Evan is a second generation meta human… his mother had the ability to absorb energy and this power was passed on to Evan, but it also caused his rapid aging. There is a great story in here somewhere.
yeah had great potential! but makes sense after hearing from Al and Miles...it was just slapped together at last min. which is why there's misplaced footage and the main storyline was so weak... they also dropped the ball on exploring how Lex probably applies what he learns from Evan's body to his future cloning experiments
Thanks for this comment. I don't know if they (some fans included) are slow or just not paying attention because Evan's condition was explained in the episode and clearly linked to his mother.
Yeah I love when they are invited onto the show and Al would still be discussing the episode if Rosy hadn’t been continuously saying “thanks good bye”… lol New Cohost? Love “Wednesday” series though so it’s a tough choice…
@@AdmrlLocke well because they created the show so I think they would. im sure for Tom and Michael a lot of days run together. Tom has mentioned how much time each day he was on set. The episodes probably dont always stick out.
@@-M0LE It’s just part of the show, Michael gets on and Welling and Ryan convinces him it’s good and everyone meets in the middle. Except Tom gives 50%-70% more roses than Michael. Lol
Interesting thing of note: Colin Ford, who played 7-year-old Evan, went on to play the young version of Jared Padalecki's characters, Sam Winchester in Supernatural and Cordell Walker in Walker.
@NateKruger small world. I do hope Smallville fans watch Supernatural. I know the patreon here from Australia Karen Apple couldn’t invest in it but it really is an amazing show. ❤️❤️ Part of my growing up. ❤️
Supernatural is a definite must! Just look at how long it ran and fans are still praying for more seasons or a film version. My wife and I still using catch phrases from the show and occasionally look at one another and know the scene that this reality moment is parodying. Supernatural is 🌹🌹🌹on the Rosy metre in my opinion.
Re watching supernatural at the moment and just got to one of the flashback scenes with young sam. THE DUDE IS 27 NOW!!!! time needs to take a second and chill out!
@@user-Balthazar669 Yes. A lot of hardcore Smallville fans just couldn't invest in Supernatural when it aired back in 2005. Some thought it was too dark and more horror oriented. My uncle who is a huge horror movie fan was unsure of Smallville. He wasn't a huge fan of superheros but found Smallville very entertaining and some episodes are quite dark and horror-esque. Smallville and Supernatural were my shows growing up. :)
Interesting fact: Writer Steven S. DeKnight said Ageless was supposed to be about kryptonite zombies. A kryptonite waste sludge would spill in a graveyard, creating the zombies, who'd then surround the Kent farm and Clark would be powerless against them. DeKnight then left to rewrite another script (Onyx?), and when he returned, he discovered the episode got changed to Clark and Lana finding a baby. Needless to say, would have been interesting to see the zombie episode instead. We would finally get a zombie episode in Season 9: Rabid.
During the episode, Chloe implies that Karen was metahuman. She doesn't say it directly, but Clark asks if Karen was material for the Wall of Weird, and Chloe replies that she was suspicious of Karen because she had heard that there were power outages or something when she walked into the computers room.
@@loveinactionkingdomliving5093 Do not worry! I had to purposely go review the episode, because I had a little memory about Chloe mentioning something about it, but I wasn't sure either. The last time I saw the episode was a long time ago, but I had the memory of that dialogue, because of that plot about Chloe having a list of metahumans from Smallville High School, the list that Lex was on. It was familiar to me that Karen was on that list.
@@EvilEmp1re I had to purposely go review the episode, because I had a little memory about Chloe mentioning something about it, but I wasn't sure either. The last time I saw the episode was a long time ago, but I had the memory of that dialogue, because of that plot about Chloe having a list of metahumans from Smallville High School, the list that Lex was on. It was familiar to me that Karen was on that list.
The interesting thing about Smallville is that even the worst episodes have great scenes that further the story, and in the end, I'm always glad I watched it.
I think the best way I can sum up this episode, it's Clark dealing with humans mortality and that there's nothing he can do sometimes. people get old and die.
There was an episode in Season 1 that touched on that more directly I believe. They're at the nursing home and a woman can see a person's future. Clark finds out everyone he loves will be dead as he finds himself standing in a cemetery of his loved ones. Lex finds out his future is covered in blood - particularly pointed that he has blood on his hands and everything he touches dies. A vision so dark that the old lady herself dies. These themes were discussed much earlier in the show.
I feel like an idiot at this point. I don't hate this episode. I feel a great sense of sadness for Lana and Clark at the loss of Evan, but I appreciate pieces of the episode. I like that we see Clark turning to Lex in his time of need, that Lex was compassionate towards Clark and Lana when he delivered the news about Evan's potential fate. I found it interesting that once again, we see the duplicity of Lex in ending. He does something good, and then the bad Lex shows his side, too. I like the way Jonathan helps Clark navigate through "parenting." So, because I can see so many positive things, I don't hate the episode. And by the way, Chloe tells us that Evan's mom affected computers/electrical things when she was near them. I think Evan must have been the product of what Ryan referred to as a "super womb"
I find it interesting that Tom is so critical on Clark being harsh to the "dad" even though he says at the end that had he recorded this now, he would have had some tears. I took it as Clarks passion to the bio-dad not leaving his son since Clark was abandoned by his bio-dad. Great podcast men!
I will be honest, the only thing I kinda liked the episode was the ending where Lex promised Clark and Lana (his friends still at this point) he would share the research But behind closed doors when asked if he is REALLY going to share the research He smirks and comments “eventually” with his tone and expression implying “not really going to share”.
One of my favorite moments in this episode was when Lionel poisoned Genieve. The acting between John and Jane was amazing. I saw the parallels between Clark and Evan especially when Evan tells Clark that he is not his dad. I love how y’all called Al and Miles. All of the actors who played Evan did a great job. The scene between Clark and Lex talking about fatherhood was powerful. Lex saying instead of children he plans on leaving a different legacy. Love the exchange between Sheriff Adams and Clark and Jonathan. Y’all rock.
Happy Tom kept "Ageless" with the Roses despite the tremendous negativity towards this episode! Glad Tom understood the emotional value since Clark's emotions are also completely exponential throughout all the different scenes! Nice to hear from Al & Miles on how much they enjoy Season Five! Thanks for the special appearance from Rosey! Congratulations To KarenIrra M!
I can’t see how this episode was terrible. I guess I’m different. There’s only 1 episode of Smallville I disliked immensely and that’s 5x16 “Hypnotic.” Mainly because the Clana drama really hits a major wall. In this video it says “confirmed by everyone.” Well I’m not in that “everyone.” Well what do you do? lol 😂
Yeah it was great to see that Tom’s time on Smallville left an impact on him so he would perhaps unintentionally get a very similar dog as Shelby (Clarkie)… lol This episode is NOT the worst episode of the series, it has redeeming qualities. The surrogate child that brings Clark and Lana together again, the scene with Lex where he’s suggesting heavily to let him keep the kid to continue experimenting on him (seemingly concerned but layer of I have to extract this science before he’s dead), the bonding with Lana as a mother figure and finally Clark is near a explosion and his clothing is damaged. KarenIrra M was a fantastic guest however still not a fan of Bryce’s disembodied presence on the show.
