WE'RE IN TROUBLE WITH THE BUILDING INSPECTOR
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In 2017 we bought our first sprinter van and spent 30 days renovating it into our dream tiny home. The plan was to van life around the world and we'd made it all the way from Canada to Africa. Fast forward to COVID...us abandoning our van in a Moroccan parking lot, flying home to Canada, converting yet another van, and then moving to our cabin in the woods.
We've always envisioned moving into the woods by the lake and building our dream tiny cabin as a home base for us to come back to in between our international van life travels. As amateur renovators and first time home owners we've done our best but it turns out we've made a lot of costly mistakes along the way. After being tattled on to the township, we had a visit from a building inspector who has now put a CEASE CONSTRUCTION order on us. What will we do next?
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Happy Father’s Day to all the fathers in our community!! If you’re reading this take it as a sign to go call your dad and tell him you love him 💕
Just did thx for the reminder lol, already sent a gift just had to call 📞 😘 hope you guys are well
Stay strong eamon & bec. I feel so sad :(((
I believe the the permit issue are the “walls” that Eamon dreamt about the night before the bad news. Remember your super power and find ways to enjoy your time until this is resolved.
I’m surprised that this didn’t come up sooner but then that is a good point on your behalf. Why didn’t the township visit you sooner to let you know months ago?? Before the many landings and stairs.
You got this!! One day it will be behind you. 🥰🥰🥰
My father has dementia and thinks I'm after his house and money so... I'm still going to call and tell him that I love him because I read this. Thank you.
I’d love to call my father, unfortunately this is the 10th Father’s Day with out him. Your videos help take my mind off sad times and I’m grateful 🖤
Quick tip from an architect! Hire a local architect/permit engineer (I don’t know the proper term in english) to help make all permits. They will have the proper knowledge of the local rules to make the process go smoother and they probably have a relationship with people from your township. They can produce drawings of your entire property and house that can help in future projects as well. It does cost a lot but if you don’t have the knowledge yourselves it is worth it to not have to take everything down.
Yes yes yes yes yes
I totally agree with you. Here in Greece before you sell your house you must hire an engineer to make sure that the house has everything in order that the city requires. And yes it costs,but its fair for the buyer to know that he has paid for a safe house.
Or you can avoid mark ass snitches…
Definitely my husband is an architect and he would say the same , someone local who knows the planners Karen x
Eamon and Bec..hope you are listening to this!
E&B, see it as blessing. The inspector coming now and flagging your building could prevent a bigger problem or accident down the line. Try not to get angry and blame. Thank the universe for highlighting this error and enabling you to fix it and continue safely to create a wonderful home for your future family & friends. Good luck.
That's how I feel.
Absolutely
Yes, this! No one was hurt. Nothing collapsed under the weight of a party. That is an immense blessing!
Agreed. Plumbing, electrical, HVAC systems... all of them typically need permits and inspections during the installation process. The deck(s) may require inspections as well. To be honest, a few of the assembly methods we questionable to me. Mainly, the lack of any joist hangers, but I'm not sure what the rules are in that area.
@@quietpassage Man, that would be awful! I would be so worried about the liability of having people over with all those stairs!
Being world travelers and a business owner permits are required for pretty much for everything very surprised they let this one slip by
@Wilhelm S Ignored it? Are you sure they got the message? Too many comments in here to catch up on all.
@MadLuc if you’re right, that’s disgusting Bc that means he literally thinks he’s above the law by moving farther out🙄
I’m a licensed electrical contractor living in Nobleton and I work out of Woodbridge. The one great thing you guys did was document all your work on video. That’s what inspectors do not like hidden treasures. Most inspectors will look at the footage and comment on anything that was done incorrectly and hopefully you guys can rectify those situations. It’s really up to the inspectors. Good luck with it all and by the way I think you guys are great
If the building has to stop sounds like it’s time to garden!
yessss :)
Therapeutic outlet I agree
Lol least they did the big stuff. 😂
They'd probably need a permit for that too.
I LOVE your idea!!!
I’m in Ottawa and have both a gung ho architect and engineer that could help. You need someone that can challenge the building codes etc. Create drawings and document what’s been done and yet to be done. Especially after the fact. You got nailed because your on line. Typically cosmetic updates you get away with no permits. Reach out if you need help
Wow. You have such an impressive name.
Great idea!
They "got nailed"* due to being in violation of, at least one, building code (requiring a permit).
@@quietpassage 😆 What view did they obstruct? Neighbors don't have any say over construction on another property. Building codes are one thing, but neighbors don't factor in unless it's a HOA or something.
I wonder how someone would know if they had permits or not.
We moved into a house with 2 14x20 level decks. My brother is a mechanical engineer and said they were built like a tank. 20 years later only the bottom two steps needed replaced from ground moisture. Every year I hear about decks collapsing during parties. With your lake and snow, the codes will keep you safe. So sorry and all the best.
I'm beyond surprised none of the people who've helped you along the way haven't ever asked to see permits or mentioned them! But it is in your best interest for your own health and safety, as well as any future family that would live in the house, that you learned this now and can make sure things are okay with the house. It's to avoid the worse case scenarios - accidents, death, injury, etc. I know people going through that grueling process right now. It's annoying and takes a long time, but there are these procedures for a reason (see all the insane and deadly accidents that civil engineering students learn about). Wishing you two a fast journey through the process!
As “influencers” of many many people, I admire your willingness to be accountable for the situation rather than be immature and angry focusing on who or why it was reported. People will learn from your mistakes rather than repeat them. Blessings ❤️
Yes, this.
We all make mistakes, it happens.
Not everyone is willing to admit when they do, let alone “learn” from it and be vulnerable and humble enough to set such a great example to the world we live in. Well done Eamon and Bec!! You two are the hardest working, adventurous young people I have ever had the pleasure of knowing ❤️
After all the van builds I’m sure you guys get in a construction groove and are so used to calling your own shots with all this that permits didn’t even cross your mind. Also good on you for being real with everybody, finding out you made a mistake is a tough pill to swallow let alone sharing it with a boat load of people. Thank you for being upfront and not letting shame seep in! Keep up the high spirits, it will all work out in the end 👏🏼
Well said!
