Totally love the goblets. I've solved most of my lower back pain by adjusting my stool taller in the back than in the front. Good luck with the standing up I hear lots of people like to do it that way.
So glad I ran across this video. I'd been struggling trying to throw the darned stems for a set of goblets I promised to make for friends. Your demo is exactly what I needed. After watching you make the goblet stems, I was able to make several with only a couple I had to trash. Thank you so much!
Yes, ever since I raised my wheel about 5 years ago I've been very pleased with the set up. The only time I throw sitting down is at the art center where I teach. Some of my students will slide a board under the back legs of the stool to tilt it lower in the front like you mentioned, and they like it a lot.
@EvolutionStoneware I totally agree, when i started pottery i did'nt think i would be able to keep doing it because of back pain. I now throw standing or sitting on a high stool, I found the transition from sitting to standing very easy. Phil
Thanks for posting ~ very fancy and advanced .... ......but for those who feel this way is too complex, and it might be, there’s a much “easier” way. You throw the base first, and it doesn’t have to be this tall and thin as it can warp easily in drying and firing. Throw the base, making sure it’s wide enuf at the bottom. Then throw the cup part. When both are leather hard, turn the cup over and trim it and then make a male Hump at the top center that the female base can easily fit over snugly for support. Then trim them both together and they look like one unit ~ the goal of a good Chalice. I’ve made many this way
Hey jbjosh. That is called a Giffin Grip. In the US, they are available from lots of different ceramic supply stores. If you have a local store, check with them. If not, you can order them from places like Big Ceramic Store probably. The GG, is pricey, but it's a good long term investment. Bailey makes a similar tool called the Quick-Trim bat that may be a little more affordable.
If you fill it full, the goblet holds 11 ounces. Those bins have made my life much easier by keeping my trimmings from flying on the floor. I read about it years ago in a pottery magazine. Just get a bin that will fit under a bed and cut out a section of the side and bottom so you can slide it around your wheel head. Cutting is tricky, and an oscillating power tool may come in handy. The clear plastic can be brittle.
That's not a silly question. I have a Shimpo RK Whisper. I LOVE it, and actually I just got a second identical one because I love it so much. I've had the 1st one for 10 years, and I've never had the slightest problem with it. Plus it has a hand shifter in addition to the pedal which is wonderful if you throw standing up like I do.
@ChinzPotz If you're considering raising your wheel, do it today. You'll be happy you did. I raised mine several years ago due to lower back issues, & I've never looked back. It's made a wonderful difference for my body. I put down an inexensive dense foam mat to stand on. I hose it off when I clean. I'm 5'6" and used 2 cinder blocks stacked sideways under each leg to lift the wheel. If it's unstable (mine's fine), push it against a wall.
Hey Josh, It's a little harder for me to tell if it's level with the stem in the air as opposed to the rim of the cup up, but you can definitely do it that way too. Go with what works best for you. The only time I've had warping is with highly refined clay with no grog (like B-mix) where I made the stem extra narrow. I've never had one warp with clay that has a little bit of grog. Not sure what kind of clay you like to use, but you can always make the stem a teeny bit wider if you're worried.
Just a question on your throwing.... do you always throw standing?? I haven't tired it before, but always wanted to give it a try, mainly because of back problems. Just wanted to hear your thoughts on it. Love the goblet by the way! Might have to give that one a try!
@muditsallabout You are so supportive! Thank you for taking the time to drop me notes. :) Yes, my goblets are tall. Finished they're 8" high by about 3.75" wide at the top. You could certainly make them shorter. I just like them that way. :)
@EvolutionStoneware Thank you for the feedback. I'm sure it will take some time to get the hang of it, since it will probably feel a little strange. I will give it a try... it will be a good project for hubby! ;) I'm sure my back will appreciate it! Thanks again!
Thanks great vidieo. I was wondering why after you establish where the cup should sit, you don't turn it upside down to attach the stem? How much warping do you get in the stem?
Cheers! Love those wine goblets. The tall stems are a challenge for me. Is your doggy old or just tired from partying all night? He's adorable! Thanks for the cool clip! ~ Cindy
@DirtKickerStudio Hey Cindy! With a little practice you can make stems like that, but wider ones are fine if you want to use more clay. My sweet doggy is 13 and a half years old. She just sacks out happily in her bed when I'm in the studio because she knows I'll be right there by her for hours playing in the clay.
Love these! Came across the video by accident and glad I did. Do you know what size the opening is on the top part of the goblet when you throw it? And the height. or the finished dimensions and I can back into it. Loved that you gave the dimensions on the stem, I need that :) Thanks!