@@user-Balthazar669 That was my thoughts on the episode as well. I can't wait for the finale! It's going to be a doozy. I myself haven't seen it in ages so I will be watching it in preparation for the podcast. I don't mind Michael's honesty but he must always keep in mind that Smallville was a show that kept so many people and families together. The title of this podcast for one was a bit annoying. "Confirmed by all fans worst episode." The word should have been "most." I didn't feel that way. I loved this episode. I don't see why some people feel the need to piss all over this episode. Okay so to some it wasn't fantastic, but no need to piss all over it. Geez lol :) I remember when this episode aired. I loved it. I've been watching this show since I was 4. I know every line of dialogue, and the names of the episodes. Only 1 episode gets 3 bombs for me. 5x16 "Hypnotic." I cried for weeks after that episode aired. :((
@@tentonmotto6779 According TO YOU the episode had awful pacing, forced drama, and baffling premise. Speak for yourself. I give this episode 3 roses. I guess I look at things differently and don't feel the incessant need to piss on every episode. Like I've said in earlier comments. I grew up watching Smallville since age 4. I know every episode by heart and every word verbatim. Very invested in the show. :) The finale of this season will definitely be free of "pissing." I hope. Getting a bit sick of the negativity portrayed at times. Geez
Chloe quickly mentioned that Evan’s mom was on her wall of weird radar for flickering lights and/or other electronics acting up around her but had nothing concrete so it was as Ryan said, “A super womb” that was why Evan aged quickly.
Clark and Lana were in a car together because in the last episode they decided to give things another try. Clark was harder on the teenage father than we as adults feel he should be because kids are tougher on things they disagree with than adults. They see things as much more black and white. We accept shades of Gray with time but early on when we disagree with something we completely disagree with it. It felt very natural to me for Clark to be overreacting
This episode holds a special place in my preteen heart because Clark Kent + baby is too adorable. But as a grown woman now I can acknowledge that this episode is not the best Smallville has to offer but I do still like the parallels to what could have been Clark’s story and the emotional arc of Evan
For anyone who doesn't know or remember, this is the episode Miles and Al talked about on Michael's Inside of You podcast as the low point of Smallville
ironically he is barely saying anything negative this time! last week we all wanted to explore and unpack and literally everything out of his mouth was negative. . . I think this ep was so bad that he doesn't even know where to start lolol
@dominiccobb2610 I didn’t think this episode was “bad,” at all. I guess there’s something wrong with me. I find hidden meanings in all these episodes. How can people “shit,” on this one. Kind of ruining my childhood for me in a way. I remember I was 6 going on 7 when this episode aired and still remember it to this day. That’s saying something. 👏
@@clairemendoza8082 Art is subjective. If you like something and consider something good, you are entitled to your opinion. But from the point of strict writing analysis (logical analysis), the episode is really bad.
I burst out laughing at work when Tom said they tried really hard. Thanks you guys. I really needed that. This is one of the few episodes I debate skipping on a rewatch. So close to season 5!
I actually get a kick out of this episode I gotta say there are worse, my personal top five worse episodes of Smallville are 8x13 "Power", 5x20 "Fade", 2x19 "Precipice", 7x17 "Sleeper", and 3x07 "Magnetic"
Michael and Tom! You both look a lot healthier and younger than you first did when you started this podcast. At first I couldn't recognize Tom, but now in front of me are Clark and Lex again! Cheers
There's no denying this is one of Smallville's lesser episodes - BUT, it has some cool scenes in it. When Clark stays with Evan in the end and walks out all burned... that's a pretty awesome moment.
Good morning Smallville community! 🎉 Happy Wednesday, nothing better than a little Michael and Tom to start your day, except to maybe end your day 😂 Hello to viewers around the globe 👋 🌎
Yeah Tom is right, it was lazy writing how they got Genevieve off the series so easily. She could get Lionel out of prison which he himself could not do and she just gives up and doesn’t try to retaliate for the poisoning?… Lazy
So, very unpopular opinion, but I've never really had a problem with Ageless. I'd probably give it half a rose even though I know it is one of the most hated episodes of the show. Is the concept a really silly freak of the week, sure. But we're talking about a show where an alien crashes to earth from another planet and has super powers and fights off mutants that are infected by meteor fragments. I suspend disbelief for a lot of stuff. What makes this episode good to me is that it shows what Superman is all about and that is working really hard to save someone against all odds. But in the end, he doesn't. And he has to live with the failure of it.
This concept works really well for a sci fi drama. Though not so much for a Smallville story. I always thought the reason for this episode was to have some catalyst to bring Clark and Lana close together again
The thing is Thirst used to be worse but the creators decided it was too bad to show people so they rewrote it, filmed some extra scenes with Chloe to make it more digestible and worked with existing footage to make it the still bad episode it is today
So, 21mins in the Clark/Chloe scene does answer the Q of how this episode happens, as Chloe reports that the girl who got pregnant was on her "wall of weird" after she had been noticed for having "shorting out monitors a few times in the computer dept"... so I think we're in freak of the week kryptonite super womb territory.
💣💣💣💣This episode was so bad it gets an extra bomb. The kid's mother could absorb electrical energy and somehow that translates to her child absorbing energy to age, which is stupid.
It's a fact that cell division requires energy to occur, so I think the increased cell division is a cool idea, I think it's nice that they created a way to evolve the lore of meteor infection in a unique way.
I have a soft spot for this episode. Baby Evan was the most precious and adorable baby, favorite "guest star" ever. I liked the call back to the pilot with Clark and Lana finding Evan in a field like Jonathan and Martha found Clark. Seing Clark & Lana bonding, taking care of Evan was heartwarming to me, the kitchen scene was the cutest! I thought it was interesting how Evan echoed Lana and Clark's experience as orphans and how this episode explored the idea of Clark having children in the future. The loss of Evan contributed to Clark's emotional growth a reminder that he can't save everyone. It also humanized Clark when we see him caring for Evan, struggling with his mortality and dealing with loss and grief.
I liked how at the end of this episode they showed how different Clark and Lex's legacies will be and how Lex played in Clark's face. Atp Lex was just pretending to be good to Clark. I could tell how much he wanted Clark to still see him as a good person but it was a facade. Also the Lionel and Genevieve scene when he tried to poisoned her was chief kiss, Lionel was brutal!
Well Lex played Clark as to be good friend when trying to prove which he knows about his secret, but not admitting too him out of resenting when not fully trusting him enough on his side and not being completely honest with him since in leech about his special abilities (when he didn’t have with him got passed along) which cause to feel betrayed and upset
there's a scene where Chloe explains that Evan's mom is always causing power surges everywhere she goes so you're supposed to just connect the dots that she's the reason for Evan's rapid aging. Her powers passed on to him
I never thought this was a hot take... until i watched this Talkville season. But, Season four was my favorite season. It's hilarious how much they hate it.
Like I tell all my friends the first few seasons are kind of all over the place but it tightens up and finds it's groove by season 5. You can tell when the show got better money because they in turn got better effects and better writing.
