Wal Thornhill: Interdisciplinary Story of the EU | Thunderbolts
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- At the 20th Annual Conference of the Natural Philosophy Alliance (NPA20), held July 2013 in College Park, Maryland USA, Australian physicist Wal Thornhill recounted his personal odyssey, starting with inspiration from Immanuel Velikovsky and culminating in an interdisciplinary perspective on the grand view of the Electric Universe Model of Cosmology.
One of the highlights at NPA20 was the presentation of the distinguished Sagnac Award to Wal Thornhill for his lifelong contribution to science.
Wal Thornhill (1942-2023) was the co-founder of The Thunderbolts Project and its Chief Science Advisor. His philosophical approach is that we must first understand human nature to understand the cosmos. The Electric Universe Model is the only science that has grown from diverse disciplines of understanding, offering hope and inspiration for a better future.
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So sorry you are no longer with us Wal, you were/are an inspiration to all with curiosity in their minds and hope and faith in their hearts.
Still, he was quite wrong about everything.
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x Why watch then
@@WorksopGimp I am interested in how folks like yourself think about such matters.
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x Its called a difference of opinion not that hard to understand like people that believe the earth is flat and those who don't
@@WorksopGimp No, it is not a mere matter of difference of opinion.
What an afternoon Immanuel and Wal must have had! Can imagine a very expansive conversation... truth finders xxx I am gripped..... RIP to all these great minds and souls xxx
Wonderful seeing Wal. Great Sunday, thanks.
Thank you all for being brave enough think differently and to put it out there regardless of what they think.
There is a continuation in the book - "Theory of Everything in Physics and the Universe"
@@Orion15-b9j A Volodya, you have a new handle. Did they ban the old one.?
They think nothing of the EU.
I am the only scientist here, and my interest is in how you folks think.
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x SUUUURRRRE you are.🙄🤣🤣🤣
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x They stopping our communications and we need to do something to get trough.
Thank God for Wal Thornhill. He gave us enough. I totally get it now. I'm working tons of hours. If you guys have taught me anything, it's that you can work hard and build stuff from this model. I'm about to build the coolest stuff. I thank God for Wal all the time. God bless ya'll.
Don't thank God.
What stuff are you building?
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x It's all fractal caper with that God stuff . . as in you are an minor God
Hey boss. I hear you.
The Great Dot Connector, Wal Thornhill. Was a highlight to have spent time talking to you and your lovely wife at the two successful Electric Universe UK conferences. If there was an anode in the room, you were it, and the excellent team around you cathodes. You shine bright, Wal and continue to.
Ben Davidson is good at connecting the dots, too. If you can stomach his politics. Absolutely dreadful.
@@iiz67 I like Ben, and I agree with you, but wouldn't his ability to connect dots, and being good at it, necessarily carry over to his politics as well?
@@JimJimmington-e8i it would, but his dot connecting is as bad as his politics
@@physicswithpark3r-x3xWas his politics as bad as your non-scientific responses here?
Wonderful stuff. Simply wonderful.
Having read Velikovsky in the 50's as a tyke I always held the taught version of science in question. Not being of college calibre I wasn't aware of the Talbot's and Cardona's , etc, contributions until 20/25 years ago, but did binge on it all at that time. I am gratefull the Thunderbolts Project put this presentation out to fill in some open ends at Wal's passing. Thank you all...
Buck in Arizona
_"Not being of college calibre I wasn't aware of the Talbot's and Cardona's , etc, contributions"_
Lol! That childish garbage would never be taught in any self-respecting college.
@ You big bang piece of 2030 prison planet pus WEF . . my lifes work is now to meet one of you in a dark alley . . for some happy fun times , I did't come down in last shower . . you are Christians In Action
Pure energy, it's so simple a child could see it.
It's always great to review Wall again. Great video.
Awesome...
I had no idea Wal was from Melbourne let alone an Ozzy! On ya Wal you bloody legend
This was incredibly touching and enlightening on so many levels. Thank you, Wal! They've kept their hands over the eyes of smarter people than they for a very long time. Best we remove them promptly so we can all sit up and remember.
He may no longer be with us but he is forever Within Me I find it hard to describe how fortunate I feel to have been introduced to the electric universe theory it completely changed the way I look at the world made the world make sense made the world exciting again and all of that was spearheaded by this gentleman right here
Thornhill stood out from the crowd as far back as the 40s. He has started something.
Yes, indeed he did. A cult of grifters and crackpots.
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x oh, is that why all of the studies and grants are being paid 💰to all of the grifters, so they can prove bigbangs & blackwholes are wrong.
@@NGC-catseye What are you on about?
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x I’m sorry that my Aussie lingo is at a level, that which you find yourself going the wrong direction on a roundabout.
@@NGC-catseye So "blackwholes" is Aussie lingo for black holes?
I love the thunderbolts project and the places you are going.
Always nice to have a refresher. What instantly hooked me into the Electric Universe paradigm was when I watch the Symbols of an Alien Sky documentary about the geography of Mars, and thinking about how if you had two astronomical bodies, even a slight deviation from a net neutral charge between them is an astronomically large amount of potential energy.
And how would that happen? And how would these impossible lightning bolts happen in the extremely highly conductive plasma that separates the planets? You need a dielectric to break down for lightning woo. You don't have one. It is pure nonsense.
I still call for another EU conference, we need to connect and talk about our ideas with all of us still navigating the pieces
RIP Wal
This will be good. Somebody must pick up and carry the torch. We have a continuation of EU, which "they" is hiding ate any cost - the book - "Theory of Everything in Physics and the Universe" will be good to inform your friends for its existence.
The grift must go on!
May I suggest Harrisburg, PA, USA, as a venue? That'd be the hippest.
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x Yet you are still here
@@WorksopGimp Your point being?