We all screw up from time to time
Making a mistake is okay, owning your mistake is courageous and ready to fix it shows inner strength and your inner honesty. On the other hand denying your mistake even after realizing it only shows either your insecurity or your dishonest dirty mind. I am so happy to know again that you are not those type. Love you two. I know you can fix it in the right way. Even if does not fixed in a way you want, no one can take away your amazing journey and skills. We will start over if needed. Okay. Cheer up. So many professionals around you and everything online for so long, to be honest how slow are the township authority?? It sounds fishy though. It sounds like, "Okay all the hard work is done and we can take it away from them to enjoy it for us. " Sorry to put the nail like that. But if I were you, I would have felt like that. Good luck with everything dear.
@@FatemaHira-oq1dw This is a good response, which I would encourage you to put in as an actual comment to their video instead of a reply to someone else's comment, so that Eamon and Bec are more likely to see it. It deserves to be seen more!
Super true!
I sat watching the window wall episode thinking ‘wow, they are taking out all the support for that side of the roof - hope they are confident with the weight bearing calculations of those uprights, or one winter storm will wreck everything…’
And now I know that no calculations were done at all…
Listen to the engineer you hire. He may save your lives - on those steps, and on the cliff side of the cabin…
I’m thinking because they subcontracted that work, that maybe permits for that or calculations were done. Let’s hope 🤞
Feel super sure the company would have handled that side :-)
@@jenc5281 I have subcontracted a ton of work between two home renovations, and it was very common for my contractors to ask "and you'll handle the permit, right?" And then do just exactly what I asked of them, never asking to even see what the permit said.
That said, as part of the bidding process we often discussed "what code calls for," and it is hard to believe that NO ONE they interacted with mentioned a building code to them.
Yeah….sorry you guys but this was no surprise to any of us 😀😂
Being young is not an excuse, I am 21 years old and I know that (for example in Italy where I live) you have to get permits for everything, even changing the house colour.
So don’t say that it’s because you are young and new owners, because you were just naive (ps. You have parents and older friends that helped you building your home, you could have asked their advice)
The production level recently has been out of this world. I cannot believe it... but totally appreciate that you upload this top-notch stuff EVERY WEEK! You guys are bundles of joy and happiness in so many people's lives. 💕💕💕
Lol Top notch?😂😂😂
Awe thank you so so much beautiful! We feel so lucky to get to share our lives with you each and every Sunday! Thank you so much for watching ☀️
I thought you guys hired an editor? Who is editing the videos now?
@@lizame65 they talked about in in their podcast a while ago there is someone doing it I forget who but bec replies to comments
@@nadarracollette I know.
I remember when they built the first deck outside their door, many people who claimed themselves professional builders said their deck is insecure since they didn't this and that. I fear that many of their builds are hard to get permits without major revamp
LOL!! This entire time my US husband and I were wondering if your township even had inspectors or not. We were like, damn, Canada has some pretty lax construction standards, don't even have to get any of this inspected?! I'm amazed not a single "adult" figure in your realm asked you if you "plans", "drawings", "permits" for any of your projects. Especially your decks and staircases. Honestly, you guys flew under the radar for a very long time, you probably would have only made it a few weeks (at best) in California.
Would only made it a week in Michigan. They like that money. Get ready to pay for a few permits and fines. Nobody wants to see someone get something for free when they just had to pay hundreds of dollars to do half of what you did for free. Plus the permits are so they know how much to raise your taxes. Just keep smiling.
Yup if they let you keep it - it will def raise your taxes, hopefully at least the stuff at the main house will be ok. But your dock and your stairs to the water are easily removable.
@@cindytaylor7155 same in Massachusetts but your contractor should be doing that for you or at least advising you.
In Canada all you have to say is sorry
@@earthexplorer579 lol that's pretty cool. Not here they would laugh and hand you a nice large bill.
Eamon and Bec, also keep in mind that Insurance companies wont pay out for damages if work isn't done with the proper permits and by licensed electricians, plumbers etc...
A small fine from the city or a stop work order is a set back but imagine having to still paying for a mortgage on a house that is no longer standing because the insurance wont pay after it burns down.
If you don't ever allow Boomers into your circle of influence, you will have to learn things the hard way. Building permits may seem like a form of oppression, and they can be, but we all live in community with reasonable expectations of our neighbors to also value safety and quality-- for our mutual protection against fire and mishap. Property regulation has been around for centuries. Those who reported you are thinking of their own safety and property value, and are thinking of your safety and investment, too.
@@JoanOfArgghh it's not a generational thing, plenty of younger folk who know permits are required for expansions or new construction. We used to rent an off grid cabin in the middle of nowhere where a guy 'owned' he land & even then Regional District was breathing down his neck trying to get him to build proper sanitation tanks for every cabin. People even have to pay taxes on land they have bought mortgage free, which shows us we don't own it but the banks do. Canada has so much red tape bureaucratic BS it's ridiculous on top of the taxes
that is not a correct answer as long as a home owner pulls a permit and passes inspections he can do the work
@@JoanOfArgghh pretty sure Bob and Tom are both boomers lol
As a licenced contractor in WA St. I was wondering how they could get away with hill side stairs like that. Someone saved them a huge lawsuits and a sad story. Just get it engineered, drawn properly and make necessary corrections to make code compliance. Good luck
I think the majority of the comments (including myself) are "we thought about permits and thought you either had them or that Canada was less strict." Now I'm wishing we had all spoken up before so you could have taken care of it before someone had to file a complaint!! oh noooo!! Live and learn, thanks for sharing and good luck with the permits!! ♥
I did, as we have a cottage about 1 1/2 hours from them, & they responded that they had permits. Where I live, one can do nothing, I mean nothing without a permit.
I remember reading it in the comments throughout the process - especially when they started building the deck.
@@seashelify362 And, if you have a building permit, it has to be displayed where it can be seen.
So they were lying about not knowing that they needed a permit and having a permit?
@@seashelify362 Oh!
I was always wondering about permits! With the first deck, I was like “maybe it’s fine and within the minimum or just something they didn’t share” but as soon as it became something huge, with multiple levels, I was wondering what was up…
I thought the same. In my state, you can't add a small storage shed without HOA approval nor do anything without a permit. I trust my contractors to take care of it.
I was wondering the same thing! But I just figured maybe in rural Canada there were no rules. Yikes.
Would not be surprised if the lake association called up the township, most take great pride in the lake and environmental protection. The shower and sink that did not lead to the septic could have been the straw that broke the camels back.
I'm sure they were counting on Eamon being able to talk his way out of any problems. But, on the other hand, they'll have more dramatic content dealing with all of this.
@@akau1340 you see the worst in people, I suspect.
You shouldn’t be angry at your neighbors. Building codes are there to protect you from insurance liabilities and to protect future home owners. Imagine if you sold that cottage to another nice family and they wanted to alter something on the deck and they went the township only to find out nothing you did had permits, they would be stuck and penalized.