I'm sure I'll get crucified, but I actually do like this episode... A lot of folk say that this episode was just an excuse to get Clark and Lana back together, however, it was more than that... Clark talking to his Dad for advice and this story does pull on your heartstrings at times... People forget that Smallville isn't just action and adventure... It also is a drama, fantasy and sci-fi... Granted, there are a lot of holes in this episode, no question... That being said, it was a pretty nice episode... Also, the confrontations between Lionel and Genevieve were very good... For me, I give it 🌹 (1 rose)... There have been way worse episodes than this, trust me... It was funny to hear Miles and Al's reactions when Mike told them that they were recapping this episode 😂😂😂😂... #LoveThePodcastFellas #TalkvilleWednesdays
the vampire ep was probably the worst (1) for execution and (2) for completely dropping the ball on incorporating the really large and complex real vampire storylines that exist in DC universe 🤦♀️ tbh, the ep itself isn't produced poorly, it's just that the story was dumb. but it's not like it had bad direction or editing etc
@asyouwish3636 Facts!!!... The vampire episode was 🗑!!!... And yea, this episode had a lot of holes in it... The acting was actually great, however, you're right about them dropping the ball on this episode storyline-wise
Thirst to me though it is bad is better than this episode. This episode was shoehorned together with to many convenient plots. I thought the teen child actor was terrible. He left his mouth open in every scene, Just was not a good actor. Thirst was a bad script but at least the actor (Kristen Kreuk) was good, there’s an episode in season 5 which is just as bad as Ageless, Thirst, it’s called Tomb.
I don't understand the hate on this episode. I think it's actually a decent enough. I felt sad for the kid and it had a message that Clark can't save everyone. Which is true, so I would give this 1 rose.
I'm sure I remember it being addressed in the episode. Why the baby was a super freak. He was the second generation meteor freak. I'm sure Chloe addressed it. Did something get edited out from an earlier version in what you watched?
Hey guys, I can't wait for the last episode of the season. BTW, I was the one who left the SHRED GUITAR CHALLENGE MESSAGE FOR MICHAEL sometime when he is in my area again for a convection. Are you up for the challenge Michael? 😀 Cheers, Tim
@@luisagudelo677Lana joins a vampire sorority and briefly becomes one herself. She feeds on Clark and temporarily gains his powers, which she then uses to vaporize the other vampire sisters before Clark finds a “cure” for her. At the end, Chloe writes the story to get a job at the Daily Planet.
Hi Tom, Michael, and Ryan. Love the podcast. Tuning in from So. Cal USA 🇺🇸 This episode is 3 roses 🌹 for me. I remember when this episode aired at age 7. A few things I’d like to mention about the episode. First of all Tom/Clark connecting with a baby was so sweet 🥹 it made my heart melt. He’s so natural with children. In the hospital scene where Lana is holding him and she hands him to Clark and the baby stops crying 😢 was my favorite scene. Oh and the one where Clark is changing his diaper was hilarious 😂 Tom’s facial expressions are always on point for sure. Previous episode “Blank,” centered more on Clark’s relationship with Chloe and what is in store for their future. While this episode was centered more on Clark and Lana and what will their future hold? Will they won’t they thing. Up to this point in season 4 there hasn’t been a ton of Clark and Lana scenes due to Jason dating Lana and Lois moving in with the Kent’s. It’s been an unusual year in Smallville for sure. Then again nothing is normal in Smallville lol 😂 Huge Chloe fan here and can’t wait to see you 3 watch her character continue to grow. The scene on the Windmill in Chandler’s field was amazing 🤩 Evan telling Clark he wished he could be his father was so sweet. Clark indeed would make a great father. Clark’s moment with Johnathon and Martha on the porch asking them about how parenthood changed them was done exceptionally well it thought. That’s the biggest take away of this episode for me. Some people are meant to be parents. Others are not. Lex trying to help them out makes me still hold on to the fact that Lex at this stage is truly trying to be there for his friends and to help them in any way he possibly can. The last scene with Lex was pretty chilling and leaves the audience wondering what Lex is up to. Does he still have ulterior motives? Are we still dealing with evil Lex from the episode Onyx? It made me wonder. John Glover’s scenes with Jane Seymour was outstanding. It’s so cool to see 2 experienced and veteran actors in their element facing off with one another. There’s nothing like it. I loved it when Lionel said “what do you want me to do give him a good spanking?” I knew he poisoned her wine 🍷 the moment he didn’t take a sip. Clearly Jason and Genevieve underestimate Lionel. They have no idea who they’re dealing with. He’s already 10 steps ahead of everyone else. He just doesn’t let anyone know it. These filler episodes might not be to some the most enjoyable but they have their place. They are meant to keep the audience engaged until the season finale where everything is revealed and everyone’s fate is set in motion. All the events that transpired this season make sense in the season finale where Clark will unite the stones of power which will eventually lead to the Fortress of Solitude. There aren’t many episodes of Smallville I dislike. There is one in 5x16 called “Hypnotic,” that I will give 3 bombs 💣 to. Acting was amazing but hated it. You will see why when you get to that point. I will give you a hint. It made me cry 😢 for weeks. Only Smallville episode I gave 3 bombs 💣 I really hope you gentlemen have Jensen and Jane Seymour come on the podcast before you finish the season. Even if they can only come on for 5 minutes I will be happy! Take care guys and can’t wait to keep tuning in on the podcast! You 3 are awesome 👏 I didn’t see how this episode was bad. Sorry guys but I’m not one of those “everyone.” To each their own I guess.
@appleel7937 thank you 🙏 I can’t wait for the finale! I know for sure Michael will at least give it in the roses 🌹 rating. I was 4 when I started watching Smallville in 2001 and know every line and dialogue! ❤️❤️
Great comment👏❤, I support and share your opinion and that of other few fans for this episode. I'm not even one of those "everyone"🙂. I too love Clark's sweetness towards the child which is Tom's sweetness as we can see him with his children in real life.❤❤❤
I'm so glad I'm not alone. I loved Clark with the baby. It was sweet and fun to watch. I also don't think there is something wrong with those of us who like this episode! Lol
@@Kat6kids Clark with kids definitely pulls at my heartstrings. Like the episode 5x18 that I believe Tom directed with the little blonde girl who had powers of shattering glass. There's only 1 episode I give 3 bombs 2 and that's 5x16 "Hypnotic." I cried for weeks when that episode aired. I remember when 4x20 "Ageless," aired. I was 7 and remember everything about it. :)
On the plus side, I thought the actor who played the teenage Evan did a really great job. That can be hard to come in as a guest actor for one episode and give a notable performance (especially as a young person). Kudos to him!
Honestly I'm surprised this episode is universally hated and called the worst. I really enjoyed it and connected emotionally with both Evan and Clark & Lana. The actual plot is whatever, but what it shows for the characters is what I remember. We see the last remnants of good Lex and see how much bad Lex is now taking over. We're treated to glimpses of how Clark would be as a father due to having Johnathan as his father, as well as seeing Lana care so much for someone no matter what weird biology they have. I would definitely give it a 🌹
big props to the michael this episode, you can tell he was trying to be much more positive for the fans, its kinda funny it happened during the worst episode of the show though lol
Look this episode isn’t the greatest but it definitely isn’t the worst episode of Smallville. I don’t know why people are making a big stink over this episode. To me the worst Smallville episode is the one that stars Amy Adam’s, don’t worry I don’t think it’s her fault she did the best she could, the one where she eats everything and tries to eat everyone
They explain how Evan has powers… his mom was a meteor freak who could give off energy… Evan is a just like his mom but slightly different with storing energy
Karen irra you were AWSOME!! Great shout out to the IMDb message boards, they were such a BIG part of my Smallville addiction back in the day. Miss those days and all my IMDb friends as well ❤❤❤❤❤❤ I would not ever give you heat as Michael said, for not liking an episode and giving bombs, I respect and appreciate your opinion. I'm happy in my own little Smallville bubble, and as I do not give bombs, it would get only one rose from me.....just like Tom 😀😀❤❤
I've been waiting for this one. Worst episode of Smallville ever. It was just so stooopid! I remember this from when it first aired and it being so bad. The only good scene was Lionel poisoning the Medicine Woman.