Really great 👌🏼👍🏻
Great Video,Great Man Thank you
Thank you
Miss the chats Wal RIP
Thank you Sir, I've been (attempting) to follow your mind \ work from the beginning...😂 Tough going for traditional geeks👍
What is a traditional geek?
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x Whatever you want it to be, I think you know
@@WorksopGimp No, I don't. and for once I would appreciate a response from OP before you pipe up.
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x Too bad for you then, Park.
@physicswithpark3r-x3x the one getting stuffed into lockers...
I really wanted to meet this man, so sad when he died.
@@WorksopGimp call her NAME 🤣🤣😳
Why should his last name?🤣😳
FUNNY
As career women she should proud of herself the story full of straight forward
@@niningsetia4213 ? you high or something
Thank you. Enjoyed the Gaia short series he did.
Awesome job and excellent science
Zero science. Where did that happen?????
From the first few moments of watching Symbols of an Alien Sky on Valentine's Day 2013, I was in love with the EU model of cosmology. It 'rang' pure truth then and rings true and thunderously now. I will live to see the day the gravitational model and it's dogma and it's heads-lodged-in-splinkters pathetic proponents all herded over the edge of the cliff of their fuckery with the spirits of Immanuel, Halton, David and Wal enjoying themselves as the Four Horsemen of the Fuckening, who drive the gasping and sloppily bleating big bangers over the edge and into the shame of their fuckery. The collective ecstatic cheering of humanity rising higher and louder up to the ultimate beat-drop to kick off one gigantic rave that only ends when the phat lady sings.
RIP Mr. Thornhill!
Oh how I would of liked to of seen that international conference Crothers spoke at in Russia.
He's a trip and doesn't suffer fools.
@@iiz67 Crothers is a complete crackpot, utterly lacking in any competence re maths and physics - he is the biggest fool of them all!
RIP Wal so educational so mind opening answers so many questions. thank you so much for posting this one.
Zero educational content in this nonnsense. And it answers precisley nothing.
@@davejones7632 Why do you watch then?
@@JJ33438 For the comedy value.
@@davejones7632 And don't forget the plain opportunistic cruelty value ian
@@susmarcon _opportunistic cruelty??_
Wonderful to spend more time with this pillar of a man.
did you mean "pillock"?
@@physicswithpark3r-x3xIs it not pathetic to speak ill of the dead in your culture?
@@Kaimelar8 No, in fact, originally it meant that it was safer to speak ill of a powerful individual once he was dead.
However, a fraud, a thief, a con artist, a charlatan does not suddenly become a saint when he dies.
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x But then again history is often written by the victor.
@@susmarcon aggrieved paranoia again
Jackson's "Classical Electrodynamics" (1st & 2nd editions) discusses "Magnetohydrodynamics & Plasma Physics" in Chapter 10 and includes a good bibliography. Revisiting the concepts in "Cosmical Electrodynamics" by Alfvén & Fälthammar, and "Physics of the Plasma Universe" by Peratt deserves attention, especially in light of contemporary observations from JWST and other observatories.
Indeed, although nothing Jackson says provides support for the plasma universe or the proposals of tbp / eu.
@@physicswithpark3r-x3xYou'd have to have a scientific mind to see the connection Parker. It's ok, we don't mind, we can explain everything to you here.
@@Kaimelar8 Well, I have read Jackson.
But OK, explain how stars attract or repulse one another via em forces. What is the charge, in Coulomb, on a typical star such as our sun?
@@Kaimelar8 _"You'd have to have a scientific mind to see the connection Parker"_
Well, I'm better qualified than you in the relevant science, so explain the connection. Nobody who understands plasma physics is supporting your unpublished woo. Due to it being trivially shown to be impossible gibberish.
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x _"What is the charge, in Coulomb, on a typical star such as our sun?"_
Lol! Do not expect actual science from Kaimelar! Word salad is all you'll get, allied to the usual conspiritard nonsense.
Our universe is a human being, and the particles that make up his body are the galaxys
We are all particles floating around in God's brain balls. If anybody bumps into Steve, tell him he's illegally parked and to stop messing around. Thanks! 🤗
This is why all the ancient cultures created megalithic structures, water pools (mirror-like) to view the stars at night, and then dug massive underground cities, to hopefully escape and survive any inbound cataclysm.
What massive underground cities?
Requiescat in pace.
The forbidden book... I grew in a catholic school and had a similar experience, only in the mid 80s. Still can't believe a man so young looking has left us. Goodbye light warrior.
You will be missed your work will become mainstream you are a hero!!
if or when?
He didn't have any 'work'. And impossible gibberish, based on mythological fairy tales, will never be science.
@@davejones7632 THE FLUFF OF INCOMPATIENT ORTHODOXIST THEISTS SHOULD KNOW BECAUSE THEY ARE LIKE KIDS, JUST SCRUB
The EU has been mentioned in the plasma orbs discussion. See Ashton Forbes for interesting ideas he has about electrical physics.
Ashton has uncovered a lot but has yet to differentiate the nonsense from the actual facts.
@@raycar1165 which is the case for many of us
Truth saves lives. Blue Love Wisdom.
I sure miss him i do ❤
He will go down in history.
as what?
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x A well-read, well informed, scientist, logician and thinker. And a great bloke.
@ He may have been that last thing to those who knew him well.
He was none of those former things. I am very sorry, but there you are.
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x Luckily, you are the arbiter of nothing in particular.
@ that's where you are wrong, and even if I weren't, the fact remains that your man knew sweet FA about science and talked an awful lot of bollocks about it
EU changed my life.
Thanks to ALL of ya
Stopped you getting a proper education in physics, did it?