Actually, no. If they sold it, and later it was discovered work was done without permits, or, something happened and someone was hurt the new owners Title Insurance would cover it - but then the insurance company would come back after E&B for it! I know someone who built a deck without a permit on a previous house and it collapsed - he got hit with a 100K lawsuit by the insurance company
They should be very angry with their neighbors for not minding their own business if you buy a piece of property like I said in my comment and you pay taxes on it you pay for the property it's nobody's business what you do on your own property it's a bit ridiculous that the people of any state or country would allow their government to run their lives that way. The government will do whatever you allow them to do. That's not freedom
@@janetlee2136 Janet..meet reality
@@janetlee2136 So if someone purchased the property next to yours and added possibly unsafe additions to the existing home, removed the trees and landscaping and started storing hoarded junk and used cars in their front yard -- you would be fine with that because it is their own property and as a ‘good neighbor’ you would just ignore your property values plummeting? I’m betting you would be very unhappy.
@@janetlee2136 Janet, there are places in the world for people that think like you do; Somalia comes to mind right away. Yes, building codes were put into place to protect you and everybody else from dumb-shit people that just pretend to know what they are doing.
I was wondering about that, and how quickly you got approved for everything. Having a recreational property close to yours, the first step would usually be a site plan, followed by architectural drawings, engineering, followed by permits, and fees at every stage. Also, in this area, expect pushback from neighbours at every step of the way. And, never trust your neighbours; no matter how friendly they are, they are always jealous.
This is every where too!!
Very well said, neighbors are so annoying
Auch! What a complex situation, hopefully all is well for you and for our young happy builders!
Exactly that neighbors are jealous
Agree with all, EXCEPT your last statement. There are good neighbors, and "bad" neighbors. A neighbor that builds willy-nilly is NOT a great neighbor. Personally, I have had great neighbors, the BEST (waterfront, and otherwise).
Not sure why you would think that you wouldn't need a permit. In Ontario you need permits for everything.
a very common statement........."its easier to ask forgiveness than permission"
of course they knew about the permits, they decided to forge ahead without in order to produce weekly Vlog. they would have had to wait months for permits and variances from the township.
also.............local common knowledge that Mosa is back in shelter/other foster care. its posted online that he's up for foster/adoption. he is not in his "forever home" this is after tim tried to yank out porcupine quills and got bit. of course he bit, it hurt.
eamon and bec=====your content integrity has been shaken
I understand that everyone has to follow the local building rules, it would have been nice if the locals who complained talked to you first and ask if you were aware the need for permits/inspection etc. Why would you watch people spend good money to possibly have to re-do it? That just seems unkind & unfriendly. I don't know.
Jealousy
also the general safety concern related to some of the renovations or builds. moving walls, cutting down pols in the kitchen, playing with electricity, are all connected to their safety and the long term safety of the house (future owners). you wouldnt want the beautiful glass wall to break next winter because the support wasnt properly made and the cold makes the house move and crack the windows for example.
It's not as if they are interfering with their neighbour's. I don't give a rats ass if my neighbor builds on to hes house as long as it does not effect me. They got real pain in the ass neighbour's. Not like they living on top of each other
@@janlobb4463 I'm not saying safety isn't important or they should have special privileges and not get permits or retrospectively. It's the way people go about things. Communicate with people, inform them, educate them, be kind. Then, if you see them continuing to ignore the rules & keep building you gave them a chance.
Really though if they had to wait for permits from a bureaucracy during a pandemic god only knows how long that would take. Years I would think. Oh and the cost and greasing of palms for the permits. Now they are looking a fines and having to take it all down!?! Dear God!
I am so sorry! Watching your vlog I actually had the thought a few weeks ago "wow, Canada is really liberal with those building permits." I actually wondered if Canada did not even have permits! Those stairs will absolutely need some work guys, based on my history with inspectors. I am shocked no one said anything to you. Good luck, as always!
Early in the project I said to my husband …. “I don’t think Canada requires permits and inspections.”
What a can of worms. GOOD LUCK!!
You telling me that you both didn't know you need a permit for building a house, that's like saying you didn't know the car needed rego or you didn't know you need a licence to drive a car
And all the people who have come worked on the house, their parents, families, etc....how didn't they know? They are just playing dumb. Being 1st time home owners is NOT an excuse. Ive never owned a home and I know you need permits and to follow building code!
@@CaliMel184 really disappointing 🥺 it’s so hard to root for them for so long and see blatant disregards in their character lately 🥺
I hope everything works out! All they had to do was call and let you know ……
Love the new dock. Hope the permit issues are fixed easily and without any more trauma.
I wonder if the pressure to create interesting content week after week subconsciously led to this problem. Watching an attractive young couple navigate bureaucracy doesn’t sound exciting but that may be what we’re in for now. Best of luck moving forward.
Exactly. They didn't want to lose out on the tens of thousands of dollars they make every month from their videos. I like them, but come on. Of course they knew what they were doing.
Too bad.they chose this way to finance themselves
You definitely need to review your deed to check to see if you even have water rights to the lake. You can’t get mad at the people who reported you, but you should be pissed at the people who knew better and didn’t make sure everything was in place to do the work.
They said in a video months ago they have waterfront property
@@chrissyjansen502 The property may be waterfront but that does not guarantee they have rights to access the water. It’s called Riparian rights in the US, not sure about the Canadian version.
No you can be mad. Whose life is that boring that they report people building their dream home?
@@kotaa6967 if they had gotten the necessary permits it wouldn’t have mattered if they were reported. It would have saved them time and money from the beginning. Are permits convenient? No, but they protect you as the homeowner if something happens to your property or you plan to sell it. If someone were to get injured on one of those decks without permitting, the homeowners insurance policy would deny the claim leaving them to be sued personally. It is really important.
I really like you guys, but several months back I asked if you had permits & you said “yes”. Sometimes the inspectors check at the lumber yards & follow up on those buying large amounts of wood.
Interesting .....
I commented elsewhere wondering if they are lying about "not knowing" they needed a permit. AND stating that they had one. Just curious 🤔
do you know which video you commented that to them on?
@@amaiaamaiaa no I have watched all of their posts, however I think it was when they were doing their first deck ... there are so many rules & regs about decks & they never mentioned the regulation headaches. (In comparison to Trent & Ally). Having felt like we had to write a thesis to the conservation authorities to do some work around our cottage, I was just curious. But every township & conservation area is different. They were always so upbeat I just let it go, thinking it was not a focus of their vlogs. I know they can be out of touch ... they went off on a van trip during Ontario stay at home lock down & were surprised when nothing was open. Oh well, I just hope the best for them.