Clark has had so many people die on him; the telepathic kid, the teleporting girl, the cave skinwalker girl, and now this fast aging kid. This would traumatize any normal high school kid. He must have super emotional healing as well...
Two new shirts! 1) Ryantist: "Smallville PSA: Teens don't get pregnant. You'll die and the town will explode." 😂😂😂 2) Rosey: "Say what it is! Don't be nice if you're not gonna be nice!" With Lex Luthor from Season 3 looking nuts!
My favorite thing about this episode is imagining the scene that must take place JUST after the end where the sheriff comes back and says "Okay, Kents, we found a foster placement. Where's the kid?"
I mean it's not like the production quality was bad...but like, why? why did this story need to be told? i would have loved if they tied it into Lex's cloning experiments
In season 4, by the time Lois Lane had been introduced and Chloe Sullivan found out Clark's secret, the show should have started having Clark and Lana drift apart, not have them act like surrogate parents to a kid. It's redundant to keep putting Clark and Lana in situations that would, on another show, imply that they are "destined for each other," when the entire audience has known since season 1 that Lana was not going to be the woman that Clark would end up with. This again illustrates the mistake the show made in dragging Clana out too long, because the deeper you dig that hole, the harder it's gonna be to dig your way out of it later on.
Miles and Al - they are doing Wednesday Season 2. Beetlejuice Beetlejuice. They are the hot guys in Hollywood right now. But they are always available for Rosi and Tom. They know where they are coming from. Super characters!
Season 4 was my favorite. As a teen in the 2000s this season spoke to me lol. Great tunes, crushes and high school fkn football lol everything a teen boy needs
This episode was pretty odd, but I felt the most compelling part of the episode was with all the powers Clark has, he has to come to terms with the fact that he can’t save everyone.
I just rewatched this Smallville episode. In fact this is the episode my husband warned me about in advance. Yes, this was one of the worst. 😂 But now being a mom to 2 kids, 10 and under, I was emotional during the scene when Clark talks to his parents about if he can even have kids because he's an alien...that got to me (but then I thought of his future with Lois, and then the Crisis on infinite Earth's scene you did years later, where Clark and Lois have 2 kids, Clark is raising his kids like his parents did, and I was happy again.) Also, I have a tendency to feel things very deeply, even while watching movies and TV shows (one reason Im passionate about my observations and opinions.) I love Smallville despite a few bad episodes, and it's a comfort show for me. Poking fun of the episodes can be fun too. I do like your honesty Michael, and Tom is awesome. Keep up the great work guys - Talk Ville is one of the highlights of my week. ❤
Everyone please think about it this way: The worst episode of Smallville is always better than no episode of Smallville.
100 percent
How about that?💯
Or think of it like this. Every episode is bad so enjoy the train wreck
I’m a Karen 😅 trying to make it a thing, a fan who thinks the range of episodes is from good to amazing.
Amy Adams episode by far worst
Cmon, who can forget the "Hook" ending when the kid said to Clark. "I wish you were my father." That gets me everytime.
Blah! It was done better with Connor.
Makes it all the more sad, that Clark completely forgets about him right after :(
Evan is a second generation meta human… his mother had the ability to absorb energy and this power was passed on to Evan, but it also caused his rapid aging. There is a great story in here somewhere.
Super electromagnetism at it's finest. Also explains how Evan was able to talk coherently and be able to read. He absorbs everything around him.
yeah had great potential! but makes sense after hearing from Al and Miles...it was just slapped together at last min. which is why there's misplaced footage and the main storyline was so weak... they also dropped the ball on exploring how Lex probably applies what he learns from Evan's body to his future cloning experiments
They literally said that in the show, and yet again Michael and Tom have no idea
Thanks for this comment. I don't know if they (some fans included) are slow or just not paying attention because Evan's condition was explained in the episode and clearly linked to his mother.
Exactly!!
Its amazing Al and Miles remember so much from 20 years ago. one of the best parts
Yeah I love when they are invited onto the show and Al would still be discussing the episode if Rosy hadn’t been continuously saying “thanks good bye”… lol
New Cohost? Love “Wednesday” series though so it’s a tough choice…
They always remember far more than Tom or Rosy.
@@AdmrlLocke well because they created the show so I think they would. im sure for Tom and Michael a lot of days run together. Tom has mentioned how much time each day he was on set. The episodes probably dont always stick out.
@@-M0LE It’s just part of the show, Michael gets on and Welling and Ryan convinces him it’s good and everyone meets in the middle. Except Tom gives 50%-70% more roses than Michael. Lol
Whenever they join for a call it’s a guaranteed great pod
Al laughing in the background was probably my favorite part of the phone call 🤣🤣
Interesting thing of note: Colin Ford, who played 7-year-old Evan, went on to play the young version of Jared Padalecki's characters, Sam Winchester in Supernatural and Cordell Walker in Walker.
@NateKruger small world. I do hope Smallville fans watch Supernatural. I know the patreon here from Australia Karen Apple couldn’t invest in it but it really is an amazing show. ❤️❤️ Part of my growing up. ❤️
Supernatural is a definite must!
Just look at how long it ran and fans are still praying for more seasons or a film version.
My wife and I still using catch phrases from the show and occasionally look at one another and know the scene that this reality moment is parodying.
Supernatural is 🌹🌹🌹on the Rosy metre in my opinion.
Re watching supernatural at the moment and just got to one of the flashback scenes with young sam. THE DUDE IS 27 NOW!!!! time needs to take a second and chill out!
@@neiljackson1717 Gosh I know. Time flies. Seems only yesterday that the Pilot of Smallville aired. :)
@@user-Balthazar669 Yes. A lot of hardcore Smallville fans just couldn't invest in Supernatural when it aired back in 2005. Some thought it was too dark and more horror oriented. My uncle who is a huge horror movie fan was unsure of Smallville. He wasn't a huge fan of superheros but found Smallville very entertaining and some episodes are quite dark and horror-esque. Smallville and Supernatural were my shows growing up. :)
Interesting fact: Writer Steven S. DeKnight said Ageless was supposed to be about kryptonite zombies. A kryptonite waste sludge would spill in a graveyard, creating the zombies, who'd then surround the Kent farm and Clark would be powerless against them. DeKnight then left to rewrite another script (Onyx?), and when he returned, he discovered the episode got changed to Clark and Lana finding a baby. Needless to say, would have been interesting to see the zombie episode instead. We would finally get a zombie episode in Season 9: Rabid.
Who rewrote it?
Damn, that would have been fun, sounds like one of the best episodes of Supernatural... Cromaton or something with the police station and the zombies.