@davejones7632
Observation 1st
Math should follow science
Theoretical doesnt interest me much
@@j.pershing2197 You have no maths and no science, let alone any observations.
Awesome as always .The fly in the ointment of the dark matter of pseudoscience.Look up Percepton Theory
Hardly.
@physicswithpark3r-x3x more questions with out answers look up percepton theory
If the dictator determined to rule a society for ever, he/she would also wanted to rule the science society by implementing “specialization”.
If knowledge is power, then limited knowledge means limited of power. That limited individual power cannot over power / throw the dictator.
Truer words were never spoken
Yeah, they were. Thornhill was a clueless mythologist. And was very economical with the truth. Those are true words.
@@davejones7632 THE FLUFF OF INCOMPATIENT ORTHODOXIST THEISTS SHOULD KNOW BECAUSE THEY ARE LIKE KIDS, JUST SCRUB
I miss him so much
Much ❤ Love
🌏🌎🌍☯️⚡️
Terra 🌞 Pax
do you mean it, Ray?
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x If the earth had 8 billion people like me there would have been world peace long ago.
@@raycar1165 Perhaps, if you mean "like me" in the sense of temperament.
I appreciate the open mindedness of the EU/Plasma theory. They don't seem to make up things to stuff their theory into the observations. Black this and dark that and "scientists surprised by..." are not mainstays of EU/Plasma theory. Arrogance free zone!
really? it is all arrogance in the eu cult!
EU has no science. It is that simple. They have nobody with the foggiest clue about plasma physics for a start. And they make everything up! There is zero evidence for any of their impossible claims. It isn't science in the same way that flat earth, creationism and astrology are not science.
@@davejones7632bbt no Science kid😊😊
Comment: I loved Velikovsky's Worlds in Collision which I read as a young adult and mostly embraced the EU model even before it had an official name. One issue I have however is the rejection of First Cause. One can believe in a Creator without the apparent lunacy of the Big Bang and all the Unicorns modern cosmology "creates" to explain the Universe. Confirmation bias is something we 'all' struggle with. The Ancients created their storm gods and wood spirits and modern science in their own way does the same. The real struggle with Unicorns is when people make them their invisible friends and refuse to even consider alternatives. IMHO Mr. Thornhill is sorely missed.
Official science does not refuse to consider the plasma /electric universe - it is all too willing to entertain much more far-out and exotic ideas.
PU/eu was rejected simply because it did not fit the observations, which is how it goes with almost all of these ideas.
Velikovsky's Worlds in Collision was not taken seriously because the cataclysms he spoke of can easily be shown to have been far more devastating, had anything like that happenend during the lifetime of our species.
_"I loved Velikovsky's Worlds in Collision which I read as a young adult"_
I read it when I was eleven. By the time I was 16 I had figured out why it was complete garbage.
_"the apparent lunacy of the Big Bang"_
You mean you don't understand it, nor the evidence that supports it. Tough. Others do.
@@davejones7632 "the apparent lunacy of the Big Bang"
YES EXACTLY THE STUPID THINGS OF THE VERY BIBLE THEORY HAVE ONLY MISSIONARY PURPOSES AND IT HAS BEEN EXPOSED A LOT OVER THE YEARS DO YOU WANT TO COMPILATE SOME EVIDENCE?
@@davejones7632 Yes the BB is a fantastically convincing argument, if you are child that is already indoctrinated by biblical teachings that use such irresistible scientific proofs such as "let there be light" and "in the beginning" ...... oh oh .... I'm convinced!
@@susmarcon This notion that BBT is genesis in disguise is popular among your crowd. Unfortunately, it hinges on a fundamental misunderstanding re what the theory claims and entails, and what it does not.
You might wish to do yourself the favour of learning what the theory actually says.
Vacuum/Zero-point energy. Nature abhors a vacuum.
Why is it that all the uploaded EU conference excerpts are no later than 2017? Why is it that we never see any EU conference excerpts after 2017? It's like all their EU conferences from 2018 to present have gone dark.
Things have not been right in the house of EU.
Funding came from a Velikovskian, I hear. Perhaps EU strayed too far from its Velikovskian roots. Or perhaps the SAFIRE fraud and debacle was the breaking point.
I think that was around the time when the focus was on the Safire Project. Or the plasma experiments. That other one became suspicious. So they went different ways. But others are still doing their own things. Just no more conferences.
@@NGC-catseye Thanks. I think the money went one way and the remaining faithful the other...?
@NGC-catseye@NGC-catseye Interesting, I thought the experiments showed supporting evidence? Something went sideways?
@@Oldhogleg No, there was never any evidence, just optimistic / fraudulent interpretation of instrument noise.
i would like someone to combine the electric universe theory to the ancient stoy of enki and enlil found on cuniform tablets...i think we would find battles on earth between the two may have blown up the planet creating the astroid belt,it may have disturbed the planets to cause the rings on saturn and the flooding that occured on earth. putting together both stories mankind would finally be able to see our true ancient history for the first time.
Well, do you think _any_ life on our planet would have been able to live through such cataclysms?
Yep, and then the Tooth Fairy met Santa on a flat earth!
@@davejones7632😂 stupid commet
Aww. Lighting Strikes Again!
is that what made him the man he was?
