BFP Flash
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- Опубліковано 18 лют 2024
- The Godox BFP features a 360° rotatable design for gobo adjustments. Simply rotate the front part of the BFP, align everything in seconds, and achieve your desired pattern. The BFP Flash Projection Attachment is compatible with all Bowens-mount studio flashes. The optical lens gives clear projection. With BFP, you have the power to craft clear spots, precise shapes, and creative patterns.
The BFP kit includes an 85mm lens, with three additional lenses available separately for various scenarios: 48mm, 65mm, and 150mm. The 48mm lens offers versatility in confined spaces, while the 150mm lens ensures sharpness at long distances. Different lenses to meet the needs of different shooting situations. The BFP features four built-in shutter blades to carve out the patterns you want. The handles move effortlessly, enabling you to achieve ultra precise shapes like triangles, squares, rectangles and so on. The BFP features an EF lens mount, compatible with a range of EF lenses in addition to the dedicated lens.
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Correcting something you said near the beginning. And it's important to know. Which I don't think you do. These only work with ef lenses that have manual focus rings that are completely independent from the camera. In terms of canons lenses this is very rare. But you can buy the lenses that are used for other optical snoots. My snoot came with an 85mm. I purchased a 50mm and an 150mm of Ali express for around $100 for both. Love them. Also the 85 and the 150 do not have aperture blades. The 50 does but you want to open them up all the way. Seems that all the optical snoots that come with ef 50mm lenses all have the blades. Sucks because they are not needed. I'd rather them not be there. But I can use it on my old camera for fun.
I know someone that ordered some cheap canon lenses thinking they would work with her snoot. I immediately told her to cancel the order. Luckily she mentioned it to me soon enough.
Rather than having to use Canon lenses, just because it has an EF mount, there are lots of Nikon ( fit) manual, focus and aperture around and for projecting they don’t need to be critical quality, and they will fit an EF mount with a cheap adapter.
@@russellbaston974 I'm not sure they would work for snoots like these. The lens needs to fit right where the opening is. Unlike a camera this is out not in. But maybe if the adapter is something like a speed booster with a glass element it would work. It may also work as you said. However, you can save a lot of money by getting lenses like I did for very cheap. The snoot lenses are not like regular camera lenses. They are extremely basic. I got two for cheaper than the cost of an adapter.
There are some snoots on the market that you can option for a nikon mount.
@@fostervf16 It does work ok, I use this method, on an earlier model Godox EF fitting projection snoot, the EF mount is larger than the Nikon so the lens fits ‘flush’ in the middle of the mount. Similar applies to m42 lenses with an adapter.
99% of EF lenses have fully manually controlled focus rings; it's just a very few of them that needs current from the camera to move the motor, like 50 f1 or 85 f1.2 (or the two pancakes 24 ef-s and 40 ef) and those are certainly not cheapo lenses you would use in front of the projector, albeit they are super bright. It's the manual independent aperture control that on Canon EF lenses was never available, as they all have electronic controlled diaphragms. But still, you can overcome even that issue if you have a working Canon body, you just close the aperture via the DoF button on the camera, and remove the lens while holding the DoF button down, the lens will come out with the iris locked in the f-stop position you selected previously.
@@ritrattoaziendale You lose a light through projector systems, in most cases you want the lens fully open.
Last thing I needed was another projection system come out that’s actually better than what I have 🤦🏽♂️
A year after a purchased sa-17 kit - this comes out for the same price.
Love that lil human voiec cameo near the end there lol
lol, i figured if I didn’t draw attention her presence there’d be questions about door closing audio and wiggly LED tubes.
would love to see a comparison between the new BFP unit and the one just released for use with LED
This is my question too. My assumption is just one that would fit the extruded light tube found on a studio flash, and the other one doesn't. but such a minimal change doesn't justify the need to release 2 different models.
It’s simply optimizing for position of the light source relative to the rear optic of the projection system. A chip sits closer to the Bowens mount than a flash tube, which affects the rear optic / optic placement that would best suit it. This helps to prevent things like light leaks, and is why there hasn’t been a system that works great for all the flashes AND LEDs.