There is a Smallville novel about kryptonite zombies
@@thribs Bro that is the sickest pfp
During the episode, Chloe implies that Karen was metahuman. She doesn't say it directly, but Clark asks if Karen was material for the Wall of Weird, and Chloe replies that she was suspicious of Karen because she had heard that there were power outages or something when she walked into the computers room.
I’m glad someone made this comment. I was raging the whole episode cause they kept saying we will never know 😂
Thank you! I don't think they pay attention! It happens a lot😢
@@loveinactionkingdomliving5093 Do not worry! I had to purposely go review the episode, because I had a little memory about Chloe mentioning something about it, but I wasn't sure either. The last time I saw the episode was a long time ago, but I had the memory of that dialogue, because of that plot about Chloe having a list of metahumans from Smallville High School, the list that Lex was on. It was familiar to me that Karen was on that list.
@@EvilEmp1re I had to purposely go review the episode, because I had a little memory about Chloe mentioning something about it, but I wasn't sure either. The last time I saw the episode was a long time ago, but I had the memory of that dialogue, because of that plot about Chloe having a list of metahumans from Smallville High School, the list that Lex was on. It was familiar to me that Karen was on that list.
11:56 Al's lowkey "Oh God" when he heard which episode they were watching just killed me. 😂😂😂
The interesting thing about Smallville is that even the worst episodes have great scenes that further the story, and in the end, I'm always glad I watched it.
I agree!
Yes!!!😀
Very true :)
I think the best way I can sum up this episode, it's Clark dealing with humans mortality and that there's nothing he can do sometimes. people get old and die.
I love that insight, it’s spot on
There was an episode in Season 1 that touched on that more directly I believe. They're at the nursing home and a woman can see a person's future. Clark finds out everyone he loves will be dead as he finds himself standing in a cemetery of his loved ones. Lex finds out his future is covered in blood - particularly pointed that he has blood on his hands and everything he touches dies. A vision so dark that the old lady herself dies.
These themes were discussed much earlier in the show.
I feel like an idiot at this point. I don't hate this episode. I feel a great sense of sadness for Lana and Clark at the loss of Evan, but I appreciate pieces of the episode. I like that we see Clark turning to Lex in his time of need, that Lex was compassionate towards Clark and Lana when he delivered the news about Evan's potential fate. I found it interesting that once again, we see the duplicity of Lex in ending. He does something good, and then the bad Lex shows his side, too. I like the way Jonathan helps Clark navigate through "parenting." So, because I can see so many positive things, I don't hate the episode. And by the way, Chloe tells us that Evan's mom affected computers/electrical things when she was near them. I think Evan must have been the product of what Ryan referred to as a "super womb"
It's because you actually paid attention. 👌
I find it interesting that Tom is so critical on Clark being harsh to the "dad" even though he says at the end that had he recorded this now, he would have had some tears. I took it as Clarks passion to the bio-dad not leaving his son since Clark was abandoned by his bio-dad. Great podcast men!
The reason I liked this episode was because I thought it was sweet how Clark and Lana really took to Evan and it was sad when he died.
I will be honest, the only thing I kinda liked the episode was the ending where Lex promised Clark and Lana (his friends still at this point) he would share the research
But behind closed doors when asked if he is REALLY going to share the research
He smirks and comments “eventually” with his tone and expression implying “not really going to share”.
Yeah that was like the only good thing
Lionel returning to his good (bad) old self was pretty good too.
*Keeping that science for his cloning projects*
One of my favorite moments in this episode was when Lionel poisoned Genieve. The acting between John and Jane was amazing. I saw the parallels between Clark and Evan especially when Evan tells Clark that he is not his dad. I love how y’all called Al and Miles. All of the actors who played Evan did a great job. The scene between Clark and Lex talking about fatherhood was powerful. Lex saying instead of children he plans on leaving a different legacy. Love the exchange between Sheriff Adams and Clark and Jonathan. Y’all rock.
Glover and Jane Seymore are fantastic together, shame that [the writers] didn't tap into that chemistry and have them in scenes together more!
Happy Tom kept "Ageless" with the Roses despite the tremendous negativity towards this
episode! Glad Tom understood the emotional value since Clark's emotions are also completely exponential throughout all the different scenes! Nice to hear from Al & Miles on how much they enjoy Season Five!
Thanks for the special appearance from Rosey!
Congratulations To KarenIrra M!
I can’t see how this episode was terrible. I guess I’m different. There’s only 1 episode of Smallville I disliked immensely and that’s 5x16 “Hypnotic.” Mainly because the Clana drama really hits a major wall. In this video it says “confirmed by everyone.” Well I’m not in that “everyone.” Well what do you do? lol 😂
The baffling premise, forced drama, awful pacing, OOC behavior, there is pretty much nothing redeeming about this episode. Same with the next one.
Yeah it was great to see that Tom’s time on Smallville left an impact on him so he would perhaps unintentionally get a very similar dog as Shelby (Clarkie)… lol
This episode is NOT the worst episode of the series, it has redeeming qualities. The surrogate child that brings Clark and Lana together again, the scene with Lex where he’s suggesting heavily to let him keep the kid to continue experimenting on him (seemingly concerned but layer of I have to extract this science before he’s dead), the bonding with Lana as a mother figure and finally Clark is near a explosion and his clothing is damaged.
KarenIrra M was a fantastic guest however still not a fan of Bryce’s disembodied presence on the show.
@@user-Balthazar669 That was my thoughts on the episode as well. I can't wait for the finale! It's going to be a doozy. I myself haven't seen it in ages so I will be watching it in preparation for the podcast.
I don't mind Michael's honesty but he must always keep in mind that Smallville was a show that kept so many people and families together. The title of this podcast for one was a bit annoying. "Confirmed by all fans worst episode." The word should have been "most." I didn't feel that way. I loved this episode. I don't see why some people feel the need to piss all over this episode. Okay so to some it wasn't fantastic, but no need to piss all over it. Geez lol :) I remember when this episode aired. I loved it. I've been watching this show since I was 4. I know every line of dialogue, and the names of the episodes. Only 1 episode gets 3 bombs for me. 5x16 "Hypnotic." I cried for weeks after that episode aired. :((
@@tentonmotto6779 According TO YOU the episode had awful pacing, forced drama, and baffling premise. Speak for yourself.
I give this episode 3 roses. I guess I look at things differently and don't feel the incessant need to piss on every episode. Like I've said in earlier comments. I grew up watching Smallville since age 4. I know every episode by heart and every word verbatim. Very invested in the show. :)
The finale of this season will definitely be free of "pissing." I hope. Getting a bit sick of the negativity portrayed at times. Geez
The best part about this Talkville episode is no Ads!
I love when they call Al and Miles. :) Always great input!
Ageless is so nonsensical that I burst out laughing countless times at unintentionally funny moments. So bad, it's good.
😂
Chloe quickly mentioned that Evan’s mom was on her wall of weird radar for flickering lights and/or other electronics acting up around her but had nothing concrete so it was as Ryan said, “A super womb” that was why Evan aged quickly.
Yep it was subtle but they did get the meteor connection in there.
No explanation for the whole situation but something.
they keep saying in the episode “we will never know” That scene basically explains it.
Lana is a bullseye for accidents and evil boyfriends. She better be careful choosing a spouse.. oh wait...
If you're talking about the comics, there's nothing wrong with Pete Ross at least!
@@tornadochaser2457 They probably mean that she marries Lex in the Smallville comics.