If there are any mathematicians or people that are knowledgeable in mathematics and physics out there who would like to help bring to the world the correct and true description of reality and have the patience to put up with the crazy man like me to listen to my ideas long enough to where you get it to where if you have intelligence I have no doubt you will see and it will click and then we'll go from there. And it doesn't take much intelligence I'm not any type of Genius but I am pretty smart though but mostly I just have been curious and the question that has eaten me up ever since I can remember is the question about the Paradox of nothingness and everything and why do we exist at all. And that is actually the most fundamental question about reality and it ties into everything else mathematically and you can derive Consciousness and qualia from this as well and even though I'm not a mathematician or a genius I have figured out things that the greats in history couldn't even figure out for some reason and I think that's because of the imposition to put up on them by history and the institutions like the church and Academia since they are at odds add one side is ruled by idiots who know they're lying and are greedy and don't care and buy the other side who are idiots that but they're too stupid to to realize that they're idiots and they think they are smart because you know a atheists have to be smart right? Yeah the same people that have been proving over and over that there's nothing material in existence at all it. Because all this is frequency basically information. Yet they they hold do a paradigm of materialism their own mathematics and physics and experiments has proven there is nothing material and that all solid things are just events in measurements, they do not see the implications. And by the way relativity is completely true it is not enough because relativity is Beyond Universal. Relativity comes into being as soon as existence itself does because of the relationship between nothingness and infinity and as soon as you have this separation you have subjectivity and relationship which is the fundamental causes of all existence along with information. And it's part of the Big Bang goes the Big Bang is happening right now the point of the present moment that we call now in fact in the universe is expanding from our perspective and it's doing the same thing from every perspective because an Infinity of things must have their chance to exist and they must have their time to exist to do this since the space and time is limited that means everything must be in it a state of flux all at all times. That's why it's cyclic and that's why it's always expanding because to tell Infinity you're going to need more and more and more of it. This is what is called a potential Infiniti. If the whole universe shrinks down to the size of a singularity which it is from the outside by the way. All the space was in it would shrink down and so would the matter. By the way the plank scale don't apply outside of time and space because there's nothing to measure it against. And that is the reason the very first measurement ever made had to have been a subjective consciously made decision. There are so many things that I can prove logically but I don't have the experience with writing proofs to put this down in mathematical jargon and scientific jargon that would be accepted by even the most open-minded institution you know are magazine or even person listening to this type of stuff but I guarantee I'm right. 100% for sure I know I am
🤣I know for a fact you are a fool who thinks he is smart
IMAX movie. Hmmmmm......
I'd love to see that.
😇😎😇
SCIENCE: "Question everything!"
THORNHILL: "Velikovsky?"
SCIENCE: "Don't question the Science".
An example. It is not uncommon for an egg to roll of a table and make a mess on the floor. It has never been observed that such a mess flies off the floor, unto the table to become an egg.
"Question everything!" means: try to understand why this egg business is the way it is.
"Question everything!" does not mean: claim that messes become eggs and play the martyr when taken to task on that claim.
@physicswithpark3r-x3x What a rubbish reply! The point is that you can't question orthodoxy and if you do then you risk becoming outcast as a heretic. Are you one of orthodoxies' high priests who decides on what is pseudo-science?
@@tinaryan4023 _The point is that you can't question orthodoxy and if you do then you risk becoming outcast as a heretic._ I know that you meant to say that. The point is that V portrayed himself as just such a one who questioned orthodoxy and was outcast as a result; and he managed to convince a following of lay people who believe his narrative.
In reality, questioning orthodoxy is perfectly routine in academic science, and there are no high priests who decide what is pseudoscience and what isn't.
However - claims that are manifestly in conflict with the available evidence are not taken up by the community, and that is all. The claimer is free to put his claims in all the books he likes, and set out to bamboozle all the gullible non-experts he can find.
In reality, V was effectively one of the folks who said the egg flies up the table.
@physicswithpark3r-x3x
Let's start with the high priests who edit Wiki page Electric Universe.
"The Electric Universe (EU) is a collection of pseudoscientific cosmological theories that claim electricity and magnetism are responsible for the formation and existence of the universe.
Condemning EU to the status of Pseudo-science is indeed one way to suppress EU theory
The EU proponent is free and indeed produces conflicting claims that "conflict with the available evidence"
What freaking evidence?
Claims of theoretical black holes and the Big Bang are accepted without evidence.
EU have experimental results to support the theory.
You are an enemy of science and progress
@@tinaryan4023 Wikipedia editors are not the high priests of science, if any there be. That said, it is correct that "The Electric Universe (EU) is a collection of pseudoscientific cosmological theories that claim electricity and magnetism are responsible for the formation and existence of the universe. "
It goes on to say "Condemning EU to the status of Pseudo-science is indeed one way to suppress EU theory" - I do not agree with this bit. Calling something pseudoscience is just a short-hand way of indicating why the academic community does not pay much attention to it. There is no suppression as such.
"Claims of theoretical black holes and the Big Bang are accepted without evidence." This is false: it is the evidence that finally led the community to accept these phenomena as factual.
"EU have experimental results to support the theory. " well, no, they don't.
"You are an enemy of science and progress" that seems a rather bitter and unpleasant thing to say in a friendly conversation.
i will also drop this one here not relevant but still somehow relevant about thee magn. field...
"The Earth's magnetic field cannot be generated by the motion of liquids in the outer core, as posited by the geodynamo theory. Instead, the observed magnetic field is primarily generated by the rotational motion of the core itself, with the inner and outer layers rotating in opposite directions. The liquid outer core does not create the field directly; instead, it distorts the otherwise perfect dipolar magnetic field, contributing to observed irregularities and fluctuations."
Introduction:
The standard geodynamo theory asserts that the motion of electrically conductive fluids in the outer core generates the Earth's magnetic field. However, the focus of this thesis is not on the strength or consistency of the field, but on its specific shape-particularly its dipolar nature. The question arises: how can such a perfect dipolar field be generated by chaotic fluid motion in the outer core? The argument presented here is that the magnetic field is primarily generated by the motion of the core itself, with the inner and outer core rotating in opposite directions. The liquid outer core, instead of creating the field, distorts its otherwise perfect dipolar shape.