The LED one confused me because the VSA kit is already great. Unless they simply wanted to have a system that could share optics across flash/LED by simply changing the mount. Or maybe it was a layup once it was designed for flash to introduce an EF mount option to LED users as well.
@@robhallphoto yes, I've been struggling with that question as well, because I wanted to get the VSA Kit, until I saw that GODOX released the BLP (Led)! Now I am torn between the two!
(Photography is hobby for me & as such, I only have a small space - An SL300iii Led &/or a coupla of AD200pros will be used with the kit)
My thoughts concerning which one to choose seem relevant to this discussion:
GODOX BLP / BFP System:
Pros:
Compact Size: The BLP is smaller and more suitable for limited spaces.
Cost-Effective: Generally cheaper than the VSA system, both in initial purchase and accessory costs.
Accessory Compatibility: Utilizes SA accessories (again, smaller and less expensive.) The MLP-ID Iris attachment, for example, is more affordable than the VSA-ID iris.
Lens Variety: Presently offers four lens options (from Godox), providing flexibility in beam shaping and size.
Ease Of Use: 360° rotatable design for gobo adjustments.
Cons:
Separate Unit for Strobes: Requires the purchase of an additional BFP unit for strobe compatibility, which could be inconvenient compared to an all-in-one solution. (*due to the build differences between Strobes & Leds; presently there is no all-in-one solution!)
Light Intensity: Does not increase the light intensity as the VSA’s ellipsoidal spotlight attachment does.
GODOX VSA System:
Pros:
Light Intensification: The ellipsoidal spotlight attachment is designed to intensify the light, making it more powerful.
LED Design: Optimized for use with LED lights, providing a clear and focused beam.
Cons:
Strobe Compatibility: Limited compatibility with strobes; larger strobe units do not fit.
Lens Options: Only three lens options available, which are larger and more expensive (e.g., the narrow 19° lens costs over 250 euros in the EU market).
Size of Accessories: Gobos and other accessories are larger and more costly, which might be a consideration for budget-conscious users.
Space Requirements: The VSA is a larger unit and may require a more spacious studio setup.
Additional Considerations:
The GODOX VSA Spotlight Kit, being an ellipsoidal spotlight attachment, is designed to focus and intensify the light from the source. This is achieved through its optical design, which directs more of the light towards a specific area, increasing the intensity within that spot.
On the other hand, a normal optical snoot like the GODOX BLP Projector is primarily designed to shape and control the light, which can involve focusing it into a narrower beam. However, this process doesn’t necessarily intensify the overall light output; instead, it redistributes the existing light. Due to the nature of optics, some light loss is expected as the light passes through various elements like lenses and gobos.
Studio Space: If you have a small studio, the BLP’s compact size (and wide-angle lens options) might be more practical.
Budget: The BLP system’s cost-effectiveness could be a deciding factor if you’re looking for a balance between functionality and price.
I, myself will probably go with the BLP as it's more cost effective (than the VSA). Plus, it's more compact (than the VSA), which is better for my limited space.
+ Gobos & Led light are easier & quicker to adjust than Strobes & Gobos!
+ The 85mm lens that comes with the BLP is probably suitable for my small space (& creative flexibility can be cost effectively expanded via a 65 mm (the 45 mm has more coverage, but's somewhat large & also more expensive! 150 mm is too narrow for my needs).
+ The BLP seems to have diffusion - good, considering the newer SL300iii does not have a diffusion cap over the COB array like the older models (which may cause a 'cob-pattern' to be visible when using Go-Betweens. )
+ SL300III Led light has 320 watts, close enough to the 300w limit & (even with some light loss due to the BLP) is more than enough for the hobby sector.
Of course I welcome any corrections or advice concerning my thoughts listed above!
*sorry, I may have obsessively used your comment section to help myself, with deciding! 🤣
Thank you much, gonna get one and play with it
Thanks for sharing.