@@GabePuratekuta I don't know about the Smallville comics. I automatically assumed it was referring to Lana marrying Lex when he's villainous.
@@GabePuratekutaShe doesn't marry him in the comics she marries him in the show
Clark and Lana were in a car together because in the last episode they decided to give things another try. Clark was harder on the teenage father than we as adults feel he should be because kids are tougher on things they disagree with than adults. They see things as much more black and white. We accept shades of Gray with time but early on when we disagree with something we completely disagree with it. It felt very natural to me for Clark to be overreacting
This episode holds a special place in my preteen heart because Clark Kent + baby is too adorable. But as a grown woman now I can acknowledge that this episode is not the best Smallville has to offer but I do still like the parallels to what could have been Clark’s story and the emotional arc of Evan
For anyone who doesn't know or remember, this is the episode Miles and Al talked about on Michael's Inside of You podcast as the low point of Smallville
Finally Michael can shit on a Smallville episode and be fully vindicated
ironically he is barely saying anything negative this time! last week we all wanted to explore and unpack and literally everything out of his mouth was negative. . . I think this ep was so bad that he doesn't even know where to start lolol
@@asyouwish3636Michael is basically like "The proof is in the tape, need I say more?"
@dominiccobb2610 I didn’t think this episode was “bad,” at all. I guess there’s something wrong with me. I find hidden meanings in all these episodes. How can people “shit,” on this one. Kind of ruining my childhood for me in a way. I remember I was 6 going on 7 when this episode aired and still remember it to this day. That’s saying something. 👏
He's been right about every season 4 episode he has crapped on, minus Blank.
@@clairemendoza8082 Art is subjective. If you like something and consider something good, you are entitled to your opinion. But from the point of strict writing analysis (logical analysis), the episode is really bad.
Not gonna lie, seeing Tom's dog was my favorite part.
I burst out laughing at work when Tom said they tried really hard. Thanks you guys. I really needed that. This is one of the few episodes I debate skipping on a rewatch. So close to season 5!
I actually get a kick out of this episode I gotta say there are worse, my personal top five worse episodes of Smallville are 8x13 "Power", 5x20 "Fade", 2x19 "Precipice", 7x17 "Sleeper", and 3x07 "Magnetic"
Glover's hair is a character all its own this whole series.
😂
Michael and Tom! You both look a lot healthier and younger than you first did when you started this podcast. At first I couldn't recognize Tom, but now in front of me are Clark and Lex again! Cheers
The episode with the guy who replicates high school, kidnaps his classmates, and doesn't want to move on is pretty bad also.
Pretty dark though when he just pushes the students over and they just shatter.
@@corbin_4738I just didn't like that storyline at all. The other stuff that's going on in the episode is more interesting to me.
That's the next one 💀
@@corbin_4738 I watched this recently and it was so gross 😭😭
There's no denying this is one of Smallville's lesser episodes - BUT, it has some cool scenes in it. When Clark stays with Evan in the end and walks out all burned... that's a pretty awesome moment.
Good morning Smallville community! 🎉 Happy Wednesday, nothing better than a little Michael and Tom to start your day, except to maybe end your day 😂 Hello to viewers around the globe 👋 🌎
Tom on the wine poison scene: this was dumb
Also Tom on the wine poison scene: Yeah that was Ryan's favorite
Yeah Tom is right, it was lazy writing how they got Genevieve off the series so easily. She could get Lionel out of prison which he himself could not do and she just gives up and doesn’t try to retaliate for the poisoning?…
Lazy
☠️☠️☠️
So, very unpopular opinion, but I've never really had a problem with Ageless. I'd probably give it half a rose even though I know it is one of the most hated episodes of the show. Is the concept a really silly freak of the week, sure. But we're talking about a show where an alien crashes to earth from another planet and has super powers and fights off mutants that are infected by meteor fragments. I suspend disbelief for a lot of stuff. What makes this episode good to me is that it shows what Superman is all about and that is working really hard to save someone against all odds. But in the end, he doesn't. And he has to live with the failure of it.
This concept works really well for a sci fi drama. Though not so much for a Smallville story. I always thought the reason for this episode was to have some catalyst to bring Clark and Lana close together again
Rosey Puppy Cameo Tom's Dog❤️ Definitely a Highlight of this one 🌹💙❤️🤘
This episode should’ve been primarily about the Teague’s and maybe their backstory so that the finale would’ve carried more weight.
Shout out to everyone who brought their dogs or babies on the screen to join!!! So cute 🥰🥰🥰
By default, any episode featuring mostly Kristin Kreuk is an automatic 10 BUNDLES OF ROSES
My Dream is for the 11th season to be animated with the voices of the original actors. One last dance please universe 💫
Clark walked out of the smoke epically. 😂
I remember this episode. This is the closest that Clark and Lana ever have of a child together.
Yeah and it was totally ridiculous
🤗 I can't wait for Tom to say something about Clark's clothes from the explosion! 🤣
lol he commented on his hair! 🤣
tbh, I agree about his hair for the entire ep except for the explosion scene I thought he looked great! lol
Ageless is bad, but Thirst is the worst in my opinion. Even Carrie Fisher couldn't save that one.
At least Thirst introduced the Daily Planet to the show's storylines. Ageless was an utter waste aside from 5 minutes.
Yeah it's awful, unfortunately it aired on my 14th birthday
Thirst, Spell, and Ageless are just the worst.
The thing is Thirst used to be worse but the creators decided it was too bad to show people so they rewrote it, filmed some extra scenes with Chloe to make it more digestible and worked with existing footage to make it the still bad episode it is today
@@DanKeeleyMusicTo me spell is not in the same category as ageless. Now Tomb in season 5 on the other hand smh 2/10 episode.
Rosie, never stop being honest. I think I speak for a lot of Smallville fans who agree with your assessment of episodes. So, keep being honest.
So we’re not gonna talk about how Lana didn’t ask Clark how he got on the windmill so fast to save her?
Lionel's back in the game! The only redeeming thing in this episode :D
I appreciate Michael not beating a dead horse on this one lol ❤ love the podcast as always guys 🙏🏻
I've been waiting for this one. Like a trainwreck.
What Rosey said about Supernatural having bad episodes is so true. It’s one of my friends and my favorite series and we hate like half of it haha.
So, 21mins in the Clark/Chloe scene does answer the Q of how this episode happens, as Chloe reports that the girl who got pregnant was on her "wall of weird" after she had been noticed for having "shorting out monitors a few times in the computer dept"... so I think we're in freak of the week kryptonite super womb territory.
My favorite scene is when Clark was changing the babies diaper and the baby shot wee wee about 2 feet in the air! Awesome!
💣💣💣💣This episode was so bad it gets an extra bomb. The kid's mother could absorb electrical energy and somehow that translates to her child absorbing energy to age, which is stupid.
It's a fact that cell division requires energy to occur, so I think the increased cell division is a cool idea, I think it's nice that they created a way to evolve the lore of meteor infection in a unique way.