Review of the Geodynamo Model:
The conventional geodynamo model credits the motion of liquid iron and nickel in the outer core for generating the magnetic field. Fluid convection, driven by heat and compositional differences, along with the Earth's rotation, is thought to produce the observed magnetic field. However, this model faces significant challenges in explaining the specific shape of the magnetic field. The Earth's field is dipolar-symmetrical and aligned with the planet's rotation axis-which seems inconsistent with the expected results from the fluid convection processes in the outer core. The chaotic, turbulent motions of the liquid core are too irregular to produce such an ordered, stable field.
The Importance of Field Shape:
Earth's magnetic field is characterized by its dipolar nature, with the magnetic poles closely aligned to the planet's rotational axis. The shape of the field is important because it represents a highly organized and symmetrical structure. The stability of the field over time-despite fluctuations and reversals-also suggests that the field’s generation must come from a relatively stable and organized source. This is a key issue, as the liquid motions in the outer core, which are assumed to be chaotic and turbulent, do not seem capable of producing such a well-defined and stable dipolar magnetic field.
Core Motion and Electromagnetic Field Generation:
The basic principles of electromagnetism tell us that a magnetic field is generated by the motion of charged particles, which can occur through electromagnetic induction (the right-hand rule). The hypothesis presented here suggests that the rotational motion of the core itself is the key to producing the magnetic field’s dipolar shape. If the inner and outer core rotate in opposite directions, this motion could generate a dipole-like magnetic field that aligns with the Earth’s rotation axis. This organized motion would naturally produce a symmetric and stable magnetic field, unlike the complex and unpredictable field that would arise from the convection of liquids alone.
The Role of Liquids in Distorting the Field:
While the liquid outer core does not generate the magnetic field directly, it plays a role in distorting the field that is primarily created by the core's motion. The liquid layers trapped between the inner and outer core distort the perfect dipolar shape of the field, leading to the magnetic imperfections and fluctuations that we observe. These distortions manifest as anomalies in the field, localized magnetic regions, and fluctuations in strength. The motion of the liquid can therefore cause irregularities and variations in the field, but it is not the cause of the field’s overall dipolar structure.
Why Liquids Cannot Create a Perfect Magnetic Field:
The chaotic, localized motion of the liquid outer core cannot generate the organized dipole seen in the Earth’s magnetic field. The fluid dynamics in the outer core, while capable of causing fluctuations, cannot produce a stable, symmetric magnetic field because the interactions of the fluid are too unpredictable. The observed imperfections in the magnetic field, such as magnetic anomalies and fluctuations, are a result of the liquid’s interaction with the core's motion, but the liquid itself cannot create the underlying dipolar shape of the field.
The Core’s Role in Producing the Dipolar Field:
The inner and outer core’s rotational motion-especially if these layers rotate in opposite directions-forms the primary mechanism for creating the observed dipolar magnetic field. This rotation can generate a field that is aligned with the Earth's rotational axis, producing the stable, symmetric dipole observed. The role of the liquid outer core is to distort this perfect dipole, leading to the observed irregularities, but it is the core's motion itself that produces the field's fundamental shape.
Conclusion:
In conclusion, the motion of the core-with the inner and outer core rotating in opposite directions-is the primary driver of the observed magnetic field’s dipolar shape. The liquid outer core plays a secondary role by distorting this shape, leading to the imperfections and fluctuations we observe. This thesis suggests that the geodynamo model, which attributes field generation solely to fluid motion in the outer core, is inadequate in explaining the specific shape of the magnetic field. Future research should focus on better understanding the core's rotational dynamics and their role in generating Earth's magnetic field.
Key Points to Emphasize:
The core’s rotational motion is the primary source of the observed dipolar magnetic field.
The liquid outer core does not create the field but distorts the perfect dipole shape, leading to observed anomalies.
The dipolar shape of the magnetic field requires a more organized mechanism, like the core’s rotation, rather than the chaotic fluid dynamics of the outer core.
Karagiannis Boris 2025
Name of the paper, and the peer-reviewed journal that published it?
I haven't yet learned this electric theory, but let me explain why any intelligent person who is at least somewhat science literate would want to. The big bang is idiotic, illogical, unprovable and doesn't even answer the question of "what happened first" anyway. Therefore, all we have by way of evidence is math on chalkboards and computer sims we've designed. We have now a slew of "science communicators" like DeGrasse or BrGreene who talk about the big bang and its surrounding ideas as pure fact, that is how they communicate them. It turns off anyone that doesn't do that math daily and choose to believe we aren't missing something fundamental when we create things like dark matter out of nothing, and then fail to find it for decade after decade. For my part, I like to learn still because its who I am, but I don't actually think it makes much sense for us to spend a single dollar or minute trying to theorize on how a galaxy is formed or go around pretending we know how the universe started or how big it is when we've existed for eight seconds cosmically. If science followed its own rule it wouldn't waste time working on things that can't be proven even if you could observe for a thousand human lifetimes.
@@50Nobody50 "doesn't even answer the question of "what happened first" anyway" - nor does it claim to, and no theory I am aware of attempts to answer this question - are you?
"I like to learn still because its who I am" - excellent! start by learning that you forgot the apostrophe there in "it's"
"I don't actually think it makes much sense for us to spend a single dollar or minute trying to theorize on how a galaxy is formed" - why not? what an oddly blinkered outlook, if you don't mind me saying so
"If science followed its own rule it wouldn't waste time working on things that can't be proven" like what?
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x see, I have no interest in debating any human soul on any of this unanswerable shit, my only point here that's important is to give an example of how poor our current science communicating method works on society at large. You are more than welcome to still pretend that having the answer right or wrong even makes a difference on these things, but the actual problem is whatever practicing science does know or thinks it knows, its shit at passing that on. Period.