The iris aperture blades are clearly visible on the smaller sizes. Seems extremely compromised for product photography. Not saying the whole projector is useless but they really ought to improve that diaphragm accessory, especially given that it's an extra seventy bucks.
Finally they did it
Would you say this is better than the Lindsey Adler? I have the Adler vision.
Do you know if more patterns are on the way? I saw an official Godox video where the photographer put real leaves in the Gobo holder so I guess we can make our own.
Great Video, I have the SA-17 + SA-P1 projector and was really curious about a few thing with this new projector.
You answered almost all the questions I had but I still have to ask, do the flags only move in and out? For example, with the SA-17 + SA-P1 I could make a triangle shape using only the flags, could I do that with this new one?
I'm in the same position having the SA-17 and SA-P1 and wondering if I "need" to upgrade. (MUST resist! haha) It does look like the cutters only move in and out and that nice triangle/pie shape isn't an option but hopefully @SharpenPhoto can confirm.
Awesome review as always! BLP & BFP models looks very similar. Is it the true or internals are different? BFP looks like having a longer barrel. Thanks
Different size & placement of internals, not sure if the optic is different or not, but it’s clear each is optimized for their respective use.
so the BFP is VSA version for flash?can we use BFP for continuous light?
but then whats the purpose of BLP if the BLP is also for LED/continuous like the VSA ?
how much its cut light power. i mean with hss already cut alot off power. with ad600 with this modifier it is still usable outdoor.
Can we use it in ad300pro?
I've had this for about a month and really enjoying it! Seems to be much higher quality than the cheaper Amazon/Aliexpress alternatives, and even better than the Westcott Optical Spot!
The lens is very sharp and doesn't give me any vignetting, overall a great setup.
Works great with every gobo I've thrown into it (M-Sized, 66mm)
The only issue I had, was with the MLP-ID "Iris Diaphragm".. For whatever reason, Adorama seems to be the only retailer carrying this, and their stock of it is NOT the correct product. I ordered twice and went through a nightmare of a return (twice!). Wait until new stock comes in elsewhere before buying -- it's unfortunately, since it's an accessory I definitely want!
I do also wish the carrying bag had a bit more space in it! There isn't much extra room to add more gobos, lenses or even flash gels since it's pretty packed
Yes I think it’s better than the Westcott Optical Spot too (although my biggest problem with the Westcott Optical Spot is its markup over the Jinbei model it’s rebranded from).
Is the Iris control you mentioned the one meant for the VSA?
And regarding the case, I feel as though you must have it configured differently than me as I can get everything in it just barely.
Bowens portion on the right, obviously. Lens bottom left with gel holder set atop the rear mount. Iris, gobos, gels in the top left.
@@robhallphoto yes, the MLP-ID is used for a couple different godox optical spots, the VSA and the BFP/BLP. The one Adorama is sending is missing the "holder" piece, despite it being necessary for it. They keep suggesting you use the gobo holder, but it clearly doesn't fit. Godox has acknowledged that Adorama has bad/defective stock so it looks like they pulled it, but hopefully it comes back soon!
As for configuring the bag, it does hold everything but it's so tight! I have about 50 gobos for it as well as the gels (and soon the MLp-ID when it gets fixed!) And it's tough fitting more than what comes with the set inside the bag!
Does this work with an Ad 200 ?!? Or which would you recommend for an ad 200
@@djfunkgut will work with AD200 via S2 bracket
How would you compare the BFP flash projector to the Westcott Lindsey Adler projector in terms of quality, funtionality, and price?
I’ve only ever used the Westcott in passing at a friend’s studio. No iris accessory. Limited to two lenses (but also EF so same expansion possibilities). More expensive. I don’t believe the Westcott rotated either. But given my lack of time with it I can’t really provide anything more in depth than that.
I just hope that the lens is an optional accessory, instead of forcing everyone to buy the 85mm lens.
What gobo sizes does it take?