I have a soft spot for this episode. Baby Evan was the most precious and adorable baby, favorite "guest star" ever. I liked the call back to the pilot with Clark and Lana finding Evan in a field like Jonathan and Martha found Clark. Seing Clark & Lana bonding, taking care of Evan was heartwarming to me, the kitchen scene was the cutest! I thought it was interesting how Evan echoed Lana and Clark's experience as orphans and how this episode explored the idea of Clark having children in the future. The loss of Evan contributed to Clark's emotional growth a reminder that he can't save everyone. It also humanized Clark when we see him caring for Evan, struggling with his mortality and dealing with loss and grief.
I liked how at the end of this episode they showed how different Clark and Lex's legacies will be and how Lex played in Clark's face. Atp Lex was just pretending to be good to Clark. I could tell how much he wanted Clark to still see him as a good person but it was a facade. Also the Lionel and Genevieve scene when he tried to poisoned her was chief kiss, Lionel was brutal!
Well Lex played Clark as to be good friend when trying to prove which he knows about his secret, but not admitting too him out of resenting when not fully trusting him enough on his side and not being completely honest with him since in leech about his special abilities (when he didn’t have with him got passed along) which cause to feel betrayed and upset
there's a scene where Chloe explains that Evan's mom is always causing power surges everywhere she goes so you're supposed to just connect the dots that she's the reason for Evan's rapid aging. Her powers passed on to him
That still doesn't make any sense tho...she had some kinda electromagnetic power but her kid ages rapidly?? 🤷🏿♂️
@@brookswilliams5239I guess you could say the energy from her made him grow faster? I dunno, it's a bit of a stretch.
I’m really glad they acknowledge how emotional it all is to watch a child go through this.
I never thought this was a hot take... until i watched this Talkville season. But, Season four was my favorite season. It's hilarious how much they hate it.
Season 4 had some of the best AND the worst episodes of the series.
You can never be too honest Michael. I would rather be struck with the truth than embraced with a lie.
They should always ask the patreon guest their favourite episode!
Like I tell all my friends the first few seasons are kind of all over the place but it tightens up and finds it's groove by season 5. You can tell when the show got better money because they in turn got better effects and better writing.
I'm sure I'll get crucified, but I actually do like this episode... A lot of folk say that this episode was just an excuse to get Clark and Lana back together, however, it was more than that... Clark talking to his Dad for advice and this story does pull on your heartstrings at times... People forget that Smallville isn't just action and adventure... It also is a drama, fantasy and sci-fi... Granted, there are a lot of holes in this episode, no question... That being said, it was a pretty nice episode... Also, the confrontations between Lionel and Genevieve were very good... For me, I give it 🌹 (1 rose)... There have been way worse episodes than this, trust me... It was funny to hear Miles and Al's reactions when Mike told them that they were recapping this episode 😂😂😂😂... #LoveThePodcastFellas #TalkvilleWednesdays
the vampire ep was probably the worst (1) for execution and (2) for completely dropping the ball on incorporating the really large and complex real vampire storylines that exist in DC universe 🤦♀️ tbh, the ep itself isn't produced poorly, it's just that the story was dumb. but it's not like it had bad direction or editing etc
@asyouwish3636 Facts!!!... The vampire episode was 🗑!!!... And yea, this episode had a lot of holes in it... The acting was actually great, however, you're right about them dropping the ball on this episode storyline-wise
Thirst to me though it is bad is better than this episode. This episode was shoehorned together with to many convenient plots. I thought the teen child actor was terrible. He left his mouth open in every scene, Just was not a good actor. Thirst was a bad script but at least the actor (Kristen Kreuk) was good, there’s an episode in season 5 which is just as bad as Ageless, Thirst, it’s called Tomb.
@@TheSupermannbatman I feel you on that... And I definitely agree that TOMB was awful lol
I didn't think it was that bad, either. Season six was worse in it's entirety.
I don't understand the hate on this episode.
I think it's actually a decent enough.
I felt sad for the kid and it had a message that Clark can't save everyone.
Which is true, so I would give this 1 rose.
I believe Lex uses his research on Evan to Clone himself
Only 5 seconds in... I love how it starts with just Al apologising. :D
Rosie: let's call Al
Al: talk to Miles
Miles: I was my hands of this episode. I had nothing to do with it
😅😅
I'm sure I remember it being addressed in the episode. Why the baby was a super freak. He was the second generation meteor freak. I'm sure Chloe addressed it. Did something get edited out from an earlier version in what you watched?
Many thanks to Rosey, Ryan, Tom, Al and Karen! 🦸
Hey guys, I can't wait for the last episode of the season.
BTW, I was the one who left the SHRED GUITAR CHALLENGE MESSAGE FOR MICHAEL sometime when he is in my area again for a convection.
Are you up for the challenge Michael? 😀
Cheers,
Tim
Actually, Thirst was the worst-this was the second worst.
Remind me whats thirst about
@@luisagudelo677Lana joins a vampire sorority and briefly becomes one herself. She feeds on Clark and temporarily gains his powers, which she then uses to vaporize the other vampire sisters before Clark finds a “cure” for her.
At the end, Chloe writes the story to get a job at the Daily Planet.
@@spencergsmith oh God yes that is the worst one, so much so that I blocked it from my memory 😆
Thirst is bad, but I think "Hero" (aka the Stride gum commercial) is worse.
It’s so fun seeing IMDb message board members on the show!
Hi Tom, Michael, and Ryan. Love the podcast. Tuning in from So. Cal USA 🇺🇸
This episode is 3 roses 🌹 for me.
I remember when this episode aired at age 7. A few things I’d like to mention about the episode.
First of all Tom/Clark connecting with a baby was so sweet 🥹 it made my heart melt. He’s so natural with children. In the hospital scene where Lana is holding him and she hands him to Clark and the baby stops crying 😢 was my favorite scene. Oh and the one where Clark is changing his diaper was hilarious 😂 Tom’s facial expressions are always on point for sure.
Previous episode “Blank,” centered more on Clark’s relationship with Chloe and what is in store for their future. While this episode was centered more on Clark and Lana and what will their future hold? Will they won’t they thing. Up to this point in season 4 there hasn’t been a ton of Clark and Lana scenes due to Jason dating Lana and Lois moving in with the Kent’s. It’s been an unusual year in Smallville for sure. Then again nothing is normal in Smallville lol 😂 Huge Chloe fan here and can’t wait to see you 3 watch her character continue to grow.
The scene on the Windmill in Chandler’s field was amazing 🤩 Evan telling Clark he wished he could be his father was so sweet. Clark indeed would make a great father. Clark’s moment with Johnathon and Martha on the porch asking them about how parenthood changed them was done exceptionally well it thought. That’s the biggest take away of this episode for me. Some people are meant to be parents. Others are not.
Lex trying to help them out makes me still hold on to the fact that Lex at this stage is truly trying to be there for his friends and to help them in any way he possibly can. The last scene with Lex was pretty chilling and leaves the audience wondering what Lex is up to. Does he still have ulterior motives? Are we still dealing with evil Lex from the episode Onyx? It made me wonder.
John Glover’s scenes with Jane Seymour was outstanding. It’s so cool to see 2 experienced and veteran actors in their element facing off with one another. There’s nothing like it. I loved it when Lionel said “what do you want me to do give him a good spanking?” I knew he poisoned her wine 🍷 the moment he didn’t take a sip. Clearly Jason and Genevieve underestimate Lionel. They have no idea who they’re dealing with. He’s already 10 steps ahead of everyone else. He just doesn’t let anyone know it.
