymond was the most important factor in the warriors defence, most players in NBA history could not have fit that role
@@Jalenciagaaa the splash brothers got all the credit but if you ask me dray and Steph is the better duo in golden state, and tbh I don’t think it’s close. Now if we are factoring in the KD years then it’s a convo for sure.
Aint no one can tell me shit this a top tier P rant
Y’all complain about the league being soft and then complain about the only enforcer in the league, people like draymond have existed for the entire existence of sports, this is a man’s sport when it’s played at the highest level, a suspension yes i get that but legacy ruined? Capppppp he’s a HOF
I stand with Draymond
TELL EM PEEWEE 🗣️
Klay is definitely the most replaceable out of the warriors big 3
Andy Wiggins 😭😭😭😭
i think if they suspended him for the rest of the season it would be enough, we've seen time and time again with dray that no matter how he's punished he's gonna keep reoffending point blank period. i think a full season (well almost full season) of a suspension could probably smack him upside the head and put him back in reality so maybe he'll behave his gosh damn self and not act all emotional like a petty fourth grader. i'm a warriors fan and im done with this shit and half my community because there's a delusional half that's like "we stand with draymond he did nothing wrong blah blah blah" sounding like some steve kerr brainwashed losers. i get it he meant a lot to the team and it part of the original core, but sometimes you can't let people walk all over you, literally and figuratively in this case, and just turn a blind eye. i just wanna see him fixed or out the door.
Honestly idk man at the end of the day nothing gonna change only person who can do sum is curry and i don’t think he wanna betray his brother because off court he such a good person 🤷🏾♂️
I agree that the first thing that most will think of when they hear draymonds name will be the outside of basketball antics. But his legacy isn’t ruined, just hindered. You still have to credit everything he’s done on the court & for that organization, & his antics can’t take away from that. But it is hurting his personal brand/reputation 4sho. Hope this is his last time with the antics
y'all remember when he used sabonis's chest as a jumping pad
that's ausar wiggins 😭
Pissedoffpeewee😭😭
Andy wiggins😂😂😂😭😭
Nobody remember Bill lambieer as the anchor of a 2 time Champion pistons team, they remember him as a butcher. And bc of his ways, its gonna be the same with dray.
Flip the dynasty… Curry for Lamelo, Klay for Lavine, Draymond for… depth lol
Kerr is a hypocrite. One of the best coaches but damn I would not trust him at all because he sure likes to lie and pretend.
Into so fire lol
12:00 ts too funny