@ you may have a point, but it does take two to tango
and with that attitude, I doubt I could even pass a cake recipe on to you...
you guys are making correct observations but wrong assumptions about how everything is driven by the same force, its the same patterns which emerge from the same kind of interactions but not the same forces
This. Oftentimes, when we dig deeper into the maths, we can see correspondences on a more abstract level which account for the "family resemblance" - but the physics itself is a different matter.
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x Sure, but it cuts both ways, like a numerical palindrome. Sequences can read the same in reverse order (e.g., 1991), as well as those that can be read upside down and backward (e.g., 1961). So does the observation from @eutiger4789, represent your chicken or your egg.
@@susmarcon I think eutiger was spot on.
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x ??????
@ spot-on, something we say in Britain when someone hits the nail on the head - what do you guys say, he was dinkum barnaby or something like that?
"The electric sun model cannot even properly explain the thermal spectrum of the Sun let alone the different star types. There is not one shred of evidence that the surface of the Sun acts as an anode. The atoms at the photosphere are overwhelmingly neutral and the voltages required by Mr Scott have never been measured. Also, there is no evidence that the Sun is connected by an electrical circuit to another star."
- Stephen Crothers
you're talking nonsense again npc
Stephen Crothers papers and books - Criticisms of the Einstein Field Equation: The End of the 20th Century Physics,..... "The Non-existence of the Black Hole and the Failure of General Relativity": Part One, Part Two.....Stephen J. Crothers ... claims that the Big Bang has no basis in general relativity.....Strange Reports of "Discovery" of the Higgs Boson .....A Nobel Laureate Talking Nonsense: Brian Schmidt, a Case Study..... A Few Things You Need to Know to Tell if a Mathematical Physicist is talking nonsense. .....Why the Black Hole Theory is Fallacious ... General Relativity - A Theory in Crisis: Journal Reprint ...The Black Hole Catastrophe... Shall I go on ???
@@trungtamienmayquocquang7233 this is Crothers arguing against EU
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x Wow ! The point is he argues about everything. How's that cherry picking going anyway.
@@susmarcon We didn't need the clown Crothers to tell us that the 'electric sun' woo is impossible. It is obviously impossible if you have even a vague understanding of the relevant science.
The Infinite universe is AC.
Energy Expansion 101
All comments I make are instant banned science topics . . Watson . . Watson I remember now the empty house echo
comments here on tbolt channel? or on mainstream videos?
@@br3030 Here on Christians In Action . . needletube POL POT 2030 . . this comment deleted will be as usual
The way is shut
@ Just general hurt . . like an exist angst caper type of thing . . bear with me now people
Ben, take your meds and talk to your doctor.
It's a loss for the attempt to upgrade the certified "science" that Wall Thornhill has passed.
Certified? What are you trying to say?
Sig det på dansk, måske bliver det tydeligt, hvad du vil udtrykke.
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x Standard model I think he's saying
@ Yes, that is possible.
@ Suprised you couldn't work that out
@@WorksopGimp well, there is no such thing as "certified science" and it does not receive "upgrades"
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All things are electrical, including your consciouness reading this
"Interdisciplinary"! Lol. A bunch of mythologists, a handful of clueless engineers and not a physicist in sight does not equal interdisciplinary! It equals pseudoscientific woo.
THE ORTHODOX LOL GATHERS THE MOST CORRUPT AND INCOMPATIBLE PEOPLE IN HISTORY, MAKING HUMANITY UNDEVELOPED LOL
IT MEANS GENUINE SCAMS
What ever happened to the guy Eugene?
Cardona?
He has his own yt channel and (separately) he helps people get their work published.
@@summerbrooks9922 the Russian guy
@@steadfasttherenowned2460 so you meant Евгений
the funny thing is that gravity cannot be attractive all the way, at certain point becomes repulsive ... so we actually never observed classical orbital decay and collision based on attractive force of gravity ... to be honest except asteroid planet sun collisions we haven't observe planet to planet or star to star collisions .
if that was the valid case of gravity then in the center of Milky Way , Sag A center of mass would have devour all of the stars in that region , and we observe that the stars are moving very fast and goes away - slingshot. If something is attracting something else towards itself , whatever is the object momentum or trajectory it will lead to collision .. and we do not observe that ...
no, gravity is never repulsive.
collisions are rare because space is very very empty
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x
absolutely false , thanks for the try tho
@@plamenzlatev1206 Actually, no, I am right. Two galaxies can move right through one another without stars ever colliding.
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x
right , they can and they do , because repulsive electromagnetic force forbids direct collisions and the two systems merging develops naturally equilibrium :)
@@plamenzlatev1206 how big are the charges on the stars?
taking our sun, for example?