How easy is it to focus the gobo as opposed to an LED constant light where you can see the focus? I have an ad1200 pro and the modelling lamp is fairly good, good enough? Really interested in this product. Also is it compatible with old AD600?
I use mine with the old AD600 and it does work -- but that 10w modeling lamp is very dim. I can get it usable for focusing in a dimly lit room, but you need to have it on the maximum brightness. It does work though, and it is clear enough to see from a distance. If you have ambient/room light on, I expect it to be very difficult to see though.
modeling lamps sure helps with positioning of the light and proper focus/sharpness, but that's all.
@@DanielMartins-ld6no Yeah without a decent modelling lamp I can see this tool being a bit tricky to use with clients at a fast pace, but the price point is great so for the added creativity its worth a look.
@@trevhill952 it sure is! Just mentioning cuz the ad200 led (the built in one, not the dedicated adapter) does nothing to the aliexpress version that i have. It has to be an ad400 or better to the modeling light help with something. Might be the same case here too
where can u get this
Can you do a comparison with the westcott?
Also if you are using a small studio where it is setup about 10 to 15 feet away from the subject or background, which lens do you prefer?
I don’t have the Westcott to do a direct comparison. Things I can tell without using - the Westcott doesn’t rotate, has a gel cap system rather than sheets that go in a holder, and is 70% more expensive.
As for use 15 feet away, probably the 85. At that distance you can project a complete circle around a subject with that lens. Yet have lots of flexibility for smaller projections when used closer.
Wonder if I can get this to use with my Knowled 600 LEDs??
The BLP for LED is limited to 300w just like the VSA projection.
Yeah does this work w the ad100? The other system they have is trash
will work with AD100 via S2 bracket
I should be able to use this with an adapter on my Elinchrom flashes right?
It should work, not sure if there would be any negatives like light leak or focus range issues due to the extension via adapter.
@@robhallphoto Thank you, yes thats exactly what I'm worried about.
Hi ! OK, great. The bfp (for Flash) and the blp (for Led light) are same price, ALMOST same aspect (bfp are deeper for the bulb).
I don't see more difference.
-So, why the bfp wouldn't work for LEDs ? I dont see disadvantage.
-In the other way blp wont work with flash because of the bulb. (I guess)
-OK so bfp can do more thing than blp.
(And MLP looks like the same product for godox mount ?)
I'm not sure and would be happy to have your though !
Nice, but still VSA + FV200 makes a lot more sense for combo work of video and photos.
interesting what is the difference of output between VSA + FV200 and BFP + AD400
Well an FV200 full power “flash” is equivalent to an AD400 Pro @ 1/16 +.2 So from the jump that’s a 4 stop difference. I’d assume the not-omnidirectional nature of the chip would help it gain some ground in this particular modifier but otherwise assume the BFP + AD400 Pro to still be significantly brighter.
Yes that is correct, but VSA attachment actually increases output 3-6 times depending on lens. BFP attachments decrease attachments 2-3 stops i would imagine.
So roughly the output of VSA + FV200 should be equal to AD400 + BFP.
And the main advantage is VSA + FV200 can be used for video as well, 2 in 1 setup.
We can use it in westcott fj 400?
Yup
5:19 yeah, please explain why that pass through is opaque. I just got one and I'm about to cut it out (since I can't seem to find a way to remove it). All it does is limit light coming out...which I should be able to do by lowering the % anyway. If you have an answer, I'd love to hear it.
It’s diffusion so it doesn’t project the pattern of the LED array.
@@robhallphoto Thank you for the explanation, I appreciate it.
@@robhallphoto So with BLP the LED array pattern will be projected?
Also possible to mount on Profoto?
Yup they have Profoto and Broncolor mounts for it too!
@@robhallphotois this an adapter? Or a version designed specifically for profoto? I wonder if the adapter would destroy the sharpness?
The iris aperture blades are clearly visible on the smaller sizes. Seems extremely compromised for product photography. Not saying the whole projector is useless but they really ought to improve that diaphragm accessory.