@@amaiaamaiaa It was Nov 13 when I asked them if they were being careful with permits as Ontario is extremely anal around permits and they responded “always”!!
The end of the day ~ this isn’t worth stressing you’re both healthy ! Rock on
Hopefully they clear the dock and stairs with the local conservation authority. They can be very particular. When we built a deck and installed an above ground pool and fencing we required permits. Lesson learned in this case. Guests and future owners of the property will be protected if things are not done to code. You just can't cut corners on the important stuff.
You're going to need a lot more weight for that dock. If you leave the floating part in for the winter, it will float away with the ice. If not, you're still going to need a lot more weight.
I’m sorry to hear this but man- how did you guys not know that you need permits? Surely Tim or a family member who has owned a home would have said something?
yeah it really sucks, i hope they dont have to remove anything! But yeah all those people must know that stuff .. but maybe they just thought they had the permits :)
With a reply like that, Canada is really becoming a joke.
Tim may have figured the permits were in place as they had already done so much work when he started helping them. It is certainly not his fault or his responsibility.
That's what I thought. They have other adults around them.
not Tim's fault whatsoever. I'm pretty sure they hired him to build stuff not give house ownership advice. If they wanted to know about permits and stuff they should have asked someone who's actual job is that. Or just phone the township, or even Google it. It's not rocket science. No-one else is fault except their own.
My family cottage is in the same Township as yours... make sure you check with the conservation authority too! We had to replace our retaining wall last year. Luckily my mom used to be employed by the planning department there and helping people with permits was her job there. The Conservation Authority opens a whole other can of worms that we are currently facing trying to put in a bunkie. Your top deck and interior renos should be okay because they occurred to a preexisting building but, the stairs and platforms B-Z may give you a lot of trouble.
It seems like they're more after add-ons permit wise, it's the same in France.
Exactly, building on a waterfront is tricky .... lots of environmental concerns. That should be okay with Eamon & Bec though, I am sure they are pro protecting nature, wildlife.
Yeah....I don't think they want to hear that just now.....
@@julierogers1155 they may be pro wildlife people, but the multiple decks may not be allowed
Conservation authorities in Ontario don’t have a lot of patience for people who don’t follow their rules and they need to be consulted anytime you modified the shore line…. Like adding a floating dock…
I found this comment from 7 months ago
'Eamon please read! I am a licensed contractor, building houses for over four decades,. Your deck is not built properly and is potentially dangerous! You need steel joist hangers, lag bolts, blocking, steel X bracing, posts should not be set directly into concrete, proper spans. The ledger attached to house should have stand offs, lags and flashing, it will start rotting next year if not done properly! Building a deck flush with interior floor allows snow, ice and rain to migrate to the interior. I don't mind if people not pull permits and have inspections, however codes are there for good life safety reasons! At least build to code! We don't want to see you, your family and friends get hurt!
Slow down Eamon! Faster is not better! Do more research!, find people to help, that don't just know slightly more than you... Please fix as soon as possible! All the best!'
They preferred to just wing it though.
I kept watching them using decking screws for structural build and was just cringing, you can really tell when Bec does the tour of the deck and it is creaking so much... it will only be a matter of time before the heads snap clear off and things break...
Excellent find
@@CaliMel184 yeah there is no way they didn't know they needed permits. they were just hoping they'd be able to do all this and nobody say anything, except for the noise is gonna have neighbors go "Nope."
like, people helping them and the commenters saying about permits, you don't just start building blind. they'll be lucky if they're not forced to take everything down, on top of the fines.
@@p0stal1987 well, then they get whats coming. its really not that hard to do it right the first time. the fines are worse than the initial permits and now its just making drama for the youtubes -
i'm really unimpressed with this.
I was very surprised that you can build on the lake. I live in Europe near the sea and shore is strictly protected.
My family owns lake property in Canada and when we mow the lawn we even have to have a measuring tape out to make sure we aren’t within a certain amount of feet from the water. There are VERY FEW things we can even do on our own property because of Canadian laws and property rules. I thought about this every week, I wonder if they have a permit because I know how strict everything is and how fly by the seat of your pant y’all are.
Really do love you two these videos are the first thing I watch every Sunday.
I hope you can get approval for all the permits and get an inspector to sign everything off!
( also totally know it sucks but it’s not on the contractors to get the permits they should but they don’t have to it’s up to the home owner to secure it. They usually take work where they can get it. Weather there is a permit or not)
I can relate. We have 56 acres on a Corps of Engineers lake in East Texas. Lots of rules and restrictions.
I'm sure they knew all about permits and were just going to play the young and dumb card if caught. After all, they stay in touch with Trent and Allie who are all about filming the permitting process.
@@akau1340 Trent and Allie are doing a new construction though. But as you said they couldnt of actually thought they could do all that construction without approval from an engineer.
When I was watching your initial deck build my dad (engineer) was telling me that the deck was not being built to code. I didn't bother commenting though because you had Tim helping you and I figured he would have filled you in on all the codes/laws/permits etc.
Quite a few other people commented. I don’t think they read them. I guess you can’t read every comment.
I have also seen comments about the structure of the decks etc. I have no legit building experience but I'm always thinking about how their builds are going to survive winters and the weight of snow.
Same here. but hey. im from sweden and we have a complete other way of building. (like drywall, that is not a special practice. like all builders get to learn it but you can be more focused on it.)
I stopped commenting but yea as an engineer those decks won't last. Much of the deck build will not hold up
@@mikaelbertilsson160 Yep, same here in finland. I think the nordic countries always build with winter in mind so things hold up longer. Would think that it's the same in canada but maybe these two didn't think about that too much😅
I used to live on a lake. I have a feeling it's your surrounding neighbors saying, "hey how come these guys have their permits to build so fast and I am still waiting for mine?" - more than any one specifically told on you. The permit department like most departments are slower than molasses in June. So everyone around you who's been waiting for permits have probably been noticing the fast pace your moving on the things they are wanting to build as well. Your culprit may be the next person building a porch. Anyway, sorry to hear the disappointing news, but I super enjoy your channel!! Thank you!
Yes, or people who were denied permits to build platforms and stairs down the grade to the lake for reasons of conservation.
@@IvyRoad Sure, if I was denied a permit for that kind of work - and saw a neighbour doing it, I would obviously call and say "So you gave them a permit to do the work, but denied me?" looking for fairness... which probably triggered them wondering why.