These filler episodes might not be to some the most enjoyable but they have their place. They are meant to keep the audience engaged until the season finale where everything is revealed and everyone’s fate is set in motion. All the events that transpired this season make sense in the season finale where Clark will unite the stones of power which will eventually lead to the Fortress of Solitude. There aren’t many episodes of Smallville I dislike. There is one in 5x16 called “Hypnotic,” that I will give 3 bombs 💣 to. Acting was amazing but hated it. You will see why when you get to that point. I will give you a hint. It made me cry 😢 for weeks. Only Smallville episode I gave 3 bombs 💣
I really hope you gentlemen have Jensen and Jane Seymour come on the podcast before you finish the season. Even if they can only come on for 5 minutes I will be happy!
Take care guys and can’t wait to keep tuning in on the podcast! You 3 are awesome 👏 I didn’t see how this episode was bad. Sorry guys but I’m not one of those “everyone.” To each their own I guess.
What an awesome summation, positive and heartfelt, I'm also not one of those "everyone" 😂😂
@appleel7937 thank you 🙏 I can’t wait for the finale!
I know for sure Michael will at least give it in the roses 🌹 rating. I was 4 when I started watching Smallville in 2001 and know every line and dialogue! ❤️❤️
Great comment👏❤, I support and share your opinion and that of other few fans for this episode. I'm not even one of those "everyone"🙂. I too love Clark's sweetness towards the child which is Tom's sweetness as we can see him with his children in real life.❤❤❤
I'm so glad I'm not alone. I loved Clark with the baby. It was sweet and fun to watch. I also don't think there is something wrong with those of us who like this episode! Lol
@@Kat6kids Clark with kids definitely pulls at my heartstrings. Like the episode 5x18 that I believe Tom directed with the little blonde girl who had powers of shattering glass. There's only 1 episode I give 3 bombs 2 and that's 5x16 "Hypnotic." I cried for weeks when that episode aired. I remember when 4x20 "Ageless," aired. I was 7 and remember everything about it. :)
On the plus side, I thought the actor who played the teenage Evan did a really great job. That can be hard to come in as a guest actor for one episode and give a notable performance (especially as a young person). Kudos to him!
I give this episode a heater, and that's generous.
We need a talkville episode with lifehouse in it since every song of theirs was in smallville at some point!
Love the pod boys!
This time, I don't think anyone can disagree with the shitting on the episode!
Never underestimate the internet, lol.
Honestly I'm surprised this episode is universally hated and called the worst.
I really enjoyed it and connected emotionally with both Evan and Clark & Lana. The actual plot is whatever, but what it shows for the characters is what I remember.
We see the last remnants of good Lex and see how much bad Lex is now taking over. We're treated to glimpses of how Clark would be as a father due to having Johnathan as his father, as well as seeing Lana care so much for someone no matter what weird biology they have.
I would definitely give it a 🌹
Best part of the episode was Lionel's threatening Genevieve Teague, no question.
big props to the michael this episode, you can tell he was trying to be much more positive for the fans, its kinda funny it happened during the worst episode of the show though lol
Look this episode isn’t the greatest but it definitely isn’t the worst episode of Smallville. I don’t know why people are making a big stink over this episode. To me the worst Smallville episode is the one that stars Amy Adam’s, don’t worry I don’t think it’s her fault she did the best she could, the one where she eats everything and tries to eat everyone
They explain how Evan has powers… his mom was a meteor freak who could give off energy… Evan is a just like his mom but slightly different with storing energy
Karen irra you were AWSOME!! Great shout out to the IMDb message boards, they were such a BIG part of my Smallville addiction back in the day. Miss those days and all my IMDb friends as well ❤❤❤❤❤❤ I would not ever give you heat as Michael said, for not liking an episode and giving bombs, I respect and appreciate your opinion. I'm happy in my own little Smallville bubble, and as I do not give bombs, it would get only one rose from me.....just like Tom 😀😀❤❤
I've been waiting for this one. Worst episode of Smallville ever. It was just so stooopid!
I remember this from when it first aired and it being so bad. The only good scene was Lionel poisoning the Medicine Woman.
Clark has had so many people die on him; the telepathic kid, the teleporting girl, the cave skinwalker girl, and now this fast aging kid. This would traumatize any normal high school kid. He must have super emotional healing as well...
I kinda like this one... Season Four was "mixed" in my opinion, but at least this one felt like a throwback to early Smallville.
Two new shirts!
1) Ryantist: "Smallville PSA: Teens don't get pregnant. You'll die and the town will explode." 😂😂😂
2) Rosey: "Say what it is! Don't be nice if you're not gonna be nice!" With Lex Luthor from Season 3 looking nuts!
I am sorry but I just can't believe how so many people hate this episode!
My favorite thing about this episode is imagining the scene that must take place JUST after the end where the sheriff comes back and says "Okay, Kents, we found a foster placement. Where's the kid?"
Awwww the doggie
Al and Miles shitting on this episode is now one of Smallville's greatest moments. The episode is worth it for that, like a fun MST3K riff.
I think theres alotta episodes worse than this.
I mean it's not like the production quality was bad...but like, why? why did this story need to be told? i would have loved if they tied it into Lex's cloning experiments
I loved the dynamic of Lana and Clark as "parents"
They took the most likeable character and literally blew him up at the end. They gave Ryan cancer. The writers love killing likeable characters.
I can't wait to see what you guys will talk about once lex leaves.
In season 4, by the time Lois Lane had been introduced and Chloe Sullivan found out Clark's secret, the show should have started having Clark and Lana drift apart, not have them act like surrogate parents to a kid. It's redundant to keep putting Clark and Lana in situations that would, on another show, imply that they are "destined for each other," when the entire audience has known since season 1 that Lana was not going to be the woman that Clark would end up with. This again illustrates the mistake the show made in dragging Clana out too long, because the deeper you dig that hole, the harder it's gonna be to dig your way out of it later on.
I love Ryan ❤😂😂 12:02 i can't stop laughing 😂🤣🤣😂
Miles and Al - they are doing Wednesday Season 2. Beetlejuice Beetlejuice. They are the hot guys in Hollywood right now. But they are always available for Rosi and Tom. They know where they are coming from. Super characters!
They are great
Season 4 was my favorite. As a teen in the 2000s this season spoke to me lol. Great tunes, crushes and high school fkn football lol everything a teen boy needs
That time Lana and Clark became parents.
This episode was pretty odd, but I felt the most compelling part of the episode was with all the powers Clark has, he has to come to terms with the fact that he can’t save everyone.
I just rewatched this Smallville episode. In fact this is the episode my husband warned me about in advance. Yes, this was one of the worst. 😂 But now being a mom to 2 kids, 10 and under, I was emotional during the scene when Clark talks to his parents about if he can even have kids because he's an alien...that got to me (but then I thought of his future with Lois, and then the Crisis on infinite Earth's scene you did years later, where Clark and Lois have 2 kids, Clark is raising his kids like his parents did, and I was happy again.) Also, I have a tendency to feel things very deeply, even while watching movies and TV shows (one reason Im passionate about my observations and opinions.) I love Smallville despite a few bad episodes, and it's a comfort show for me. Poking fun of the episodes can be fun too. I do like your honesty Michael, and Tom is awesome. Keep up the great work guys - Talk Ville is one of the highlights of my week. ❤