Two facts of physics. Cold space itself and stars disolving their atmospheric gases into external heat energy waves outside of entanglement of mass as potential renewable heat energy when absorbed into internal magnetic fields as mass. External heat energy outside of entanglement of mass doesn't ground currents. Electricity is rapid heat exchanging through mass faster than planetary internal magnetic fields grounding currents through its nucleus or core. Earth's internal magnetic field grounding currents are elements accumulation of quaternary elements combined synchronization amplification of quaternary internal magnetic fields grounding currents through all masses in its path until displacement can't be overcome by impaction force. Illusionary solidity from liquidity infinity. Mass doesn't burn it disolves its internal magnetic fields, disolving into external heat energy outside of entanglement of mass as fire. Lightning disolving atmospheric gasses instantaneously disolving into external heat energy outside of entanglement of mass as fire lighting up the sky like campfires slowly disolving internal magnetic fields disolving into external heat energy outside of entanglement of mass as fire. If heat doesn't ground currents, it disolves into external heat energy outside of entanglement of mass as fire. Mass occupies space within it as occupational space itself and heat energy and cold repulsion of space itself as the repellant of heat propulsion as the propellant. Heat energy is always outward force of pressure known as weightless outside of a greater internal magnetic field grounding currents. Mass is always outward force of pressure. Atmospheric gases are outward force of pressure known as weightless. Hot air balloons rise up through earth's internal magnetic field because external heat energy outside of entanglement of mass doesn't ground currents. Hydrogen is the cosmic speed limit in resistance to cold repulsion of space to faster than space repulsion allows. When heat is thrown outward into cold repulsion faster than normal momentum of space, the velocity of heat waves is redirected backward onto itself. Hydrogen is the most abundant element because it exceeds the cosmic speed limit as space itself as a weak external magnetic field. Grounding is centrifugal forces cycling circulation faster than normal external magnetism. Mass falls in equalization to planetary internal magnetic fields grounding currents. Anything moving faster starts to heat up and disolves into external heat energy outside of entanglement of mass like meteorites hitting earth's planetary internal magnetic field. External magnetic fields spin all heat energy within its field like a record on a record player. Proximity mass disolves from within mass when proximity is to close as mass is always outward force of pressure. Mass disolves into external heat energy outside of entanglement of mass throughout space and atmospheres. When displacement can't be overcome by impaction, force collisions happen. Heat is always present in disolving mass as external heat energy outside of entanglement of mass as fire. Refraction of reflection bouncing off mass unabsorbed heat singularities lighting up the mass, it strikes vibration of refraction of reflection bouncing off mass lighting up atmospheres like filaments. Magnetism is unification of unidirectional currents flowing through and around mass as potential renewable heat energy outside and within entanglement as mass. Mass occupies space within it and without it. Heat waves are released pressure from stars atmospheric gasses disolving into external heat energy outside of entanglement of mass as dark heat energy outside of entanglement of mass. Light is only present in resistance to mass as potential renewable heat energy unabsorbed bouncing around atmospheres. Heat is the propellant, and cold space itself is the repellant. Heat energy waves outside of entanglement of mass as potential renewable heat energy is traveling through space as normal space momentum velocity propulsion to and from cold repulsion into cold repulsion as normal momentum velocity. When stars explode away their heat energy outward force of impaction hydrogen is created from faster than normal momentum of space velocity redirected currents back onto itself as internal magnetic fields grounding currents through its nucleus or core where event horizon perimeters quantumized internal magnetic fields cycling circulation centrifugal force faster than normal hurricanes force. Hydrogen under extreme pressure expands and doesn't collapse inward. Cold repulsion to heat propulsion from pure cold fabric of space devoid of heat energy within its core or nucleus. Normal momentum of space can not penetrate the event horizon of absolute zero heat energy propulsion from within each core. Circulation can only collect around the perimeter of event horizon perimeter spinning heat faster at the event horizon perimeter as magnetism centrifugal force cycling circulation within its field like a record on a record player centrifugal force of external magnetic fields don't ground currents through the nucleus or core. External heat energy outside of entanglement of mass doesn't ground currents. Mass occupies space within it and traveling through space as space itself as cold repulsion within and without mass. Shivering is rapid heat loss. Standing next to fire and absorbing heat energy into internal fields biologically stopping, shivering. Magnetism explains everything about physics without gravity and bending space and electricity. Gravity doesn't exist. It doesn't belong in physics. You can't prove hypothesis. Two facts of physics cold repulsion to heat propulsion from repulsion as perpetual motion momentum velocity as normal space as a weak external magnetic field filled with dark heat energy outside of entanglement of mass and mass as magnetic fields centrifugal forces of cycling circulation patterns faster than normal momentum of space itself. Mass doesn't burn it disolves as external energy outside of entanglement mass conservation of heat energy singularities outside of entanglement of mass as dark heat energy throughout space. Temperature equalization throughout space as magnetism centrifugal force cycling circulation faster than normal momentum of space as mass.
I like how they banned my comment about nitrogen they're.
How apt
No, they haven't.
Do u need a Snickers?
@@HermacleezTrismagasm sublingually
@ Yes, sublingually. I don't recommend rectally. Would confuse your base chakra.
@@HermacleezTrismagasm Mars bars on the other hand...
The most mundane truth speaker ever!!
He was clueless, and lied. A lot.
@@davejones7632 Mundane he was, though. Perhaps he drove a Mundao.
@@trungtamienmayquocquang7233 he bakes a mean apple pie, that is true
@@trungtamienmayquocquang7233 _"POINT OUT YOU'RE JUST GOOD AT BAKING"_
Huh? As well as being qualified in physics, and therefore knowing far more about the subject than you, I no doubt can bake a better cake than you! And fix your caps lock. There is a button on your keyboard that turns it on and off. Sigh.
@@davejones7632hey kid You like to talk nonsense, so please point out what's wrong, kid
It is a Plasma Univrrse as Plasma creates Electromagnetism not Electromagnetism creating Plasma.
Both are as incorrect as the manner in which you spelled the word universe.
Can you back that up? What observations have you made?
@ both plasma science and electromagnetism are well-established. Good textbooks abound, which you can acquire for a modest fee, or even find for free online.
Yes, well established, to ignore the æther they require and to exist on earth but somehow not in the cosmos, right Parker?
@@raycar1165 No, they exist in the cosmos as well, but they do not do the things EU claims they do.
guess earth just got lucky to get its new orbit so life could continue
It was lucky but not really random. The EU theory says that planetary orbital distances are based on the balancing of electral charges between the central sun and each planet.
@@ken2391 Does it? Can you provide a list of the charges, in Coulomb, on the sun and each of the planets?
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x No, I said according to the EU theory.
I never claimed to be an expert like yourself. I'm sorry if you can't follow the context of a given conversation.
@@ken2391 Nevertheless you do contend that "balancing of electral charges between the central sun and each planet" is something that is actually possible?