@@justinc5356 Yes, I think this is the most likely scenario. People with cottages in the area wondering if the rules had changed, and if they could now build on the grade to the lake, too. They may also have known why the original owners did not have easy lake access in all the years they had a cottage there, and people would want to know what changed. Not necessarily any kind of mean-spirited act at all. People simply wanting to know why these people were privileged beyond everyone else.
Would love to see the next video be you guys explaining why building permits are important and apologizing to your neighbors because you are taking full responsibility (not blaming others at all).
I think the destruction of the trees and the land is going to be a big issue - that's an entirely different can of worms
Building codes are for a reason so we don’t have collapsed buildings from ignoring regulations. I’m sure they will make it right. Ignorance is not always bliss in this case!
@@jackie8357 I agree. That part (decks/stairs) are not a code "safety" issue, but I expect the Conservation Authority gets involved at this level.
It's sad, because the multi-decks with stairs gave them easy access to the shore, and offered a lovely place to sit and drink their morning coffee etc. I suspect that if anything has to be taken down, that'll be "the thing".
42” high guardrails at all platforms about 30” above the ground and vertical pickets so you can’t pass a 4” sphere through. Railings will need to be designed to withstand horizontal loads also which is often overlooked. Simpson strong tie wood connectors will be your friend.
I know you guys are disappointed but saying someone is projecting seems a little harsh. Maybe someone is, but the truth is you guys didn’t go about it the right way, & that’s nothing to be mad at someone else about. Live & learn. Hope it gets resolved quickly.
Sorry the construction is on hold guys. I've renovated two houses over the years and made lots of mistakes along the way. Here's hoping any corrections are minor and you are back on track soon with lots of new knowledge under your belts. There's always hurdles but you will get there! Love you guys 💗
I’m surprised that the many professionals who worked on your property didn’t mention that you need to be permitted! Tim, the glaziers, electricians etc.
Although they are a hassle (and a rip off), the basis of the idea is to ensure that your house is safe for you and whomever you may sell the cabin to in the future.
Well stated.
Yes you would think even the realtor would tell you this. Knowing these 2 are first time home owners
When I worked at a big box home building supply store I'd always throw in the "I'm sure you know but just remember to get your permits" in case they didn't know. 99.9% of the people knew but the other 0.1% were thankful that I mentioned it as our town's building inspector was nasty with not only stopping a build but preventing you from living in the place until everything was all taken care of. But in their defense this came after some multi-millionaire business owner took advantage of the workload of that dept and built their entire home without permits thinking they could get away with it. Of course I'm not saying that's what Eamon and Bec are doing but it happens and I hope that with you working with them they can get it all straightened out quickly and be back on track asap.
I'm surprised folks who know about building permits subscribed to this channel did not bring it up or ask the question. I'm also surprised that Eamon didn't think about it since his buddy's channel "Trent and Allie" are almost always talking about permits and inspections building their home. Hope they get through this ordeal successfully even though it might cost them a pretty penny. I still think Eamon is a clever person, love him and Bec's ideas. Lesson learned, move on and just end up doing better!
@@SesameBuns who knew you had to have permits to put new windows in. Decking. Ah maybe. What else did they build
There is a difference between "repair" and upkeep and making structural changes and additions. Hopefully you can work this out. I don't know how you didn't know about needing permits. Didn't Tim even ask if you hired him at first?
This!
Didn't anyone ask them, including family and friends? I just don't buy that they didn't realize. It's building 101.
In backcountry like this, NO ONE goes through the trouble of permitting because all of the neighbors do their own construction and work. It’s often understood that if you report on people, it comes back around … I would bet they were advised by others in the community that it wasn’t needed.
I know it may vary from place to place, but other than the outdoor shower and electrical, what do they even need permits for? Like.. cant you get new windows and build a deck without permits? I didn't know rules were that strict and neither did anyone in my family when I just asked them. So.. E&B aren't alone in being confused.
I guess maybe changing the size of the windows is what makes the difference? Idk.
@@KellyBeth in my area in the US it takes so long to get permits approved everyone just files it and builds whatever they want assuming they’ll get approved so not too outlandish
The way you expanded out from the cabin, adding stairs to the lake - that was going to be seen quite a long way. I'm surprised you got as far as you did before someone complained! Probably chopping down more trees will rattle a few folks as well. Get an architect onboard quick, preferably a local one. Good luck, you'll be fine :)
If they've chopped down trees, they should expect that local conservation authorities are going to show up soon too
I agree, once I saw the size of the deck I knew someone was going to report them. I just thought they already had building permits secured, you guys will make it through it!
@@meganpennington343 You're allowed to chop down trees on your own property. As long as they aren't clear cutting, or cutting down preserves. Not sure what you're going on about.
I couldn't believe the damage they did with those trees. Just because they didn't like them there. Selfish
@@rebeccamillmn3401 ? they cut down trees on their own property, which they're allowed to do, for space. i don't like cutting down trees, but they've stated that they plant more trees to make up for it. also, they have a wood burning stove. its cheaper to get some wood from your own backyard than to spend 100's if not 1000's of dollars to get a pile of precut wood from the store.
Don't bitch about "people ratting you out" for building without permits. You live a life of privilege and have chosen to be a public figure and finance your life style and builds through your viewers. Be a better example for others. It's fine if you "didn't know" that all property builds require permitting etc.. but the fact is if you ever decide to sell your property then all those builds you cut corners with and all the fines, fees and proper paperwork that comes with them will fall to the next buyer/owner and that's just a fucked up thing to do. Don't be that jerk who cuts the line while everyone else has been waiting in the hot summer heat for hours just to get a popsicle man'. you dig. - spoken out with all my love and respect. Proud of all you've accomplished thus far. keep up the great work!
Be prepared...I have seen building inspectors in Rideau Lakes, Bedford and Frontenac TWP make non permitted construction ... teardown and start again...with huge fines ...if not paid....tacked on to your taxes !!!!!!
I hope everything works out! But, just as a friendly reminder, permits exist for a reason, they aren't just there to make your life difficult. Think about the beautiful piece of heaven where you purchased your cabin. If there were no permits, that piece of heaven would soon become polluted, overbuilt, crowded, and loud. This is why permits began to be required in the first place. So if you think of the permits that you are required to get as security that the land you are blessed with will remain enjoyable in the future, maybe that will take away some of the frustration. And your neighbors have probably dealt with people much less charming and thoughtful than you in the past, and have had to fight battles against people putting up huge, invasive structures. It's really just about keeping the location one that is beautiful and enjoyable for everyone who lives there.