Amazingly I found this old file with goblet dimensions for my students. Goblet Recommendations Stem: • ½ pound clay • 5.5 inches high • 3 inch wide base • 1.5 inch wide top • Tapered profile Cup: • ¾ pound clay • 3.75 inches high • 4 inches wide at top • Rounded profile
@ChinzPotz You'll adjust quickly to new ways to stabilize yourself - no more elbow against your knee like when you sit. I'm such a fan of throwing standing up that the only time I ever throw sitting down is when I'm instructing students since don't teach out of my own studio and all the wheels at the art center are set up for sitting. I'd be happy to share any more info with you about raising your wheel if you have questions. Just let me know.
^^ Hey, silly question... but... what kind of wheel do you use? I know people that swear by specific Shimpo ones, but I dunno.. ^^ Just curious. Great job on the goblet, btw!
Janet Conover- I prefer Highwater Little Loafers cone 6 white stoneware for my functional work. I used to use use Standard clays in my sculptural work, but I use Highwater Earthen Red now. It's just personal preference for the way the clay feels & fires with my surface treatments. Standard has some nice clays too.
Janet Conover Yaaaaayyyy! I'm excited for you! I'm sure they're beautiful. Way to go! It's a fabulous thing to stretch & try something new. And it's wonderful to hear that they turned out well. 😀 😄😀
Love that sleepy pup in the background. Thanks for sharing you're knowledge!
My sweet pup! I miss her so. ❤ Yet time marches on. Glad you found this video, and hope it helps you make many great creations. ☺
Seriously good.....................very relaxing watching and listening to these..............and a lovely end product
Totally love the goblets. I've solved most of my lower back pain by adjusting my stool taller in the back than in the front. Good luck with the standing up I hear lots of people like to do it that way.
So glad I ran across this video. I'd been struggling trying to throw the darned stems for a set of goblets I promised to make for friends. Your demo is exactly what I needed. After watching you make the goblet stems, I was able to make several with only a couple I had to trash. Thank you so much!
Watching her cut the clay and the pieces just falling away like that is really cool
Yes, ever since I raised my wheel about 5 years ago I've been very pleased with the set up. The only time I throw sitting down is at the art center where I teach. Some of my students will slide a board under the back legs of the stool to tilt it lower in the front like you mentioned, and they like it a lot.
I was asked to make some goblets, after seeing yours I know I can't but will try some anyway. Great video, and just gorgeous goblets.
@EvolutionStoneware I totally agree, when i started pottery i did'nt think i would be able to keep doing it because of back pain.
I now throw standing or sitting on a high stool, I found the transition from sitting to standing very easy.
Phil
Thanks for posting ~ very fancy and advanced ....
......but for those who feel this way is too complex, and it might be, there’s a much “easier” way.
You throw the base first, and it doesn’t have to be this tall and thin as it can warp easily in drying and firing. Throw the base, making sure it’s wide enuf at the bottom. Then throw the cup part. When both are leather hard, turn the cup over and trim it and then make a male Hump at the top center that the female base can easily fit over snugly for support. Then trim them both together and they look like one unit ~ the goal of a good Chalice. I’ve made many this way
Hey jbjosh. That is called a Giffin Grip. In the US, they are available from lots of different ceramic supply stores. If you have a local store, check with them. If not, you can order them from places like Big Ceramic Store probably. The GG, is pricey, but it's a good long term investment. Bailey makes a similar tool called the Quick-Trim bat that may be a little more affordable.
If you fill it full, the goblet holds 11 ounces.
Those bins have made my life much easier by keeping my trimmings from flying on the floor. I read about it years ago in a pottery magazine. Just get a bin that will fit under a bed and cut out a section of the side and bottom so you can slide it around your wheel head. Cutting is tricky, and an oscillating power tool may come in handy. The clear plastic can be brittle.
That's not a silly question. I have a Shimpo RK Whisper. I LOVE it, and actually I just got a second identical one because I love it so much. I've had the 1st one for 10 years, and I've never had the slightest problem with it. Plus it has a hand shifter in addition to the pedal which is wonderful if you throw standing up like I do.
Hi,
I enjoy your videos, very informative & easy to watch.
Regards
Phil
@ChinzPotz If you're considering raising your wheel, do it today. You'll be happy you did. I raised mine several years ago due to lower back issues, & I've never looked back. It's made a wonderful difference for my body. I put down an inexensive dense foam mat to stand on. I hose it off when I clean. I'm 5'6" and used 2 cinder blocks stacked sideways under each leg to lift the wheel. If it's unstable (mine's fine), push it against a wall.
I so want to make one now.. This looks like fun.
Hey Josh, It's a little harder for me to tell if it's level with the stem in the air as opposed to the rim of the cup up, but you can definitely do it that way too. Go with what works best for you. The only time I've had warping is with highly refined clay with no grog (like B-mix) where I made the stem extra narrow. I've never had one warp with clay that has a little bit of grog. Not sure what kind of clay you like to use, but you can always make the stem a teeny bit wider if you're worried.
i use the same trim tool as you at school... i love that thing
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I love the dog in the background! :)
Beautiful work. Tell me about your glaze.