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x nope... I guess you really don't understand context. You should try improving your reading comprehension.
I want to hear more on how it's possible for a doomsday event to set humanity off course so seriously as we come to be today.
Qne can not make a logical conclusion about anything without the knowledge of the alien influence, it ought to be apparent by now that evil ET were in control but now have lost control The good Et are now trying to normalize their presences, by "hanging out" with us they do want to speak to us as we are their friends and family. We are. They love us , . 🙂 The best is yet to come. ♥ 🙂 👍
@@fixitfast110 No it is not apparent to me at all, but that doesn't mean I dismiss the possibility, I'm open to any suggestion of why things look the way they do. But is there any way for you to elaborate on why alien influence is a logical conclusion?
LERNER
Is a clueless youtube crank. Next.
@@davejones7632
SO YOU ARE A DOG OF THE ORTHODOXISTS, ORDERED BY THEM TO BANK COMMENTS WHEN THE FOLLOWING ORDER IS GIVEN
@@davejones7632 SAYING THAT YOU'RE AN INTERNET TROLL AN IDIOT THAT ONLY KNOWS WHEN THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE OPPOSITIONING BBT JUST STOP BELIEVING IN THE FLAT EARTH YOU KIDS LEARN TO ACCEPT THE REALITY, KIDS☺☺
@@trungtamienmayquocquang7233 "OPPOSITIONING"?
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x shut up bot
Long video
Big subject
You are deceived!!!!!
WWHY
Awesome. Literally
Pseudoscientific woo. Literally.
@@davejones7632 So you're either crazy or a literal bbt priest
Telling Wal where to look is so stupid
People actually paid money to listen to these clueless poseurs! Frightening.
😂😂 So why are the incompetent mainstream donors always confused by the challenges and always avoid them?
Charging money for these books and for attending talks by these luminaries constitutes a grift by definition, no argument there.
There are also clear cultish aspects: playing on the punters feelings of inferiority re maths by insisting that this is all mumbo-jumbo anyway, and also playing on their feelings of having been had by incessant dark hinting at conspiracies and dogmatic priesthoods.
However, did WT ever make any substantial sums out of the grift? My impression is that he and his cohorts were mostly after a bit of recognition, an adoring and adulating audience.
Also, I note that the followers here are united in their hatred of mainstream "gatekeepers" and their mathphobia, but beyond that none of them can give a clear or coherent account of eu teachings, when gently prompted.
In fact, many of them just seem to be looking for a home for their own particular crank ideas, and they find one in this pretend brotherhood that is fed and maintained by vagueness.
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x _"However, did WT ever make any substantial sums out of the grift?"_
Not to my knowledge. It depends how they divvied up any income from conferences and merchandise. I can't imagine there was all that much. The bulk of the funding came from a Velikovskian by the name of A. Bruce Mainwaring. He funded Talbott and others (including his son, Scott Mainwaring, who is/was with the EU crowd), via his charity, Mainwaring Archive Foundation (MAF).
Between 2001 and 2017 the charity paid Talbott over $2m for 'production of book'! A bunch of misinterpreted mythological woo, that likely sold only a few dozen copies! Even Stephen King would be jealous of such a return per sale!
The charity also funded the SAFIRE scam to the tune of ~ $4m from 2013-19*. And the EUists complain that they can't research their woo for lack of the type of funding 'mainstream' receives!
They could have set up scholarships for EUists to attend university, and finally have someone qualified in plasma physics! Or any sort of physics, for that matter.
Anthony Peratt and his son also copped for ~ $300 000 over a number of years, to research his plasma rock art woo. Funnily enough, Peratt was on the editorial board of the IEEE plasma science journal at the time, which just happened to coincide with EU woo turning up in 'invited' editions edited by.......guess who? They had never appeared in that journal previously, nor have they since. It appears they have since fallen out, with Peratt referring to EU as 'anti-science' and a 'cult'. Only after he had taken the money, though!
* How that funding occurred looked to me to be contrary to US tax laws. I did inform the US IRS. Suffice to say that MAF no longer fund the EU from what I have heard. More details available if required :)
@@davejones7632 Thanks, this is gold (comedy gold or crackpotologist gold, I am not sure which).
It looks like these are dying twitches of the cult, then, although I previously thought Velikovskianism dead by the late 80s, so what do I know...
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x _"It looks like these are dying twitches of the cult"_
Lol! Yep, pretty much the death throes. Wal 'would you buy a used car from this man' Thornhill has gone to meet the great pseudoscientist in the sky. Scott, I believe, is ~ 90 years old now, and David Talbott has had a stroke, I heard. And isn't much younger than Scott, I imagine.
Add that to the seeming drying up of funds from MAF, and I'd say they are royally screwed. Nobody left to make up new woo and sell it to the great unwashed. They just have Finn and Drew to rehash the previously debunked woo, as well as posting old stuff like this ^.
Could be a book in it - 'Velikovsky's Last Stand: Death of a Pseudoscience Cult'.
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She did for herself
No need surrogacy
For what?
Does she believe thr names?
OMG
Wal was offed by the WEF Oz . . don't be simple people
Its ashame.
If only Wal knew.
Corinthians 14:7 And even things without life giving sound, whether pipe or harp, except they give a distinction in the sounds, how shall it be known what is piped or harped?
"Life giving sound"
Before you can have anything you need sound, not vibration.
Electicity is downstream from sound. Gods Word.
Guitar strings first must be vibrated before sound is heard. When sound is heard, it vibrates the inner ear first. Without vibration there is no sound. Maybe sound is simply vibration.
Two Corinthians... walk into a bar.
@@lc285 ya but...... Gawd's werd
@@physicswithpark3r-x3x 😭🤪🤣
and me and someone talk to me