Absolutely agree with the intentions of permits, but coming from the perspective of someone living in San Francisco, and having dealt with planning/building in Oakland as well, the system is built against home owners in many places.... maybe not so in Canada or other parts of the world in some instances, but permits are unabashedly expensive, unbelievably slow to receive and the departments that handle them really couldnt give a fuck less about you in many instances... i would like to think maybe they are underfunded but with how much a permit costs i cant really see how thats the issue!!!
Anyway, i do agree permits are a necessary thing, but It seems only fair to point out how often the system of receiving them and dealing with the powers that be can be stacked so harshly against home or business owners.
And that the home wiring that is done doesn’t burn the place down. Think of the other people that want to save a bunch of money because “It should be ok”. I honestly just thought you weren’t filming getting the permits as it would be too boring.
@@SirCheese710 agree 100%. While they serve a purpose to protect homeowners, the land & the public, they also serve the purpose of controlling us & making the governing organizations money. Smh. Too bad it's not actually just about safety & protecting the earth.
McMansion cessation.
It’s all about money really if someone owns their land they shouldn’t have to go through government to do anything on their land oh how the pioneers had it easy in so many ways daily life was hard but they where truly free
My uncle built a beautiful cabin in Quebec not far from Ottawa. On a lake no permits. Well he sold the cabin as they got older. Those people had issues and guess what they sued for a couple of million dollars. The buyers did not get that much but they did get mucho money because no permits were ever pulled. No inspections done. This a lesson learned for your future endeavors. You will get through this and finish what you started. Be patient. Do what you have to do. Your future complete home will be fantastic.
Hope the inspector works with you both, your not doing anything wrong. Building inspections are to keep you safe, not reprimand people for stuff they want to do. Your doing such a nice job on the place too!
I just found your channel from Kara and Nate's channel I love your videos been binge watching since, you're not the first UA-camrs that I've seen people call in and complain about building permits it gets me so upset to see that they do that when you're just trying to make content for us, anyways glad you got it all figured out and thanks for all the great videos can't wait to finish watching all of them ❤️😍❤️😍
i honestly had this thought last week and was like, i wonder if they got permits for any of this. lol
I also live in Ontario, and my family has run into many issues with permits and construction on our home! When we decided to sell our family home, we ran into major problems and had to reconstruct our entire basement (for a second time) and re do our whole staircase. It was stressful and expensive! I feel for you both, but am also glad it happened now versus when you are completely done 🥺 good luck!
Now the two of you can do a skill share course on local permits
Hahahhhha love this! 😂😂
It’s very nice your neighbours help you out so much
Eamon maybe there is a course on skillshare on how to square a deck..lol
😂😂😂
The mistake was not having the same length sides.
Doesn't matter where you live you always need permits. It actually protects you when inspectors come evaluate the build. Love all the videos though.
Hey! I live out in the Bert (Alberta) and I have my own small company that does design and permit sets, etc. With the pandemic so many renovations have been going on that permits have been more important than ever. So many newbies doing everything solo. Back in the day permits were used a lot less but even if you increase your window size you must get a permit as there are bylaws on how much window coverage you can have.
At the end of the day it's about safety (and a lot of yellow annoying tape, forsure) but because you have so much footage of your reno you can prove how it was constructed and I doubt they will ask you to tear anything down. A new energy code was introduced in Canada a few years back and it's added another layer of complexity to how things are done.
It's very likely because you have a UA-cam channel that you got flagged but even from my standpoint there are some things that I would even gotten a permit, if I were in your shoes...but if I wasn't in this business I would have had no fricking Bob clue... Minus right now there are signs in all of Alberta saying "REMEMBER YOUR PERMIT" lolz! Anyways you've got this. You can get engineerings to stamp your already done work. I'll be okay! I regret not commenting before about permits but I somewhat assumed you had and didn't show the WILDLY boring part. You guys are awesome! Enjoy your dock!
Hope everything works out for you both, you've made your cabin look so much better than when you first moved in.
Although I understand you are disappointed about having to stop building, it is important to have the correct permits and inspection done. It safe guards not not you, but those who may come to enjoy your property over the years. Your decks and walkways to the lake can become very hazardous if not constructed properly. I have heard you say several time that you don’t know what you are doing, so consider hiring someone who knows the ins and out of construction to assist you.
Another note, your insurance company and mortgage company can also have a problem with you doing construction on the property that is not permitted and inspected.
New Skillshare Course:. When To Pull Permits
You'll end up paying $thousands in fines. And possibly removing everything you've completed. My Aunt in Alberta installed a car port and a 4th room. She paid $30k in fines and had to remove it. The sad thing was she paid a contractor $22k for the job. He then charged her $11k to demo. She's had a temporary wall for 8 years now on the side of her house.
Love these guys but definitely saw some load path issues, needs to come apart and be done correctly. Safety over time ….
I don’t understand why everyone is so upset with the person that complained! Like I love Eamon and Bec and hate this for them but there are rules for a reason! They are doing all of this without a permit and then what if they decide to sell one day and they didn’t do something properly? I understand they may not have known they needed one but now they do!
Because they didn’t need to report them! They could have just went to Eamon and told them they needed permits!
@@CTN404 yes they could have but some people don’t feel comfortable doing that! This isn’t kindergarten where they are tattletaling! Do your research before you start big projects! Like I said it sucks big time for Eamon and Bec but they have nobody to blame but themselves!
Just go up to them once, say hey.. it's a requirement to get a permit. No need to be a rat ahole and report someone without giving a warning.
@@CTN404 also who’s to say Eamon and Bec would have listened to them? It wasn’t that persons responsibility to go them to let them know they needed a permit!
@@gabyenbcn There's no guarantee Bec & Eamon would have taken that seriously and halted work to get a permit though. They might have thought the neighbor was just being a nosey Karen and ignored them. I think professionals coming in and halting work is probably the only thing they would take seriously.
MNR will often photograph lakeshore and compare year over year images checking for changes that were made without consulting them. People have changed their shorelines by dumping sand etc Only to find out the need to remove it all and return the natural shoreline foliage back the way it was... Permits permits permits.. Top tier deck should be fine, the others leading to the lake level will likely have to be checked & or replaced. The outdoor shower is there a proper drain system??
Smh that’s crazy if you own the land then it shouldn’t matter what you do on your property government control way to much of everything these days I honestly wish I was born back in the day where you could just pick some land and make it your own!!