Just a question on your throwing.... do you always throw standing?? I haven't tired it before, but always wanted to give it a try, mainly because of back problems. Just wanted to hear your thoughts on it. Love the goblet by the way! Might have to give that one a try!
@muditsallabout You are so supportive! Thank you for taking the time to drop me notes. :) Yes, my goblets are tall. Finished they're 8" high by about 3.75" wide at the top. You could certainly make them shorter. I just like them that way. :)
@EvolutionStoneware Thank you for the feedback. I'm sure it will take some time to get the hang of it, since it will probably feel a little strange. I will give it a try... it will be a good project for hubby! ;) I'm sure my back will appreciate it! Thanks again!
Thanks great vidieo. I was wondering why after you establish where the cup should sit, you don't turn it upside down to attach the stem? How much warping do you get in the stem?
Sieze the day! ;) I hope it goes well and you make awesome goblets!
Cheers!
Love those wine goblets. The tall stems are a challenge for me.
Is your doggy old or just tired from partying all night? He's adorable!
Thanks for the cool clip!
~ Cindy
Hi Patrick, I fire cone 6 electric primarily.
How do you get the water out of stem -did ot see you ever remove it. I am in a class and want to try some wine goblets - thank you much!!!
@Gracepots Standing is definitely the way to go! Like you said, sitting causes way too much back pain.
oh my god. Where can i buy that thing that centers the piece and holds it in place for trimming????
@DirtKickerStudio Hey Cindy! With a little practice you can make stems like that, but wider ones are fine if you want to use more clay. My sweet doggy is 13 and a half years old. She just sacks out happily in her bed when I'm in the studio because she knows I'll be right there by her for hours playing in the clay.
The Giffin Grip (bat thing) or the cutting tool? I like them both a lot.
hello my friend nice video!!!
Love these! Came across the video by accident and glad I did. Do you know what size the opening is on the top part of the goblet when you throw it? And the height. or the finished dimensions and I can back into it. Loved that you gave the dimensions on the stem, I need that :)
Thanks!
Amazingly I found this old file with goblet dimensions for my students.
Goblet Recommendations
Stem:
• ½ pound clay
• 5.5 inches high
• 3 inch wide base
• 1.5 inch wide top
• Tapered profile
Cup:
• ¾ pound clay
• 3.75 inches high
• 4 inches wide at top
• Rounded profile
EvolutionStoneware Thank you! I've made several set now, they are fun and rewarding to make.
muy lindo, como tu y la perrita, saludos desde Madrid
Whats the glaze/process you use? Electric or gas?
Great tips thx
where you found the clay and where you buy the pottery maker
@minchjam Yeah, she's up there in years. She likes the studio because she knows that once my hands are in clay I'm going to be there for while.
Can someone please tell me what that interesting dodad is that was used while trimming the cup? I have never seen one of those before.
Kailyssia Pym It's called a Giffin Grip. They're available through most large pottery suppliers in the US.
@ChinzPotz You'll adjust quickly to new ways to stabilize yourself - no more elbow against your knee like when you sit. I'm such a fan of throwing standing up that the only time I ever throw sitting down is when I'm instructing students since don't teach out of my own studio and all the wheels at the art center are set up for sitting. I'd be happy to share any more info with you about raising your wheel if you have questions. Just let me know.
^^ Hey, silly question... but... what kind of wheel do you use? I know people that swear by specific Shimpo ones, but I dunno.. ^^ Just curious. Great job on the goblet, btw!
Hypnotizing wheel
I see you have Standard and Highwater Clay in the background. Do you have a preference for throwing this project?
Janet Conover- I prefer Highwater Little Loafers cone 6 white stoneware for my functional work. I used to use use Standard clays in my sculptural work, but I use Highwater Earthen Red now. It's just personal preference for the way the clay feels & fires with my surface treatments. Standard has some nice clays too.
Thank you. I appreciate the reply. I have worked with both and was curious about your preference. I'm going to try throwing a wine goblet today.
Oh Janet, I hope it turns out awesome! 😃
EvolutionStoneware I did it! Three of them! Not even near as good as yours… But I'll improve!
Janet Conover Yaaaaayyyy! I'm excited for you! I'm sure they're beautiful. Way to go! It's a fabulous thing to stretch & try something new. And it's wonderful to hear that they turned out well. 😀 😄😀
@Tootallspottery Thank you! She is my sweet, loving friend.
Naw, she's just really chill. ;)
Nice dog...
@Gracepots Thank you so much Phil! :)
@njw02 Thanks! I'll try to do more videos soon.
Her dogs cute :)
Dang that dog must have been super tired!
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salt fired?
you did that while standing? gosh that must be tiring