@@shellyb2042 no one really owns the land, in the States or in Canada. Don't pay your taxes? Then you'll find out who really owns the land.
@@shellyb2042 So its ok to build a dangerous deck and electrical system then sell the house to people who will get hurt if it collapses? ok...
A voice of informed reason, sanity. Thank you.
Coming soon: Will Eamon & Bec keep blaming the neighbors OR will they own their own actions?
I'm so disappointed about Mossa...you should have been honest about the 'forever home'.
what happened?
@@p0stal1987 lied about what? what happened to Mossa?
The DOG bit a HUMAN........that was tryna help him....they trying to stop the DOG from biting other HUMANS at thier home...... Clearly you have no clue what it is like being attacked by an animal AKA DOG!!!! AN ANIMAL THAT CAN EASILY TURN ON YOU. MOSSA HAD TO GO!!
@@caribbeancharmgardening90 you're the one that have no idea about dogs, specially rescues. They were at fault for the bite 100% for trying to take out the quills instead of taking him to the vet. They even admitted they were at fault
@@nick6443 the dog was too much for them full stop..he is aggressive and after the loss of their friend they no longer had the engeries that the dog needed to thrive.. .. just dont see why people jumping down their throats for sending the dog back....
They commented in a previous video weeks ago to someone saying to be careful with permits - they replied "always!". I get why it's frustrating to have to wait but it isn't right to lay blame on others for people calling you out on it. Not a good look.
Wow really? If that's the case, it changes my opinion of them quite a bit. I did find it unlikely that permits never crossed their minds, given their friends who are building in Utah talking about it regularly, but a confirmation of them straight up lying about not knowing is just bad.
They talked about permits on their podcast also about building to code and all. Eamon said something about permits being stupid if it's private property
Im a contractor by trade, honestly the main reason you probably got caught is because you have video evidence of all the stuff you’ve done and probably the inspector watched them :(
The moment they tried installing drywall is when i knew they didn't have permits. I think its when they start to build the stairs to the lake is when the neighbors was like...
@@jeremys6631 Yeah I think it was the decks down the hill, more than anything else.
Do you need permit S for dry wall in Canada? Don't in my country.
Wow - that could be that the contractor saw the You Tube clips. It sounds like they were getting complaints though, and that could be from people across the lake or closer on their side.
Yeah I think they just say someone complained as an excuse to inspect.
I was really wondering about the permit thing and if you guys were actually building to code, just thought Canada was less strict then other places
Same. I was thinking this the whole time.
Canada is pretty strict! A lot of things that are legal in the US aren’t here. But each province is different. Ontario has some pretty strict laws, especially as relates to stairs/balconies/electric, etc
I thought Canada was more strict honestly.
Canada and Ontario is very strict.
Canada has a building code that the whole country has to build follow, and on top of that the Province of Ontario has it own building code.
@@missheniki And snow loads, especially where this cottage could be, if its in the snow belt that comes on of Lake Huron, those loads are twice than lets say Toronto.
If I recall correctly, the deck was mentioned awhile back as the future marriage ceremony location, like maybe this summer. So I hope that plan takes into consideration the safety and well being of the guest list who will congregate on said deck that was built without proper permits and inspections
OMG. Good point.
It's a sign. You don't always have to be building something. Have some fun - go on some adventures
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I’ve been wondering how you were getting away with all that construction.... figured you just weren’t mentioning the permitting process. I’d expect complications on the decks and stairs. Best wishes for easy outcomes.
i was also wondering this LOL
I'd be SHOCKED if those stairs don't get completely ripped out.
@@timwentz4913 Those stairs are coming out for sure... You can't anchor decks with railing spikes... It's a beautiful deck/stairs, but the entire build I was facepalming .
super hard to believe no one in any single process thus far mentioned permits and codes, especially Tim.
Maybe they think everybody does something like that and it's all good as long as you don't get caught
@@brianlam257 you are exactly right, they don't care as long as they get paid.
None of the workers will foot the bill for the fines it's the home owners. Hopefully they don't try to set up a fundraiser for these fines. That would be textbook manipulation
Incredulous that you didn’t know about the permits. But it has happened and I wish you the best in getting it sorted and hope that you can work it out with the inspectors so you don’t have to alter too much of your hard work. Sending best.wishes from UK.
While I appreciate the fact that you are owning your mistake regarding permits & that's good, I really don't know how it never crossed your mind that they wouldn't be needed. Eitherway
I really hope it works out for you and can get retrospective planning permission.
Ya think it didn’t cross their minds mmmmmm I wonder. Remember they got caught. I know lots of people who say nah I’m not gonna do permits, I’m gonna wing it and if anyone complains then I will get permits.
Also gotta remember they are totally public. That was not a smart move at all. We all live and learn but of course they had to say that on their vlog because the permit people have access to all the videos
These comments are super harsh. Bec admits off the bat admits that they should’ve known better. It’s not a big deal, they made a mistake and are accepting that they need to know more in the future.
oh, It’s a big deal. its about to cost them thousands!!
Ok ok ok yes it’s a big deal but anything can be fixed. Yes it may cost some fines but it’s not like they did this on purpose. I realize that ignorance is NO EXCUSE but give these kids a break. I believe they had NO bad intentions so let them live & learn & pay the price & get on with life. I’m sure the authorities are not out to get them & will work with them to get things legal !! 💕💕💕
@@jeremys6631 I didn’t mean it’s not a big deal to them, I just mean people acting like they’re stupid and ignorant is making a bigger deal out of their mistake than it is. It’s definitely a big deal for their house no doubt!!
I think the comments are supporting Tim who seems to be getting a part of the blame. He came along to help them after they were deep into renovations and would have no idea they did not get the permits. It is not fair to put the blame where it does not belong.
@@cheriedewald5282 for real, Tim is a sweetheart who is very close to them both, why would he ever want to do something to hurt them? He’s not a dumb guy, mistakes were just made! I’m glad most people are not just shitting on tim though
I was wondering when you were getting inspected- Trent & Allie get theirs all the time.
Half their vlog is complaining about that.
I don’t think they watch Trent and Allie. I really find it hard to believe they had no idea they need permits?
Also, Trent and Ali live in a different country. Not every country have the same rules/laws
@@kran8569 They are like besties with Trent and Allie - they have made videos together and T&A bought them a coffee maker for Xmas...
in Canada when people are building, or just having fun, a lot of older people who miserable doing nothing with their lives complain and call the cops on them
I hope all goes well you have made such a beautiful improvement and still kept the integrity of the structure!
See In my town if you are replacing and keeping it the same you don't need a permit. The minute you add too or change you need a permit. Usually the contractor gets the permit even if it's inside or outside. I grew up in construction with my dad and grandpap.
I feel for them, but they should have done their due diligence before the renovations and new builds started. I truly hope for their sake the issues can be resolved painlessly.
Eamon and Bec’s lake neighbors that reported them took the proper action. Their neighbors are rightly concerned about the safety of their own properties and wish to ensure that all the new builds and the renovations being done, particularly electrical, are up to code. If Eamon and Bec’s cabin were to catch fire because of faulty wiring, the fire would spread quickly and devastate the entire area.
Building permits and inspections are mandatory for a reason - safety. Without the proper building inspections to ensure the work is up to code, they could also be denied insurance as the cabin may be deemed to present a higher risk. Eamon and Bec are not being targeted unfairly. If anything, the neighbors should be commended for being concerned for their safety and welfare.
I thought about this, just figured Canada was different.
No assholes live everywhere!! Neighbors are just jealous of their success!!
Canada has building regulations too. Any major renovations must be filed and cleared for safety from the proper authorities
@@debbiebown3972 not neighbors, clearly viewers on their channel called.
@@cindy-ml7vo yeah, I just wasn't sure if they were more relaxed in outdoor structures or something.
Yes we researched this too and found that in the US general contractors are responsible for pulling permits whereas in Canada it is the responsibility of the property owner. Unfortunately all the different contractors they've had come help and not a single one has mentioned a permit. They must have really needed the money they earned from helping them.
I was already wondering if Canada/ Ontario is super chill! I mean even if complaints wouldn’t have been filed sooner or later the local administration would have checked seeing this massive patio. The permits are not there to annoy people but for hazard prevention and keeping everyone safe and also keeping the environment safe. I hope you don’t have to tear off everything again and what you’ve built will be approved retrospectively!
I wish you guys best of luck and now you know for the future 💕 it’s all a learning curve :D
Ontario is the opposite of super chill, in everything.... ugh guys I feel awful for you.
its not. Not at all. They are in some deep expensive doodoo.
I bet skill share has a course on "what steps to take and permits required before you start building/renovating" ....check them out!
Nailed it!
Ouch 😅
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My Uncle is an architect and he's always telling me about his one famously inept client, George, who is constantly in trouble with one town board or another. He smoothes the waters, makes nice-nice, provides the town with everything they require, and George lives to fight another day. I echo the sentiment below; hire an architect. What he'll cost is nothing compared to what he can save you in time, anxiety, and fines.
Good advice but I can't agree with it as I've worked with many architects and engineers. Have yet to meet one that is affordable or is figuring out something I couldn't.
hire a structural engineer - architects are not necessary. engineers have pull with the planning dept. and know the codes way closer
I was wondering how building was going so quickly with the usual permit process...
Same!
They seemed so onto things I just thought they knew the permit system really well or things just move quickly in Canada!
Especially during COVID when the permit process isn't as usual.
Honestly, I don’t think anyone ratted on you. Every single time a building inspector has shown up they ALWAYS use that exact same line… multiple complaints… hope this helps! Just give them their slice of the pie and keep on trucking haha
Very distasteful how it appears that there are viewers taking delight from this situation. At least that’s what it seems like reading through the comment section. Any how, beautiful home as always (mobile or not! ❣️) Definitely am sending you guys a lot of love and light!
This happened with my parents and their new neighbours. They were an older couple that just decided to make some modifications to their new home purchase without even realizing they required permits to do so. Initially my mom was a super angry karen and wanted to report them but my father ended up just speaking to them about the process and realized that they just had no idea they even needed a permit to do the minor modifications they wanted. They were totally willing to take down what they had already done and get the proper paperwork and everything worked out. I think everyone just expects you to be an expert on everything and know the risk when there's really no guidance on how home ownership and renovations work. The onus is unfortunately always on you as the home owner/person contracting out to learn everything :P
That is so true, what do we actually know before making the mistake and get it pointed out? We as normal humans who don't work in that particular line of work, know nothing about anything and everyone just expects we do. The people who installed the windows should've said something for sure. Or at least asked if they had the permit. Those who reported them without talking to them first are real asshats. Talk first, complain only if necessary
Totally. A lot of people, and rightly so, assume that since they own the property and the home they can do what they want to their property as long as it's not glaringly dangerous. Unfortunately, in this day and age, ownership doesn't mean you have the right to act on your own property. I'm not just talking about building codes because I understand why they exist, but for example, in a lot of states in the US it's not legal to buy some land and just build a tiny house. You won't be able to get permits to build a structure that small if there's not a larger house on the property because it "brings down the value of the rest of the neighborhood" and considered "camping." It's legitimately illegal to camp on your own land for over 2-3 weeks in some states and counties.
Love your gusto, but as mentioned before, as a licensed carpenter, I see a bazillion kinds of wrong in every episode. Sorry for your hassle, but the code protects yourself and future owners from shoddy workmanship. Good luck, chin up, and start fixing. I would recommend not pissing off the building official , be courteous and work with them, or they can make your life hell. Best of luck.
I'm not sure how long those stairs down to the docks are gonna last. Looked like two screws into each side of the tread to secure it and that was it.
Ur probably one of the tattle tales
@@margaretgallager3115 Wow, Margaret. Alex makes a legitimate point, a thoughtful point. Accusing without proof, lame.
Taste.
@@margaretgallager3115 never. Not my business to rat people out.
Tim knew wow
the thing with permits usually is, that the towns dont want people to build something that just doesnt look good ith the existing buildings (as to not destroy the look of the town) or that people dont disturbe nature too much, so i do thing that you should get the permission, all the best
@@p0stal1987 yeah, true I thought about that aswell, but they didnt seem to have cut down any trees for it and over time the wood will look more natural in it than the freshly cut wood
I I get permits are a pain, but watch some Mike Holmes shows and see how good intentions make for some bad rookie mistakes that can be dangerous. Looking forward to how this all turns out.
Got to be honest with you...as soon as I saw you start buildings those steps, I thought, how did they get those approved. They don;'t look like they're up to code with the footings and piers. I know it's a pain in the ass, but sometimes permits are a safety thing as much as they are a tax. Good luck and love you guys!
Permits are for safety - lifejackets are for safety - lotsa stuff is for safety....even professionals have to pull permits....
hunh? I thought permits were so obvious, but then again, been in the build field for decades. Sorry guys, live and learn.